Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5951848]I went diamond the last couple of months after some pretty abysmal premium months. Hate paying the site that much but is everyone else doing the same? Finally getting the same / normal level of responses I've experienced over the years with the quality I desire and calendar booked a few weeks out again. Use to be able to do one premium month and have numbers to run with for weeks. Those days seem long gone as the ones I desire are swooped up.[/QUOTE]Things on SA had picked up lately, after a couple of relative dry months. This month is crazy, have tons of chicks lined up.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5943436]Because if she listed Battle Ground, WA no one would pay attention to her. I've messaged 3 or 4 and found that they are nowhere near Seattle, but they say Seattle, because we're the biggest city. Like I'm driving 4 hours to Lake Chelan to meet someone.[/QUOTE]They'll also list cities like Bellevue because they think the SDs in certain cities are wealthier and more likely to offer larger allowances.

So I stopped using SA like 2 years ago. I met a girl from there and we have been friends and fucking for free for 2 years although life has gotten in way recently. Anyway this Ash girl texts me out of clear blue after not texting for two years. We've been texting for a few weeks now and when I call her to finally just do a meet up for coffee or something her idea she then breaks it to me she charges 200 for a meet and greet. Are these girls crazy! WTF I'm not giving anyone 200 just for a quick meet. Insane.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5952525]Did you get to fuck her?[/QUOTE]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.

[QUOTE=SeattleRr;5952988]So I stopped using SA like 2 years ago. I met a girl from there and we have been friends and fucking for free for 2 years although life has gotten in way recently. Anyway this Ash girl texts me out of clear blue after not texting for two years. We've been texting for a few weeks now and when I call her to finally just do a meet up for coffee or something her idea she then breaks it to me she charges 200 for a meet and greet. Are these girls crazy! WTF I'm not giving anyone 200 just for a quick meet. Insane.[/QUOTE]Just want to quickly say that an escort charges for a service. A sugar baby doesn't. This Ash person isn't a SB, she's just an escort.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5953249]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.[/QUOTE]I met her for dinner. She was fine, but we didn't hook up after dinner and just had a nice time together and parted. After we parted, she went nuts on me over text saying that I was a scammer because I didn't pay her for her time at the dinner etc. Despite the poor behavior on her part, I actually tried to be sympathetic and set up a PPM hookup but she wasn't having it and was just all "Why should I trust you after you just scammed me?" It was too weird and there are just too many woman on that site, so I let it go.

The thing is, while I don't know what she did to you, I can sort of imagine something dramatic happening with her so your cryptic post doesn't surprise me.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5953249]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.[/QUOTE]A lot of women, civilian or pro, think they can get away with ANYTHING in public.

Long ago I watched a cute young thing go full 5150 at Pagliacci's Pizza on the Ave over her order not having olives on it.

I dated a girl who had a stage four public meltdown at a nice restaurant when they didn't put the ice in her sparkling water properly.

I also saw a pretty California girl throw a full stein of beer at a waitress at the Oar House in Santa Monica. Fortunately for everybody she missed by about four feet.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5953249]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying your initial post was a bit cryptic and ambiguous to me.

Thanks for the report. I exchanged texts with her. She was at first very friendly, but I was a bit hesitant because idk something did not feel completely right, then she got a bit upset on our last message. I always wondered if I fucked up a good opportunity, but it seems I dodged a bullet.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5951856]Warning. Crazy chick. Sweet_Girl.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc3a4b5b-448b-4237-a885-c336bfe461ee[/URL]

Will say I had the best night of my life after meeting this chick as every other chick at the bar wanted to know more. Pretty sure that wasn't Sweet_Girl's intention but it was one of the best nights of my life. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Paradigum;5953249]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DelToro;5953790]Thanks for clarifying your initial post was a bit cryptic and ambiguous to me.

Thanks for the report. I exchanged texts with her. She was at first very friendly, but I was a bit hesitant because idk something did not feel completely right, then she got a bit upset on our last message. I always wondered if I fucked up a good opportunity, but it seems I dodged a bullet.[/QUOTE]I have not seen her, but chatted with her for a while. You are correct, she is bat shit crazy. Better to stay away.

Any info on these? I'm out of town for work and they all seem ready to go for ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6fbddeb5-b0b1-454f-b05b-b41a42157777[/URL]

Says just come over. We'll get acquainted and head to the bedroom. Just give me a gift when you leave.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcac179d-9753-4baf-ba6b-32b041b661a6[/URL]

Very private and discrete. Says contact when I'm ready to come over.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477[/URL]

Seems very friendly. Says to come to her place and spend the night and take her to breakfast.

She is a total cumdumpster.

She will lick your ass.

Not much to look at.

120 will get all holes raw.

I have seen her 4 x now.

Here is her *.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/bananananabrat[/URL]

Here is her fetlife.

[URL]https://fetlife.com/users/9751850[/URL]

I am a dirtyfuk!

[QUOTE=DirtyFuk;5954434]She is a total cumdumpster.

She will lick your ass.

Not much to look at.

120 will get all holes raw.

I have seen her 4 x now.

Here is her *.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/bananananabrat[/URL]

Here is her fetlife.

[URL]https://fetlife.com/users/9751850[/URL]

I am a dirtyfuk![/QUOTE]Dude.

I think I just threw up in my mouth.

I can hear her breathing from here.

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5953249]To repeat. That was a WARNING. She is CRAZY AS FUCK! Not a crazy fuck. I'd be amazed if she ever showed her face in the same public vicinity after the shit she pulled in public.[/QUOTE]I got to know, what happened?

I met her and had a perfectly pleasantly time.

[QUOTE=Tippover11;5954264][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477[/URL]

Seems very friendly. Says to come to her place and spend the night and take her to breakfast.[/QUOTE]Are you sure she wants to spend the night with you? She seems to me to be a scammer. She was definitely friendly on text, but asked for $300 for a meet and greet breakfast in Fife, and she won't allow touching. I never pay for a meet and greet (and neither do I have sex on a meet and greet), so I told her I am not interested in paying or touching on the first meeting. It has happened to other posters here as well (look for 2 or 3 pages back).

[QUOTE=SeasonedDaddy;5954770]Are you sure she wants to spend the night with you? She seems to me to be a scammer. She was definitely friendly on text, but asked for $300 for a meet and greet breakfast in Fife, and she won't allow touching. I never pay for a meet and greet (and neither do I have sex on a meet and greet), so I told her I am not interested in paying or touching on the first meeting. It has happened to other posters here as well (look for 2 or 3 pages back).[/QUOTE]That's right!! I thought she was familiar here. Thanks for the info. But. Yes. She wanted to go to dinner, spend the night and go to breakfast. Changing her tactics maybe? Dunno.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5953819]I have not seen her, but chatted with her for a while. You are correct, she is bat shit crazy. Better to stay away.[/QUOTE]God I love this site. You guys just helped me dodge a bullet. She just hit me up ". You seem like a possible hit for me".

Next!

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5943858]I was going to leave the post alone, but I will say that the Battle Ground part makes her profile come off as more real, not less as no one is eager to claim that they're in Battle Ground. That said, that doesn't mean that she's not a scammer. There are a good number of women out there who hoping that they can just finesse cash here and there off of guys without ever meeting or providing anything other than maybe being "arm candy" or whatever else they were told was possible on Tik Tok.

And to be honest, that actually doesn't offend me. If she's able to find guys who will willingly send her $100 here and there because they believe her sob story, then good for her. The same goes for the women with GPS -- if $800 is the minimum that they'd need in order to be ok with an arrangement, then that's their number. I'm just not that guy.[/QUOTE]I drive monthly through Battle Ground to visit family. I'll start up a conversation, report back. Probably scam, but hey. Perhaps a surprise.

[QUOTE=Tippover11;5954264]Any info on these? I'm out of town for work and they all seem ready to go for ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6fbddeb5-b0b1-454f-b05b-b41a42157777[/URL]

Says just come over. We'll get acquainted and head to the bedroom. Just give me a gift when you leave.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bcac179d-9753-4baf-ba6b-32b041b661a6[/URL]

Very private and discrete. Says contact when I'm ready to come over.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477[/URL]

Seems very friendly. Says to come to her place and spend the night and take her to breakfast.[/QUOTE]Re: the 1st one 'Velababyy' been msg her, seems nice / real. Never connected for meet and greet yet due to scheduling conflicts and other priorities. If you do meet, please share. Or DM me.

[QUOTE=Tippover11;5954831]That's right!! I thought she was familiar here. Thanks for the info. But. Yes. She wanted to go to dinner, spend the night and go to breakfast. Changing her tactics maybe? Dunno.[/QUOTE]She's still pushing the $300 m&g with me, and I'd like to add I'm younger and better looking than a lot of you chumps (just messing) how did your interactions go with her, because I'd love to get to your offer: b.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e29a900d-e337-4000-9e62-ef1455d930a8[/URL]

She's pretty far north for most of you fellows but is dope. Messaged me last night, several days after I reached out. She was lonely and looking for company. She is thicker than her pictures but only slightly maybe 20-30 lbs heavier kind of like a small pawg. She said Birth control messed her up. Got a hotel room for roughly 2 hrs hours and filled her up repeatedly and had to grab her plan B. Since everyone is touchy over $ offered pm to find out.

[QUOTE=FriendlyFun;5958165]I drive monthly through Battle Ground to visit family. I'll start up a conversation, report back. Probably scam, but hey. Perhaps a surprise.[/QUOTE]The Battle Ground girl has a recent scam report down here in the Portland area. A guy paid her something upfront for a "baby sitter" and then rented a room. You know how this story ends.

[QUOTE=Fudgsicle;5958911][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e29a900d-e337-4000-9e62-ef1455d930a8[/URL]

She's pretty far north for most of you fellows but is dope. Messaged me last night, several days after I reached out. She was lonely and looking for company. She is thicker than her pictures but only slightly maybe 20-30 lbs heavier kind of like a small pawg. She said Birth control messed her up. Got a hotel room for roughly 2 hrs hours and filled her up repeatedly and had to grab her plan B. Since everyone is touchy over $ offered pm to find out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, although I've a question on getting hotels. What are the best sites to book hourly hotels as pretty sure I haven't used any of that before just a regular ones which tend to be more $$. Are there any cheaper options that you can recommend?

Much appreciated!

Just SBs talking about the forum.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/uqaihk/what_is_this_seeking_arrangements_blog_everyone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5959737]Just SBs talking about the forum.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/uqaihk/what_is_this_seeking_arrangements_blog_everyone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share[/URL][/QUOTE]I laughed because they are butt hurt that we are talking about them like pieces of meat. They then go on to talk about us like we are nothing but a walking wallet whose only existence is to fulfill their need to shop.

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5959737]Just SBs talking about the forum.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/uqaihk/what_is_this_seeking_arrangements_blog_everyone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share[/URL][/QUOTE]This kind of oddly resonates with some of my pet peeves about the sugar world. In all honesty I think many of the players, both boys and girls, have wildly unrealistic expectations and understandings of what it takes to play in that world.

If you are a girl who expects some dude to give her a $10 k / month allowance, you have to start of by acknowledging that there aren't many guys who have that much money to throw around (and even the tech bros who work for Google and Amazon in Seattle that would probably represent more than half of their take home) and there is going to be competition. A lot of competition. Being seriously hot and sexy and having great blowjob skills probably (probably) gets you in the door, but if you can't pass for class you really have zero chance. So you ought to at least be able to navigate the lobby of a Four Seasons or St. Regis without looking like a hick from the sticks, and ought to be able to read a wine list and order an appropriate wine for your meal (e. G. Don't order a dessert wine with your steak). If you can't meet those minimum standards then GTFO and maybe come back when you can. Also, if I am paying $10 k per month it is not a job training program or charity, so you need to understand that it is your job to be there for me when I have the time. People who have that much money to throw around have a lot of demands on their time and extremely busy schedules, and you have to realize that you aren't going to be the #1 priority and maybe not in the top five.

To be blunt, I have been on sugar sites for almost twenty years and I've never met a girl or even talked to a girl on those sites who was up to those standards, and if girls are screening guys by checking out their LinkedIn (and I have no problem with that) I want to make sure that girl I'm paying $10 k per month can eat pie with a fork properly. As a rich dude I run with other rich people where personal connections and reputation count for a lot, and if you mess up and make me look bad you are out on the street. Life is like that.

If you don't get the reference to pie with a fork you don't fucking get it.

On the other side of it, I think the sugar world is best for the at least modestly well to do, and if you don't at least own your own house and don't have a pretty fat bank account and don't have a real stock portfolio you probably don't qualify. Work hard and buy cheap pussy and you will be welcome when you do. That may make me an asshole but that's the way I see it.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5960070]This kind of oddly resonates with some of my pet peeves about the sugar world. In all honesty I think many of the players, both boys and girls, have wildly unrealistic expectations and understandings of what it takes to play in that world.

If you are a girl who expects some dude to give her a $10 k / month allowance, you have to start of by acknowledging that there aren't many guys who have that much money to throw around (and even the tech bros who work for Google and Amazon in Seattle that would probably represent more than half of their take home) and there is going to be competition. A lot of competition. Being seriously hot and sexy and having great blowjob skills probably (probably) gets you in the door, but if you can't pass for class you really have zero chance. So you ought to at least be able to navigate the lobby of a Four Seasons or St. Regis without looking like a hick from the sticks, and ought to be able to read a wine list and order an appropriate wine for your meal (e. G. Don't order a dessert wine with your steak). If you can't meet those minimum standards then GTFO and maybe come back when you can. Also, if I am paying $10 k per month it is not a job training program or charity, so you need to understand that it is your job to be there for me when I have the time. People who have that much money to throw around have a lot of demands on their time and extremely busy schedules, and you have to realize that you aren't going to be the #1 priority and maybe not in the top five.

To be blunt, I have been on sugar sites for almost twenty years and I've never met a girl or even talked to a girl on those sites who was up to those standards, and if girls are screening guys by checking out their LinkedIn (and I have no problem with that) I want to make sure that girl I'm paying $10 k per month can eat pie with a fork properly. As a rich dude I run with other rich people where personal connections and reputation count for a lot, and if you mess up and make me look bad you are out on the street. Life is like that.

If you don't get the reference to pie with a fork you don't fucking get it.

On the other side of it, I think the sugar world is best for the at least modestly well to do, and if you don't at least own your own house and don't have a pretty fat bank account and don't have a real stock portfolio you probably don't qualify. Work hard and buy cheap pussy and you will be welcome when you do. That may make me an asshole but that's the way I see it.[/QUOTE]I think I've met one person in the 4-5 years that I've been on SA in which I was like. "Woah! This woman has her shit together. " The rest have realistically been people that I would have had no time or issuing getting a date with 20-30 years ago. Quite a few were people that I would never have wanted to date if they were giving out pussy for free.

[QUOTE=Tippover11;5954264]Any info on these? I'm out of town for work and they all seem ready to go for ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6fbddeb5-b0b1-454f-b05b-b41a42157777[/URL]

Says just come over. We'll get acquainted and head to the bedroom. Just give me a gift when you leave.

.[/QUOTE]Had a coffee date with her. The entire time I was thinking "this is a dude". Probably not, but still gave me that vibe. Wouldn't shut up, photographs very well. In person. She photographs well.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5960134]I think I've met one person in the 4-5 years that I've been on SA in which I was like. "Woah! This woman has her shit together. " The rest have realistically been people that I would have had no time or issuing getting a date with 20-30 years ago. Quite a few were people that I would never have wanted to date if they were giving out pussy for free.[/QUOTE]Actually the only two ladies who I ever met who qualified in the "pie with a fork" sense I didn't even meet on a website. One I met in the first-class lounge at Singapore Changi Airport and the other I met at an event in Seattle.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5960070]

If you don't get the reference to pie with a fork you don't fucking get it.

On the other side of it, I think the sugar world is best for the at least modestly well to do, and if you don't at least own your own house and don't have a pretty fat bank account and don't have a real stock portfolio you probably don't qualify. Work hard and buy cheap pussy and you will be welcome when you do. That may make me an asshole but that's the way I see it.[/QUOTE]I think this is solid advice. I know everyone wants to bang hot chicks for cheap, but I personally think if you can't wire or write a check for $100 K on a whim, then you shouldn't be messing around in the bowl (in the US at least). I'm sure that makes me an asshole too.

[QUOTE=RadialSea;5959560]Thanks for the info, although I've a question on getting hotels. What are the best sites to book hourly hotels as pretty sure I haven't used any of that before just a regular ones which tend to be more $$. Are there any cheaper options that you can recommend?

Much appreciated![/QUOTE]To be honest with you it's all about creating a relationship with the night shift attendee or whoever is the attendant atm. Most are greedy and will hook up rooms for straight cash. Creating a relationship with these attendants is hard because it's trial and error. Couple tips are:

- Keep a cap of max $50-60 again sometimes these attendants get greedy.

- Along with cash give the attendants some goodies, a 6 pack or some bud or whatever there fancy is along as it's relatively cheap.

- Don't wreck rooms and try to leave everything as tidy as you found it.

Once they see have established that your just there to fuck and not nefarious activities, 99% of the time they will gladly let you do it again, thus creating your relationship.

Be prepared for a fair bit of rejection, this very trial and error. After a couple rejections you grow some thick skin.

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5959737]Just SBs talking about the forum.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/uqaihk/what_is_this_seeking_arrangements_blog_everyone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share[/URL][/QUOTE]First. This is an excellent find. I was 100% certain there were blogs / sites women were using to share information. This definitely seems like one of them. After reading / scanning through it though, it completely validated my thoughts on the topic of SA and how most of these women are approaching it. They treat us like walking ATMS, that are generous, mature (ignore all the stupid shit they do) but that is a wrong strategy and may work for a few SBs, but not as a general rule. Good read.

Under a thread titled "Expectations. Do Not Allow the Cheap Johns Masquerading as "SDs" to Exploit You":

[QUOTE]
If you are exclusive (or, even if you are not), IMO, then a genuine SD/ sponsor should have you on an allowance (a very high one--where he gifts your allowance whether he sees you four times a month, or cannot see you that month at all -- the allowance is something you can depend on and is consistent), plus covering your living expenses (rent, mortgage), credit card(s) for groceries, incidentals, clothing/ shopping, a car, pay for your vacations (with friends, family or by yourself), and eventually investments of some type like real estate...or, assisting you in starting you business, or actual career contacts.
[/QUOTE]Again, with expectations like that the number of appropriate marks are extremely small. So she will have a lot of competition. Not everyone can be a movie star.

Something everyone misses and apparently doesn't give a fuck about is the tax implications of that kind of shit. You can't move that quantity of money around without a lot of people noticing. And you can be sure that eventually the IRS (or your local equivalent) will notice someday. With gift taxes and penalties that $10 k / month nut to your girl might end up costing you $15 k or 20 k. So unless you have a family office and can put the girl on the payroll as a PA or some such you can't really play in her league, or at least the league she thinks she is playing in.

Link for the above thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/otzidi/expectationsdo_not_allow_the_cheap_johns/

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5961086]Under a thread titled "Expectations. Do Not Allow the Cheap Johns Masquerading as "SDs" to Exploit You":

Again, with expectations like that the number of appropriate marks are extremely small. So she will have a lot of competition. Not everyone can be a movie star.

Something everyone misses and apparently doesn't give a fuck about is the tax implications of that kind of shit. You can't move that quantity of money around without a lot of people noticing. And you can be sure that eventually the IRS (or your local equivalent) will notice someday. With gift taxes and penalties that $10 k / month nut to your girl might end up costing you $15 k or 20 k. So unless you have a family office and can put the girl on the payroll as a PA or some such you can't really play in her league, or at least the league she thinks she is playing in.[/QUOTE]I did have a membership but it became a hassle, so I get messages all the time, but I never respond. I get access to pics. Since most women have low self esteem I bet I have ruined a few. Some try messaging over and over. Its kind of nice having the upper hand for once LOL.

In the last day we've gone from "you need to be able to drop $100 k without blinking" to be successful to "I'm just in it for the free pics", LOL!

The wonderful thing about playing in the bowl is there is fun to be had and pleasure found at many price points. The whole "you need to be x rich to be a sugar daddy" is the kind of gate keeping the sugar babies on Reddit do. I mean, it's going to be a struggle if you're straight broke but if you can scrape a few hundred a month you can play part time. Me, I keep track and spent about $17 K last year on sugar dating expenses. Worked out to be an intimate date every other week. That's PPM, hotels, meals, gifts, membership fees, etc. Most of those dates were with very attractive women 15-20 years younger than me. I had a lucky run. Anyway, it wasn't exactly cheap but you don't need to be Bezos or even a low level executive to make some good memories.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5960933]First. This is an excellent find. I was 100% certain there were blogs / sites women were using to share information. This definitely seems like one of them. After reading / scanning through it though, it completely validated my thoughts on the topic of SA and how most of these women are approaching it. They treat us like walking ATMS, that are generous, mature (ignore all the stupid shit they do) but that is a wrong strategy and may work for a few SBs, but not as a general rule. Good read.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5961086]Under a thread titled "Expectations. Do Not Allow the Cheap Johns Masquerading as "SDs" to Exploit You":

Again, with expectations like that the number of appropriate marks are extremely small. So she will have a lot of competition. Not everyone can be a movie star.

Something everyone misses and apparently doesn't give a fuck about is the tax implications of that kind of shit. You can't move that quantity of money around without a lot of people noticing. And you can be sure that eventually the IRS (or your local equivalent) will notice someday. With gift taxes and penalties that $10 k / month nut to your girl might end up costing you $15 k or 20 k. So unless you have a family office and can put the girl on the payroll as a PA or some such you can't really play in her league, or at least the league she thinks she is playing in.

Link for the above thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/otzidi/expectationsdo_not_allow_the_cheap_johns/[/QUOTE]While I'm not really interested or sympathetic to the plight of the sugarbaby, I can sort of see the point. The guys are just as bad at ripping the girls off as vice-versa. Meaning the sugardaddies aren't really, and the sugarbabies aren't either. If you work a PPM, then it's a straight hooker arrangement.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5961086]Under a thread titled "Expectations. Do Not Allow the Cheap Johns Masquerading as "SDs" to Exploit You":

Again, with expectations like that the number of appropriate marks are extremely small. So she will have a lot of competition. Not everyone can be a movie star.

Something everyone misses and apparently doesn't give a fuck about is the tax implications of that kind of shit. You can't move that quantity of money around without a lot of people noticing. And you can be sure that eventually the IRS (or your local equivalent) will notice someday. With gift taxes and penalties that $10 k / month nut to your girl might end up costing you $15 k or 20 k. So unless you have a family office and can put the girl on the payroll as a PA or some such you can't really play in her league, or at least the league she thinks she is playing in.

Link for the above thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/otzidi/expectationsdo_not_allow_the_cheap_johns/[/QUOTE]I actually go through this with my SB clients. They are receiving gifts. Gifts are not taxable. For the SD, in 2022 the lifetime gift exclusion is 12.06 million. This means you can give away 12.06 million in gifts during your lifetime and not pay gift tax. Once you bypass the annual exclusion ($16 K for 2022). Then you simply have to report the excess to the IRS and deduct it from the 12.06 million that you are allowed to give in your lifetime.

I do want to say this, I have one SB client whose SD gives her $100K year. A couple of years ago, she told him that she wanted to buy a house, so he gave her $250K for a down payment on a house (in addition to her regular $100K). Here is how our conversation went:

Me: So he gave you $250K for a down payment on a house.
SB: Yes, so, I need to show that I have a regular income outside of what I'm getting from him to get a loan.
Me: Well, you already have a business, we could possibly inflate your profit so that you show enough income to qualify, but you'll have to pay extra tax on that income. It will be about $20K in additional taxes. Can you do that?
SB: No.
Me: Just use the money he gave you and put $230K down.
SB: I can't. I spent it all.
Me: (Dumbfounded look).
SB: Well, it's really expensive to live in Seattle.

Note: I would never inflate income on a tax return so a person could qualify for a home. I just know others that would do it.

AlluringSocialite.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ef0176d5-c62b-42f4-92bb-751ea70f8c[/URL] to68.

Requires a cashapp deposit.

Most of these girls complaining in the Reddit forums are confused. They don't know the difference between a boy friend and a sugar daddy.

Took a bit of a break because I was involved with someone but recently got back on and I have been a busy bee. If anyone needs additional information feel free to ask but here are the good, the bad, and the scammers:

Good:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2454ef8c-2144-4707-9632-671153815ffb[/URL]

Angelqt777- pros: hottie and can take a great load. Cons: 400 ppm, space cadet on time management, and wasn't willing to host. Might repeat.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/367467af-d88f-4462-8fb7-4005c1c55dae[/URL]

Dee pros: absolute nympho and can take multiple loads and can host. Cons: pretty pro vibe and 500 ppm.

Bad:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32dff86b-5935-48d0-be8b-24394e43db82[/URL]

LunvrEclipce- just looking for a trip club customers at $100 for a dinner date. I think she is real but didn't want to deal with the time and money it would take to find out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ea06be2-d5ab-419c-a45a-b6fe8bca560c[/URL]

FoxyGurl- won't do bare and asking for $500 so pass.

Scam:

No details beyond they are a scam and you shouldn't waste your time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf60080e-e1e4-4c38-822a-8ffb596d4a9e[/URL]

AstuteBae.

[QUOTE=MaCross19;5962339]Took a bit of a break because I was involved with someone but recently got back on and I have been a busy bee. If anyone needs additional information feel free to ask but here are the good, the bad, and the scammers:

Good:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2454ef8c-2144-4707-9632-671153815ffb[/URL]

Angelqt777- pros: hottie and can take a great load. Cons: 400 ppm, space cadet on time management, and wasn't willing to host. Might repeat.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/367467af-d88f-4462-8fb7-4005c1c55dae[/URL]

Dee pros: absolute nympho and can take multiple loads and can host. Cons: pretty pro vibe and 500 ppm.

Bad:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32dff86b-5935-48d0-be8b-24394e43db82[/URL]

LunvrEclipce- just looking for a trip club customers at $100 for a dinner date. I think she is real but didn't want to deal with the time and money it would take to find out.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ea06be2-d5ab-419c-a45a-b6fe8bca560c[/URL]

FoxyGurl- won't do bare and asking for $500 so pass.

Scam:

No details beyond they are a scam and you shouldn't waste your time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bf60080e-e1e4-4c38-822a-8ffb596d4a9e[/URL]

AstuteBae.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much 🙏.

I have a vague recollection of seeing Dee on tryst, but I could be mistaken.