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Happy New Year guys,
I have been driving the loop lately and I will agree it is slow. I have always found the winter to be a slower season, but this does seem to be about the slowest I have ever seen. With that being said I have had some luck on the loop but have found that some of the motels (both on and off the loop) have been some very good hunting grounds for me in the last few months.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
Wow.
Was simply driving. Not cruising last night at about 11:00 and saw an amazing looking brunette at the corner of English and Southeastern. I stopped at the light she gave me the look but a car was behind me. I turned around and she was gone. Looked to be early 20's, maybe 120, 5' 6" with a bubble butt that looked like fun. Never had been so rev'ed up for a SW and despite 15 min of circling "poof, gone". Not sure what I would have done if she was there, but it was tempting.
PM if you have info and don't want to post.
[QUOTE=Ralph Alton;1114436]I'm just wondering if anyone has heard from the famous Dee Dee who used to advertise on CL? She was my ATF masseuse! I would love to let her work me over again.[/QUOTE]If you are referring to Dee who lived in Greenwood. She was one of my ATF also. Always good service at a very reasonable price. The last time I was there had to go to the garage because of live-in girlfriend. They had a new baby, how do you figure. Anyway I keep looking and never see an ad anymore.
[QUOTE=Joe Mobo;1117988]If you are referring to Dee who lived in Greenwood. She was one of my ATF also. Always good service at a very reasonable price. The last time I was there had to go to the garage because of live-in girlfriend. They had a new baby, how do you figure. Anyway I keep looking and never see an ad anymore.[/QUOTE]I think you two are talking about a different Dee. Dee Dee worked and lived on the west side.
[QUOTE=Fudge1;1118217]I think you two are talking about a different Dee. Dee Dee worked and lived on the west side.[/QUOTE]You're right, fudge. She was pretty far out west of town in a house not far from the Speedway station (I think it was Speedway).
I almost get wood thinking about that beautiful talented vixen! Great times although HS was all I ever got from her.
OK. I've never been with 2 girls at once. (sheltered life, I know) My question is: I really like provider "A" who has a donation rate of $$$/hr. And, I really like provider "B" who also has a rate of $$$/hr. Is it worth $$$$$$/hr to meet both at the same time?
I suppose if $ was not an issue, it's a no brainer. Also, if your "thing" is 3-ways, then that's something you're passionate about.
I'm looking at it like this: I can have TWO really enjoyable hours (at different times) of fun for $$$$$$ when I see each girl seperately. Or, have ONE great hour with both for $$$$$$. I'm seeing providers getting the chance to "share the work" when they pair up, which I suppose is good for them. Who wouldn't want to share the workload? I've been internally debating this issue. I'm extremenly curious and tempted to "bite the bullet" and try it once. I only have one donger. And no matter how much praying I do before I go to bed, I still wake up in the morning with only one donger. Thoughts?
A 3 way is something every man should try. In college I got hooked! Its hard to find square girls to do 3 ways if they are just one night stand broads. I have probably had 20 3 ways w escorts and each time gets hotter and hotter. Make sure the two you want are truly Bi though cause nothing is hotter plowing her from behind while she is muff diving her friend! Plus two girls on your cock. One sucking you while the other is riding your face! I hope you are sold!
C.
[QUOTE=Slayter9; 1122712]OK. I've never been with 2 girls at once. (sheltered life, I know) My question is: I really like provider "A" who has a donation rate of $$$/hr. And, I really like provider "B" who also has a rate of $$$/hr. Is it worth $$$$$$/hr to meet both at the same time?
I suppose if $ was not an issue, it's a no brainer. Also, if your "thing" is 3-ways, then that's something you're passionate about.
I'm looking at it like this: I can have TWO really enjoyable hours (at different times) of fun for $$$$$$ when I see each girl seperately. Or, have ONE great hour with both for $$$$$$. I'm seeing providers getting the chance to "share the work" when they pair up, which I suppose is good for them. Who wouldn't want to share the workload? I've been internally debating this issue. I'm extremenly curious and tempted to "bite the bullet" and try it once. I only have one donger. And no matter how much praying I do before I go to bed, I still wake up in the morning with only one donger. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Slayter9; 1122712]OK. I've never been with 2 girls at once. (sheltered life, I know) My question is: I really like provider "A" who has a donation rate of $$$/hr. And, I really like provider "B" who also has a rate of $$$/hr. Is it worth $$$$$$/hr to meet both at the same time?
Thoughts? [/QUOTE]If you see them both on a regular basis and if they know each other then negotiate.
Less $ for the hour, however I don't like doing that it upsets the apple cart.
Best thing is to let them know that for full fees, you would like more time. Say 2 hrs. Besides you will need it. I agree with thefunceo, until you have had two bi women who are into themselves. Well nothing else compares. Try it, besides it's only money.
FF.
PS. Had fun searching for freckles last week with some friends. Found them at Paradise, Zeus and Babes East. Even was able to bye 2Nutts a beer, I think. He needed it after playing baseball at HH with D.
My friend,
I negotiate for things all of the time. For instance if you are having a great time with a girl say " you know you would not rather be anywhere else in the world. Would you. And give them a naughty boy smirk.
I will be honest with you and tell you one of my secrets; and that is expensive champagne or lingerie. The girls forget about the clock when I arrive most of the times. I never bring it up, nor do they.
I don't want to shell out $ 1000 or more. I'd much rather gamble it.
A negotiation is a win win deal. So they think. So you sell them on a fantasy time, that they originally were supposed to show you, but you reverse the rolls and take control.
I am always prepared to walk away from any and every negotiation. That is what sets the men from the boys.
I also agree with FF that you should read the body language of the provider before you negotiate on the "first" date.
C.
1. The Five Underlying Facts You Must Understand about Negotiating.
1. You are negotiating all the time.
2. Everything you want is owned or controlled by someone else.
3. There are predicable responses that you can count on in the negotiating process.
4. There are three critical factors in every negotiation-power, information, time.
5. The proper "mesh" of personality types is important to negotiating success.
2. The Three Underpinnings of "Win / Win" Negotiating.
1. Never narrow negotiations down to just one issue.
2. Different people want different things.
3. Price is not always all-important.
3. The Three Stages of Every Negotiation.
1. Learning your opponent's stated goals; stating what you want.
2. Gathering information on your opponent and his needs.
3. Reaching for compromise.
4. The Five Things That Make a Good Negotiator.
1. Knowing that both sides are under pressure so you don't feel intimidated.
2. Wanting to learn negotiating skills.
3. Understanding negotiating skills.
4. Being willing to practice.
5. Wanting to create "win / win" negotiating situations.
5. The Eight Kinds of Power.
1. Title power.
2. Reward power.
3. Punish power.
4. Reverent power.
5. Charismatic power.
6. Expertise power.
7. Situation power.
8. Information power.
6. How to Gather Information.
1. Ask open-ended questions.
2. Repeat statements as questions.
3. Ask for response.
4. Ask for restatements.
5. Ask others who seal with your opponent.
6. Ask your opponent's subordinates.
7. Mix your company's specialists with their specialists.
7. Personality Styles Chart.
1. Find your own type and that of your opponent.
Analytical | Pragmatic.
. Higher assertiveness.
Amiable | Extrovert.
V.
Higher.
Emotionalism.
2. The hardest type for you to negotiate with is the type in the kitty corner opposite yours.
8. Where to Sit in Negotiations.
1. When you're negotiating with two people: sit where you can watch both.
2. When two people are on your team: sit apart so you "speak with two different voices"
3. When your large group opposes their small group: keep your group together for power.
4. When their large group opposes your small group: intermingle to diffuse their power.
9. Five Characteristics of a Successful Negotiation.
1. Both sides feel a sense of accomplishment.
2. Both sides feel the other side cared.
3. Both sides feel the other side was fair.
4. Each side would deal again with the other.
5. Each side feels the other side will keep the bargain.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak; 1123247]If you see them both on a regular basis and if they know each other then negotiate.
Less $ for the hour, however I don't like doing that it upsets the apple cart.
Best thing is to let them know that for full fees, you would like more time. Say 2 hrs. Besides you will need it. I agree with thefunceo, until you have had two bi women who are into themselves. Well nothing else compares. Try it, besides it's only money.
FF.
PS. Had fun searching for freckles last week with some friends. Found them at Paradise, Zeus and Babes East. Even was able to bye 2Nutts a beer, I think. He needed it after playing baseball at HH with D.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thefunceo; 1123088]A 3 way is something every man should try. In college I got hooked! Its hard to find square girls to do 3 ways if they are just one night stand broads. I have probably had 20 3 ways w escorts and each time gets hotter and hotter. Make sure the two you want are truly Bi though cause nothing is hotter plowing her from behind while she is muff diving her friend! Plus two girls on your cock. One sucking you while the other is riding your face! I hope you are sold!
C.[/QUOTE]You went to college?
R.
[QUOTE=Slayter9; 1122712]OK. I've never been with 2 girls at once. (sheltered life, I know) My question is: I really like provider "A" who has a donation rate of $$$/hr. And, I really like provider "B" who also has a rate of $$$/hr. Is it worth $$$$$$/hr to meet both at the same time?
I suppose if $ was not an issue, it's a no brainer. Also, if your "thing" is 3-ways, then that's something you're passionate about.
I'm looking at it like this: I can have TWO really enjoyable hours (at different times) of fun for $$$$$$ when I see each girl separately. Or, have ONE great hour with both for $$$$$$. I'm seeing providers getting the chance to "share the work" when they pair up, which I suppose is good for them. Who wouldn't want to share the workload? I've been internally debating this issue. I'm extremely curious and tempted to "bite the bullet" and try it once. I only have one donger. And no matter how much praying I do before I go to bed, I still wake up in the morning with only one donger. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]Slayter, you've probably never jumped out of an airplane with a parachute either, but that's no reason to do it. If you've been wanting to do a duo, that's different. It's whatever floats your boat.
I tried the duo thing once. I had seen each girl separately several times. This time they were together, one suggested the idea and I thought,"Why not?" I found it wasn't my cup of tea. There was too much to keep track of, too many distractions with a third person. I haven't done that since, and won't.
On another occasion I did a doubleheader when two girls toured into town together. I had seen one girl before when she was in town earlier. She returned a few months later and brought a second girl I had been wanting to see. So I arranged a doubleheader. They had separate rooms and it worked out. It was one of those things (the doubleheader) I'm glad I did but would not do again unless that was what it took to see two girls I would not get the chance to see otherwise. Whatever floats your boat.
But, Slayter, the girls should discount your duo. Unless you are a horse it is less work for them.
[quote]My question is: I really like provider "A" who has a donation rate of $$$/hr. And, I really like provider "B" who also has a rate of $$$/hr. Is it worth $$$$$$/hr to meet both at the same time? [/quote]Okay I have a problem spending a lot of money on something I could deem as "near the same thing."
You are talking about 2 for $600 for 1 hour.
I am talking about heart shaped measuring cups for $50 vs. Normal measuring cups for $4.
So I decided to get the $4 measuring cups. They served their purpose, but for 3 weeks after that I thought of those heart shaped measuring cups. How they were so intricate, unique, original. Finally I said,"fuck these normal measuring cups, I'm getting those damn heart measuring cups." I went back to etsy. Com, low and behold, they're nowhere on the site. They must have been sold. That is a big regret I have.
Just the other day I did the same thing with these picture frames I found on that site that I wanted. Waited two weeks, they sold the day I decided I was going to buy them. Are you fucking kidding me?
Anyway, the moral of my story is, no matter how much it is, if you think about it for a week or two, think about all those things you want to do with two girls, have a live lesbian show, etc, just do it. However if it's not burning a hole in your mind, think of you being on a death bed and not regretting fucking two girls at once, then who cares? Don't do it.
From experience (granted I've only been living 23 years, but I have a LOT of regrets.) You're going to have a lot more regrets on things you didn't do, then things you DID do. After my last few mistakes with etsy. Com, I now LIVE by this motto!
Thanks gentlemen. Great feedback from all of you. Truly great tips. I should print this off and make a binder. Good news, even though I have champagne tastes, I do have the champagne budget to pull this off. I have the money, but I actually made the mistake once of spreading out all of those $20 bills on the car seat before putting them into the donation envelope, and thought "whoa". In about the same time it takes to watch 2 Seinfeld reruns, those $20s will belong to someone else! Haha Thank God I have a powerful memory! (I still know my high school locker combination and it's been 20 years)
Needless to say, my "hobby resume" could be hand written out on one side of a sticky note. I suppose we all get into this for various reasons. First of all, life is too short. Yes,"sex" is the common denominator, but I'm looking for a few providers that I really like (think they 1/2-way like me, but you never truly know) and call it a day. I'm the boring person that finds 1-2 things on the menu I really like at my favorite restaurant and then won't try anything else. Out of fear of liking it less. I like what I like. Also, knowing how I am, I see repeat visits with someone I like as really enjoyable. More enjoyable than constantly trying to "break the ice" and build karma. Walking into a room with a girl that you know you already have karma with is a nice nice feeling. We're all different.
Regarding the 3-way. I assume curiosity will finally get the best of me and I'll do it, at least once. Curiosity sure is a powerful thing!
I don't want to be offensive and this message is for the person who runs this site as well (Jackson). I was a senior member before the "great" redesign, and when I tried to get back on as that person (I used to be Uncle Cletus) , the site rejected my name and wouldn't let me sign on. Heck, it only lets me sign on half the time now as BFDeal. I don't know what I was doing wrong, but it doesn't really matter anyway, so I picked up a new name and now I'm a regular member again. No biggie. Perhaps the biggest difference is the way some senior members treat regular members (and those senior members know who they are. Well, know who they think they are anyway) , and the fact that I use this site less now that I'm a regular member, mostly because of the technical difficulties while trying to sign on and the way some senior members have treated me. I just hope I didn't treat regular members that way when I was a senior member. I really don't mind being a regular member. We're all on here trying to get information anyway. And I won't hesitate going to another site if I can't get the into I'm looking for here anyway.
Just my. 02.
BFDeal
[QUOTE=Niceguy52; 1106448]I am posting here because I have seen posts in most of the other sections blasting regular members. Regular Members the only difference between senior members and you, is the number of posts. Period. Thats it, so take what senior members say with a grain of salt, that includes me. Being a senior member has nothing to do with honesty, integrity or quality of their posts. Its number of posts period. Regular members you will find many members on here who are very jealous, possessive, and vindictive. Some even go to measures of spreading rumors about other members to try and cock block. Usually because they have been shut down and then they don't want you to move in on their "territory. You will find there are probably only a couple of guys on here to trust. Don't PM me about who they are etc, I will not stoop to their level and mention any names. I don't play that way. I don't spread rumors about anybody or bad moth anybody. I play my own game. On the other hand I have found there are a couple great guys on here and enjoy having a beer with them. Again, I will not mention their names. So regular members just put up with the bullshit you get on here and keep posting. Soon you can become a Senior member for whatever that is worth.
Happy hunting and be safe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AbbyAmour; 1123364]Okay I have a problem spending a lot of money on something I could deem as "near the same thing."
You are talking about 2 for $600 for 1 hour.
I am talking about heart shaped measuring cups for $50 vs. Normal measuring cups for $4.
So I decided to get the $4 measuring cups. They served their purpose, but for 3 weeks after that I thought of those heart shaped measuring cups. How they were so intricate, unique, original. Finally I said,"fuck these normal measuring cups, I'm getting those damn heart measuring cups." I went back to etsy. Com, low and behold, they're nowhere on the site. They must have been sold. That is a big regret I have.
Just the other day I did the same thing with these picture frames I found on that site that I wanted. Waited two weeks, they sold the day I decided I was going to buy them. Are you fucking kidding me?
Anyway, the moral of my story is, no matter how much it is, if you think about it for a week or two, think about all those things you want to do with two girls, have a live lesbian show, etc, just do it. However if it's not burning a hole in your mind, think of you being on a death bed and not regretting fucking two girls at once, then who cares? Don't do it.
From experience (granted I've only been living 23 years, but I have a LOT of regrets.) You're going to have a lot more regrets on things you didn't do, then things you DID do. After my last few mistakes with etsy. Com, I now LIVE by this motto! [/QUOTE]She is not only beautiful, and from what apparently all of my friends, admittedly I don't have many, but they all seem to have seen this girl and crowned her their ATF, but apparently she is also smart, witty and funny. Now that is a scary, admittedly wonderful, but scary combination. That is the kind of post that makes you glad providers post and that they can add interesting and valuable thoughts to the conversation.