Stopped in saw some regs tried to get a dance from Reina or Rayna anybody got any info on her she was cute if so please pm. Thanks team
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Stopped in saw some regs tried to get a dance from Reina or Rayna anybody got any info on her she was cute if so please pm. Thanks team
[QUOTE=Member #3235]Stopped in saw some regs tried to get a dance from Reina or Rayna anybody got any info on her she was cute if so please pm. Thanks team[/QUOTE]
Sexhobbyist can recommend Rayna (and has done so in the past). Enough said.
Thank you sir you are a true gentleman!
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Sexhobbyist can recommend Rayna (and has done so in the past). Enough said.[/QUOTE]
Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs, part 4: the reference
Mongers ought to know to use all the legitimate tools at their disposal to advance their agenda with a dancer. One of those tools is the reference, the referral, the name-drop.
I was at a local club today, a Sunday. I don't usually patronize the clubs on Sunday, but I wanted to make some lucky dancer a happy Mother's Day. It wasn't busy. I had my choice of dancers so I took a young Latina up to the VIP. This was the first time I'd been with her. She started kinda weak. Just when I thought it might be a bad choice to waste time with her, she started getting into the mood. She never did anything overt other than position my equipment in such a way that she could grind against it to get her horny. She was beginning to warm up. I could tell because she was moaning softly. She started asking me about what I did for a living. When I hear this, I take it as code for fishing to see if I was LE. I told her that I was a regular customer during the week. I gave her four names of dancers that I usually frequented during the week. Her next words were, " Oh, [dancer x] is a friend of mine. It's been almost two months since I had sex. My boyfriend hasn't touched me and you're making me so horny. I took you for an undercover cop." I assured her that I wasn't. Her disposition changed once my "references" were disclosed. She got into my shorts and pulled me out and began an admirable hj. She climbed on my lap and pulled her fabric to the side and began rubbing her clit with me. She was getting very horny. I pulled out a condom and, in a flash, she grabbed it out of my fingers, tore open the package and slipped it on. The next thing I knew, she had climbed on and was in control as she took charge to get her rocks off. She didn't hesitate a second. It was all about her getting to climax. I was along for the ride and I came at the same time she did.
This is now the eighth time in fifteen years I've had fs from a dancer on the first dance. It also demonstrates the importance of the reference in setting your dancer at ease. Pay attention to the dancers that dance for you. You just might be able to use them in the future to pave your way to the honeypot.
One more thing. If you have the equipment, I've learned to just let the dancer do the prep work. They know what will turn them on and they'll take the opportunity to position you in such a way to get the most out of the dance for them as well as you. It's amazing how much the right stuff can make it easy for you to get what you want; even if it's not the climax you were hoping for, it will still end happily for you. I've found that they are willing to pay a lot more attention to you if you have something they want, other than money. Or, something they enjoy as much as money. It's all about the greenbacks, but enjoying themselves along the way is a job benefit; and, for some, they get more out of their job than most if you just let them take the lead.
Sexhobbyist
Happy Mother's Day to all you hard-working mothers.
I think we should call you sensei or coach or something. I will try that approach next time.
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs, part 4: the reference
Mongers ought to know to use all the legitimate tools at their disposal to advance their agenda with a dancer. One of those tools is the reference, the referral, the name-drop.
I was at a local club today, a Sunday. I don't usually patronize the clubs on Sunday, but I wanted to make some lucky dancer a happy Mother's Day. It wasn't busy. I had my choice of dancers so I took a young Latina up to the VIP. This was the first time I'd been with her. She started kinda weak. Just when I thought it might be a bad choice to waste time with her, she started getting into the mood. She never did anything overt other than position my equipment in such a way that she could grind against it to get her horny. She was beginning to warm up. I could tell because she was moaning softly. She started asking me about what I did for a living. When I hear this, I take it as code for fishing to see if I was LE. I told her that I was a regular customer during the week. I gave her four names of dancers that I usually frequented during the week. Her next words were, " Oh, [dancer x] is a friend of mine. It's been almost two months since I had sex. My boyfriend hasn't touched me and you're making me so horny. I took you for an undercover cop." I assured her that I wasn't. Her disposition changed once my "references" were disclosed. She got into my shorts and pulled me out and began an admirable hj. She climbed on my lap and pulled her fabric to the side and began rubbing her clit with me. She was getting very horny. I pulled out a condom and, in a flash, she grabbed it out of my fingers, tore open the package and slipped it on. The next thing I knew, she had climbed on and was in control as she took charge to get her rocks off. She didn't hesitate a second. It was all about her getting to climax. I was along for the ride and I came at the same time she did.
This is now the eighth time in fifteen years I've had fs from a dancer on the first dance. It also demonstrates the importance of the reference in setting your dancer at ease. Pay attention to the dancers that dance for you. You just might be able to use them in the future to pave your way to the honeypot.
One more thing. If you have the equipment, I've learned to just let the dancer do the prep work. They know what will turn them on and they'll take the opportunity to position you in such a way to get the most out of the dance for them as well as you. It's amazing how much the right stuff can make it easy for you to get what you want; even if it's not the climax you were hoping for, it will still end happily for you. I've found that they are willing to pay a lot more attention to you if you have something they want, other than money. Or, something they enjoy as much as money. It's all about the greenbacks, but enjoying themselves along the way is a job benefit; and, for some, they get more out of their job than most if you just let them take the lead.
Sexhobbyist
Happy Mother's Day to all you hard-working mothers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #3235]I think we should call you sensei or coach or something. I will try that approach next time.[/QUOTE]I love the mind tricks he uses. I am just a padowan learner when it comes to cumming in the VIP room, but those mind tricks he uses really do work. :D
I also notice from the "FS-on-the-first-trip count" that master SH is getting better too. Since the Dark Side works so well, perhaps he should be addressed as [b]Dark Lord SH[/b]?
LoveLOS
I have got to get back to Tucson. My last trip was less than stellar. I went to one club, but did not have time to do much more than tip a few girls on stage before I had to leave. I was also in Tucson about ten years ago, and no luck then either, (although I did have an interesting experience with an escort) and although it was a few years ago, it sounds like SH has been getting lucky in Tucson for a while, I was just at the wrong clubs.
Tucson, I shall return!
Dr. Monger
[QUOTE=Dr.Monger]Tucson, I shall return![/QUOTE]Now that's a quote I live by...
Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.
Next year in Tucson, Dr?
256 days...
LL
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Now that's a quote I live by...
Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.
Next year in Tucson, Dr?
256 days...
LL[/QUOTE]
I'm always happy to host a friend of yours.
BTW, I'll be in your area in August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
Sexhobbyist
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]Now that's a quote I live by...
Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.
Next year in Tucson, Dr?
256 days...
LL[/QUOTE]
PM me the exact dates and I will see what I can do. I never know my schedule more than a month or two in advance. But I would love to go!
Dr. Monger
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]I'm always happy to host a friend of yours.
BTW, I'll be in your area in August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
Prepping the talent? Oh if only there was talent to prep! (At least in Baltimore) Trust me, at the clubs here with good looking women, there are practically no extras at all. I have heard of take out at some of the top end clubs, but the numbers requested are staggering. Conversely, if you like drug addicted skanks, there are plenty available cheap. Actually, there is one stunner who inexplicably does provide extras at one club I know, but its a steep charge, which is why I have not partaken. But then, it may be no more than Tuscon rates for all I know.
Dr. Monger
[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]While the SC action in DC/VA/WV pales in comparison to your domain, I have it on good authority that another friend you may have met previously is prepping some DC (ghetto) clubs for your arrival.
For my humble part, I might have to take you on an adventure to [post=525387]Neverland[/post], or a similar fantasy with an eastern (far eastern to be exact) theme.
Did I PM you asking for your Aug08 dates? I forget.
LL
PS, DrM. In yer box.
[QUOTE=LoveLOS]While the SC action in DC/VA/WV pales in comparison to your domain, I have it on good authority that another friend you may have met previously is prepping some DC (ghetto) clubs for your arrival.[/QUOTE]
Did I just hear the announcement for the next DC RT?
You can't just mention shit like this casually in the fucking Tuscon forum and not give me a call you know... thank god I RTFF.
Bench
TD's West is now $5 a dance (instead of $7). Gee, I wonder why they changed that? I guess they think they will become another CS (wishfull thinking on their part).
[QUOTE=BSR]Did I just hear the announcement for the next DC RT?
You can't just mention shit like this casually in the fucking Tuscon forum and not give me a call you know... thank god I RTFF.
Bench[/QUOTE]Seats Rock,
Dude, Feb 2008 & Aug 2008 will both be RTs for sure (one in AZ, one in DC), but I sure hope it is not the [b]next one[/b]!!! Looks like I am off to Neverland or Wonderland tonight. Call me.
LL
Made a stop at TD's west last week. Place was pretty dead at first, looked like heifers on parade, then the shift must've changed since a couple decent girls came out. Got a bunch of dances from Trish. Nice ass and some great nips on top of a heap of silicon.
Ended up in the VIP, she kept looking out for the boss, wasn't the 'cool one' she normally has. Still put some effort into the happy ending, altho no extras this time.
God girl and a good attitude.
Anybody want to [post=531944]party this coming weekend?[/post]
Ed, lost your digits. Call or PM, por favor.
4 days...
LoveLOS
This forum has quieted down lately and I suspect I know why. As for me, I've spent the last six weeks enjoying the tasty morsels provided by my female pimp. This has allowed me plenty of activity without the hassle of the club scene.
I did, however, venture into a local club yesterday and I found the VIP room to be SRO. While waiting for a seat, I watched the x-rated entertainment with amusement.
Once seated, I proceeded to get it on with a gfe from an ex of mine. There's nothing quite like make-up sex. It seems she got miffed a month or so ago when her and another dancer were tag teaming my shaft in the VIP by taking turns riding it. That, however, isn't what upset her. The fantastic threesome session came to crashing end when the other dancer began DFK me. That was the proverbial straw for my jealous ex. It wasn't the sex which all three of us were enjoying, it was the kissing. Geez. Sometimes I'm not sure how the other sex thinks. But there it is.
Enjoy and play safe.
Sexhobbyist, checking in.
It's Thursday afternoon so I decided to venture out to Raider's Reef first, then Candy Store during prime time afternoon clubbing time.
RR was pathetic. They had six dancers, none of whom would rate above a "5" on Sexhobbyist's scale. It took an hour to get asked for a dance even though it was obvious I was the only one of about 10 customers that had any money. I know this because I was the only one tipping the dancers at the stage. And, still, it took an hour to get a table dance. It's not as if the place was packed with customers and all the dancers were busy. The dancers were all hiding in the dressing room until their turn on stage. Any time a dancer did venture forth to bless us with her presence, she'd walk by with her head down and scurried to her destination without acknowledging any of the customers. I had a worthless table dance from Tyra then left.
Next stop was CS. The place was jumping. Lots of customers and the dancers were everywhere. I was asked for dances by three different dancers before I even got my drink. The dancers were circulating and getting business. Dancers were smiling saying "hi" as they came by. I went to the VIP with three different dancers and had a great time. The VIP was busy. Only one place to sit. Breaking my own commandment, I took one of the YD&FofCBD to the VIP (okay, I was intrigued by a cute one with a nice personality). The action was amazing and included a condom. Another dancer I took to the VIP was nice, but not as aggressive. Her name was Chrissy. I liked her and she gave decent dances, but I'm just too hardcore for her so I didn't try anything since I wasn't invited to. The third dancer I took to the VIP was a regular of mine who knows how to take care of me. In this case, she earned her money since I'd already met with a happy situation earlier.
The contrast between RR and CS was amazing. RR seemed lifeless, drab, hostile. CS was upbeat, lively, and friendly.
When I see clubs like RR, I'm amazed they're still in business.
Sexhobbyist
Heard there was a lot of changes at TD's and I went in this afternoon to see. There is new mgt and the fuggers now wanted a fiver from me to park in the handicapped where I have always parked for free. Fuck their new parking fees.
Same ol chit here. Not many girls on the floor and lots of guys awaiting. Looked like six guys to one girl in the club. Many real heifers. I boogied and didn't even bother to order a drink.
I swooped over to Curves. The girls were circulating to beat hell and I had plenty of offers. I got a few damn good dances from waitstaff, as always. I guess I have yet to ever get a dance from a dancer in Curves or the Reef.
SH,
You're a true inspiration for us mongers. I've only recently started checking out the clubs, and was wondering what advice you had about tipping the ladies after a VIP session.
Is it the dances + the extras, dances + a little more, something else...? I don't want to shortchange them and endanger future visits, but also don't want to ruin things for others out there.
How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist.
[QUOTE=Kamperx]SH,
You're a true inspiration for us mongers. I've only recently started checking out the clubs, and was wondering what advice you had about tipping the ladies after a VIP session.
Is it the dances + the extras, dances + a little more, something else...? I don't want to shortchange them and endanger future visits, but also don't want to ruin things for others out there.
How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist.[/QUOTE]
Kamperx,
I gave extensive information about money, rates, etc. in my January 7, 2007 post, Sexhobbyist's Guide to Strip Clubs, part 3: Advanced subjects.
Check it out.
Sexhobbyist
I would say if you enjoyed the dance or extras whatever the case may be, then tip five to $20. Do read SH guide it will help you a lot.
Hi Kamperx,
Yes, counting dances can be challenging. Especially if you are lost in the moment. YMMV, most of this is common sense and probably known to everyone, but this approach works for me.
IMO it is important to keep track of, or at least have a pretty good estimate of the number of dances. It is not good to go way over the $$$ one is carrying and get surprised. It is bad form to be appearing to short change the dancer, or generating concern by her, or other dancers in the VIP that may see fumbling for money that isn't there, hear statements that one doesn't have enough, etc. And then running over to the ATM hoping it is working. This probably happens to everyone at some point but I try to minimize it. I want to know how much I have before starting with a dancer and not overspend what I have on me. If things are good and I need to go back to the well, I think that is best done between dancers. Also if it is taking you time to get everything together to pay your dancer and she is left waiting it isn't fair for her or good for one's reputation.
While not frequent I have had dancers tell me they did several more dances then they really have. It is good to set expectations after a few dances, "that was 4, right? Ok I'd like a few more. " Counting dances is much easier to do in the main floor for me than it is in the VIP. But with a new dancer I do count or if things heat up still try to maintain my best estimate, saying 1, 2, 3 etc. Mentally as each song starts. If I lose count I give the benefit to the dancer and add a couple more songs to my best guesstimate of the count. Then at the end if we are pretty close to having the same number everything is good, and it shouldn't be a wide variance. If the difference is just a song or two, np, I pay and give her the benefit of my doubt, maybe pay a bit more attention next time. If the difference is several then I politely set the expectation of what I think the number is, and with a good natured inquiry ask her why she thinks her number is more than what I thought. Most dancers are friendly and good natured and will not respond negatively. Another way to check, and if I had a good experience, is to say here is $x for the y number of dances and here is some extra. If there is disagreement you'll know. If she thanks you, then you know you are probably in the ballpark and likely gave her a bit of a tip. And I agree with Amie and others that it is good to tip, not overboard, but a bit more whenever possible. It is all part of the overhead and appreciation for those dancers you like.
My experience is that those dancers that try hard to up-sell the price per dance or purposefully over count the number tend not to last long.
All that I've mentioned is especially important for me with dancers I don't really know. For those dancers with whom I have established a very good relationship.- based on a lot of repeat business, a track record of honesty, no drama, and friendliness.- then I admit I don't even worry about counting. The VIP sessions are a lot better that way. But wait until you have a solid rapport and there is trust both ways. I do this with few dancers. When it comes time to pay I give my estimate based on the time spent. She will let you know if this is a good arrangement. Reassess every few visits to ensure you aren't over paying a lot or under paying. When you have this level of rapport some dancers will like to spend time with you if things are slow or after they've worked hard, made their money and want to relax with someone they like and not worry a lot about the number of songs.
How do you know if there is sufficient trust? One way is when they ask You to hold Their money. LOL. Seriously though, with a couple of dancers I sometimes do hold their money for them if I plan to be there for a while. If I'm done, or want some variety, or am relaxing with a few beers, I don't mind if she wants me to hold her cash especially if they are working the floor a lot and getting good tips on stage. Then they don't have to worry about leaving it behind, getting robbed, running to the locker a lot, etc. Be very careful with this though. You really do need to know them well and have a lot of trust, you would not want to have a problem if she thinks the amount is different. And of course you now have a big responsibility to keep a good watch, keep it separate from your own cash, keep other dancers away from it (especially ones you don't know). In general I don't do this and don't recommend it. And if it is robbed or lost then you've bought it and need to make up the difference. But for the right dancer that you know very well and trust, it isn't a bad thing and may help them relax. Always know how much she has asked you to hold. This was a bit of a digression.- I wonder what Amie's thoughts are on this?
One can also use your watch as a double check. If I assume about 4 mins per song that is 15 per hour. Subtract 2 for when she goes on stage, if there are few girls then this may happen every 20 to 30 mins so about twice per hour and if more then they are usually up in about an hour. If she is coming back to you and waiting for the next to start or taking a quick break backstage subtract 3 for when she goes on stage. Sometimes this helps to get a ballpark on the number of dances on a per hour basis, then multiply by $x for floor dances and $y for VIP. I don't watch the clock and I do like to get lost in the moment. But with just a quick glance to know when I start and some simple math in your head at the end, this is a quick double check for number of dances and total $ to be paid.
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Kamperx]How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist. [/QUOTE]
MyThicBrew,
Thanks for your exhaustive treatise on how to count the number of table dances.
I tend to think that if we are off a dance or two ... what the hey!. We are there drinking and having fun with the dancers and that's what we pay for.
IMHO
DN
I was patronizing a local favorite club and getting table dances from a particularly lively dancer. As regular readers know, I travel commando style. She had slipped her hands into my shorts and was working the equipment with expert dexterity when she worked her finger into my...a-hole...and gave my prostate a massage all the while jacking me with her other hand to an explosive conclusion. Needless to say, my eyes popped out of my head when she made the move. I almost resisted, but decided that, based on her performance thus far, she knew what she was doing. This was a first for me although I understand it is fashionable in Asian massage parlors for this "special" treatment. It's not something that I want to repeat often, but it was a unique experience. Just when I thought I had experienced it all....
Sexhobbyist
I was once told by a customer that when he is getting dances he will take off his shoes (he wore sandels) first one foot and then the other then he would put them back on the same way. Someone else told me that they carry around a matchbook one match for every dance. There are a lot of different tricks to keeping track of your dances.
I was at the CS last night and it was a little slow. Not a lot of dancers, usual I think for the summer Monday evenings.
I got some dances + VIP from a new dancer named Texas. She is new to Tucson and has been in town apparently for a couple of weeks. She is a black dancer with a very nice tight body. While she did initially try to up-sell the cost of the dances (more than once), even asking for payment in advance for a number of dances once I got to the VIP, she remained friendly once I told her I would pay as we go and only determine a tip afterwards. I had a nice time with her overall. I think she was a bit nervous and new. I will probably repeat.
Senior members can PM me for more details.
MythicBrew
First things first. My thanks to Juicy Amie for her time and expertise today. To the newbies, Amie knows what's what and is happy to assist forum members with advice and info. She was a great help to me today. I encourage you to patronize her. She's a sultry, sexy, sweetie.
I had three encounters in the VIP of a popular local club today. I don't like visiting the clubs on Friday because they are all packed with Johnny Paycheck spending his week's allowance, since it's payday. Today I found myself in the neighborhood so I stopped. I'm glad I did.
First encounter in the VIP was with Alicia who has been discussed before on this board and in PMs. This was my first trip to the VIP with her. Her reputation was known and I'd seen her in action before. She picked me, I didn't seek her; but I decided to go to the VIP anyway. (Okay, I wasn't all that reluctant, but I wasn't all that excited either.) In the VIP, she took control and performed excellently and up to her reputation except for the big happy ending. Apparently it is that time of month.
I went back to the floor and made conversation with several Latina dancers with whom I had an appetite for. Everytime a new dancer sat next to me, Alicia came by and spoke to them in Spanish (a language I'm not fluent in) and grabbed my crouch. Next thing I knew, the dancer I was talking with would grab my crouch and begin playing with me. I was told that Alicia was telling them that I had a huge dick. They wanted to see for themselves. It must have worked because I got lots of free tableside hj action from three different dancers thanks to Alicia's big mouth. In one instance the dancer wasn't hiding anything and was giving the nearby patrons quite a show.
My second trip to the VIP was to take a sexy thing that I have some history with and with whom I knew that I'd get satisfaction. We were having a good time when a mutual dancer friend joined us so we became a threesome. It wasn't long before some great (!) girl-on-girl action took place with some of the best carpet munching I've seen right before my eyes taking place in my lap. It was magical and such a turn-on! They both worked on me once the female orgasms were subsiding. It was a terrific time with lots of good fun and great attitudes from everyone involved.
And yet...I still hadn't had a happy ending. As soon as I walked out of the VIP, I ran into one of my fs regulars who was also so horny that she jumped on me, spun me around, and pulled me back into the VIP. It was only a few seconds before she had my equipment out and was making all the preliminary moves to get things juiced up and ready for action. She put me in and she took off into her own universe until the fireworks went off. I was almost simultaneously cumming with her, lagging by only a few seconds. Both of us collapsed. One of her endearing trademarks is to clean me up with her mouth and tongue. I guess we were just horny enough at just the right time.
All in all, not a bad Friday.
Sexhobbyist
Ok, ok. I'll admit it. I'm one of those who occasionally stops by, usually can't follow the threads because it's been too long, but have found lots of interesting info. I haven't been to one of the clubs in ages. Mostly because being self employed I run way more than average hours. 80 a week isn't out of the norm. But in any case, I found myself on the east side leaving one jobsite and having a couple hours before a meeting later that afternoon. So, I figured I'the stop in CS. Wow. Has it changed since the last time. Well, but then. It may have been Bourbon Street then. ; ) What a wonderful group of ladies! Friendly, willing to stop and chat (wonder if they were thinking, "Hey. New meat! " And all were great dancers and entertainers! Just wanted to say "Thanks" to all who stopped by! Guess I'll have to start routing that way more often!
Just wanted to say had a great time at CS this afternoon. Enjoy it before you end up like us poor slobs in the NE, look and no touch.
All the girls were very friendly and three or four had memorized my name before I left. I was sitting at the stage on the left, and I was focused on the main stage, when I hear a girl call out my name right next to my ear. It was the dancer behind me! LOL She apologized for scaring the bejeezus out of me. (I really didn't mind, what a knockout!).
Several dances offered and taken, thanks for the advice on prepwork guys.
I had one question, is the black door next to the stage in the back left as you walk in, does that go to a VIP room? I saw the one immediately as you walk into CS, but didn't know what the other door was for and if you could just walk in or not.
[QUOTE= I don't like visiting the clubs on Friday because they are all packed with Johnny Paycheck spending his week's allowance, since it's payday. Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]
You bring arrogance to a new low. I assume yours doesn't stink either.
[QUOTE=Paul Stearn]You bring arrogance to a new low. I assume yours doesn't stink either.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I am a SC snob. Shock!
Sexhobbyist
I travel to AZ (Phoenix) quite a bit and have contemplated checking out Tucson. The concern I have is that there's a real dichotomy in the reports for the CS. On one hand SexHobbyist is having outrageous experiences (as well as promoting certain dancers and his self proclaimed large penis) and on the other hand guys are sitting around twiddling their thumbs while dancers blow them off. So I guess what's the real deal on the Tucson SC scene, can an unbiased source without self interest please shed some light on the scene?
Thanks
I had a phenomenal time at CS and more. The answer is in how you prepare for it and what kind of presentation you make of yourself. Read the FAQ on being a good strip club customer. Be clean, be neat, dress nicely, smell nice (don't overdo the cologne--if at all. I've found just a good shower with Dial soap gets lots of compliments combined with a fresh shave and Gillette shaving gel) AND be a bit stylish, be nice, get to know their names by asking, and be sure to let them know your name. Don't expect anything, it will come on its own volition. Realize this is a transaction, but just because you have money that they will do anything to get it.. They won't. They want to be in control, and if you let them, the rest will follow. Don't ask for extras, don't assume that they will be offered, just go with the flow.- the rest will follow, trust me.
As far as dancers being with other customers, yeah, it can be frustrating, but some will eventually come and ask for a dance. I would suggest taking the first few offers (unless she is really hideous), and let the other girls see you're game. They also won't necessarily ask if you want a lap dance, they'll just stand in front of you. Just smile, nod your head and ask, "have time for a dance? " Kill time waiting for lap dances and VIP by giving dollars at the stage.- and exchanging names there and networking with the girls.
Its very different than any club I've been to before. I had a great time. Its more of a local bar feel than Las Vegas strip club.
Hey Gunga,
I don't know that I'm exactly an unbiased source but here goes:
I've traveled quite a lot across the US and (internationally) and have been to a lot of strip clubs. If you have the opportunity to make it to Tucson then I definitely recommend it. The Tucson SC scene combines some of the best value for your money I've found. The girls aren't typically as jaded or spoiled from the big $$$$ places like Vegas, LA, Dallas, etc. I haven't found a friendlier group of dancers anywhere else in the US either.
But the person who seldom visits and doesn't really get to know the dancers is probably going to do more sitting around, waiting, and wondering where all the dancers are and why they aren't coming over after their stage set. Now I have seen some dancers occasionally give new guys very good attention, and have received some myself at times with some I didn't know, so it is certainly possible for the newcomer, just realize it is not as probable on any one visit. Increase your visits and the odds get better and most importantly you get to know the dancers which greatly increase your odds. Most dancers will not offer any extras (whatever her extras may or may not be) until she knows a good thing from some repeat business.
Dancers are looking first for their regulars, followed by frequent patrons of other dancers if those dancers are absent 8^), etc. And then will get around to those who they don't know if things slow down or something catches their eye like a bigger stage tip. Basically the most consistent success will generally be for those who frequent the clubs more, have a healthy SC budget to spend, and the time to cultivate their dancers. This is true everywhere but the Tucson SC scene has in general smaller clubs with fewer dancers working at times so it becomes more apparent.
The Tucson clubs can be hit or miss and especially in the summer months. Sometimes it seems that things are out of sync, dancers are not circulating and MIA, things are just dead. Many clubs do not maintain a set schedule. Then a day or two later things are awesome, with a good ratio of dancers to patrons. And at other times the place can be packed and so full of energy it becomes counter productive with a wait for standing room only VIP and no place to really get to know your favorita. Personally I've been a patron of the SCs for a while, know many of the dancers and staff, and there are times I'm sitting around for a bit leaving bored too. It seems that things are a bit more consistent in the day time from some of SH and others' posts. But most of the time Tucson SCs are the best in the nation IMO.
You may also want to check out Nogales an hour south of Tucson to the border some time as that may be more consistent for less time investment.
Bottom Line: I've had some very good times and often, even if the SCs in Tucson can be inconsistent, with any given day having a wide potential variation, from excellent to lacking in the number of dancers and talent. But IMO that is part of its charm here. Literally _Anything_ can happen.
Enjoy your explorations and happy mongering,
MythicBrew
[QUOTE=Gunga Din]I travel to AZ (Phoenix) quite a bit and have contemplated checking out Tucson. The concern I have is that there's a real dichotomy in the reports for the CS. On one hand SexHobbyist is having outrageous experiences (as well as promoting certain dancers and his self proclaimed large penis) and on the other hand guys are sitting around twiddling their thumbs while dancers blow them off. So I guess what's the real deal on the Tucson SC scene, can an unbiased source without self interest please shed some light on the scene?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drunk Irish]I had one question, is the black door next to the stage in the back left as you walk in, does that go to a VIP room? I saw the one immediately as you walk into CS, but didn't know what the other door was for and if you could just walk in or not.[/QUOTE]
Not sure if anyone ever answered your question but since I was in the CS today (crowded but well worth my time) I noticed the door you mentioned. That is relatively new and is the "smoking lounge." Since the smoke free initiative took effect there is no smoking in CS anymore. The smokers all head through that door to take care of their nicotine fix.
If you get to know the girls and go in often enough (once a week) the more the girls get to know you and go to you when you first walk in.
Cleanliness is a big factor on whether or not a dancer wants to spend more or less time with you. Believe me its not always about the money. If you go in feeling like a porcupine or stinking up the place, eventually all the ladies will know and avoide you.
I go into CS pretty regular. Today was no different from most other days. Girls were circulating and in 2-1/2 hrs, I got maybe two dance offers.
Do you think that maybe I should bump up my bath schedule to twice a month and maybe I'll get more offers? Should I put on some of that foo foo powder and splash a little English Leather? Clean socks?
[QUOTE=Merlin Magician]I go into CS pretty regular. Today was no different from most other days. Girls were circulating and in 2-1/2 hrs, I got maybe two dance offers.
Do you think that maybe I should bump up my bath schedule to twice a month and maybe I'll get more offers? Should I put on some of that foo foo powder and splash a little English Leather? Clean socks?[/QUOTE]
MM, Defintely bump up the bath schedule. Get rid of the English Leather and replace with something like 'Nautica'.
Also reinvent yourself as a Generation 'Y' guy. Mousse up your hair and go to Urban Outfitters to get some new duds and you will be fine.
Just kidding! Stay the same guy that you are!
The dancers will always respect you for who you are. You have been there many times so they must know you. What always works is to have some cash in your pocket, a fresh clean presence, a great attitude and a smile on your face.
IMHO
DN