Super Sauna was actually okay; their mamasan was the awesome Suzy, previously of Fuji. Best in the business; not young, but very skilled! She stopped seeing clients on orders from the owners, but would always recommend the young new girls to me.
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Super Sauna was actually okay; their mamasan was the awesome Suzy, previously of Fuji. Best in the business; not young, but very skilled! She stopped seeing clients on orders from the owners, but would always recommend the young new girls to me.
[QUOTE=DavidPeter;2772593]I has been visited almost every AMPs in Birmingham, and IMHO the best one is I knead on Valleydale Rd. The girls are very polite with good massage. YMMV once you visit regularly.[/QUOTE]Is better service only for regulars, or is there a secret handshake or something? Went there last week, drew a rather plain girl (couldn't understand her name, maybe Cindy or something? No tease, no hint of extras. Allowed lots of OTC during massage, but wouldn't budge on extras. Massage was so so. House 60 + 5 tip. Is it worth it to repeat?
All of these places especially are hit or miss. Every once in awhile you may get a rogue one that will give you a HJ or let you finger.
Them. It's just something that really happens by accident. Or it did with me. It may be one time a year that you'll get someone like this. If you go to one of these places and get nothing, stop going. You're not going to get anything by going more. The majority of these places over the years are worth a shit at even giving massages. Just like someone giving an extra, it may be once in a blue moon you get a good massage from one of them. Even when I got an extra I always cared more about the massage. I need massages a few times a month and there's nothing worse than going somewhere and getting a half assed massage and then thinking, well maybe she'll make up for it at the end, but you get nothing. Then you're pissed because you just wasted $60 and then you get really pissed when after all that she hints at a fucking tip. If you're wanting advice, I can give you some. Just stay away from them. There more trouble than they're worth.
[QUOTE=Cocknballs;2825691]Is better service only for regulars, or is there a secret handshake or something? Went there last week, drew a rather plain girl (couldn't understand her name, maybe Cindy or something? No tease, no hint of extras. Allowed lots of OTC during massage, but wouldn't budge on extras. Massage was so so. House 60 + 5 tip. Is it worth it to repeat?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlumpBuster17;2825753]All of these places especially are hit or miss. Every once in awhile you may get a rogue one that will give you a HJ or let you finger.
Them. It's just something that really happens by accident. Or it did with me. It may be one time a year that you'll get someone like this. If you go to one of these places and get nothing, stop going. You're not going to get anything by going more. The majority of these places over the years are worth a shit at even giving massages. Just like someone giving an extra, it may be once in a blue moon you get a good massage from one of them. Even when I got an extra I always cared more about the massage. I need massages a few times a month and there's nothing worse than going somewhere and getting a half assed massage and then thinking, well maybe she'll make up for it at the end, but you get nothing. Then you're pissed because you just wasted $60 and then you get really pissed when after all that she hints at a fucking tip. If you're wanting advice, I can give you some. Just stay away from them. There more trouble than they're worth.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. No offense, but if what you're saying is accurate, then your fair city has one fucked up customer base. Shit massages with no extras? Seriously, how does a single one of these places stay open, let alone the number that there are?
Because there's a lot of gullible people. No offense to me. I know a lot are fucked up. Same reason people are paying top dollar for glorified SW's just because they put a little make up on, get in some skimpy and have a phone to take pics. Guys go in these places, get their junk "grazed"(you see that word a lot) and then think something is going to happen. It doesn't, so they think if I get to know her better she'll give in and fuck me right there if I only put in a little time. But that never happens and they just end up jerking their self off. They spend hundreds of dollars to do something they could have done at home. And after this happens, they go and try their luck at another place. Same thing happens. So imagine hundreds of poor bastards doing this each day, week and you see why they stay open.
[QUOTE=Cocknballs;2826118]Thanks for the advice. No offense, but if what you're saying is accurate, then your fair city has one fucked up customer base. Shit massages with no extras? Seriously, how does a single one of these places stay open, let alone the number that there are?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlumpBuster17;2826298]Because there's a lot of gullible people. No offense to me. I know a lot are fucked up. Same reason people are paying top dollar for glorified SW's just because they put a little make up on, get in some skimpy and have a phone to take pics. Guys go in these places, get their junk "grazed"(you see that word a lot) and then think something is going to happen. It doesn't, so they think if I get to know her better she'll give in and fuck me right there if I only put in a little time. But that never happens and they just end up jerking their self off. They spend hundreds of dollars to do something they could have done at home. And after this happens, they go and try their luck at another place. Same thing happens. So imagine hundreds of poor bastards doing this each day, week and you see why they stay open.[/QUOTE]Well, that pretty well sucks. Of course, the only people who can change that are us customers. AMPs aren't any different from any other business. As long as people overpay for crap service, that's exactly what we'll continue to get. These girls know exactly what they are doing, too. Every time one of us guys leave a tip for crap service, they talk with their friends about us and laugh at us behind our backs. Think about that the next time you're considering how much to tip.
Let's all do ourselves. And each other. A favor. Never, ever consider DIY as an extra, and always make it plain that teasing without delivering extras ALWAYS lowers the tip. I have no problem tipping for a good therapeutic massage with no extras, so long as she doesn't hint at extras.
Come on guys, nut it up and stop tipping for crap service! I'm not trying to be a smartass, it's just the ONLY way to improve service.
[QUOTE=Cocknballs;2828396]Well, that pretty well sucks. Of course, the only people who can change that are us customers. AMPs aren't any different from any other business. As long as people overpay for crap service, that's exactly what we'll continue to get. These girls know exactly what they are doing, too. Every time one of us guys leave a tip for crap service, they talk with their friends about us and laugh at us behind our backs. Think about that the next time you're considering how much to tip.
Let's all do ourselves. And each other. A favor. Never, ever consider DIY as an extra, and always make it plain that teasing without delivering extras ALWAYS lowers the tip. I have no problem tipping for a good therapeutic massage with no extras, so long as she doesn't hint at extras.
Come on guys, nut it up and stop tipping for crap service! I'm not trying to be a smartass, it's just the ONLY way to improve service.[/QUOTE]I do agree but us customers won't change a lot as far as extras go. Over the last year, these places have received tons of pressure from LEO and Massage boards. I know for a fact they've been sending under cover people into these places. So is you want more, better go to Atlanta.
[QUOTE=TideLover;2828697]I do agree but us customers won't change a lot as far as extras go. Over the last year, these places have received tons of pressure from LEO and Massage boards. I know for a fact they've been sending under cover people into these places. So is you want more, better go to Atlanta.[/QUOTE]Again no disrespect, but that's not really true. LEO has little to nothing to do with it. These girls know what's up and LEO isn't any more powerful in Birmingham than in Atlanta, New York, Los Angeles or anywhere else (I can assure you they have message boards and undercover units there too). I've been in this hobby a long time, have partaken in big cities and small towns all across the country, and I can say with complete confidence that it's all about what the customer is willing to pay. Period. Just because these girls pretend to not speak English very well doesn't mean they don't know how to play the game. And LEO has nothing in the world to do with some poor sap overtipping for a crap massage and a DIY job. If us guys here are OK with that, then fine. But if we want a better experience like in other cities, we've got to talk with our wallets.
If you're willing to pay for big things, why not just go to an old fashioned AMP? Because these "legit" mp's aren't going to do just anything because you pull your wallet out. You could go in there with $500 and you're coming out with nothing. All you're going to get maybe, is a HJ from the one random one that would do that. And over the years they are few and far between. All but about 2-3 places here have curtains for doors, some don't even have walls that go to the ceiling, so people are just dreaming if something is going to take place. And hell if there was something going on at these places, I for one aren't going to get on here and blab to everyone so some scumbag cop can know, or some asshole mp owner pretending to be one of us.
[QUOTE=Cocknballs;2829807]Again no disrespect, but that's not really true. LEO has little to nothing to do with it. These girls know what's up and LEO isn't any more powerful in Birmingham than in Atlanta, New York, Los Angeles or anywhere else (I can assure you they have message boards and undercover units there too). I've been in this hobby a long time, have partaken in big cities and small towns all across the country, and I can say with complete confidence that it's all about what the customer is willing to pay. Period. Just because these girls pretend to not speak English very well doesn't mean they don't know how to play the game. And LEO has nothing in the world to do with some poor sap overtipping for a crap massage and a DIY job. If us guys here are OK with that, then fine. But if we want a better experience like in other cities, we've got to talk with our wallets.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlumpBuster17;2829948]If you're willing to pay for big things, why not just go to an old fashioned AMP? Because these "legit" mp's aren't going to do just anything because you pull your wallet out. You could go in there with $500 and you're coming out with nothing. All you're going to get maybe, is a HJ from the one random one that would do that. And over the years they are few and far between. All but about 2-3 places here have curtains for doors, some don't even have walls that go to the ceiling, so people are just dreaming if something is going to take place. And hell if there was something going on at these places, I for one aren't going to get on here and blab to everyone so some scumbag cop can know, or some asshole mp owner pretending to be one of us.[/QUOTE]I've been following this board quietly and agree with you. The legit mp's will not bend for a little cash when they have so much to risk. Some actually give a very good massage with a little tease. For many older and married men, that is all they are looking for. Just to be touched by an attractive exotic lady other than their wife or gf.
For the men that "Expect" more, maybe an escort is a better option than trying to coerce someone with money into what you want. Seems like it would be a lot more straight forward and cut the grief when the legit places won't succumb to your demand. Trying to get everyone to not tip for an advertised service seems a bit overboard. Just take the easy route.
[QUOTE=SlumpBuster17;2829948]If you're willing to pay for big things, why not just go to an old fashioned AMP? Because these "legit" mp's aren't going to do just anything because you pull your wallet out. You could go in there with $500 and you're coming out with nothing. All you're going to get maybe, is a HJ from the one random one that would do that. And over the years they are few and far between. All but about 2-3 places here have curtains for doors, some don't even have walls that go to the ceiling, so people are just dreaming if something is going to take place. And hell if there was something going on at these places, I for one aren't going to get on here and blab to everyone so some scumbag cop can know, or some asshole mp owner pretending to be one of us.[/QUOTE]Actually my point is to improve service (either the actual massage or extras, but hopefully both) without paying the big bucks. I'm like you that way in that I actually go for a good massage, but I enjoy a nice finish. Over the years, I've gotten a lot of excellent therapeutic massages at AMPs, even better than at so called professional spas, including the nice finish.
It's really simple. If these girls aren't going to provide extras, don't pretend you will. And oh by the way, give a good massage. That's not anything close to being unreasonable (and like I said, I have no problem tipping for a quality therapeutic massage). Us guys as customers need to refuse to tip for anything less than that. If you do decide to provide extras, then you're entitled to expect bigger tips. It's largely on us, and it will make a difference.
The only time I ever tip is when I've a actually gotten an extra. I'm one that's not going to tip for just doing their job. There's no easy way to tip. If you had a good massage, and you tip $10, that's obviously low and an insult. $20,40, what's an amount? A $40 tip and you're in for a dollar total with a 60 base. That's too fucking much so I just avoid it all together. Plus I don't like the workers assuming that you're going to tip. I've had shitty massages and at the end when I give them their money, the response is always.
"no teep. " Like it was just the most amazing thing ever. And the only reason someone asks for something like that is because some asshole gave her some money for being grazed or to watch him jerk him off. You don't have to tip. Fuck them. Because you don't tip don't change anything if you decide to go back.
[QUOTE=Cocknballs;2831167]Actually my point is to improve service (either the actual massage or extras, but hopefully both) without paying the big bucks. I'm like you that way in that I actually go for a good massage, but I enjoy a nice finish. Over the years, I've gotten a lot of excellent therapeutic massages at AMPs, even better than at so called professional spas, including the nice finish.
It's really simple. If these girls aren't going to provide extras, don't pretend you will. And oh by the way, give a good massage. That's not anything close to being unreasonable (and like I said, I have no problem tipping for a quality therapeutic massage). Us guys as customers need to refuse to tip for anything less than that. If you do decide to provide extras, then you're entitled to expect bigger tips. It's largely on us, and it will make a difference.[/QUOTE]
I usually tip 15 if the lady gives a good massage depending on my mood. After all, it is a massage place and that is why I am there. The teasing is a bonus over a traditional massage that I'm not going to complain about.
I do agree that a bad massage deserves no tip. I recently had a crappy massage by the car dealership. I was pissed at myself afterwards for giving her a tip. The other place I go gives a really great massage so I will tip the ladies for their efforts.
JMHO.
[QUOTE=SlumpBuster17;2831434]The only time I ever tip is when I've a actually gotten an extra. I'm one that's not going to tip for just doing their job. There's no easy way to tip. If you had a good massage, and you tip $10, that's obviously low and an insult. $20,40, what's an amount? A $40 tip and you're in for a dollar total with a 60 base. That's too fucking much so I just avoid it all together. Plus I don't like the workers assuming that you're going to tip. I've had shitty massages and at the end when I give them their money, the response is always.
"no teep. " Like it was just the most amazing thing ever. And the only reason someone asks for something like that is because some asshole gave her some money for being grazed or to watch him jerk him off. You don't have to tip. Fuck them. Because you don't tip don't change anything if you decide to go back.[/QUOTE]
I am certain this girl has been around a while but I can not seem to find her reviews.
[URL]http://birmingham.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-and-sweet-petite-23yo-white-girl-the-best-massage-youll-ever-have/14003011[/URL]
[QUOTE=CrazyTown;2832615]I am certain this girl has been around a while but I can not seem to find her reviews.
[URL]http://birmingham.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sexy-and-sweet-petite-23yo-white-girl-the-best-massage-youll-ever-have/14003011[/URL][/QUOTE]At $200 an hr, I sure hope she gives more than just a rub.