Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

I can't think of anywhere else to post this but I wanted to see if anyone else is seeing an increase of ladies flat out asking "Come see me I'm broke and haven't worked" or "Could you please wire me some money so I can (feed the kids) (pay the rent) (keep my hotel room) (etc)". Thing is when you tell them you don't have the resources some say "I understand and come see me when you can" others get downright nasty. Yeah that's a sure fired way to get me to come back. This week I marked another off my list because she got nasty when I couldn't help her like she wanted.

Anybody else experiencing this? How do you handle it?

[QUOTE=LookinGood;3073446]I can't think of anywhere else to post this but I wanted to see if anyone else is seeing an increase of ladies flat out asking "Come see me I'm broke and haven't worked" or "Could you please wire me some money so I can (feed the kids) (pay the rent) (keep my hotel room) (etc)". Thing is when you tell them you don't have the resources some say "I understand and come see me when you can" others get downright nasty. Yeah that's a sure fired way to get me to come back. This week I marked another off my list because she got nasty when I couldn't help her like she wanted.

Anybody else experiencing this? How do you handle it?[/QUOTE]Backpages or craigslist or where? Sounds like a situation to avoid. Desperate people are nothing but trouble.

Bac.

[QUOTE=Tabor;3073460]Backpages or craigslist or where? Sounds like a situation to avoid. Desperate people are nothing but trouble.

Bac.[/QUOTE]Mostly backpage. Since CL changed their policies it's near impossible to find a hook-up. It seems all of BP is turning into people with trouble. As I said I'm sorry but I can't be the savior of BP.

[QUOTE=LookinGood;3073446]I can't think of anywhere else to post this but I wanted to see if anyone else is seeing an increase of ladies flat out asking "Come see me I'm broke and haven't worked" or "Could you please wire me some money so I can (feed the kids) (pay the rent) (keep my hotel room) (etc)". Thing is when you tell them you don't have the resources some say "I understand and come see me when you can" others get downright nasty. Yeah that's a sure fired way to get me to come back. This week I marked another off my list because she got nasty when I couldn't help her like she wanted.

The problem with the increased rates is that a lot of providers are doing far less volume to the point where it's scary sometimes. A couple of months ago I talked a provider into a reasonable 100/hh and when we were in the room she told me about how it was just a special and her usual rate was 180/hh and 350/h. Apparently that week she had only done 2 guys (both for the hh) and had run out of money.

Anybody else experiencing this? How do you handle it?[/QUOTE]How you react depends on a lot of factors. Do you see the providers often? Does she actively post? Does she always show you a good time? Do you still discuss price or does she take what you give? Does she ever flake? What's her reaction when you can't meet? Have you ever fucked for free? Is it a call or a text (texts can mean it goes to multiple guys)?

IMO it's a bold movie for a provider to do that. It means that something about you says pushover or something about your interactions says it's okay for them to be that familiar with you. With the vast majority of providers I try to keep it 100% transactional. Of the ones who I would help in a pinch, they had all given me a freebie, not watched the clock, dropped their rates a lot after the first few times, gone the extra mile more often than not and so forth. I guess the biggest thing no matter what you do is not to put yourself in the position to be taken advantage of emotionally or financially. I've met way too many prostitutes who pretty much want something for nothing or expect guys like us to pay while some other guy benefits.

I remember getting into a huge argument with a prostitute once because she tried to charge me full price because she was low on funds and school was starting. I recommended she ask her kids dad for cash which turned into her talking about how he doesn't work and isn't any good which turned into me asking how much he pays to stay with her and fuck her because there were mens clothes in the closet and she had mentioned before that she lets him stay there sometimes. She flew off the handle about how it was none of my business and I added her to my phone's blacklist.

I remember another chick who was a stripper who lived in hotels. 1-2 x / week I would give her room money and fuck her. The rate was usually pretty reasonable and she would let me take some liberties that in hindsight I should not have. One night she asked for room money even though she was on her period and because of the history I gave it to her. I was in the parking lot and saw a guy going into her room so the next time I saw her I confronted her and she gave some bs about how it was just her friend and they just cuddled. I knew it was bs and she was starting to get too familar. The straw that broke the camel's back was one day when she asked for the room money up front and for me to come back later for us to do the deed, we'd done this before and she never flaked but like I said she was getting too familiar. I told her she could suck my dick in my car and we'd call it even. When she refused I left and stopped taking her calls.

There are a lot of reasons why a woman might be in a financial bind and none of them should be your fault. Don't be a douche but make sure you get something if you're willing to be the knight in shining armor and that something should not be a promise for what she'll do in the future.

Great advice. It also applies to AMPs, and life in general. Some guys get into situations they don't know how to get out of.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3078816]How you react depends on a lot of factors. Do you see the providers often? Does she actively post? Does she always show you a good time? Do you still discuss price or does she take what you give? Does she ever flake? What's her reaction when you can't meet? Have you ever fucked for free? Is it a call or a text (texts can mean it goes to multiple guys)?

IMO it's a bold movie for a provider to do that. It means that something about you says pushover or something about your interactions says it's okay for them to be that familiar with you. With the vast majority of providers I try to keep it 100% transactional. Of the ones who I would help in a pinch, they had all given me a freebie, not watched the clock, dropped their rates a lot after the first few times, gone the extra mile more often than not and so forth. I guess the biggest thing no matter what you do is not to put yourself in the position to be taken advantage of emotionally or financially. I've met way too many prostitutes who pretty much want something for nothing or expect guys like us to pay while some other guy benefits.

I remember getting into a huge argument with a prostitute once because she tried to charge me full price because she was low on funds and school was starting. I recommended she ask her kids dad for cash which turned into her talking about how he doesn't work and isn't any good which turned into me asking how much he pays to stay with her and fuck her because there were mens clothes in the closet and she had mentioned before that she lets him stay there sometimes. She flew off the handle about how it was none of my business and I added her to my phone's blacklist.

I remember another chick who was a stripper who lived in hotels. 1-2 x / week I would give her room money and fuck her. The rate was usually pretty reasonable and she would let me take some liberties that in hindsight I should not have. One night she asked for room money even though she was on her period and because of the history I gave it to her. I was in the parking lot and saw a guy going into her room so the next time I saw her I confronted her and she gave some bs about how it was just her friend and they just cuddled. I knew it was bs and she was starting to get too familar. The straw that broke the camel's back was one day when she asked for the room money up front and for me to come back later for us to do the deed, we'd done this before and she never flaked but like I said she was getting too familiar. I told her she could suck my dick in my car and we'd call it even. When she refused I left and stopped taking her calls.

There are a lot of reasons why a woman might be in a financial bind and none of them should be your fault. Don't be a douche but make sure you get something if you're willing to be the knight in shining armor and that something should not be a promise for what she'll do in the future.[/QUOTE]

One provider that is no longer working the scene said her way of staying super busy was to let every guy cum in her mouth and even an occasional one raw dog it and cum inside her. She mentioned that she'd see at least 8-10 guys daily when she was working and would have to shut her phone off when not working. By the time she was ready to work again she said her voicemail was full and she'd have at least 100 texts. Just the thought of a girl being a self proclaimed cum dumpster turned me off. However, I am almost positive that if any of you guys saw a girl reviewed as such, you'd be heading over in droves to deposit your DNA.

Another discussion was about mongers not into tattooed ladies. This girl had a lot of tattoos and was a highly reviewed lady. She mentioned how some guys didn't want to see her because of her tattoos. She was feeling a little generous one time and told a guy that she would see him for free to show him tattooed girls were a lot more fun. Long story short, he became her regular for several years and even felt bad on that very first visit that he gave her the donation anyway. Her view was. "He may not like tatted girls but once I have his cock in me, he'll like tatted girls from here on out and won't be such a prude" She was right!

[QUOTE=MrSmithwick;3083530]One provider that is no longer working the scene said her way of staying super busy was to let every guy cum in her mouth and even an occasional one raw dog it and cum inside her. She mentioned that she'd see at least 8-10 guys daily when she was working and would have to shut her phone off when not working. By the time she was ready to work again she said her voicemail was full and she'd have at least 100 texts. Just the thought of a girl being a self proclaimed cum dumpster turned me off. However, I am almost positive that if any of you guys saw a girl reviewed as such, you'd be heading over in droves to deposit your DNA.
[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you won't be sharing who she was. On a serious note, I've yet to meet the provider who won't work as long as the phone is on. The closest I've come is a few who up the price significantly after a certain time. In regards to the CIM thing, there was a time when Raleigh had no shortage of hot young chicks on backpage. During that time providers who wanted repeat customers had to do things to keep guys coming back and yes that led to some of them doing some unsafe things. Hell there was a time when I could demand that a provider shower while I wait and not have it count against the clock. I remember once having a provider tell me she was out of condoms but I could go raw because I was her regular. I passed because from previous discussions I knew she dealt with mostly regulars which meant it wasn't a good idea.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3078816]How you react depends on a lot of factors. ........................I knew it was bs and she was starting to get too familar.[/QUOTE]If they text you, use Amateur's rule of plausibility. I got wise to this a while back after I realized the text could plausibly be sent to any guy in her phone, not just me. The tipoff was when she replied and seemed surprised that I replied. Ok. So why text me? Aha. Now I ignore any text from any provider who I know posts at least once a week or who has been "actively working" in some capacity for a long enough period of time that it is likely she has at least a couple dozen guys in her phone. In this case, if they address me by name, or with some other specific question, I'm comfortable enough that it's not a mass text. I have one UTR who posts very infrequently and is relatively new, who when she texts me, I know she's texting me.

(at least for now, which leads to the "starting to get too familiar" that Joe pointed out above). All women are biologically driven to want to be taken care of by a man and partner up. If she doesn't have a partner, or has a sorry partner, and she gets into the biz, she is either trying to survive or trying to feed a habit. All too often, trying to survive leads TO a habit, but whether that is the case or not, the more you see a girl and you are not a total dick, and you become the top 10% (or the best) male she has known or currently has access to, she becomes dependent and also sees light at the end of the tunnel. You've now been marked, and the longer you stick around the more psycho she is going to get on you.

I think this is what I call the "paradox of the regular," as in we all seem to talk about wanting a steady regular, but none of these girls are capable of providing exactly what we want and ONLY what we want, for any length of time. Eventually, as has happened to me, it just gets really fucking weird all of a sudden, and spidey sense kicks in and says GTFO, FAST, at which point I never reply to them again.

[QUOTE=LookinGood;3073540]Mostly backpage. Since CL changed their policies it's near impossible to find a hook-up. It seems all of BP is turning into people with trouble. As I said I'm sorry but I can't be the savior of BP.[/QUOTE]I was just approached recently by an AMP girl wanting to move in with me! I am pretty sure she was for real. She's a LOT of fun and we'd probably have a good time, but where would it go? And how psycho would she get? I was thinking she might be preggo and I'm pretty sure she lives at the store, so I was thinking that was the reason for wanting to shack up. Anyway, come to find out, the building that they in is for sale. Wondering if they are going to have trouble during the sales period and inspections. Or maybe with a new owner, although owner probably don't give 2 fux. Or maybe she saw a white whale (although the only thing whalish about is my fat azz) since I drop a few hundred bucks every time I visit, which is pretty frequent.

Stay safe. Med.

So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160129]So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.[/QUOTE]First, I hope you didn't really do that or have a really good reason.

Second, let this be a lesson to everyone to NEVER GIVE OUT YOUR REAL name. I go so far as to never let them know what I drive or where I'm parked. Oh, and for crying out loud get an anonymous pre-paid phone if you don't have one.

Sorry, no suggestions for the blacklist.

[QUOTE=LookinGood;3160196]First, I hope you didn't really do that or have a really good reason.

Second, let this be a lesson to everyone to NEVER GIVE OUT YOUR REAL name. I go so far as to never let them know what I drive or where I'm parked. Oh, and for crying out loud get an anonymous pre-paid phone if you don't have one.

Sorry, no suggestions for the blacklist.[/QUOTE]300 for an hour and only 1 pop. Also I only make 12 an hr. Good enough for you?

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160129]So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.[/QUOTE]Looking Good's advice is spot on, things can go sideways at anytime. Having a firewall between who knocks on a SP's hotel door and your personal life is imperative. Secondly, you are disingenuous, and this requires all subsequent 'clients' to navigate (circumvent) your abhorrent actions. I do my best not to judge people, but their are protocols we all must adhere to. You did not. Additionally, do not try to justify your actions, it provides further insight into just who you are.

Reluctantly, I have sent you a PM with the information you requested.

[QUOTE=Jlart123;3160129]So I found out recently that my name has been placed on an Escort Bad Boy Report online for giving a provider an envelope stuffed with paper instead of roses (the incident itself happened in 2011). It's embarrassing and effecting my personal life and is the first thing that comes up on Google Search. Not to worried about BP because those girls don't screen or no about sites like these for the most part but certainly I have concerns about my family, work, or potential relationships being affected by this. Any Suggestions or Advice on how to handle this? PMs would be preferable.[/QUOTE]PM me the name of the blacklist site and I can probably give you some better advice. What exact information does it have about you? If it is your name, phone number or something personal then you should be able to write them an email and say that an identity theft / fraud scan revealed that their site had personal information about you listed in association with prostitution. Respectfully ask them to take it down or you will take legal action. I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you can post hearsay about someone that is damaging. For example, if I posted on a site that you were a crack dealer you can argue that it does you professional harm and ask me to take it down. If you are successful with that then you will need to contact all major search engines with copies of your email correspondence with the site and ask them to remove any references from their indexes. It may end up being a long process.

For anyone reading: never give your real name no matter how into the provider you are unless you know her real name and other damaging information and even then try to limit what you share. If some agency or sex worker requires personal information then offer cash or a provider reference and if that's still not good enough then take a pass. No pussy is worth being client # 5.

Boys, just a friendly reminder that just hit me last week, you can actually catch STDs even while using condoms *all the time* (no BBBJ for me ever).

I've always been very diligent with condom use, that didn't protect me from catching HPV, now I'm on a kick ass treatment to get rid of genital warts (yes, yuk). How much fun is that.

Unfortunately I cannot "post AIDS / STD allegations in the forum" but I am pretty confident to know which provider I saw while I contracted it, I don't see that many anyways.

Oh well, I was supposed to retire from the hobby anyways. Please, stay safe brothers.