Serious some of you need to be rated one of you especially has been nothing but a totally dick calling me non stop and you have been asked not to call after 8pm and you do it anyway.
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Serious some of you need to be rated one of you especially has been nothing but a totally dick calling me non stop and you have been asked not to call after 8pm and you do it anyway.
[QUOTE=NikkiFromCincy;1743310]Serious some of you need to be rated one of you especially has been nothing but a totally dick calling me non stop and you have been asked not to call after 8pm and you do it anyway.[/QUOTE]Google voice works as well for providers as it does for us mongers. Just sayin'. (:
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Its not even the SW thats become a problem its these pushy over rated and overhyped provider that thinks everyone actually cares where when and what they are doing at all time of the day. If a hobbyist really wants to see you then they will take the time and effort to make contact not the other way around also if they werent charging an arm leg and organ people would make the effort thats just my opinion though its a buyers market and people arent going to pay for great quality at big city prices when they can save in the big city and have their world rockedi won't apologize for offending anyone because their will always be someone unhappy just my two cents
[QUOTE=RedBred;1738049]I saw a review by someone with only five posts. It was two lines and basically said so-and-so is legit and really great. I did a google search on the image in the linked ad and came up with a TON of duplicate ads with different phone numbers and different names in different places. Should I just let that go or share the info? If I share the info, how much detail is appropriate?[/QUOTE]If we're just talking about you finding a bogus picture, I would submit that all the details are appropriate. The main thing would be not to phrase it like you're trolling the original review. I would just quote it and say something like "well, there's an issue with the picture in that ad." etc etc. Don't call him out, don't accuse him of being a liar, don't be dramatic. Just quote the review, link to the ad, insert your research, and upload. That way, we all know that (A) that ad should be approached with extreme caution despite a positive review, and (B) be very wary of anything else posted by that handle. At least, that's how I would handle it.
To me, that's not reviewing a review so much as adding hard physical evidence that the review might be questionable, and as such is not only fair game, but [B]should[/B] Be posted.
You're correct, the section is only intended for reviews, but I was just commenting on what was already posted. I don't think that I said anything offensive about you in the post. My issue is that these guys jumped in to defend you, while questioning whether or not the guy saw you. Just because his experience was different than their own. Your reviews speak for themselves. They have all been positive.
If he saw you or not is between the two of you. I don't know what his motivation would be to slander you or what can be gained by doing so, but if it isn't true it shouldn't be an issue. Again, your positive reviews speak for themselves.
[QUOTE=Sinful Dreams;1743841]It would be all well good IF he had seen me, but he hasn't. And I thought this section was for "reviews".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Willow1535;1744122]If he saw you or not is between the two of you.[/QUOTE]I wasn't going to wade into the one but WTF.
Will. Everything you said about letting positive reviews speak for themselves is right on target. Where I disagree with you is this "if he saw you or not" comment. I think that's at the heart of virtually everything we share so when a new poster shows up with a "review" of someone he didn't see. It makes me wonder about that poster. If we, as a group, aren't going to hold each other accountable for actually seeing the provider partners that we're reviewing, the whole thing falls apart. So for me, the fact that he posted a review and didn't see her is not between the two of them.
I got no issue with two members having wildly different opinions about the same provider. I got no issue with both of them forcefully making their arguments. BFD. In the end, that's why it's called taste. If you like spinners and I like curvy girls. What's it hurt. If you like curvy girls and I like spinners. So what. Vote with your $$$.
But, and here's where I have an issue, if you post a review about a provider and you didn't ever see her? Com'on, that's not an issue of liking chocolate versus vanilla, that's lying to the board. Calling it out doesn't have f*'all to do with the specific provider and it has nothing to do with white-knighting any particular provider. If we're ok with members posting reviews (good or bad) about providers they haven't even seen, we should turn in our passwords and call it a day because we're not sharing information here anymore, we're just sharing bullsh*t.
And while I'm on a roll. WTF with the comment on some new provider poster that she's got bad teeth because of a drug issue. Seems like the poster's rebuttal got deleted (probably should have been posted in here). I have to ask. Are you a f*ing dentist. And we wonder why we're not seeing a lot of new top quality provider partners rushing to advertise around here.
[QUOTE=Dweezil; 1744163]I wasn't going to wade into the one but WTF.[/quote]Will. Everything you said about letting positive reviews speak for themselves is right on target. Where I disagree with you is this "if he saw you or not" comment.
Not trying to speak for Willow, but I kind of took the comment not as its ok to post a review without seeing a provider so much as a he said he saw you, you say he didn't, I'm not going to get into the middle of or address that he said / she said argument. And I am not wading into that either, before either party accuses me of calling them a liar, etc.
[QUOTE=NikkiFromCincy;1743310]Serious some of you need to be rated one of you especially has been nothing but a totally dick calling me non stop and you have been asked not to call after 8pm and you do it anyway.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't that be a hoot! It seems as though there are some very thin-skinned individuals in our community. Could cause a full-blown riot.
I try diligently to respect the wishes of a provider, and apply proper phone etiquette. (Although I am prob guilty of the occasional over-texting prior to a first meeting; I'm a little skeptical by nature.)
On a similar note, a Dayton provider recently told me about a BP Blacklist site where providers can report on poor behaviors of clients. (Have not checked it out though)
Who knows, maybe Admin2 wants to open a secondary octagon for mongering reviews only.
[QUOTE=Bocintibean; 1743432]I am not sure about everybody else out here But, I am getting real tired of The BS on this site. We have providers bad mouthing providers and now we a have regular members doing it. If you had a bad visit with a provider say that in your review. On the other hand if your visit with the provider was good say that to But why are we talking about other providers in your review of what was supposed to be a review of the young lady you seen. Don, t they have a place for that here. I think they do But keep it out of the reviews I do not want to read all the BS. I know a couple of good providers that have all ready stopped posting on this site because of it.
Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with what you had to say. I have heard so much of providers talking about other ones. Another provider can not ruin another providers sessions or money. What ruins it is the attitudes and drama providers give off to clients. A persons demeanor can say a lot on a person. I've had people contact me wanting me involved on Ally and quite frankly IMHO Ally has never been out the way to me or rude I have no involvement to bash her. Even if a provider was bash me just means I'm doing something right for them to be on hating games. I agree though the bs drama should post in the rants and raves. I wish all providers and clients well in the hobby and to each their own.
[QUOTE=Willow1535;1744122]If he saw you or not is between the two of you. I don't know what his motivation would be to slander you or what can be gained by doing so, but if it isn't true it shouldn't be an issue. Again, your positive reviews speak for themselves.[/QUOTE]I would respectfully disagree with that as well. I don't know if its fair to expect a provider to stand idly by when a fake review is posted. Now, obviously no one wants a ten-post back and forth debating the truth of the statement, but I think its fair for a provider to say "hey, this is simply not true".
Also, I can think of several different motivations for posting a fake review, and I think we all could if we were pressed on the issue LOL. Again, obviously I can't verify the post in question, just speaking in general terms.
[QUOTE=Sinful Dreams; 1743841]It would be all well good IF he had seen me, but he hasn't. And I thought this section was for "reviews".
[blue]I moved the post here, it was in a review thread. [/blue][/QUOTE]Ms. Ally, We certainly did meet. It was at the SpringHill Suites. You wore blue jeans and a Hustler top. As I walked into the room you warned me you had a small clit and would not be getting off. You said you had only got off once or twice. You offered me the hot tub and then we had a conversation of which you said several negative things about other providers. You offered me your PSE blowjob at the corner of the bed. Call it what you want but you didn't have your A game. There was no chemistry and I will not return. I don't understand why you're claiming to having not met me. It is what it is.
It is definitely not okay to post a review of a provider without seeing them. He made the comment indicating that he did see her. She says otherwise. I will leave that up to them to figure out. My point was simple. All he did was share his opinion. He is entitled to that and should not be "attacked" or questioned if his opinion differs from someone else. You know what they say about opinions.
[QUOTE=Cintixtreme; 1744231]Will. Everything you said about letting positive reviews speak for themselves is right on target. Where I disagree with you is this "if he saw you or not" comment.
Not trying to speak for Willow, but I kind of took the comment not as its ok to post a review without seeing a provider so much as a he said he saw you, you say he didn't, I'm not going to get into the middle of or address that he said / she said argument. And I am not wading into that either, before either party accuses me of calling them a liar, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vilnius;1744460]but I think its fair for a provider to say "hey, this is simply not true".[/QUOTE]Any review model has to allow for false negative reviews. In a crowd sourcing situation, such as this forum, most members are very good at separating the wheat from the chaff. It's all about the average and our melons keep track of that pretty good.
If a provider is really knocking the sox off of her clients then the VAST majority of her reviews are going to be positive, there will be the occasional "warm" not "hot" one to cover her off days. When a provider such as this gets a really bad review, I tend to think it's because the guy has an agenda. Maybe he showed up and the funk was bad and took issue with being asked to take a shower, or maybe he wanted something the provider doesn't offer, who knows but when there is a rouge review there is usually a reason.
If the provider responds, it actually lends weight to the rogue review. She is expected to not be objective so our minds automatically discount what she says and give that imbalance to her detractor. It's not something we think about it's something we do. If on the other hand her customers speak up, they get double weight. We all know that people don't get off the couch and do shit without motivation. If somebody is willing to take the time and effort to speak up on behalf of a service provider, well then that means something.
At the end of the day neither the forum nor the providers win by responding. They almost always come off as kind of naggy and who wants to hear that from a chick you're thinking about seeing, and the simple act of quoting and responding EXTENDS the argument, they are literally reprinting the negative review for anybody who missed it the first time. For the forum, as you can see below, every review thread would be full of he said, she said every time there was a negative review. As you can see below it wouldn't even stop at he said, she said, it goes on and on and on.
Then my inbox fills up with her saying he slandered her, then him saying she is threatening him, then demands for posts to be taking down or they are going to sue us. (Side note, good like finding a lawyer versed in Bangladeshi AND Argentine law)
So no, it's never a good idea to defend yourself. It won't do any good and I'm just going to throw the "Completely Pointless Drama" flag because as we all know.
[quote]The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.[/quote]For MEN to talk about WOMEN. We have never hid this, it's always been our policy. For men, to talk about women.
As men hanging out in a bar talking about women, when one talks smack about a girl they all know and another guy defends her. I take it with a grain of salt thinking "yeah, but she's probably blowing him".
As men hang out here, when one talks smack about a girl they all know and another guy defends her. I don't know what to think other than "yeah, I KNOW she's blowing him".
Seems to me that almost all the usual rules of life change when there's a good BBBJ involved so it doesn't surprise me that rules of crowd sourcing are also a little different. I forget if it was Frued or Darwin who said "Man is at his dumbest when trying to make decisions while thinking about his dick in a woman's mouth". (I think that was their direct quote). It's this fundamental law of human nature that must make moderating this forum a crazy-maker. It's got to be different than moderating a forum about kitchen appliances or lawn services, eh?
I asked Sumon Fernandez, my Bangledeshi-Argintinian lawyer, if he thought we had found the outer edges of The Octogon with this topic. His advice, which I thought was worth passing along was "Who the f*ck cares, get your sorry ass back to finding a woman's mouth for your dick". I thought "hmmmm. Good point. Besides A2 used black type so we're not officially in trouble (yet)."
Have a great day.
Dz.
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1745015]Then my inbox fills up with her saying he slandered her, then him saying she is threatening him, then demands for posts to be taking down or they are going to sue us. (Side note, good like finding a lawyer versed in Bangladeshi AND Argentine law)
So no, it's never a good idea to defend yourself. It won't do any good and I'm just going to throw the "Completely Pointless Drama" flag because as we all know.
For MEN to talk about WOMEN. We have never hid this, it's always been our policy. For men, to talk about women.[/QUOTE]
Yep, what Silk said.
It makes one come across as pathetic and needy. Lower your rate if you aren't getting business, don't be pathetic and harass guys with all of the unwanted pms, texts, etc telling them that you are available and where you are. It is NOT a practice a provider should be doing. DISCRETION is upmost important to some of these men. By sending the pathetic texts and pms telling a guy where you are and to come see you, is not being discrete.
Guys need to quit being scared and post the name of such providers who do this. I bet that would put a stop to that stuff real quick! LOL.
Of course, the white knights would jump on board and call the men liars.
I have about had it with this site due to this issue. Some aren't being honest about what is going on simply because they are too scared of the provider black listing them and making up lies. And then you have to throw in the provider's white knights who butt in when they have no business doing so.
I make note of those guys and I do not schedule with them should they contact me.
Calling a man who is being honest a liar, just because the provider tells you something, is not cool.
For instance: I know for a fact that pittstop1 is not a liar and did in fact see SD. He told me about their appointment, only because she decided to talk smack about me, Eating crayons, Sasha and Jasmine (but what's new?). Why she is saying that he did not see her is beyond me. From what I heard, he could have posted a longer review stating exactly what happened, what was said, etc during their appointment. He was mild compared to how the review could have been.
Ally needs to explain why she feels the need to call him a liar and why she is denying meeting with him.
But.
I've come to realize that some people just aren't wired right.
All the best,
Dawn.
[QUOTE=SilkyWet;1743766]Its not even the SW thats become a problem its these pushy over rated and overhyped provider that thinks everyone actually cares where when and what they are doing at all time of the day. If a hobbyist really wants to see you then they will take the time and effort to make contact not the other way around also if they werent charging an arm leg and organ people would make the effort thats just my opinion though its a buyers market and people arent going to pay for great quality at big city prices when they can save in the big city and have their world rockedi won't apologize for offending anyone because their will always be someone unhappy just my two cents[/QUOTE]
[quote=dweezil;1745044]besides a2 used black type so we're not officially in trouble (yet)."[/quote][blue]just as in the other octagon there are some rules but less than the other threads. no talking about **** stuff, no direct threats, no exposing personally identifying information, no racial stuff, all those kinds of rules still apply. what i have relaxed here are the argumentative rules, as far as i'm concerned you guys can argue to death in here. personally (maybe i need a light blue ink for semi official posts) i would enjoy reading elevated reasoned arguments but if "you're a fucking asshole" is all you got, go for it.
flame on,
a2[/blue]
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1745015]Any review model has to allow for false negative reviews. In a crowd sourcing situation, such as this forum, most members are very good at separating the wheat from the chaff. It's all about the average and our melons keep track of that pretty good.
If a provider is really knocking the sox off of her clients then the VAST majority of her reviews are going to be positive, there will be the occasional "warm" not "hot" one to cover her off days. When a provider such as this gets a really bad review, I tend to think it's because the guy has an agenda. Maybe he showed up and the funk was bad and took issue with being asked to take a shower, or maybe he wanted something the provider doesn't offer, who knows but when there is a rouge review there is usually a reason.
If the provider responds, it actually lends weight to the rogue review. She is expected to not be objective so our minds automatically discount what she says and give that imbalance to her detractor. It's not something we think about it's something we do. If on the other hand her customers speak up, they get double weight. We all know that people don't get off the couch and do shit without motivation. If somebody is willing to take the time and effort to speak up on behalf of a service provider, well then that means something.
At the end of the day neither the forum nor the providers win by responding. They almost always come off as kind of naggy and who wants to hear that from a chick you're thinking about seeing, and the simple act of quoting and responding EXTENDS the argument, they are literally reprinting the negative review for anybody who missed it the first time. For the forum, as you can see below, every review thread would be full of he said, she said every time there was a negative review. As you can see below it wouldn't even stop at he said, she said, it goes on and on and on.
Then my inbox fills up with her saying he slandered her, then him saying she is threatening him, then demands for posts to be taking down or they are going to sue us. (Side note, good like finding a lawyer versed in Bangladeshi AND Argentine law)
So no, it's never a good idea to defend yourself. It won't do any good and I'm just going to throw the "Completely Pointless Drama" flag because as we all know.
For MEN to talk about WOMEN. We have never hid this, it's always been our policy. For men, to talk about women.[/QUOTE]Point well taken given what has transpired below.
[QUOTE=Dweezil;1745044]As men hanging out in a bar talking about women, when one talks smack about a girl they all know and another guy defends her. I take it with a grain of salt thinking "yeah, but she's probably blowing him".[/QUOTE]DZ, if I'm going to go to the trouble and suffer the inevitable blowing up of my inbox for defending a chick that I think got an unjustified bad report you can damn sure count on two things. 1. Yes she's blowing me, and 2. She's doing it really, really, really fucking well. I'm a lucky man and live in a town where there are literally more class A providers than a man could do in a lifetime and we have the same issue on our board. I am at times moved to defend, but only for women like the character "Sunshine" in the movie "Harlem Nights."
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqG75UhN6yo[/url] (If the link doesn't work, google "sunshine harlem nights")
And I will never, EVER do it because the lady in question tells me to. I'm always nice to great providers, but my johnson is never a handle I'm lead around with. The ENTIRE idea of this hobby is drama free sex and I refuse to turn it into work. Well except for the work I do here.
Just mis dos centavos.
The official 'ring girl' of the octagon?
You know, the hot little' big tittie sexy thang that struts around with the card above her head between rounds?
Big tittes HAHA. We can all dream, can't we?
Kisses,
Molly
Twice this week have had appointments canceled by a well known and highly thought of massage provider. First time was 45 min before the appointment and fortunately I hadn't left work yet. Second time was after driving 30 minutes to get there, I received a text just as I turned onto her street "we got to reschedule babe I'm very sorry".
I know shit happens but it is disappointing and frustrating on several levels.
[QUOTE=PittstoP1;1744484]Ms. Ally, We certainly did meet. It was at the SpringHill Suites. You wore blue jeans and a Hustler top. As I walked into the room you warned me you had a small clit and would not be getting off. You said you had only got off once or twice. You offered me the hot tub and then we had a conversation of which you said several negative things about other providers. You offered me your PSE blowjob at the corner of the bed. Call it what you want but you didn't have your A game. There was no chemistry and I will not return. I don't understand why you're claiming to having not met me. It is what it is.[/QUOTE]I was going to sit back and just watch this Monty Python joust go on, but this shit simply must end. It is time to take the gloves off.
PittsoP1 is not lying.
That post is dead on and is very conclusive and only a person that has seen her BCD, and being honest with themselves, would know these details, and having been one of the only two or three people to have gotten her off (not the fake porn star moaning she often engages in, but an actual shuddering, squirting orgasm that is hard to fake) I will vouch for that detail as well.
It is isn't so much that her clit is small, it is just covered with a whole bunch of flesh, so you sorta got to shove the flaps out of the way to get to the magic bud, or suck really hard to get it to isolated from her thick labia during DATY.
Ally is fun to fuck, but has priced herself out of the market. That is her prerogative.
Even if she chose to adjust her business model to the fair market price in our region, I still would not see her for these reasons:
1) She regularly calls or texts beyond a session with unsolicited contact.
2) She is pathologically possessive. Most of us here pay for sex because we can't possibly bed such hot women as civilians, but there are others of us that pay for sex with these women to AVOID FUCKING DRAMA. Ally acts like she has some type of relationship that requires we explain ourselves, as if we are committing infidelity when we see and review other ladies. Frankly I got tired of her acting like a jealous girlfriend every time I fucked somebody else on this board.
3) She is a very mean-spirited shrew, and regularly insults the other providers in our community. What is even more infuriating, is that she does this during a client's paid time. I have been in a session with her and she has derided: Molly Daniels, SilkyWet, Delicious Dawn, Sasha Black, and other ladies. These ladies are some of the most reliable and sane providers in our region. I am not psychiatrist, but I would hazard a guess that the prognosis would be classic compensation for low self-esteem. She is jealous of these women, is filled with self-loathng, and lashes out at these other ladies so she can fell better about herself.
4) She is a spoiled child that is not happy unless she is swirling some form of disruptive drama, with her at the vortex.
Now, yes, I said some very blunt things in this post, but it is overdue. Some of you guys attacked PittsoP1, probably at the behest of Ally. I am glad he stood his ground. I don't know him, but I have his back on this, because it is long overdue that somebody has the gonads to call Ally and her white knights on this bullshit.
Hear me very clearly, white knights. I will not fuck around with you on this. If you want to attack my post, you better bring your A game, because I will obliterate you without mercy and it will get bloody in the octagon. I have no tolerance for pussy drunk sycophants.
Stop sticking up for this silly shrew and let her slink away and open up shop in another city. You dumbasses that want to continue licking her boots can drive to Dayton or wherever else she moves to, but the cat is out of the bag.
[QUOTE=EnvyMe;1744352]I've had people contact me wanting me involved on Ally[/QUOTE]Hmm. Well I'm just going to leave this here.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1745275]The official 'ring girl' of the octagon?
You know, the hot little' big tittie sexy thang that struts around with the card above her head between rounds?
Big tittes HAHA. We can all dream, can't we?
Kisses,
Molly[/QUOTE]You think anyone would be looking up at what's written on the card. That's the laugh. What's that phrase I hear so much from women in the real world " hey, fella. My eyes are up here". LOL. Looking at the card. Sheesh.
[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1745275]The official 'ring girl' of the octagon?
You know, the hot little' big tittie sexy thang that struts around with the card above her head between rounds?
Big tittes HAHA. We can all dream, can't we?
Kisses,
Molly[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Dweezil;1745383]You think anyone would be looking up at what's written on the card. That's the laugh. What's that phrase I hear so much from women in the real world " hey, fella. My eyes are up here". LOL. Looking at the card. Sheesh.[/QUOTE]No one has ever read a ring card. Ever. This would be no different LOL
[quote=admin2; 1745234][blue]just as in the other octagon there are some rules but less than the other threads. no talking about **** stuff, no direct threats, no exposing personally identifying information, no racial stuff, all those kinds of rules still apply. what i have relaxed here are the argumentative rules, as far as i'm concerned you guys can argue to death in here. personally (maybe i need a light blue ink for semi official posts) i would enjoy reading elevated reasoned arguments but if "you're a fucking asshole" is all you got, go for it.
flame on,
a2[/blue][/quote]oh shit. you go to a light blue too and i'm totally fucked. at my age the difference between official blue and monger black is hard enough. light blue will be insane.
and i'll warn you now, you add light blue and you know someone's going to ask "do you have that in a mauve or teal?"
[QUOTE=Vilnius;1745386]No one has ever read a ring card. Ever. This would be no different LOL[/QUOTE]There's writing on those things? Ya don't say. LOL
[QUOTE=Vilnius;1745316]Hmm. Well I'm just going to leave this here.[/QUOTE]I have no clue why you titled your post back well thats curious. What is? The fact that I wrote how providers want to call me asking me to get involved with them on bashing someone who has done nothing to me? I do not get on this site to be in drama or bull crap. I have a life to lead and things to take care of in my life. It is a waste for anyone ask me put someone down or join some petition ordeals. I am not the female thats going to get involved in it. As I said Ally has never been rude to me and if I was ask her for reference before she did give. Others have caught attitude and others have got mad at clients for going to see me. Since people are calling Ally out why are they not? I mean I can state in fact I had a client want to meet me who I had verify through Summer. She did in fact vouch him however then he texts me back he can not eet for Summer was texting him mad. Grow up people, no one wants the same old things always on life. To have fun and the time of your life which is what this site should be about then it will require experimenting and trying new varities. I have had Sylvie get mad over my voicemail before because a client used her as a reference. Now yes if going to use a provider then make sure have their permission thats just appropriate and respectful. Once you give permission as a provider to be used as a reference have the respect for the client when he chooses to see another. Now enough said.
That asked envy me if she had problems with that person, because I had heard it was a possibility. When envy me said no, I left it at that. I certainly did not want to create more problems than there already were. And then we had our provider picnic, in which we realized all that phat just posted was true, and that most people want to avoid the drama associated with the truth and choose not to post about it.
Anyway, this is old news anyway to most people. Just felt I needed to clarify my position in this train wreck.
Kisses,
Molly
I liked the part where Molly, Dawn, and Silk were talking about swimming lessons. Just goes to show that controversy sells better I guess.
[QUOTE=Admin2;1745643]I liked the part where Molly, Dawn, and Silk were talking about swimming lessons. Just goes to show that controversy sells better I guess.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I'd say that it sells better? Swimming lessons are a fantastic visual, but even that usually can't overcome the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. Ah well.
[QUOTE=Admin2;1745643]I liked the part where Molly, Dawn, and Silk were talking about swimming lessons. Just goes to show that controversy sells better I guess.[/QUOTE]Good old days? That was just last f'ing Saturday. I have food in my fridge older than that.
And I'm sure we'll get back to swimming and wet t-shirts in a bit. As soon as I can stop day dreaming about our newest "ring girl". LOL
Hey admin2 do you have that in teal?
[COLOR="LightSeaGreen"]How about this, it's the closest I have.[/COLOR]
[blue]A2[/blue]