Not far from the truth but
[QUOTE=FourNick8;6193205]Time to clear up this disinformation BS.
Anyone who has followed this board for over 5 years knows that NOVA stands for "standard Northern Virginia finish" which means services were restricted to only a HJ.
Four years ago a provider HJ in Virginia was completely legal until the democratic controlled state legislature and Gov passed legislation that made any sexual area touching where money was exchanged a felony. Most AMP's (especially KAMPS) had followed the HJ only policy to stay above the law. If more was expected then most mongers went to Maryland where BJ and FS were common.
The economic affects of COVID have opened up move Virginia providers to BJ and FS but if you read back in the Thread 5 of 10 years ago most services provided with "standard NOVA."[/QUOTE]NOVA means "No Oral or Vaginal or Anal play" so Silk34s definition is quite accurate. The reason it isnt popular among other boards is of course open to debate but I still think VA AMP scene is among the weakest in the country. Its gotten better since COVID but it used to be rather tame. We had quantity but not quality. HJ was pretty much the norm and anything extra was rare or YMMV. But when I was a newbie I also fell into the misconception that NoVA was always just North Va and that standard NoVa meant just a HJ which again is synonymous with the truth. Many mongers used the term because here in NOVA before the pandemic it was usually just a HJ and not much more. That was the inside joke, NOVA was no oral or vaginal but also the abbreviation for north VA and it was almost too fitting a coincidence. Occasionally the provider would take off their top and let you nurse or (again, pre pandemic) you could do some light kissing or DFK (deep French kissing) which many mongers would abbreviate as a NOVA+ (Myself included). Providers in VA would rarely let you do more ie BJ / FS you would never get their pants off or get oral except maybe some light kisses on the tip or maybe a simulated BJ which again puts you in the NOVA+ Territory. If you ever wanted more services ie FS then you would have to cross the River into Maryland, PG county area AMPs for those services rendered.
Virginia providing more than a HJ was rare and reserved. So that's the origin of the term.
Then the pandemic happened and providers were hit hard and in an effort to recoup the menu seemed to open up here. So nowadays more can be found than just the standard.
But standard NOVA is more or less a happy ending with some OTC roaming.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
Pine Tree not for the Win IMHO
[QUOTE=Bnxtc;6193505]I realize that in the Mongering world you have to find balance. Today I had a semi winner. I popped by Pinetree in Fairfax since I haven't read anything from there in a while. Called ahead to get an hour. This is important to note. Massage parlors notoriously change management (weekly based on the ads). When I arrived I was greeted by a beautiful, tall Korean woman named Kim. Clich I know but roll with it. Got the customary "how long do you want" and "have you been here before. " IF you state you haven't been there in more than two months you will only get half hour regardless of if you called for an hour. I suggest checking RM for a recent provider and use that name if you want an hour.
OK back to Kim. This is a true stunner. She's 27 Korean from San Fran that speaks perfect English. Tall, standing about 5'7" with I nice set of Marilyn Monroe's, and no extra fat. She is Athletically lean. Nice tan, soft lightly sun kissed skin. Paid the half hour hf of. 6 and got on the table. Too good to be true. I love a Good massage, and this was definitely far from it, and while she teased a bit it wasn't nearly enough to get the juices flowing.
Flip comes and negotiations start. For reference, I dropped $. 4 plus. 6. She stated that's low by new management standards. The hr is. 8 which includes the ts and then $. 6 for FS. Anywho, CBJ was OK enough. Cfs in cg, k9, standing mish. Shapely is an oversimplification for this one. She had soft skin and a coke bottle shape without the Tiny flat Asian booty. It was nice and workable. Tight meow meow with the landing strip. Definitely moist and not a cram the lube and go. Finished in the bag, hot towel clean up and left. Decent hh with cfs and amazing conversation with a young, yes young, vibrant, pleasant young woman. She mentioned PT will start rotating in sub 30's monthly from other states. Just as a heads up. She is off tomorrow, but will be here for a month.[/QUOTE]1. 6 for CFS is high, unless you're paying for the company of a younger more attractive MT. Standard for BBBJ and BBFS in No. Va. With an attractive MT in her 40 ties is less. For what it's worth, I found Pine Tree in Fairfax to be pushy and more pricey before the recent change in ownership.
Rhino.
You're right, I misread 3 d paragraph
[QUOTE=Bnxtc;6194145]I didn't say I paid $. 6. Third paragraph I paid $. 4. I honestly prefer an older provider as I'm no spring chicken however, as I ready so many are looking for an aattajw young and pretty provider, and honestly can't find the sub 30 with a nice body and decent face. For me, attitude goes a long way for a provider. The Kim's, June's, Tara's. The great attitude mixed with an amazing massage. Maybe my review wasn't for you, much like BBFS isn't for me. Different strokes buddy. I don't knock anyone's objectivity.[/QUOTE]As you correctly pointed out, I misread the 3 d paragraph about your visit to Pinetree in Fairfax. But you mentioned that the damage for CFS if you'd done the hour would've been. 8 + 1. 6. On a different point, the intent of my post was not to be critical of you or any other guy. To be fair, sometimes it makes sense to add an extra. 2 to the tip depending on circumstances. My main point was that in my experience Pinetree has had MTs who asked for more than ladies at other AMPs.
Rhino.
