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[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2580351]Were you, LusciousLips, the provider who formerly posted as Tiffanyn30? This is not a difficult question.[/QUOTE]But it sure seems like a vindictive one.
Does anyone else care about the answer? Will it matter to anyone who visits her now?
I do not post-rant or summarize often but here goes Three AMP's I two weeks One was one where I frequented and one where trust was now mutual aand progressed to being able to unhook bra play and enjoy nice he. It closed do to lack of business. Ventured to one where I was familiar in NKY and had nice hands all over me sensual rub with he. NO BREAST PLAY hands roamed ass == coochy through panties only. Third same as last-- great sensual hands all over but No Breast touching or kissing.
What is new is that all had their bra's on so tight you could not venture in casually from the bottom or top. AND at completion the latter two said tip==$40.
So it seems like new universal rules no breast, nipple touching or kissing and push for 40 its universal I said no not wioth it unless I at least get a topless massage she got huffy pouty a little bitchy etc. Just though I would share any other input from others?.
I often read some posts and see more often than not that many mongers are the providers age. I guess they are in their late 20's? So many posts are like "I'm their age had a great time, we connected so YMMV. How many of you guys did this at that age? Me? I had all the pussy I could stand for free back then. No, I'm not the best looking guy but can carry a conversation. Never even thought about this until I got a LOT older, worked a lot more hours with less chance of meeting girls and is easier to get a quick one with no drama live in issues. What do you guys think? ZT.
[QUOTE=Swami222;2583781]But it sure seems like a vindictive one.
Does anyone else care about the answer? Will it matter to anyone who visits her now?[/QUOTE]Actually, I do care to hear a direct answer.
Example: HotSquirt (who is back) was run off the biz a year ago for doing a cash-and-dash. She'll have excuses, but that what it was, a cash-and-dash. If she had come back under a different name and started providing good service, I think it is still important to know her history.
Now, with Tiffany30, I don't know why she left, and I certainly have not heard anything negative about her before. Stellar reputation as far as I know. But I would still like to know if it was her coming back. Maybe I was a customer who just didn't click with her and even though she tried, I just didn't enjoy myself. Knowing that it was her under a new moniker would save me the trouble of booking and finding out later it was the same person I had no connection with.
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2583773]And as far as I know, guys who've seen LusciousLips lately seem to have had a good time.
It's interesting, however, that she won't answer the one simple question, which is whether she used to be Tiffanyn30. Why she won't answer this may also be interesting.
I don't spend a lot of time here anymore, because I really don't get much out of it. However, I'm pursuing this on the principle that a provider who has ever cooperated with LEO should not get business from us. One reason is that plenty of providers have been popped over time and never turned, so why support one who did?
If LL is indeed the artist formerly known as Tiffanyn30, then I did see her at one point last year. I was not one of the guys who got stung subsequently in Goshen. I did PM with a "friend" of one who did get stung, who had a lot of credible details. And unlike most rumors of provider / LEO activity, there was documentary evidence to support what he said, given the charges brought against five guys for soliciting in Goshen last August.
It would be helpful if one of the guys who got popped would provide details here. It is, after all, an anonymous forum if you use it sensibly, and there's additional safety in numbers given that there were five of you. But, I haven't seen that happen yet.
Just hypothetically, I would say just because a provider cooperated with LEO once doesn't mean she will again. I'm sure she fulfilled her end of the bargain. However, I don't think she should get our business in the future for a couple of reasons. One, if she gets popped again, the same thing is likely to happen. Two, it's the principle. However much contempt we may feel for one another (and, certainly, I feel a fair amount for many here) we are all brothers in a sense. We cum from the same wombs, so to speak. If we patronize a provider who participated in setting up other mongers, it sends a pretty bad message that this sort of behavior will be tolerated. I'm not of the school that snitches should meet with violence or other forms of illegal payback. Shunning and boycotts, however, are another story.[/QUOTE]As much as I would like to see an answer, all she has to say is no and none of us can refute it. Its probably time to let it go. New drama will pop up to keep us entertained.
[QUOTE=ZackTy;2584185]I often read some posts and see more often than not that many mongers are the providers age. I guess they are in their late 20's? So many posts are like "I'm their age had a great time, we connected so YMMV. How many of you guys did this at that age? Me? I had all the pussy I could stand for free back then. No, I'm not the best looking guy but can carry a conversation. Never even thought about this until I got a LOT older, worked a lot more hours with less chance of meeting girls and is easier to get a quick one with no drama live in issues. What do you guys think? ZT.[/QUOTE]I mongered on and off in my late 20's and early 30's. In addition to the obvious reason, I did it for pretty much the same additional reasons as I do now (the adrenaline rush, the thrill of getting away with something, variety, and so on).
Plus, I lived here back then and found that gaming Cincinnati area women in their 20's is not as easy as it sounds. By the time your typical middle class native chick around here hits her 20's, they firmly believe the world owes them a husband with a 6 figure corporate job, a 4 bedroom house, a brand new minivan, and 2 or 3 screaming brats. If you don't fit the criteria on her shopping list, you're out of luck. But my impression from a distance is it's easier to game the chicks in their 20's now. This generation of young women just seems to give it up easier, although I would sure as heck never marry one of them, as their sense of entitlement seems much worse now than it did in my younger days.
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2583773]And as far as I know, guys who've seen LusciousLips lately seem to have had a good time.
It's interesting, however, that she won't answer the one simple question, which is whether she used to be Tiffanyn30. Why she won't answer this may also be interesting.
I don't spend a lot of time here anymore, because I really don't get much out of it. However, I'm pursuing this on the principle that a provider who has ever cooperated with LEO should not get business from us. One reason is that plenty of providers have been popped over time and never turned, so why support one who did?
If LL is indeed the artist formerly known as Tiffanyn30, then I did see her at one point last year. I was not one of the guys who got stung subsequently in Goshen. I did PM with a "friend" of one who did get stung, who had a lot of credible details. And unlike most rumors of provider / LEO activity, there was documentary evidence to support what he said, given the charges brought against five guys for soliciting in Goshen last August.
It would be helpful if one of the guys who got popped would provide details here. It is, after all, an anonymous forum if you use it sensibly, and there's additional safety in numbers given that there were five of you. But, I haven't seen that happen yet.
Just hypothetically, I would say just because a provider cooperated with LEO once doesn't mean she will again. I'm sure she fulfilled her end of the bargain. However, I don't think she should get our business in the future for a couple of reasons. One, if she gets popped again, the same thing is likely to happen. Two, it's the principle. However much contempt we may feel for one another (and, certainly, I feel a fair amount for many here) we are all brothers in a sense. We cum from the same wombs, so to speak. If we patronize a provider who participated in setting up other mongers, it sends a pretty bad message that this sort of behavior will be tolerated. I'm not of the school that snitches should meet with violence or other forms of illegal payback. Shunning and boycotts, however, are another story.[/QUOTE]If you don't care then why? I think you are going way overboard on this whole thing. We can't prove if she was or wasn't Tiffany 30, I didn't see her then and I haven't seen her as of this posting. I think you made your point just let it rest and let grown men make their decision. HL29.
Well said -it's getting worse every day. The pendulum is going to go to the extreme as it did in Japan and then we will have birth rate crisis. Doomsday scenario. LOL.
[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;2584591]I mongered on and off in my late 20's and early 30's. In addition to the obvious reason, I did it for pretty much the same additional reasons as I do now (the adrenaline rush, the thrill of getting away with something, variety, and so on).
Plus, I lived here back then and found that gaming Cincinnati area women in their 20's is not as easy as it sounds. By the time your typical middle class native chick around here hits her 20's, they firmly believe the world owes them a husband with a 6 figure corporate job, a 4 bedroom house, a brand new minivan, and 2 or 3 screaming brats. If you don't fit the criteria on her shopping list, you're out of luck. But my impression from a distance is it's easier to game the chicks in their 20's now. This generation of young women just seems to give it up easier, although I would sure as heck never marry one of them, as their sense of entitlement seems much worse now than it did in my younger days.[/QUOTE]
Same girl. Visited the trailer park last summer. She provided as advertised and had no issues with entrapment mentioned by other. Earlier ads posted by LL had a clear face pic that is not in ad now. A provider just falls from the sky and magically appears out of no where. Come on people. If she suits your needs and provides as advertised go get sum. Or don't.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2584600]If you don't care then why? I think you are going way overboard on this whole thing. We can't prove if she was or wasn't Tiffany 30, I didn't see her then and I haven't seen her as of this posting. I think you made your point just let it rest and let grown men make their decision. HL29.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lugnutz;2583771]And as far as I know, guys who've seen LusciousLips lately seem to have had a good time.
It's interesting, however, that she won't answer the one simple question, which is whether she used to be Tiffanyn30. Why she won't answer this may also be interesting.
I don't spend a lot of time here anymore, because I really don't get much out of it. However, I'm pursuing this on the principle that a provider who has ever cooperated with LEO should not get business from us. One reason is that plenty of providers have been popped over time and never turned, so why support one who did?
If LL is indeed the artist formerly known as Tiffanyn30, then I did see her at one point last year. I was not one of the guys who got stung subsequently in Goshen. I did PM with a "friend" of one who did get stung, who had a lot of credible details. And unlike most rumors of provider / LEO activity, there was documentary evidence to support what he said, given the charges brought against five guys for soliciting in Goshen last August.
It would be helpful if one of the guys who got popped would provide details here. It is, after all, an anonymous forum if you use it sensibly, and there's additional safety in numbers given that there were five of you. But, I haven't seen that happen yet.
Just hypothetically, I would say just because a provider cooperated with LEO once doesn't mean she will again. I'm sure she fulfilled her end of the bargain. However, I don't think she should get our business in the future for a couple of reasons. One, if she gets popped again, the same thing is likely to happen. Two, it's the principle. However much contempt we may feel for one another (and, certainly, I feel a fair amount for many here) we are all brothers in a sense. We cum from the same wombs, so to speak. If we patronize a provider who participated in setting up other mongers, it sends a pretty bad message that this sort of behavior will be tolerated. I'm not of the school that snitches should meet with violence or other forms of illegal payback. Shunning and boycotts, however, are another story.[/QUOTE]The best part of your post is that you don't spend much time here anymore. It would be even better if you spent NO TIME here anymore.
[QUOTE=Thorbane;2583342]Taking this to the octagon as there been provider on this board asking about Voyeurism. And all I get from my I. S. O. Is that providers 85% for the most part want full donation or double the donation because it would be myself a female friend who wants to watch. For the exception of Candice. I mostly have been going thru craigslist and the cheviot show couple. And backpage and having to weed thru that monkey farm to find what I want. I just confused that more providers do not clearly list this service? And at a price that is fair for the service render. It like in the movie fields of dreams, build it and they will come? Hope fully this will start a forum that perhaps shed some light on me on why this is happening.[/QUOTE]Little surprised on the lack of rants raves or opinions that have not been openly posted. I gotten quite a few pm Which I answered all. I was hoping to get a better understand why it not post in ads or talked about that much.
A gentleman with this part of num +1 (859) xxx-1367 contacted me today and I wouldn't see him then he used me as a reference. He doesn't sound right and nothing sounds normal about him. Please be safe ladies and make sure you do your references. If any one uses me as a reference please contact me. He starts off by saying he is a married Christian guy. Lmao.
[QUOTE=Mikeeee501;2584689]Same girl. Visited the trailer park last summer. She provided as advertised and had no issues with entrapment mentioned by other. Earlier ads posted by LL had a clear face pic that is not in ad now. A provider just falls from the sky and magically appears out of no where. Come on people. If she suits your needs and provides as advertised go get sum. Or don't.[/QUOTE]I really don't know what she did before, but I've seen her twice recently as "Luscious Lips. " She was legit for me. I had a good time and will be back.
[QUOTE=ZackTy;2584185]I often read some posts and see more often than not that many mongers are the providers age. I guess they are in their late 20's? So many posts are like "I'm their age had a great time, we connected so YMMV. How many of you guys did this at that age? Me? I had all the pussy I could stand for free back then. No, I'm not the best looking guy but can carry a conversation. Never even thought about this until I got a LOT older, worked a lot more hours with less chance of meeting girls and is easier to get a quick one with no drama live in issues. What do you guys think? ZT.[/QUOTE]I'm middle-aged. I didn't get laid much in my 20's. I think if you grew up in the 60's and 70's pussy was easy to get. When I was growing up it was harder. Most of my friends were virgins into their late teens. We had sluts. But unless you were in relationship there wasn't much action. Also depending on job you might not meet women and workplace hookups are frowned upon now and risky. I think guys could make moves back in the the day and not get swatted for sexual harrasment. I started paying for pussy when my wife passed. I wanted to also. I no longer cared about much. So fuck it. If she was around I wouldn't be here.
[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;2586273]A gentleman with this part of num +1 (859) xxx-1367 contacted me today and I wouldn't see him then he used me as a reference. He doesn't sound right and nothing sounds normal about him. Please be safe ladies and make sure you do your references. If any one uses me as a reference please contact me. He starts off by saying he is a married Christian guy. Lmao.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much!!
Always,
VR.
Does anyone else occasionally have a problem logging in from a smart phone? I enter the info and it acts like your logging in but user name still comes back blank. Not to big a deal, just wondering if anyone else has this issue.
[QUOTE=TommyJohn;2586804]Does anyone else occasionally have a problem logging in from a smart phone? I enter the info and it acts like your logging in but user name still comes back blank. Not to big a deal, just wondering if anyone else has this issue.[/QUOTE]Occasionally with my Chromebook. I usually click on one of the buttons like Forum and it pops back up. I think it's a browser issue.
This is exactly what I was talking about 2 months ago, its crazy 5 or 6 posts a day for same girl, I'm sorry but for those of you that are doing that, all it does is make you look very desperate! The gentlemen don't have the time to scroll thru all the desperate girls to get to us reputable providers, and they shouldn't have too! It isn't going to help you be any busier, in fact you will get less response because your making yourself look so desperate! Just saying! Everyone have a great evening and as always be safe!
[QUOTE=TommyJohn;2586804]Does anyone else occasionally have a problem logging in from a smart phone? I enter the info and it acts like your logging in but user name still comes back blank. Not to big a deal, just wondering if anyone else has this issue.[/QUOTE]I have had the same problem. I find if I click on forum after logging in when the username and password boxes are blank it will refresh and show as logged in. Don't know why, it only happens from my smartphone and not all the time. Hope it works for you.
[QUOTE=TommyJohn;2586804]Does anyone else occasionally have a problem logging in from a smart phone? I enter the info and it acts like your logging in but user name still comes back blank. Not to big a deal, just wondering if anyone else has this issue.[/QUOTE]For me clearing the cache in the browser fixes the problem.
I set an appointment with Sexy Sassy yesterday for today I have seen her before but have been hung out to dry twice before, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment everything was set up. My last text from her was for me to text her at 10:30 am to confirm and she will text her address, then crickets. When I set up the appointment I sent her a PM so she would know it was from a legit senior member, I even told her where to find the post where we had seen each other and her reply post saying how she had a good time, I also gave her 2 references. Then I texted her she got back to me a few hours later apologized for getting back to me so late then set everything up for 12 pm. I still haven't heard from her I'm glad I had a backup plan in Tay22. These girls need to understand our time is just as important as theirs and we can't afford to waste our time and waste those little blue pills. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2587702]I set an appointment with Sexy Sassy yesterday for today I have seen her before but have been hung out to dry twice before, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment everything was set up. My last text from her was for me to text her at 10:30 am to confirm and she will text her address, then crickets. When I set up the appointment I sent her a PM so she would know it was from a legit senior member, I even told her where to find the post where we had seen each other and her reply post saying how she had a good time, I also gave her 2 references. Then I texted her she got back to me a few hours later apologized for getting back to me so late then set everything up for 12 pm. I still haven't heard from her I'm glad I had a backup plan in Tay22. These girls need to understand our time is just as important as theirs and we can't afford to waste our time and waste those little blue pills. HL29.[/QUOTE]She has never no showed me but sometimes it's like pulling teeth making contact with her. She says she's available then you don't hear back for hours. I have never had a bad appt with her. They've always been top notch. Just poor phone skills.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2587702]I set an appointment with Sexy Sassy yesterday for today I have seen her before but have been hung out to dry twice before, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment everything was set up. My last text from her was for me to text her at 10:30 am to confirm and she will text her address, then crickets. When I set up the appointment I sent her a PM so she would know it was from a legit senior member, I even told her where to find the post where we had seen each other and her reply post saying how she had a good time, I also gave her 2 references. Then I texted her she got back to me a few hours later apologized for getting back to me so late then set everything up for 12 pm. I still haven't heard from her I'm glad I had a backup plan in Tay22. These girls need to understand our time is just as important as theirs and we can't afford to waste our time and waste those little blue pills. HL29.[/QUOTE]I used to be a good regular with her. Never an issue, no bad words between us, great service. Now for the last three months I can't reach her. Ill text her and most of the time I get no response. When she does respond its always positive. Then when I text back she won't respond. Would like to see her but just can't seem to reach her.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2587702]I set an appointment with Sexy Sassy yesterday for today I have seen her before but have been hung out to dry twice before, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment everything was set up. My last text from her was for me to text her at 10:30 am to confirm and she will text her address, then crickets. When I set up the appointment I sent her a PM so she would know it was from a legit senior member, I even told her where to find the post where we had seen each other and her reply post saying how she had a good time, I also gave her 2 references. Then I texted her she got back to me a few hours later apologized for getting back to me so late then set everything up for 12 pm. I still haven't heard from her I'm glad I had a backup plan in Tay22. These girls need to understand our time is just as important as theirs and we can't afford to waste our time and waste those little blue pills. HL29.[/QUOTE]Putting her on blast here is a good call. I hate that shit. I won't fuck with a girl who wastes my time. I can't fuck a girl who doesn't possess a basic respect for people. To much contempt.
[QUOTE=LTL429;2587734]She has never no showed me but sometimes it's like pulling teeth making contact with her. She says she's available then you don't hear back for hours. I have never had a bad appt with her. They've always been top notch. Just poor phone skills.[/QUOTE]That's why I wanted to see her again, to her credit she just texted me and I believe we have things worked out. I will contact her the first of the week and see what we can set up. HL29.
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2587702]I set an appointment with Sexy Sassy yesterday for today I have seen her before but have been hung out to dry twice before, I guess I'm a glutton for punishment everything was set up. My last text from her was for me to text her at 10:30 am to confirm and she will text her address, then crickets. When I set up the appointment I sent her a PM so she would know it was from a legit senior member, I even told her where to find the post where we had seen each other and her reply post saying how she had a good time, I also gave her 2 references. Then I texted her she got back to me a few hours later apologized for getting back to me so late then set everything up for 12 pm. I still haven't heard from her I'm glad I had a backup plan in Tay22. These girls need to understand our time is just as important as theirs and we can't afford to waste our time and waste those little blue pills. HL29.[/QUOTE]In fact, I think she deserves the "Worst Preliminary Skills" award for any legitimate escort. I have gotten two dozen return texts from her, with each one getting my hopes up only to be toyed with, disregarded, and ultimately ignored. The first time I was driving around waiting for the room number only to have her disappear for two hours. Eventually she texted that "something came up" and she wanted to reschedule! I cannot imagine what motivates this seemingly delicious young woman to use her phone the way she does. It would be so much better if she just wouldn't respond unless she was ready for action.
But despite the inconvenience and irritation, she has an almost irresistible allure that requires thinking with the little head.
If I ever visit her and the time comes for mish, I'll probably split her in two.
[QUOTE=Swami222;2589411]In fact, I think she deserves the "Worst Preliminary Skills" award for any legitimate escort. I have gotten two dozen return texts from her, with each one getting my hopes up only to be toyed with, disregarded, and ultimately ignored. The first time I was driving around waiting for the room number only to have her disappear for two hours. Eventually she texted that "something came up" and she wanted to reschedule! I cannot imagine what motivates this seemingly delicious young woman to use her phone the way she does. It would be so much better if she just wouldn't respond unless she was ready for action.
But despite the inconvenience and irritation, she has an almost irresistible allure that requires thinking with the little head.
If I ever visit her and the time comes for mish, I'll probably split her in two.[/QUOTE]But this what they count on. I don't think she's very attractive so I've never been tempted. So I can see it without the little head interfering. Hearing about her gaming guys without regard for their time just makes her gormless face and shitty attitude look even less attractive. Here is a good read on why these women play us and why they give money they earn to pimps. If you don't think this way naturally. If you have the kind of personality where you keep your self in check and are honorable. This shit will spin your head. [URL]http://revolutionarylifestyledesign.com/what-you-can-learn-from-the-pimp-game-about-women-and-life/[/URL].
Made me rethink how I treat the women I fuck.
[QUOTE=Swami222;2589411]In fact, I think she deserves the "Worst Preliminary Skills" award for any legitimate escort. I have gotten two dozen return texts from her, with each one getting my hopes up only to be toyed with, disregarded, and ultimately ignored. The first time I was driving around waiting for the room number only to have her disappear for two hours. Eventually she texted that "something came up" and she wanted to reschedule! I cannot imagine what motivates this seemingly delicious young woman to use her phone the way she does. It would be so much better if she just wouldn't respond unless she was ready for action.
But despite the inconvenience and irritation, she has an almost irresistible allure that requires thinking with the little head.
If I ever visit her and the time comes for mish, I'll probably split her in two.[/QUOTE]I went through the same routine about 2 years ago and saw her several times. She was OK but when the communication died I finally decided that I was an idiot to keep trying to see her. So for about 2 years she has been pulling the same shit with everyone. It appears that I am not the only idiot. I have met SO MANY HOT WOMEN with good communication. Not all, but of of them more talented. FORGET HER.
CM513.
I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]The deal is pretty straightforward. Saying it's "this much money and I do xyz" is evidence of intent to sell "xyz" for "this much" money. Hard to back away from that. Or pretend it was just for her time. So that is why most will avoid it. Might even scare experienced men away if she discussed business over the phone or in text. Same reason we don't hand the money directly to her. Because it creates a small window of deniability. You just put the money down. She picks it up later. You didn't give her the money. She found the money. It's bullshit. But technically it might be enough to wiggle out of a bad time.
As far as anyone choosing not to share information with you. They don't know you. They only have a few posts to get a feel for who you might be. What kind of guy you are. Why should you be shared with at all? Why should a guy take a chance on you? See the parallel? Also. Your name is deepblue. Would be stupid of cops to call themselves that. But cops who work a useless beat like vice. Well. I think most of us would call anyone who dedicates their life to immorally upholding a law that is unjust as being the worst kind of stooge. Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.
You are new so have some things to learn. Your name can be interpreted by some as being a cop. When you call up a provider, they do not know who you are so are being extra careful. Are you experienced with references, a newbie or a cop? Never ask in detail what they offer. They are being careful so don't want to tell the wrong person details of what they do. Once you have seen some providers and they can give you a reference, the ladies will talk more. Same in regards to asking too specific a question to other Bd members. Read the BDs, gather knowledge, post, and once you have more posting and senior status, you will find many members who are helpful. Just some things to think about.
KC.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]Almost all your questions can be answered if you take the time to read reviews. Newer girl with few reviews? Your loss. Look at the more established providers.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]I have to have seen you before I would even think about talking about what I offer. You can however look at my past reviews and my website if you would like to know more. It is for safety reasons the same reasons I ask for references it is not only for my safety but, for yours as well. Hope this helps you understand a little bit.
Always,
VR.
[QUOTE=Grizzler;2591094]The deal is pretty straightforward. Saying it's "this much money and I do xyz" is evidence of intent to sell "xyz" for "this much" money. Hard to back away from that. Or pretend it was just for her time. So that is why most will avoid it. Might even scare experienced men away if she discussed business over the phone or in text. Same reason we don't hand the money directly to her. Because it creates a small window of deniability. You just put the money down. She picks it up later. You didn't give her the money. She found the money. It's bullshit. But technically it might be enough to wiggle out of a bad time.
As far as anyone choosing not to share information with you. They don't know you. They only have a few posts to get a feel for who you might be. What kind of guy you are. Why should you be shared with at all? Why should a guy take a chance on you? See the parallel? Also. Your name is deepblue. Would be stupid of cops to call themselves that. But cops who work a useless beat like vice. Well. I think most of us would call anyone who dedicates their life to immorally upholding a law that is unjust as being the worst kind of stooge. Seems like if you were willing to compromise your honor in this way. You might also be an idiot.[/QUOTE]I read his posts and I've seen nothing that would allow me to trust him with info. You can't get specific with girls on the phone or text it's way to incriminating, I don't know what this guys rant is about but to me it's pure BS and post count buildup. HL29.
If you had bothered to read anything on here you'd know that nearly all of the things you post below are verboten in the world of pay for play, plus you decided to create a username that elicits quite a bit of suspicion in these parts. Then you label everyone that doesn't trust you or want to cooperate ignorant?
I'm surprised you have managed to get laid at all if you're for real, because you are pretty ignorant.
Not trying to offend you. Just sayin.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2591449]I read his posts and I've seen nothing that would allow me to trust him with info. You can't get specific with girls on the phone or text it's way to incriminating, I don't know what this guys rant is about but to me it's pure BS and post count buildup. HL29.[/QUOTE]One thing though. He has the matter-of-fact demeanor of a seasoned / jaded veteran monger. It took me at least 100 posts before I developed that much sense of entitlement and overall level of douchbagginess.
Am I the only one that thinks tbe majority if not all the providers are charging to much fucking money?
Theres no way a bng should ever be $60 or even $40 that shit is ridiculous. And when I see a provider for cfs I don't have the time to spend with them. So I seek a qv. I want to get in get off snd get out chances are fifteen minutes and I'm out the door. I don't need to be cuddled or sweet talked so why the hell would I pay $60 $80 or $100 or more. I'm not a bad looking fella and ill be damned if I'm going to pay these broads more by the half hour than I make myself in a whole hour. The sad thing is fellow mongers pay these outrageous prices and these girls feel like there entitled because of it. I understand that some girls are better looking than others but in the end its the same fucking result. I'm going to drop my load and be out.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]Us providers need safety too and for us to talk about our menus to a stranger on other end of phone is a no no. We don't know who you are, what you are, what your about and what your going to do. We take enuf risk but we are far from stupid when it comes to safety. You obviously don't care about safety at all. How do you ever know who your really talking too. Unless it's a well reviewed provider as myself you actually wouldn't know. I don't even talk menu over phone with seniors or after reference verification. Reviews say it all though and unless you research your most likely not going to know anything on a provider. But for real to call us stupid and downgrade us like this, is flat out disrespectful and rude. We are humans too and have family kids etc. You are not worth us losing everything we have because of your selfishness. Money doesn't come first to me and some other providers but safety does. I really think you need to quite thinking of only yourself and quite being selfish and show some respect. Just saying.
[QUOTE=Deepblue798;2590662]I mentioned this in another post but I will talk about it again.
When I talk with a provider to setup something, I always ask about the menu in detail. I have some deal breakers like no dfk, no cim, no deal at all.
Some of the girls are being extremely cautious and refuse to talk about these details on the phone. They think I am a cop to hunt them down on the phone. Somehow, they believe providing this info on the phone will get them arrested.
Some of them tells me that they will not provide this information on the phone. That's fine, I just move on.
Some of them breaks the communication at that point. That is rude.
Some of them are just plain crazy. A couple of them asked me to send them a picture of my tool with my face in it, just to prove that I am not a cop. Ohh really?
I don't know the right word for this (weird, funny, annoying, absurd or whatever) but the most common response is "We will talk when you are here". I will not be there if I can't get answers to my questions honey. Why would I drive all the way to you, just to get my answers and then decide to stay or not stay after talking with you?!
Anyway, by now I got used to this and nothing much surprises me in this subject anymore. I just move on and don't think about it too much. Like I said, I believe some of these girls are extremely cautious but some of them are just plain idiots.
Now this happened to me very recently.
I PMed a senior member about a contact infomation which he possibly might have and I got this reply. Not the same exact words but something in this line.
"Mr. Deepblue with 5 posts, I will not share it with you OFFICER".
Sometimes I am wondering how these people with this much stupidity can manage to survive life? Sometimes I am thinking, this much "stupidity" should be a crime and these people should be locked up.
Then I remember the infamous saying "Ignorance is bliss".
Maybe they are having a happier life than I am just because they are plain stupid.
I am NOT here to offend anybody, just saying.[/QUOTE]By posting something useful. An actual review would be astonishing, although I doubt any gal will see you. You seem like too much of a douche.
[QUOTE=Kc148;2591292]You are new so have some things to learn. Your name can be interpreted by some as being a cop. When you call up a provider, they do not know who you are so are being extra careful. Are you experienced with references, a newbie or a cop? Never ask in detail what they offer. They are being careful so don't want to tell the wrong person details of what they do. Once you have seen some providers and they can give you a reference, the ladies will talk more. Same in regards to asking too specific a question to other Bd members. Read the BDs, gather knowledge, post, and once you have more posting and senior status, you will find many members who are helpful. Just some things to think about.
KC.[/QUOTE]It takes time to develop trust. Read the posts. Once you have visited and reported on some providers there is lots of help around here. Include some details you would not know if you had not been there. This will make seasoned veterans more comfortable if they realize the only way you would know this is to have been there. I have seen more than one bogus post knocked out. It is almost comical when you read of someones visit yesterday and 3 veterans come back with she has been on vacation for 2 weeks now.
Once you have a history your reports will not need to include as much detail because the participants will come to trust you.
KC is actually the first on here to give me assistance. His reply did not go into much detail, he simply stated " you will have fun" and boy did I ever. Listen to him. No one starts at the top. If you follow a few rules it may help keep you out of trouble.
Now go have fun.
Fdx.