Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]That pays premium rates for all those services you don't like. I'm glad I'm ruining it for you, because you appear to be a dick.

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]I think you're looking for a street or back alley experience, not an escort experience. There is a market (and a forum thread) just for that sort of service and rates. Check the Streetwalker Reports thread, and you'll probably find a better fit for your tastes.

Thank you all for your replies.

I don't want to take your (or my) valuable time too much, so I will do this. Here are my responses below. Just pick whichever you feel suits to you. Feel free to pick more than one if you want to. I have thrown in some extras. Therefore, not every item has an address. Don't be confused.

Please just remember, "Life is short, but sweet for certain".

Not in any particular order. Please have fun.

1- Thank you.

2- Yes, your right.

3- No, your wrong.

4- Yes, I agree.

5- No, I disagree.

6- Let's agree to disagree.

7- No, I did not call you stupid.

8- No, thank you but I wasn't asking help in that post. Nor, I was complaining about not getting help. You missed the whole point.

9- No, I did not get offended. Why would I?

10- Don't worry about my lay count. I am doing pretty fine. Though, I am always looking for "prettier" and "finer" LOL.

11- Can you really read? I mean; can you really comprehend what you are reading?

12- You don't know what you are talking about but that's okay. I don't have the time nor the energy to explain it you. Your hopeless anyway.

13- I am sorry that you felt like you have been disrespected. It was never my intention. I don't understand why you would feel like that but nevertheless, I am very sorry.

14- No, I am not real. I am an officer to hunt you all down. LOL.

15- I appreciate you all for taking the time to respond. I really do.

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2591094]Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.[/QUOTE]I liked this one. Right on point.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Nky777;2591607]Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?

Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.[/QUOTE]Charging too much money by whose opinion. The provider sets the price. If the provider doesn't get the business they hope for by their asking price then they can decide if they are asking too much. Its up to them not you. Your option is to not see them. Not to demand they lower their price. Do you really think a provider, who is trying to make money, gives a damn what you look like. Their price is what it is. If they are comfortable in what they make for the amount they need then their price is just right. If they need more they can lower their price. If you don't like their price, its certainly your option to not do business with them. Yes we see providers all the time that seem to charge more or equivalent to other providers that we consider better service, looks, etc. And we say compared to the others she is charging too much. But if she is keeping that price, and getting sufficient business to where she is satisfied, then she is not charging too much. She is getting what she needs.

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.

When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.

Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.

Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.

Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.

Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?

I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!

Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.

Now this happened to me very recently.

I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.

"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".

Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.

Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".

Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.

I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]Well I hate to break this to you buy yes, even acronyms like CIM can get the provider arrested after price has been agreed. In Ohio courts its accepted that common acronyms used in specific forums via electronic communications can be considered common known terms for accepted acts. In other words, if you contact someone via a automobile support forum then CIM can mean something involving cars. However if you contact an escort via BP, etc, and then ask about CIM, its accepted that you are talking about a sexual act. In Ohio for a provider to be charged with solicitation, they have to bring up money, which they all do quoting rates, and then stating a specific sex act for that rate. Now if this done via text, LE when arriving to see the provider has to verify with the provider themselves the details of the text or at least confirm they are aware of what the officer is wanting for the rate. Then they can be charged with solicitation. The girls are trying be safe. I agree some of the requests are unreasonable. Yes I would never send a picture of my junk to a provider. That itself can be illegal but the girls know LE would never do that, and they wouldn't. Some providers definitely go to far but its a risky give and take for them. They want the business and they want you to know what you will get but they also don't want to get arrested. I too try to get details from them before I see them because I don't want to ripped into them saying they never said they would do this or that. But if a provider just won't budge and wants to see pictures and won't say a thing without them or something else I'm uncomfortable with, I tell them I understand and move on. If its somebody you just have to see for some reason, show up and try to hash it out in person. That is if you are comfortable they are not LE.

[QUOTE=SinfulDreams;2592400]You might not be, but now you are definitely the only one that a lot of the upscale, and reputable providers will NOT see. If you pay what you pay, yes see a SW. It's an experience, not just to come in and bust your nut and leave. I actually will NOT see the serial hobbyist that wants a notch on his hobby belt. The way you talk and downgrade a female says a lot about you, regardless of whether or not you are GQ material. I don't feel I am entitled at all. I have busted my ass for 3 years, and I take damn good care of my clients with wearing lingerie, hair and makeup done, incall is clean and very upscale, refreshments, everything they need even if they want to take a shower, and a hot towel warmer. THAT is what a good provider does, NOT someone is is entitled.

You are every reason why the nice guys get a bad name. If you keep that mentality, you will not get far in this hobby.[/QUOTE]Plus one: smiling:

[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2592390]Thank you all for your replies.

I liked this one. Right on point.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I meant that being if you were a cop, calling yourself deepblue would be stupid. But then, being a cop who wastes his / her life chasing down adults who do this thing, you would probably be one of the DUMB cops.

I think it's far more likely you just like shitty music from the 90's.

I think what I was trying to say was taken out of context and I didn't mean to offend anyone if that was the case. It wasn't directed towards anyone and I apologize. Not a dick and didn't mean to come off as one. I'm not stuck on myself but maybe a little cheap at times and like to find the best special possible. LOL walmart price matches competitors ads.

NOT A DICK BTW.

So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2593037]So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.[/QUOTE]I was on that site a number of years back but used other email address. Where does one look to find the list of names or addresses? I thought this was still on the "hidden internet", which those of us not very tech savvy have no idea how to access. Do you have any idea?

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2593037]So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Did you ask her why she was looking for your name on the list?

[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2593090]Did you ask her why she was looking for your name on the list?[/QUOTE]LOL. Because her friend found her husbands name on the list. I've done a few dumb things while on my journey in the hobby but I try to think things thru before making a plunge. Again be safe.

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2593127]LOL. Because her friend found her husbands name on the list. I've done a few dumb things while on my journey in the hobby but I try to think things thru before making a plunge. Again be safe.[/QUOTE]SO is she some kind of webmaster? Thought you had to go through two levels of something called the Dark Web? I'm not familiar with this but from what the media is reporting it is difficult to get to the list? It is also illegal to download the stolen information. I would also assume that the hackers have a way of hacking innocent folks trying to verify if they are on the list or not. I think it is best not to even check.

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2592638]I meant that being if you were a cop, calling yourself deepblue would be stupid. But then, being a cop who wastes his / her life chasing down adults who do this thing, you would probably be one of the DUMB cops.

I think it's far more likely you just like shitty music from the 90's.[/QUOTE]He could be a cop, that thinks we'd think it's stupid to call himself deepblue and dismiss it! Just kidding. I don't care either way.

As far as vice being stupid, it may be from the perspective of why someone would chase after it, but it wasn't so long ago that a knowledgeable poster highlighted how valuable the revenue model around pinching mongers is. It's a money maker for the city or they wouldn't do it.

[QUOTE=DJake069;2593210]SO is she some kind of webmaster? Thought you had to go through two levels of something called the Dark Web? I'm not familiar with this but from what the media is reporting it is difficult to get to the list? It is also illegal to download the stolen information. I would also assume that the hackers have a way of hacking innocent folks trying to verify if they are on the list or not. I think it is best not to even check.[/QUOTE][URL]https://ashley.cynic.al[/URL]

Use at your own risk. Another site, [URL]trustify.com[/URL] or something like that, is pulling the email addresses that people enter and then spamming them. Of all the choices, this one "appears" to be the most legit. None of my real addresses showed up. Burner address from a free trial years ago was there. So who knows based on and=1 but there ya go.

Have a great day.

Dz.

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2593127]LOL. Because her friend found her husbands name on the list. I've done a few dumb things while on my journey in the hobby but I try to think things thru before making a plunge. Again be safe.[/QUOTE]I was just messing with ya. LOL. I'm still kicking myself around about a dumb thing I did in the hobby a couple of months ago but at least I learned from it.

Dear Karma,
I have a list of people you've missed.

Sincerely,
Mojo.

[QUOTE=DJake069;2593210]I think it is best not to even check.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. My S. O. Said something about the Ashley Madison thing when it came out and I played Mr. Stupid about it and responded "Is that the girl that had the show at Planet Hollywood in Vegas a few years back?" (actually it was Holly Madison) Other than a few choice words about Josh Duggar she hasn't mentioned it since.

[QUOTE=TommyJohn;2586804]Does anyone else occasionally have a problem logging in from a smart phone? I enter the info and it acts like your logging in but user name still comes back blank. Not to big a deal, just wondering if anyone else has this issue.[/QUOTE]This is very common for me hun, in fact, it does it to me every single time. You are logged in. Do you know at the top left corner, just a little bit from the top of the page where there are 5 tabs, the first one being front page, then forum, then what's new, photo gallery, and anbreviations? Just tough the one that says forum and then your screen will look like a screen that has been logged in. I hoe that this helps.

[QUOTE=Davem7643;2593037]So my wife yesterday told me that my name was not on the list of Ashley Madison clients when the hacker put them on the internet. HMMM. Probably why I never use my real name, use a burner phone, etc. The hobby is a place where you always need to use the big head before you can use the little head. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Checked a burner email address I used there years ago and wham! There it was. Welcome to "don't give a fuck land. " Population: me.

I try to tell these guys all the time when they start asking me all them crazy questions that if they would just read my reviews and my ad that they would have no need in asking me anything! It really kills me when they ask am I sure that I'm not one of them girls with a bf in the back going to jump out and Rob them! Lmao! I mean really, if I was that type of girl, do they really think that I'm going to say yes. LOL I just say to check out my reviews. Silly silly men.

[QUOTE=TheGardener1;2591400]Almost all your questions can be answered if you take the time to read reviews. Newer girl with few reviews? Your loss. Look at the more established providers.[/QUOTE]

I see that good ole Charlie Sheen says he wants to be Trumps v. P. If that happens and they somehow win, I wonder if Charlie will try to legalize pay for play. Just a thought.

It made me giggle figured you guys might need a laugh today!

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;2596452]It made me giggle figured you guys might need a laugh today![/QUOTE]Wasn't sure if I should laugh or be sad.

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;2596452]It made me giggle figured you guys might need a laugh today![/QUOTE]I don't see anything funny about that at all. Just kidding, I got a giggle out of it too. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;2596452]It made me giggle figured you guys might need a laugh today![/QUOTE]You don't miss your water till you're well runs dry!

I am glad you guys could enjoy this! Have a great weekend and don't forget it is my birthday today! Love you guys and be safe out there!

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;2597236]I am glad you guys could enjoy this! Have a great weekend and don't forget it is my birthday today! Love you guys and be safe out there![/QUOTE]Happy Birthday Sweetie.

Enjoy your day sweetheart. I've got to take.

A day and see you again soon.

Luv.

[QUOTE=VelvetRayne;2597236]I am glad you guys could enjoy this! Have a great weekend and don't forget it is my birthday today! Love you guys and be safe out there![/QUOTE]

Many birthday wishes your way. I hope you have a fabulous day.

[QUOTE=LuvdaLadys14;2597729]Enjoy your day sweetheart. I've got to take.

A day and see you again soon.

Luv.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the birthday wish sweetie! Yes I would like to see you again as it has been a very long time!!

Have a great weekend!!

Xoxo.

[QUOTE=Josh88;2597959]I am sure her performance was great, but IMO those particular pics are not going to generate her a lot of biz. Maybe she looks better in person? Nice tat though.[/QUOTE]I am sure we all give a fuck about your opinion. Thousands of posts of this?

Why is this dork able to post this shit?

[blue]Why are you able to post THIS shit?

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Josh88;2597959]I am sure her performance was great, but IMO those particular pics are not going to generate her a lot of biz. Maybe she looks better in person? Nice tat though.[/QUOTE]So it's 25 posts to be a senior. And 2500 posts to be allowed by the admin to act like an annoying asshole?

Can we get a review from the site admins on your services?

[blue]Since his posts seem to traumatize you so much I added him to your ignore list, problem solved.

You're welcome

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2598080]So it's 25 posts to be a senior. And 2500 posts to be allowed by the admin to act like an annoying asshole?

Can we get a review from the site admins on your services?

[blue]Since his posts seem to traumatize you so much I added him to your ignore list, problem solved.

You're welcome

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Thanks, but that doesn't tell the rest of us if he's skills are worth special treatment.

[QUOTE=Missvictoria;2597760]Many birthday wishes your way. I hope you have a fabulous day.[/QUOTE]My day was wonderful thank you. Thank you for the birthday wishes it means a lot to me.

Be safe and have fun!

Xoxo,

VR.

So its 30 post to be a complete "J O" and not a real review posted. Post some real reviews of your own. Start a report / review and tell us about your experience, following up on another mongers review and adding your own comments dosent count. So far you have posted some weak ass BS that amounts to nothing. 30 post and you have officially reached "J O" status with or without admin approval. FYI "J O" is Jerk Off which is a higher level of A Hole. Get out there and bust some pussy and tell us how it went.

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2598080]So it's 25 posts to be a senior. And 2500 posts to be allowed by the admin to act like an annoying asshole?

Can we get a review from the site admins on your services?

[blue]Since his posts seem to traumatize you so much I added him to your ignore list, problem solved.

You're welcome

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]

Funny business these girls find them selves in. They post old pics get shit, they post new pics they get shit. I could have posted these. She's s few pounds lighter but why would I? So She can hear they choir sing about wanting new pics, that reflect her accurately, as she is in the present? I posted relevant pics of of her today. I still think she looks great! I've seen many girls using older pics. In their present state, they are not in as good as shape as they were when the had great pics taken. I see it from lot of girls, including some self proclaimed top notch providers. Right off the top of my head I can't think of any girl that has posted (or given permission to someone to post) as many up to date pics over the last year or so, that Natti has. Well besides the now retired Sadie Mae. You may not think she looks good in these pics but why do you feel the need to bash her or send out the negativity when she is doing exactly what every man her wants, representing herself accurately. I don't know about you but I want to know exactly what a girl looks when I am making my decision on who I want to see. Over the past couple years I have had a visits with a couple very sweet girls. They performed well and I did have a good time but when the door opened and we met, they were nothing what I expected, based on the pics they was posting online. My initial reaction was to feel like I had been deceived. Even my favorite RemmyLynn would not post new pics. I took some once and she would occasionally use a couple in her ads. I would always ask if we could take pics. She wouldn't because she was afraid guys would rip her for being fat. She was not fat. I tried telling her she was mis representing herself in her ads. It's a very common thing for girls to post pics of better days. I personally think it's bullshit and bad business. I think any girl that post up to date pics should be appreciated not fed negative comments.

But what the fuck do I know?

BuyingSmiles!

I don't know if this is the correct forum for this, but I didn't know where else to post it.

I have a FB "friend" who, without backup research, is insistent that 97% of prostitutes / escorts / etc are in the business against their will and would escape if they could. She believes that legalizing the sex trade would only put "more women at risk".

I have a long-time friend who has been a sex worker for years. She went ballistic when she saw the original FB post and allowed me to share her comments with the originator of the post. I don't really expect anyone to respond to this here in public, but you could PM me. I promise that the sources of all responses will be 100% confidential and will never be shared with anyone. If you are concerned about responding here, even by PM, you can ask for my monger email and respond there. I am not trying to shame anyone, I am not trying to save anyone, I'm just doing a bit of independent research. I will pass on your comments to my FB friend without censoring them or excluding any.

Without factual sources, her 97% is a number she pulled out of her ass. You can tell her I said so and challenge her to cite a non-right wing source that backs up her numbers.

[QUOTE=KaliMan;2598773]I don't know if this is the correct forum for this, but I didn't know where else to post it.

I have a FB "friend" who, without backup research, is insistent that 97% of prostitutes / escorts / etc are in the business against their will and would escape if they could. She believes that legalizing the sex trade would only put "more women at risk".

I have a long-time friend who has been a sex worker for years. She went ballistic when she saw the original FB post and allowed me to share her comments with the originator of the post. I don't really expect anyone to respond to this here in public, but you could PM me. I promise that the sources of all responses will be 100% confidential and will never be shared with anyone. If you are concerned about responding here, even by PM, you can ask for my monger email and respond there. I am not trying to shame anyone, I am not trying to save anyone, I'm just doing a bit of independent research. I will pass on your comments to my FB friend without censoring them or excluding any.[/QUOTE]

I'm bored, it's been a slow news day and the talent has been weak out there lately so I came up with this list.

Top 10 reasons you might be a White Knight.

10. You get upset when a monger doesn't find your honey bunny hot.

9. You exchange back and forth love chatter with your favorite provider on USASG in front of everyone.

8. You believe her when she says you are the only one who can make her cum.

7. You think she would rather screw you and spend time with you than just take your money without having to do anything.

6. You tell her she is a 10 when she is really a 5. 5.

5. You offer to pick up her cigarettes, cheetos and maxi-pads at the convenience store.

4. You offer to take her out to dinner at Skyline followed by a Reds game.

3. You try to find her a real job.

2. You babysit her kids.

1. You PM the offending monger that insulted her appearance and tell him you are going to kick his ass.