The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3805044]It's good to be back gents. Thought I would share a couple experiences. First is allythecatsmeow. Everything was great up until the meet when she stood me up, bunch of excuses then ghosted before second try at a meet and greet. Second warning is for summertimesea. We had a great first meeting that lead to the fc. On the second date she gave me a sob story and needed an advance on her allowance. I figured I was safe having been to the fc and her home, but I was wrong. A couple weeks of excuses then ghosted. Hope this helps you brothers out.

Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.[/QUOTE]That one scares me, as a matter of fact they all kind of do. 7 texts weekly to meet is overdone.

Just to reiterate stay away from Rising 4 Dawn, she is looking for a " sponsor" for her summer trip around the country to follow a rock band. Another words a free meal ticket, she is pretty caniving and not worth the expense or aggravation.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3805076]That one scares me, as a matter of fact they all kind of do. 7 texts weekly to meet is overdone.

Just to reiterate stay away from Rising 4 Dawn, she is looking for a " sponsor" for her summer trip around the country to follow a rock band. Another words a free meal ticket, she is pretty caniving and not worth the expense or aggravation.[/QUOTE]Not totally sure what you mean by 7 texts a week though? She blow up your phone? Have you met her? Ant red flags like she might be a set-up?

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3805097]Not totally sure what you mean by 7 texts a week though? She blow up your phone? Have you met her? Ant red flags like she might be a set-up?[/QUOTE]No she did not blow my phone up. Just don't like aggressive messages from someone about meeting, like I am required to because we exchanged texts, not over attracted to her pics and my fear is it would be worse in person. Her asking rate was quite high as well, in the 5 range.

My feeling is it wouldn't be a setup just another mediocre experience.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3805189]No she did not blow my phone up. Just don't like aggressive messages from someone about meeting, like I am required to because we exchanged texts, not over attracted to her pics and my fear is it would be worse in person. Her asking rate was quite high as well, in the 5 range.

My feeling is it wouldn't be a setup just another mediocre experience.[/QUOTE]Ahh, thanks brother.

Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.

[QUOTE=YayaGogo;3804935]Sorry this happened to you and thanks for reporting, but your post makes no sense? I'm assuming you got out of your car eventually to meet her in the coffee place, but how did someone hiding in the back seat of a car get ahold of your money and drive off with it? Missing a lot of details here. Although I hate scammers, it seems you made a lot of mistakes that allowed this to happen. Learn from the lesson and get back in the game wiser than you are now. Good luck!

Yaya.[/QUOTE]Yea is a long story but I mean I followed them and know where they stay even got their plate numbers but not sure if that helps me.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3805761]Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.[/QUOTE]To late. Meet with her a week ago (car meet) bigger than pictures and rushed. But I mean damage was $. 5.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3805761]Another hoodie hustler. Avoid this one if it isn't already too late.

No personality and miserable 15 minute hustle, heavier than her pics but what else is new.[/QUOTE]So my experience was different. Saw her with her friend, jewellloveme. Yes she was a bit heavier, but her friend was awesome. Together they were good time. Haven't been back but not for lack of trying.

I just meet these people in public places now. She showed up with driver, didn't exactly appear healthy so I told her no thanks I want nothing to do with drivers and gave her. 8 to cover gas and time.

Nasty follow up messages telling me how she had to pay her driver 5, like that's really my problem. Told her I don't do the Backpage experience, seems like the same trash is on SA now.

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;3806696]So my experience was different. Saw her with her friend, jewellloveme. Yes she was a bit heavier, but her friend was awesome. Together they were good time. Haven't been back but not for lack of trying.[/QUOTE]Why? They both are on that site 24/7 scouting out future victims.

Wanted details on why I wanted to meet her. I was illusive. Then she said via text she wanted half uprfont and a hotel and I blocked her sounded like police.

[QUOTE=FuckHard;3804481]I contacted this Girl on SA, username littlelu2. Meet at a public coffee place and she wanted me to wait inside for her which I did not do. I stay hiding in my car waiting for her arrival. She arrived in a old mustang seem to be by her self. Went inside got a coffee. Her BF / handler was hiding on the back seat of the mustang tall black guy took money and speed out of parking lot.

Be careful with this one. She block me from SA. I did a little homework and found out her name and info. But nothing I can do LOL.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4e1c6187-9759-4420-ad15-d7873f1daa35[/URL]

I have pictures to share but can't upload them Idk why.[/QUOTE]

Just finding this thread after having abandoned this forum a while ago. Glad I found it again. I'm very experienced in "SA" and have been using in for years. I've met a large majority of the more attractive SBs in the Raleigh and NC areas because I'm single, somewhat attractive (so they say, I don't believe them) and I fuck like a sewing machine. *Insert needle-dick joke*.

Anyway, If you have any questions on any girls, or you need me to scout a POT out, I will. I'm all about older dudes stealing the younger trim from the frat boys who are still looking for the mythical G-spot. My PI game is on point as well and I have access to resources not publicly available even for subscription, so if you happen to get a barrel in the face and your Benjamin's kidnapped, let me know. Just know I pull pussy by offering the inverse to girls on guys who scam them, and it happens a ton. I never pay for pussy, ever, but I get a lot of it off SA because I'm smarter than the average bear. No genius, but in the land of the blind, uh, Hows the saying go?

I've dated a few SBs on there and even accompanied them on dates where the guy wants to gangbang / spitroast / tag team with a fellow pussy connoisseur. I'm not jealous and yep, I've probably counted some of your money but I'm no pimp, I make more than enough of my own money and simply associate for the free on demand pussy benefits. I've made and run profiles on SA for girls too dumb or too bipolar to do so without self-sabotaging any chance at profit. You've probably talked to me before if you're a frequent-flyer to the Raleigh sugar-bowl. I'm not sorry about it because everyone got what they wanted and no one got robbed, hurt, scammed, or their time wasted. I've never set up a meet for less than $400, so the guys fishing in the $150-350 pond, we haven't talked much.

I'm a very experienced dominant, (Hi Fetish friends) and I do stable girls sometimes and own them consensual. I've met a lot of really cool guys off SA connections, so I just keep making more. I guess that's the root of my introduction post. Lets be pals, be merry, and smash young pussy. Safely. Without thugs, robbers, etc. I'm me if you have any questions for me, I'm open with like minded folks.

[QUOTE=Arion;3811653]Just finding this thread after having abandoned this forum a while ago. Glad I found it again. I'm very experienced in "SA" and have been using in for years. I've met a large majority of the more attractive SBs in the Raleigh and NC areas because I'm single, somewhat attractive (so they say, I don't believe them) and I fuck like a sewing machine. *Insert needle-dick joke*.

Anyway, If you have any questions on any girls, or you need me to scout a POT out, I will. I'm all about older dudes stealing the younger trim from the frat boys who are still looking for the mythical G-spot. My PI game is on point as well and I have access to resources not publicly available even for subscription, so if you happen to get a barrel in the face and your Benjamin's kidnapped, let me know. Just know I pull pussy by offering the inverse to girls on guys who scam them, and it happens a ton. I never pay for pussy, ever, but I get a lot of it off SA because I'm smarter than the average bear. No genius, but in the land of the blind, uh, Hows the saying go?

I've dated a few SBs on there and even accompanied them on dates where the guy wants to gangbang / spitroast / tag team with a fellow pussy connoisseur. I'm not jealous and yep, I've probably counted some of your money but I'm no pimp, I make more than enough of my own money and simply associate for the free on demand pussy benefits. I've made and run profiles on SA for girls too dumb or too bipolar to do so without self-sabotaging any chance at profit. You've probably talked to me before if you're a frequent-flyer to the Raleigh sugar-bowl. I'm not sorry about it because everyone got what they wanted and no one got robbed, hurt, scammed, or their time wasted. I've never set up a meet for less than $400, so the guys fishing in the $150-350 pond, we haven't talked much.

I'm a very experienced dominant, (Hi Fetish friends) and I do stable girls sometimes and own them consensual. I've met a lot of really cool guys off SA connections, so I just keep making more. I guess that's the root of my introduction post. Lets be pals, be merry, and smash young pussy. Safely. Without thugs, robbers, etc. I'm me if you have any questions for me, I'm open with like minded folks.[/QUOTE]Ok, let's go there. How about some names?

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3812193]Ok, let's go there. How about some names?[/QUOTE]Bob. Sally. George. I can share SA relevant usernames in PM. I still know many folks on both sides of the fence and have friendships to maintain. .

My take on this website is your more likely to find what you want or in some cases what you don't want from the ones who have been out there more than 6 months on a somewhat daily basis. Most of the new women are disillusioned into thinking they are dealing with generous lonely millionaires who can be exploited. Until reality sinks in.

Met one over a month ago, just over dinner. Never heard back again until today, she only wants 13,000 from me to pay off her car loan over the next few months. On a scale of 1 to 10 she is about a 6, I have to wonder if they just think we are fucking idiots or have lost are minds. I should have made a counter offer for 50 LOL.

This one is so funny. I contacted her on SA, and she asked for the same thing--13 K to pay off her car in the next couple of months. I asked her what she could do to me in return for my money. She said she could give orals. LOL. I said "if I could bang much greater girls for much less, why would I have to see you?" The last message I got from her was "That was mean. " LOL.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3820667]Met one over a month ago, just over dinner. Never heard back again until today, she only wants 13,000 from me to pay off her car loan over the next few months. On a scale of 1 to 10 she is about a 6, I have to wonder if they just think we are fucking idiots or have lost are minds. I should have made a counter offer for 50 LOL.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3720736]Has anyone seen this tall blonde babe? I'm trying to figure out where she is on the sugar food chain:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b7c3a93b-4594-4da0-b3fd-6237d42e11a8[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ntcuonghm1;3821014]Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.[/QUOTE]There are some women out there with an inflated opinion of what they are worth out there.

I love how they accept an initial offer and than afterwards upping it another $ or so, how about the ones expecting $$$ just to meet. They must somehow think they can get it from someone.

Spent too much time texting with sweeeet-T2017 [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cc03acc7-83be-db6f-e7c9-ea987c5ef3f3[/URL] last week. Flaked on meeting twice an gave me a story when I said I needed a selfie to prove she's real. She's either running a con, fake, or super flaky utr pro.

In other news, any brothers out there have any tips on keeping a baby interested? I can't seem to keep a baby interested after the second trip to the FC. Anyone else have this issue? I'm hoping to find something a little more long term so I can let my premium membership expire for a while. Just seems I'm always having to be on the hunt for the next baby.

Can confirm, especially the part about being bigger. Nice and banging in different places was kind of fun. And saved FC costs. Didn't repeat.

Stay safe.

Med.

[QUOTE=Ntcuonghm1;3821014]Not sure if you met her. I banged her a few months ago for 200. She works as a realtor and is much bigger than her pics. She is nice, though. I don't think I would repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3821422]Spent too much time texting with sweeeet-T2017 [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/cc03acc7-83be-db6f-e7c9-ea987c5ef3f3[/URL] last week. Flaked on meeting twice an gave me a story when I said I needed a selfie to prove she's real. She's either running a con, fake, or super flaky utr pro.

In other news, any brothers out there have any tips on keeping a baby interested? I can't seem to keep a baby interested after the second trip to the FC. Anyone else have this issue? I'm hoping to find something a little more long term so I can let my premium membership expire for a while. Just seems I'm always having to be on the hunt for the next baby.[/QUOTE]The formula on there is simple, look for the ones posting regularly for 6 months or longer. They probably started looking for a grand slam and by now reality has sunk in. Most still use 5 as a starting point to see how gullible you are but 3 is more like what they will settle for. Of course the hoodie hustlers will give you the q. V. Backpage experience for 2 or less.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3821686]The formula on there is simple, look for the ones posting regularly for 6 months or longer. They probably started looking for a grand slam and by now reality has sunk in. Most still use 5 as a starting point to see how gullible you are but 3 is more like what they will settle for. Of course the hoodie hustlers will give you the q. V. Backpage experience for 2 or less.[/QUOTE]Yep, she is a pro. Met her a year ago or so. Nothing specia for sure. Larger that she looks and not all that good.

Definitely an interesting dichotomy among the girls when it comes to age. I have had better experience over time with girls in the 27-35 range, and this is consistent in Raleigh and beyond in my travels. Often, girls in this age group, that are not desperate for funds, are really more interested in having fun with someone who treats them well and knows what they are doing.

The best college girls are the ones that truly want to experience some life with an older, successful guy.

Regardless of age, I have had the most fun with educated girls that are looking for stress release or looking for a little extra fun in their busy lives.

[QUOTE=Joerdu;3822261]Definitely an interesting dichotomy among the girls when it comes to age. I have had better experience over time with girls in the 27-35 range, and this is consistent in Raleigh and beyond in my travels. Often, girls in this age group, that are not desperate for funds, are really more interested in having fun with someone who treats them well and knows what they are doing.

The best college girls are the ones that truly want to experience some life with an older, successful guy.

Regardless of age, I have had the most fun with educated girls that are looking for stress release or looking for a little extra fun in their busy lives.[/QUOTE]It is starting to feel like B. P. With the same ones posting daily.

I question how many are really educated as well, lots of fake intellectualism in their posts. 18 -21 year olds trying to sound worldly to attract the high paying idiots who believe them.

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3805044]
Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.[/QUOTE]She's a sweet girl. Very alt look with piercings. Thick in a muscular way, but sexy. Keep it professional though. Like many of the girls on here she has drama, and it won't do you any good to be a white knight.

[QUOTE=Trialrun;3825276]She's a sweet girl. Very alt look with piercings. Thick in a muscular way, but sexy. Keep it professional though. Like many of the girls on here she has drama, and it won't do you any good to be a white knight.[/QUOTE]Man the texts never stopped. Just to plain for what she was asking.

Since the Asian escort scene is basically non existent and the massage places are all crappy rub and tug joints, I'm looking for an Asian SB. Any input on the Asian girls on SA in the area? Thanks.

Med.

[QUOTE=MedJohnson;3828151]Since the Asian escort scene is basically non existent and the massage places are all crappy rub and tug joints, I'm looking for an Asian SB. Any input on the Asian girls on SA in the area? Thanks.

Med.[/QUOTE]Only seen one lately, a pretty good bet is they all will be Asian American.

Is it just me or does anyone else notice that all these women seemed to be asking 5 at the beginning.

Almost like a lot of them are coached by some pimp and told they can get it. I've must have had conversations with at least a dozen, some come at you with offers of 8 but say they will settle for no less than 5. Of course they are on there daily, I doubt they are getting it.

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3805044]

Now a question for y'all, anyone meet up with DeeOGeebby? I've got a m&g coming up with her and I'm just much more cautious these days. No major red flags or anything, just cautious.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link? Is she on SA?

[QUOTE=CareBear2;3832485]Do you have a link? Is she on SA?[/QUOTE]Every single day LOL.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3833310]Every single day LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't see her.

[QUOTE=CareBear2;3832485]Do you have a link? Is she on SA?[/QUOTE]I've met her. Like most on SA she starts out asking for 5 but will quickly back down to 3, which is way to much given her skill set and somewhat freaky look. My feeling is that she does not really want to be a sugar baby but does it to make ends meet. That being said she seems like a nice girl that is having a hard time getting her life in order. There may be some demons there but none that are evident. She did text a few days later wanting an advance on her allowance that I declined. I have not heard from her since but she is still around. I probably would not repeat as she has her skills are that of someone inexperienced. Hopefully this report helps.

[QUOTE=PirateX01;3834714]I've met her. Like most on SA she starts out asking for 5 but will quickly back down to 3, which is way to much given her skill set and somewhat freaky look. My feeling is that she does not really want to be a sugar baby but does it to make ends meet. That being said she seems like a nice girl that is having a hard time getting her life in order. There may be some demons there but none that are evident. She did text a few days later wanting an advance on her allowance that I declined. I have not heard from her since but she is still around. I probably would not repeat as she has her skills are that of someone inexperienced. Hopefully this report helps.[/QUOTE]Excellent feedback. Pretty much what I expected given the contact I had with her.

I think some pimp is coaching most of them out there, they all seem to ask for 5 to start. Although I had a few misguided souls with an overvalued self worth ask for a grand. Most are refusing offers of 3 and 4 and that's all right with me because so far I haven't seen anything really great out there.

Hello brothers, wondering if any of you have dealt with kissesbella (20, Durham)? Had a pretty good m&g with her and am setting up a date with a trip to the fc. She's real and I would bet money demon-free, but can't shake the feeling this one might have some kind of handler.

Speaking of handlers, I actually doubt most of these girls on S. A. Have one. Most likely they are coaching each other. They have got to be networking or sharing info somehow though. Whether it's a forum out there (much like us here) or some kind of social media, I've been searching for info geared toward sugar babies, and will report back if I find something relevant.

Thanks brothers, stay safe out there.

I think if you stick with real college girls or established, suburban type women, you are not going to encounter any kind of handler, etc. There are still plenty of authentic, real girls on there that are intrigued by an older man, that just want to have some fun enhancing their lives.

[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3839105]Hello brothers, wondering if any of you have dealt with kissesbella (20, Durham)? Had a pretty good m&g with her and am setting up a date with a trip to the fc. She's real and I would bet money demon-free, but can't shake the feeling this one might have some kind of handler.

Speaking of handlers, I actually doubt most of these girls on S. A. Have one. Most likely they are coaching each other. They have got to be networking or sharing info somehow though. Whether it's a forum out there (much like us here) or some kind of social media, I've been searching for info geared toward sugar babies, and will report back if I find something relevant.

Thanks brothers, stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]I was thinking about contacting her myself, but never did as I had the same thoughts. Let us know how it goes, and good luck!

Yaya.

She has been on there regularly so I tried setting up something. I agreed originally to her high asking price because she appears hot and promised non rush, than she suggests an initial meeting over dinner. I was all set up for today but than I get a message.

From her that she requires a gift of compensation just to meet.

Again another case of GPS so I cancelled, I have given small gifts for initial neutral site meetings before before but was turned off by the request.

Updates on Deeogeebby and kissesbella.

KissesBella, very attractive, legit, legal, doubt has a handler. Limited menu and shyness probably a dealbreaker for most though.

Deeogeebby. Had a few good dates but demons 100% confirmed on last date. Behavior has become erratic as well. Sweet girl but in a bad place. Avoid at all costs!