Escort Reports

[QUOTE=Jkbald; 1666416]Well fellow mongers, I completely struck out on this trip to your fine city. I had emailed a well reviewed provider that meets my needs a couple of days ago and she agreed that it would be no problem to meet up this evening. Then when I got here today I could not get her to respond even though she was posting on another site and clearly online. So I tried another well known provider who I have seen before and came up empty. So I started in on a few others and could not get a response. So I am calling it a night and going to sleep unhappy in Indianapolis!

I will try again on the 1st provider I tried on my next trip because she has great reviews! If anyone has any good recommendations for an out of towner it would be greatly appreciated! I travel here every 3 to 4 weeks and would love to find a couple providers that are dependable.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear you got stood up. I think it would be helpful to share who.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;1666435]Sorry to hear you got stood up. I think it would be helpful to share who.[/QUOTE]I have not received any response from her yet (text, pm on another site and email) so I would like to give her a chance to respond with a reason before I bash her. There may be a good reason. Like I said she is a well established well reviewed provider but as we all know "life happens"

[QUOTE=Jkbald;1666416]Well fellow mongers, I completely struck out on this trip to your fine city. I had emailed a well reviewed provider that meets my needs a couple of days ago and she agreed that it would be no problem to meet up this evening. Then when I got here today I could not get her to respond even though she was posting on another site and clearly online. ***[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jkbald;1666442]I have not received any response from her yet (text, pm on another site and email) so I would like to give her a chance to respond with a reason before I bash her. There may be a good reason. Like I said she is a well established well reviewed provider but as we all know "life happens"[/QUOTE]Jk, appointments are tentative when made. The parties need to confirm on the day of the event for the appointment to be firm. For whatever reason this never happened. There is no reviewable event here. You'll hurt only yourself bashing a girl on an unconfirmed appointment. It was good you did not mention her name in either post. Sorry this happened.

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie;1666374]Sucks when I see three ladies on there who I have seen. Ashley is a sweetie. Too bad, she is a hottie as well.[/QUOTE]Too bad you hadn't mentioned her earlier. There were some requests for info about her a while back, but no one with any actual intel posted about it, only that the number came back as being kind of funky. I had my eye on her for a while.

[QUOTE=Dyoung35; 1641114]Hello Gentlemen (and Ladies) ,

I have been out of circulation for a while. But for various reasons found myself scanning the board late last night wishing for some company. I came across Zoey's ad and thought I'd give her a shot. Somewhat to my surprise she responded promptly to my email. She was just chillin at a local bar and grill and invited me up. We shared a few drinks, reminisced about some mutual friends, then headed back to her hotel.

My, my, my, what an enthusiastic little gal she is! Sweet, bubbly and at least from my point of view really enjoys pleasing. Her oral skills are wonderful. Due to certain other restrictions that was all that was available. But that was all that was necessary to leave me with a great big smile!

Thanks Zoey! For topping of my evening! And thanks for the Gumbball Head recommendation. We should definitely share another together sometime soon!

Aka.

Daniel[/QUOTE]I will chime in as well, she is really fun, hot, and the price is so reasonable. I will be seeing her again for sure!

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1666509]Jk, appointments are tentative when made. The parties need to confirm on the day of the event for the appointment to be firm. For whatever reason this never happened. There is no reviewable event here. You'll hurt only yourself bashing a girl on an unconfirmed appointment. It was good you did not mention her name in either post. Sorry this happened.[/QUOTE]Was not planning on naming names, actually I would really like to still see this provider on my next trip. I will try again!

OK so I am surfing aNotheR site and I see Tiffany's profile pop up and she has been around for a long time on BP and elsewhere and her not so great history. So I noticed 34 reviews with a below average rating. HOW does that happen, LMAO? Did the person that saw 33 sub par reviews before him think he had the Midas touch? How many consistently bad reviews does it take before you decide to just move your mouse 1 inch in any direction and find a four+ star gal? Really, someone enlighten me, please.

Wow how lucky I felt when I saw this ad [url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-slim-tall-brunette-leyla-amazing-reviews-22/6998512[/url] On B*kP*e yesterday I had seen this girl a couple of times last year but had lost touch with her. Went yesterday stayed for the hour that turned into an hour and a half but she wasn't watchin and we were having way to much fun to notice the time. I felt totally relaxed and at ease with her She met me at the door in the hottest pantie and bra combo I have seen yet this year and we sat and talked about last year for at least 15 minutes while she undressed me. When the talking was though I dreamed about the best date I have had this year. Seniors can pm me and the rest already know what I'm saying anyway. Fast Spa

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;1666915]OK so I am surfing aNotheR site and I see Tiffany's profile pop up and she has been around for a long time on BP and elsewhere and her not so great history. So I noticed 34 reviews with a below average rating. HOW does that happen, LMAO? Did the person that saw 33 sub par reviews before him think he had the Midas touch? How many consistently bad reviews does it take before you decide to just move your mouse 1 inch in any direction and find a four+ star gal? Really, someone enlighten me, please.[/QUOTE]Maybe they didn't read the reviews.

Maybe they did, the reviews said the pics were fake and they really liked the pics.

Or maybe they just wanted to find out for themselves. I've done that before, never on a reported armed robbery understand, but to find out for myself when I see a bad review or two or more and detect what appears to be a lack of maturity in the reviewers, thinking the reviewers may have contributed to their own demise. I've tested this more than a few times to see for myself and never once have I had a disappointment. But nor has this been a steady diet in hobbyville.

The last time was a particular girl who picked up a string of bad reviewes of the bad-ass or young-ass type of reviewer. I decided to see for myself, she advertised text only and was reported she often did not respond or she would set a date and not respond when the guy got there. All who did see her said her pics were accurate, that and my curiosity was enough for me to test my theory since it was time to test it again anyway and I really was only 5 minutes away, so I texted the girl,"Are you available?" "I'm 5 minutes away" and five minutes later she was opening her door to let me in and I had a good time. There was nothing wrong with this girl. She simply wasn't being treated like a human being and guys were getting what they were giving off.

I've often posted a review says more about the reviewer than it ever says about the girl. I think it every time.

But on 34 bad reviews, IndyG4F, I would pass.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler; 1664907]To be honest, I have always thought, and her postings have done nothing to change my mind, that "Toshia" is and always was supposed to be "Tosha", but she didn't spell it correctly when putting up her profile. She is dumber than a bag of hammers, but she fucks like her life depends on it. (Ironically, someone recently posted on a naughty site that it sort off does, but who knows?) It took everything I could muster to finish when she said, right in mid thrust, that it hurt her "belly" and that she was pretty sure she had a cyst or ovarian cancer. In my mind, I attempted to convince myself that that phrase was Arabic for "your cock is fucking amazing". She seems to have drawn the ire of some of the regular female posters over on the other site. Oh, they try to mask it, but it still comes through as subtle disgust. I guess it's the equivalent of any long time employee who seems to be-or feels to be-displaced by a current flavor of the month, which Tosha definitely is. It has created some debate about whether or not intelligent girls are better in bed, more attractive because of their intellect, etc, etc. I also find it hilarious that, in order to make sure their next appointment goes well, many of the male posters have jumped on the "yeah, I like smart girls better too" bandwagon. I've had great fucks in this hobby by some of the least intelligent people on the planet. I've also had great fucks in this hobby by some that were surely members of MENSA, but for the purposes of looking down and being turned on by my cock being in the mouth of a chick that was sucking me like she had just been bitten by a rattlesnake, and the venom was my sperm, it didn't matter at that moment. The lead up, the conversation, yes of course. The moment of orgasm, not one fucking bit, and I tend to disbelieve anyone could prove themselves to be otherwise. Tosha is not a "courtesan". Tosha is a hooker with an amazing body, a great attitude, and can fuck like a porn star. Take your life into your hands, leave any education beyond 3rd grade in the car, and go bang the hell out of her. She will NOT be an Indy fixture long term.

Just my two cents.[/QUOTE]Had an interesting trip where she double booked me during the day, she made up for it and had some reasonablly good conversation about random stuff. Its not GFE at all, but great body and willing to please.

[QUOTE=Down South;1668532]Had an interesting trip where she double booked me during the day, she made up for it and had some reasonablly good conversation about random stuff. Its not GFE at all, but great body and willing to please.[/QUOTE]Did she try to sell you a watch! LOL!

Had a chance to visit with this young gal recently.

[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/candice-has-a-new-location-19/7342445[/url]

Pics are accurate, BBBJ, FS covered, CIM. She is a GFE and provides very nice time.

Hh $.2 h $$

Stick with the hh, may repeat.

Vanessa NewB has good reviews on aNotheR site, and I badly wanted to see her. Unfortunately I have had the same situation as Shagging Dog TWICE now. Too bad. She's a looker and the reviews say she's sweet. In fact, I'd probably be willing to try again IF I knew for CERTAIN that she would come through. Guarantees like that don't don't happen though, so I probably won't try again.

[QUOTE=Shagging Dog;1665978]I had an appointment set with Vanessa NewB. From aNotheR site last Friday and after she set the firm appointment she didn't take my calls or texts after I was in the area I was instructed to go to. She didn't ask for refs which didn't shock me based on prior reviews; but, it's strange in that I still can't get her to respond. Anybody have an insight? Is she this flaky frequently or maybe she spooked? I see there haven't been any really recent reviews of her so maybe she's been compromised? Just paint me disappointed.[/QUOTE]

Ditto all the talk about Candice. Really nice girl. Would consider the hour because she has a brain and is worth chatting with.

Shannon is also very nice. Soft curvy body, but by no means fat. She comes down about every other week.

If you want details, go ahead and PM me.

As for Toshia, tried to set something up yesterday. We talked on the phone, she asked for references. I sent them via e-mail and called her to confirm. I asked her on her general whereabouts so I could plan the time it takes to get there. She started to answer then abruptly hung up. Mind you, I wasn't asking for exact location, we never discussed services or price. Just a strange experience. May try again or may just avoid cause it sounds like there is some instability there.

[QUOTE=NcGuyOfNr;1668647]Did she try to sell you a watch! LOL![/QUOTE]Holy shit. She did. Kind of strange I thought, but the down at the Y was amazing. Probably will not repeat.

Which ones are accurate? There's one where she looks like Fat Albert with a wig, and her forearms are as big around as some chicks' thighs, and some pics that display a small waist. Were the ones with the small waist taken awhile ago and is the top one, in fact, a recent pic? This is like thumb-tack-face Hollie all over again. Which photos are recent? Please explain.

Thanks,

BFDeal

[QUOTE=Bjee89; 1668866]Had a chance to visit with this young gal recently.

[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/candice-has-a-new-location-19/7342445[/url]

Pics are accurate, BBBJ, FS covered, CIM. She is a GFE and provides very nice time.

Hh $.2 h $$

Stick with the hh, may repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1669445]Which ones are accurate? There's one where she looks like Fat Albert with a wig, and her forearms are as big around as some chicks' thighs, and some pics that display a small waist. Were the ones with the small waist taken awhile ago and is the top one, in fact, a recent pic? This is like thumb-tack-face Hollie all over again. Which photos are recent? Please explain.

Thanks,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]Hey BF you crack me up with Fat Albert reference. At least I know we're probably the same age. I think you'd be very happy with Candice, I was theree times, LOL. PM if you want more info.

I was a bit fascinated by this one so I changed my hobby handle for the day, reached out to her again and made a successful connection. I will post a review on another site.

S. Dog

[QUOTE=Kevrob911;1668975]Vanessa NewB has good reviews on aNotheR site, and I badly wanted to see her. Unfortunately I have had the same situation as Shagging Dog TWICE now. Too bad. She's a looker and the reviews say she's sweet. In fact, I'd probably be willing to try again IF I knew for CERTAIN that she would come through. Guarantees like that don't don't happen though, so I probably won't try again.[/QUOTE]

After reading the many reviews and putting it off for too long I saw Melissa today. I was beat and sore after a 12 hr drive back from 10 days in New Orleans.

I am so glad I saw her. What a great time. Keep her safe and enjoy!

Is Kim from backpage still seeing people? If so, does she have new contact info? I would love to see her!

[QUOTE=Down South;1669312]Holy shit. She did. Kind of strange I thought, but the down at the Y was amazing. Probably will not repeat.[/QUOTE]Whoever buys that watch should own up to it. Be a man. Post it here. LOL!

Guys, sorry but I have a newb question. If it has been answered, I apologize. I have read many pages in this forum and haven't seen it.

When a provider asks for references what exactly does she want? I've only had escorts in Vegas and they didn't need references there. Is a reference a name and number of another provider or a letter from another provider? All the local providers that I've looked at online that I'm interested in, require references. I have none.

Also, if I get with a provider, what's the proper etiquette for asking if I can use them as a reference?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Jcat69; 1674556]Guys, sorry but I have a newb question. If it has been answered, I apologize. I have read many pages in this forum and haven't seen it.

When a provider asks for references what exactly does she want? I've only had escorts in Vegas and they didn't need references there. Is a reference a name and number of another provider or a letter from another provider? All the local providers that I've looked at online that I'm interested in, require references. I have none.

Also, if I get with a provider, what's the proper etiquette for asking if I can use them as a reference?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Jcat,

When the ladies are asking for references, they are asking for the names of others you have seen or there are services which you can register with that a provider can access to prove your legitimacy. The first escort that I saw used a Private Service to ascertain that I wasn't her uncle. I had to pay her $25 more for the first time so that she could pay for the service. I think she called my employer to verify that I was an employee there. A little scary, I know, but it was totally discrete.

So after the first time with the escort that checked on my employment, I always used her as a reference from there on out as she is one of the better known escorts in the Indy area. To use her as a reference, I just asked to use her as a reference. She was fine with it.

Be careful.

AG

[QUOTE=AssGrinder; 1674941]Jcat,

When the ladies are asking for references, they are asking for the names of others you have seen or there are services which you can register with that a provider can access to prove your legitimacy. The first escort that I saw used a Private Service to ascertain that I wasn't her uncle. I had to pay her $25 more for the first time so that she could pay for the service. I think she called my employer to verify that I was an employee there. A little scary, I know, but it was totally discrete.

So after the first time with the escort that checked on my employment, I always used her as a reference from there on out as she is one of the better known escorts in the Indy area. To use her as a reference, I just asked to use her as a reference. She was fine with it.

Be careful.

AG[/QUOTE]Thanks AG. I have scheduled my first indy provider. The little black spinner Bre. Well reviewed on another site. She did asks for refs but was okay with other personal info when I couldn't provide any. Will report back.

Go get her, Tiger!

Good luck! Look forward to your first review.

[QUOTE=Jcat69;1674972]Thanks AG. I have scheduled my first indy provider. The little black spinner Bre. Well reviewed on another site. She did asks for refs but was okay with other personal info when I couldn't provide any. Will report back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shagging Dog; 1670372]I was a bit fascinated by this one so I changed my hobby handle for the day, reached out to her again and made a successful connection. I will post a review on another site.

S. Dog[/QUOTE]VN is always around, always fun, but not always the most reliable, though she is much much better about some of that these days than years past. I am curious, why would you not post about it here and only somewhere else. Personally I don't think she needs much notoriety, she has a nice little niche carved out, but as a matter of rule, you come here for info and help and and then post your subsequent findings elsewhere, just seems to be a little, I don't know, ungrateful might be the word, to the group here.

[QUOTE=Redmann6999;1672161]Is Kim from backpage still seeing people? If so, does she have new contact info? I would love to see her![/QUOTE]She is retired for now I hear.

I know calling is probably always best, but sometimes an email is the best I can do. Do Indy providers repsond much to emails? At all?

Also, question for the local Indy Mongers. Who would be the best provider to see and talk to about a dream about a Mediterranean vacation, including a trip to Greece or around the Rim of Italy?

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie;1660012]Melissa can take it all. She advertises on here. I am a bigger dude. 6'7, 280, she takes everything I got[/QUOTE]Disagree. I'm only about 7" and I got "the teeth" throughout the whole process.

She's enthusiastic but if you're hung a bit bigger she (as with most providers I've seen) has some trouble with it.

Whoa! Bre was very fun! She had a very cozy incall on the east side. She was prompt in returning my texts and was able to meet me on time. She has a perfect spinner body. From my brief conversations with her she seems very articulate and intelligent. Will repeat. I had a dream about DATY, BBBJ, Mish, doggy.

[QUOTE=NeedtNowIndy; 1675119]Disagree. I'm only about 7" and I got "the teeth" throughout the whole process.

She's enthusiastic but if you're hung a bit bigger she (as with most providers I've seen) has some trouble with it.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't usually carry around a measuring stick, but I reached double digits in 11th grade. My high school girlfriends were not happy getting the pipe laid to them by an over enthusiastic 17 year old hanging 10". But, I have will say that Melissa took what I had and never gave anything back, I was impressed!

I feel a little weird right now

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie; 1675453]Well, I don't usually carry around a measuring stick, but I reached double digits in 11th grade. My high school girlfriends were not happy getting the pipe laid to them by an over enthusiastic 17 year old hanging 10". But, I have will say that Melissa took what I had and never gave anything back, I was impressed!

I feel a little weird right now[/QUOTE]Oh, she took it all. I just ended up a little worse for wear. Didn't stop me from going back!

Never wanting to seem ungrateful; let me say that the dream I had about a session was good but not awesome. In the dream her shape and style were very very nice. Reminded me of a girl from college that I could never get out of my dreams! As my VN dream progressed I felt like I was with my old girlfriend until VN did an unexpected doggie imitation that was really nice. I guess this dream had a pet theme though as all through the dream I was distracted by strong cat box type smells. I may repeat just because its a very convenient stop half way between work and home.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1675083]VN is always around, always fun, but not always the most reliable, though she is much much better about some of that these days than years past. I am curious, why would you not post about it here and only somewhere else. Personally I don't think she needs much notoriety, she has a nice little niche carved out, but as a matter of rule, you come here for info and help and and then post your subsequent findings elsewhere, just seems to be a little, I don't know, ungrateful might be the word, to the group here.[/QUOTE]

I met with Megan who advertises on aNotheR site. She's a tiny little spinner who is really into providing. I saw her at 8AM last Friday in her cozy little incall. We had fun for an hour before we BOTH went to our regular jobs.

The pics in her ad are 6+ years old (I'm not being critical, the date is in the photos). She's not quite the perky little hottie in the ad, but close enough.

Nice tight little ass and pussy, clean and fresh. She loves the DATY. I think she ground on my face for 20-30 minutes!

Well worth your time if you are into really petite ladies, or like'm to talk dirty or be verbal. She's actually quite a character and fun to be with.

The ad says she's 33, which I doubt- but I didn't care, she was a helluva lot of fun.

[QUOTE=Kevrob911; 1677188]I met with Megan who advertises on aNotheR site. She's a tiny little spinner who is really into providing. I saw her at 8AM last Friday in her cozy little incall. We had fun for an hour before we BOTH went to our regular jobs.

The pics in her ad are 6+ years old (I'm not being critical, the date is in the photos). She's not quite the perky little hottie in the ad, but close enough.

Nice tight little ass and pussy, clean and fresh. She loves the DATY. I think she ground on my face for 20-30 minutes!

Well worth your time if you are into really petite ladies, or like'm to talk dirty or be verbal. She's actually quite a character and fun to be with.

The ad says she's 33, which I doubt- but I didn't care, she was a helluva lot of fun.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen "Megan" in over a year, but 6 years ago she had implants. And then had them improved to even bigger, before having them removed altogether just over a year ago. The photo w / the date COULD be that old, but I don't even think it is. Probably the wrong date set on the camera. But the others are definitely less than a year old, no question.

TA2

[QUOTE=Shagging Dog;1676579]Never wanting to seem ungrateful; let me say that the dream I had about a session was good but not awesome. In the dream her shape and style were very very nice. Reminded me of a girl from college that I could never get out of my dreams! As my VN dream progressed I felt like I was with my old girlfriend until VN did an unexpected doggie imitation that was really nice. I guess this dream had a pet theme though as all through the dream I was distracted by strong cat box type smells. I may repeat just because its a very convenient stop half way between work and home.[/QUOTE]One of her reviews on aNotheR site confirms that she used to go by Navaeh, which I also thought when seeing her photos. I've never met her under either name, but there's a reason for that. Weren't there accusations of her robbing a guy or two a year or so ago under the old name? Were those accusations disproven? I'm only pointing this out, because character rarely changes dramatically over time and if it happened in the past, it's likely to happen again if the same circumstances and motivation resurface for her.

TA2

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2; 1677558]One of her reviews on aNotheR site confirms that she used to go by Navaeh, which I also thought when seeing her photos. I've never met her under either name, but there's a reason for that. Weren't there accusations of her robbing a guy or two a year or so ago under the old name? Were those accusations disproven? I'm only pointing this out, because character rarely changes dramatically over time and if it happened in the past, it's likely to happen again if the same circumstances and motivation resurface for her.

TA2[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm new here, but:

I saw VN back in the Nevaeh days, and, just sayin', I had no issues at all, and had a very nice time with her. True, she shares a LOT of personal info, and the incall coulda been a lot better kept up, but I didn't have anything close to the issues others had reported. But, YMMV as with anything.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2; 1677558]One of her reviews on aNotheR site confirms that she used to go by Navaeh, which I also thought when seeing her photos. I've never met her under either name, but there's a reason for that. Weren't there accusations of her robbing a guy or two a year or so ago under the old name? Were those accusations disproven? I'm only pointing this out, because character rarely changes dramatically over time and if it happened in the past, it's likely to happen again if the same circumstances and motivation resurface for her.

TA2[/QUOTE]She has been around for a while. I believe she was a Babe stripper back in the old T-Birdy days. It might have been shortly after he retired. I know he tried to take her for a ride, not sure of the out-cum. I used to hang out with an old friend, until he lost his job and can't afford to buy me beer anymore, who knew her very well. If my memory serves me correctly, and at my age that is a blessing, I think she was the one who was robbed by a either a GF or GF's BF or a GF's BF's sister or cousin, oh well, someone. It became a little complicated at times to know who was coming or going at her hacienda. I hear she is a great time and I always liked her long hair, lean body and moles. I never was able to connect with her and wouldn't mind trying but her rates have gone up since I first knew her. I truly believe she is pretty safe and worth the chance of a ride.

FF.

PS. In need of some serious freckles if anyone finds some.

I was talking to a good provider friend of mine not long ago and the subject of GFE and PSE came up. It seems that many hobbyists and providers all have a different opinion of what constitutes a GFE. Confusion is even greater when it comes to PSE. I have pondered over this subject and discussed it with other friends while drinking beer and looking at titties. This has been the consensus so far.

GFE:

Must have items to be a true GFE.

1. LFK at the beginning moving into some hot and heavy DFK during the experience.

2. BBBJ with eye contact, lot's of sensual playing with shaft and boys.

3. DATY, this is a big turn on for the hobbyist and hopefully for the provider as well.

4. Exploratory kissing. Including breasts and nipples. Anywhere else is very good.

5. Russian.

6. Cuddling if wanted.

7. Not a clock watcher, but not giving away time for free.

8. Conversation. Could be good or bad.

9. Mulitple positions. Mish, doggie, CG, RCG, anything that is pleasurable.

10. MSOG. Girl friends like sex, so if time allows they want more than once.

11. CID. Come in deep, but with a cover, notice number 11.

12. Use of a cover. Remember a real girlfriend does not want to get pregnant and until you both get tested she wants to be safe about your past partners.

Top Shelve GFE. These are top of the line GFE services but, not always done and not necessary to be labled GFE.

1. DFK during orgasm. God this is sooooooo hot.

2. CIM. Now I think this is a must but others disagree and have said they had GF's that didn't. (maybe thats why they were just a GF). CIM could be with or without swallow, spit, drool, or any other method of CIM. I concede to the others opinions and put it here.

3. COB. Cum on breasts / body. Hot and some providers like this for the visual affects but some GF don't so thats why it went here.

4. Toys. Use of a toy (s). Iv'e had GF that didn't own a toy.

PSE:

Must have items to be a true PSE.

1. All of the GFE items above. However, some PSE providers will not DFK. I know of several porn stars that will do anything but they will not DFK.

2. Greek.

3. COA. Cum On Anywhere; face, mouth, hair, feet, thighs, breasts, hands etc.

4. BBBJCIMWS.

5. Dirty talking (Coprolalia) , noisy (even if faked).

6. Lots of toys.

7. Rimming.

8. Use of a cover. Once again Porn Stars are tested on a regular basis. Many use covers all the time except for special partners. If a providers says they are PSE they still mean the use of a cover is necessay.

A Top Shelf PSE will be all of the above and introduce fetishes such as Retifism, Urolagnia, Doraphilia, and so many more. Other top shelf items are:

1. DP with toy or other friend.

2. Snowballing. I actually think this should be in the GFE catagory but again I conceded to other's opinions. The only reason it's not in a normal PSE is because some don't DFK.

3. Water sports. Urolagnia.

5. Bondage or S&M. I think this is an entire category in itself but some label it PSE.

6. Almost anything anal. ATM, brown shower, etc.

A Top shelf PSE can mean almost anything, and many items can fall into other catagories. But a provider advertising PSE still means they will only see clients who are willing to use a cover during FS. Most Porn stars that escort use a cover. Only on rare occasions do they allow BBFS.

Just some opinions of hobby friends,

FF.

PS. This was discussed in a titty bar with a freckled stripper on my lap.

Gee, can I call you Dr. FF? I wou put mem each time when see GFE or PSE girl.

[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1678875]I was talking to a good provider friend of mine not long ago and the subject of GFE and PSE came up. It seems that many hobbyists and providers all have a different opinion of what constitutes a GFE. Confusion is even greater when it comes to PSE. I have pondered over this subject and discussed it with other friends while drinking beer and looking at titties. This has been the consensus so far.

GFE:

Must have items to be a true GFE.

1. LFK at the beginning moving into some hot and heavy DFK during the experience.

2. BBBJ with eye contact, lot's of sensual playing with shaft and boys.

3. DATY, this is a big turn on for the hobbyist and hopefully for the provider as well.

4. Exploratory kissing. Including breasts and nipples. Anywhere else is very good.

5. Russian.

6. Cuddling if wanted.

7. Not a clock watcher, but not giving away time for free.

8. Conversation. Could be good or bad.

9. Mulitple positions. Mish, doggie, CG, RCG, anything that is pleasurable.

10. MSOG. Girl friends like sex, so if time allows they want more than once.

11. CID. Come in deep, but with a cover, notice number 11.

12. Use of a cover. Remember a real girlfriend does not want to get pregnant and until you both get tested she wants to be safe about your past partners.

Top Shelve GFE. These are top of the line GFE services but, not always done and not necessary to be labled GFE.

1. DFK during orgasm. God this is sooooooo hot.

2. CIM. Now I think this is a must but others disagree and have said they had GF's that didn't. (maybe thats why they were just a GF). CIM could be with or without swallow, spit, drool, or any other method of CIM. I concede to the others opinions and put it here.

3. COB. Cum on breasts / body. Hot and some providers like this for the visual affects but some GF don't so thats why it went here.

4. Toys. Use of a toy (s). Iv'e had GF that didn't own a toy.

PSE:

Must have items to be a true PSE.

1. All of the GFE items above. However, some PSE providers will not DFK. I know of several porn stars that will do anything but they will not DFK.

2. Greek.

3. COA. Cum On Anywhere; face, mouth, hair, feet, thighs, breasts, hands etc.

4. BBBJCIMWS.

5. Dirty talking (Coprolalia) , noisy (even if faked).

6. Lots of toys.

7. Rimming.

8. Use of a cover. Once again Porn Stars are tested on a regular basis. Many use covers all the time except for special partners. If a providers says they are PSE they still mean the use of a cover is necessay.

A Top Shelf PSE will be all of the above and introduce fetishes such as Retifism, Urolagnia, Doraphilia, and so many more. Other top shelf items are:

1. DP with toy or other friend.

2. Snowballing. I actually think this should be in the GFE catagory but again I conceded to other's opinions. The only reason it's not in a normal PSE is because some don't DFK.

3. Water sports. Urolagnia.

5. Bondage or S&M. I think this is an entire category in itself but some label it PSE.

6. Almost anything anal. ATM, brown shower, etc.

A Top shelf PSE can mean almost anything, and many items can fall into other catagories. But a provider advertising PSE still means they will only see clients who are willing to use a cover during FS. Most Porn stars that escort use a cover. Only on rare occasions do they allow BBFS.

Just some opinions of hobby friends,

FF.

PS. This was discussed in a titty bar with a freckled stripper on my lap.[/QUOTE]