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[QUOTE=XBigunX;4094271]If I only have a few hours, is it worth the drive from PHX? Extras are always fun, but need to be stimulated by physical appearance also without breaking the bank.[/QUOTE]What are you asking. Is what worth the drive? Clubs, an individual? Massage parlors?
[QUOTE=HootchiePapa;4092131]Is this the same Karen who works at curves? I always used to see her there. But I haven't been to clubs in months. Yes her ass is amazing and she always seems to have friends with her. She gives great floor dances as well.
Hootchie.[/QUOTE]I seldom get to curves, so I don't know the Karen there. I just know that I always enjoy a few dances with her. Blonde, dark roots. Great smile and attitude. I like her butt, but I would not like it if it was any larger. Teetering on the edge of my tastes.
[QUOTE=MaximumSpider;4094261]I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time. We go to private for a few hundred. Still fun. Supposedly she still wants to together on the outside. Okay. Over the next week a handful of flirty texts are sent back and forth, and as soon as I mention actually getting together, she ghosts me again.
Has anybody run into, or had success with, this girl? I assume that I'm being fished for money in some way, but if that's true, then her methods don't make a whole lot of sense and seem like a really good way to make zero money on the side and lose who would be more than happy to be a regular customer in the club itself. She's hot enough to pursue if OTC is on the table, and if there's some hidden way to unlock it, then, please, do tell. Or, is trying to find logic behind the actions of a pothead stripper a fool's errand?[/QUOTE]Doesn't sound like she needs to make money on the side. She has at least one guy dropping cash on her by the hundys for lap dances. Though it seems that he has possibly caught on.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4094805]What are you asking. Is what worth the drive? Clubs, an individual? Massage parlors?[/QUOTE]Sorry I wasn't clearer, but since I was posting in the "Strip Clubs Reports" I thought it would be an indicator that I was asking about strip clubs. My apologies!
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4095328]Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.[/QUOTE]No actual experience with her, accept like yours, but no doubt she goes the distance. We've talked a few times and she lives in phx, at least a few months ago. She said she could come spend time with me, but of course for a price. Never discussed that part because I get enough for free for the same quality looks-wise. She is an engaging female who travels the world frequently, no sure on whose dime though. I get the feeling she would be a fantastic time, but have no clue on the damage. Speaking from experience, these type of females rarely disappoint. I had a round with Alexandria or Alex, danced over a year ago, and I put her in that same category. Smart gals who know exactly how to please a man.
I've seen a very hot AA dancer going by the name London at the Hi Liter in Phoenix. Since Raiders is owned by the same group, and your London says she lives in Phoenix, could be the same girl just working Tucson for a while. Only got dances from her at the HL, but definitely hot, hot, hot, and could be incredible OTC. Report back on any developments, please!
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4095328]Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.[/QUOTE]
Have any of you used this site? I've come across this one in the link below. Decided to contact and she didn't respond until a few days later, thought maybe she's just busy (some of them might have a day job). A few texts later and arranged a time, she has an incall location just a little north of the you. Since I didn't have enough time, and it would be the first time meeting, I asked for the donation rate for hhr, but she said it's 200 roses for up to hr. Since I couldn't find any reviews, and didn't want to waste $$ as I was in a rush, I explained the situation to her, but she seemed a little ticked about reviews and review sites. Hope your experience is different with this one.
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[QUOTE=Achmed46;4095328]Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.[/QUOTE]The way I have arranged OTC with the girls starts with floor dances may be one drink and I would ask if they prefer OTC. If they agree to do it I usually ask what would be the rate, if we agreed to the rate I would ask if the have an IC place to go. If all my dots are set right I would tell them to go get dress, tell the bounce she is taking lunch and get out of the club right away with her that day. This will filter out those that are just pulling your leg vs those who are real and want to fuck outside the club.
Best of luck next time.
[QUOTE=SuckItAgain;4094410]The truly has your number. No offense brother but she definitely is just using you for the 20's 50's and 100 serial numbers in your back pocket. I would just suggest to enjoy the time when you see her in the club and move on to one that will see you OTC if that's what you truly want from them anyway. It's definitely nice to be able to have both.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4094851]Doesn't sound like she needs to make money on the side. She has at least one guy dropping cash on her by the hundys for lap dances. Though it seems that he has possibly caught on.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I figured. Just seems like a weird way to go about business that could easily cut off the funds, you know? Why hint at OTC when I didn't even inquire and she's not willing?
Oh well.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest420;4095520]Have any of you used this site? I've come across this one in the link below. Decided to contact and she didn't respond until a few days later, thought maybe she's just busy (some of them might have a day job). A few texts later and arranged a time, she has an incall location just a little north of the you. Since I didn't have enough time, and it would be the first time meeting, I asked for the donation rate for hhr, but she said it's 200 roses for up to hr. Since I couldn't find any reviews, and didn't want to waste $$ as I was in a rush, I explained the situation to her, but she seemed a little ticked about reviews and review sites. Hope your experience is different with this one.
[URL]https://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Jay_Elle-110126/[/URL][/QUOTE]That does not look like a 19 year old face to me.
[QUOTE=XBigunX;4095165]Sorry I wasn't clearer, but since I was posting in the "Strip Clubs Reports" I thought it would be an indicator that I was asking about strip clubs. My apologies![/QUOTE]I have had lots of fun and met some very nice looking ladies at raiders reef. Now about breaking the bank-money just flies out of my wallet at those places. So money spent is relative to how much is available of course. So at the boat if you go into the Champaign room at 20 bucks a dance, that means you are burning a c-note every fifteen minutes I have wasted money on non. Performers and have had daty, BBBJ for that much. Sometimes it is just a crap shoot. Now you could go to venom and pay the fee for the cabanas for half an hour but you really need to be sure of what you are going to get in there. Once again, I have had a great time and I got burned a few times. And at venom you must negotiated all the bovine herd to get to a real looker. Just not worth it to me any more. So yes. Drive on down from phoenix and have some fun. Most other town seem to enforce the limited contact rules for dances. The gals I have talked to have told me they make better money for doing less in places other than Tucson. Tucson is a great strip club, (***** house) town.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4095857]That does not look like a 19 year old face to me.[/QUOTE]I have 19 inches!
Dropped by the boat at 7. Slow with half a dozen talent, good looking though. Then to venom. Just a few girls, all AA but all fit and trim. Danced with rain, little spinner with a butt built for quarters. Good dances but didn't seem extras avail.
[QUOTE=MaximumSpider;4094261]I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time. We go to private for a few hundred. Still fun. Supposedly she still wants to together on the outside. Okay. Over the next week a handful of flirty texts are sent back and forth, and as soon as I mention actually getting together, she ghosts me again.
Has anybody run into, or had success with, this girl? I assume that I'm being fished for money in some way, but if that's true, then her methods don't make a whole lot of sense and seem like a really good way to make zero money on the side and lose who would be more than happy to be a regular customer in the club itself. She's hot enough to pursue if OTC is on the table, and if there's some hidden way to unlock it, then, please, do tell. Or, is trying to find logic behind the actions of a pothead stripper a fool's errand?[/QUOTE]She doesn't need to see you outside the club, you keep dropping hundreds on her everytime you see her in the club, she's stringing you along, she has no intention of offering OTC.
It's been at least 6 months since I've seen her in the club.
Lovely sword swallowing act and very tasty kitty.
Never went otc as 3 was well above my scale for 1st time otc.
Hope that helps.
On a side note to the phx visitor, you might hit hi liter up your way as it has some fine playmates.
I got a couple table dances from Sasha, a thin tiny white girl, who suggested more could be available in the cabana. I couldn't tell from her table dances if she was cabana worthy or not. PM me intel please.
[QUOTE=ShyNine;4096653]It's been at least 6 months since I've seen her in the club.
Lovely sword swallowing act and very tasty kitty.
Never went otc as 3 was well above my scale for 1st time otc.
Hope that helps.
On a side note to the phx visitor, you might hit hi liter up your way as it has some fine playmates.[/QUOTE]London just texted me that she is working Thursday and Friday at the boat. I guess I better check out her sword swallowing skills. And Karen, the blonde Columbian at the boat told me yesterday that she would massage mr happy until he spit in the Champaign room for a c-note. I told her for that much I got to be tasting the kitty too. ps. she did slide her hand into my shorts to let me know she was serious.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4101624]London just texted me that she is working Thursday and Friday at the boat. I guess I better check out her sword swallowing skills. And Karen, the blonde Columbian at the boat told me yesterday that she would massage mr happy until he spit in the Champaign room for a c-note. I told her for that much I got to be tasting the kitty too. ps. she did slide her hand into my shorts to let me know she was serious.[/QUOTE]Hey let me know if Karen does more than a handy. She is my type of girl beautiful with great attitude and a sexy body made to fuck. Last time I was there I inquired abou OTC she said she need the get to know me better before, I wante to do some private with her but my time was limited.
[QUOTE=Bertlong;4102674]Hey let me know if Karen does more than a handy. She is my type of girl beautiful with great attitude and a sexy body made to fuck. Last time I was there I inquired abou OTC she said she need the get to know me better before, I wante to do some private with her but my time was limited.[/QUOTE]She does not. I've let her give me. A half dozen handys and she still "want to get to know me better". Offered to buy her lunch or dinner to do so but she always refuses.
[QUOTE=TheLadysMan;4103599]She does not. I've let her give me. A half dozen handys and she still "want to get to know me better". Offered to buy her lunch or dinner to do so but she always refuses.[/QUOTE]She told me that she has a boyfriend. But she always has a great attitude. And a butt that is made to ride. She flirts alot and always jokes about me wanting to fook her. But handy seems to be her limit. A little peek at the kitty too.
I've no idea who this person is.
I don't go anywhere to get a handy as I'm the best that I know to get that accomplished with a little internet stimulation.
So, for me, you're wasting precious time and money if that's all you're in for.
I hit the clubs to find playmates.
I hit AMPs for more than a happy hand ending.
I meet escorts for.
That being said, for my tastes, she is a waste of time and taking your money for dances, mind you, and you could get so much more for the cost of said dances.
But we're all here for different reasons and I respect that, so enjoy what you wish.
I want the full monty whatever arena I play in.
And NO I do not pay for sex, for those LE trolls that hang here or not. I pay for services rendered, whatever they may be.
As far as LE trolls are concerned please go after those people who are actually a danger to to the rest of us seeking a little pleasure and comfort in this insane world we live in and let adults be adults.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4104307]She told me that she has a boyfriend. But she always has a great attitude. And a butt that is made to ride. She flirts alot and always jokes about me wanting to fook her. But handy seems to be her limit. A little peek at the kitty too.[/QUOTE]That's too bad because she could have a steady source of income from regulars doing OTC. She is very flirty and the way she looks at you is the look of a girl who likes to fuck and she seem to get crazy.
[QUOTE=Bertlong;4104572]That's too bad because she could have a steady source of income from regulars doing OTC. She is very flirty and the way she looks at you is the look of a girl who likes to fuck and she seem to get crazy.[/QUOTE]Guys,
OTC is a bit tricky. Maybe complicated with some of the girls because of a BF or significant other. But from my experience and I have done lots of OTC in Tucson and other places, the mighty dollar works. Try offering her something she can't refuse. How deep is your pocket? If you are cash worthy and you must have her, I do not see how she will refuse, let us say 2000 at the start of the month when bills are due?
I have done this many times with success, no girl will refuse a huge amount of cash like that. One of you should offer her a huge sum and see if she says yes to OTC. You don't have to go through with it, play her and see if she bites. She is playing all of you by giving you a handy and promising to do after she gets to know you. If she says yes, find an excuse not to do it. What do you have to loose? A handy from a pretty girl? You can get that anyplace.
Cheers,
TM.
[QUOTE=ShyNine;4104419]I've no idea who this person is. [/QUOTE]Karen is an older blond dancer originally from Colombia but raised in Israel. She speaks 3 languages, Spanish, English, and Hebrew. Short, about 5'2 without the heels, extremely curvy and voluptuous. If you are into spinners she definitely is not your cup of tea, I mean we're talking Earl Grey to camomile here. Has a tramp stamp and a smaller tat on the back of her neck. Always dances to electronica or industrial techno when on stage. She was a regular at curves for many years. Haven't talked to her aince she left curves, I'm kinda curious to know what that story is. I've been with her otc but keep in mind I've known her for 20+ years. I will say this, you've got to to something to stimulate her physically if you want a shot at more than a handy. She has to be attracted to you somehow. Rhis can be facilitated with a few drinks. She's told me I'm handsome for many years now and at first I kinda rolled my eyes, I mean come on, a stripper telling a guy he's handsome. But one night she told me she'd prove it and danced for me for free for like 2 hours. And I fucked her that night too. This was in like 1999 I think. And boys you better pack a lunch if you get to take her home or to the Notel Motel, because she is one WILD time. She's going to be a project but the reward is definitely worth it.
Now this review peaks my interest and I am a spinner kinda guy.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Tecolote32;4104802]Karen is an older blond dancer originally from Colombia but raised in Israel. She speaks 3 languages, Spanish, English, and Hebrew. Short, about 5'2 without the heels, extremely curvy and voluptuous. If you are into spinners she definitely is not your cup of tea, I mean we're talking Earl Grey to camomile here. Has a tramp stamp and a smaller tat on the back of her neck. Always dances to electronica or industrial techno when on stage. She was a regular at curves for many years. Haven't talked to her aince she left curves, I'm kinda curious to know what that story is. I've been with her otc but keep in mind I've known her for 20+ years. I will say this, you've got to to something to stimulate her physically if you want a shot at more than a handy. She has to be attracted to you somehow. Rhis can be facilitated with a few drinks. She's told me I'm handsome for many years now and at first I kinda rolled my eyes, I mean come on, a stripper telling a guy he's handsome. But one night she told me she'd prove it and danced for me for free for like 2 hours. And I fucked her that night too. This was in like 1999 I think. And boys you better pack a lunch if you get to take her home or to the Notel Motel, because she is one WILD time. She's going to be a project but the reward is definitely worth it.[/QUOTE]
Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=RoyFolker;4096636]She doesn't need to see you outside the club, you keep dropping hundreds on her everytime you see her in the club, she's stringing you along, she has no intention of offering OTC.[/QUOTE]I swung by last night looking for another girl that I was a fan of (didn't see her, sadly) and Venus was there. I dropped her a tip on stage to see what she'd do, and she made no attempt at conversing with me afterward, as suspected. So, her funds from my wallet have been cut off, obviously, which is why I asked about her. Bad business practices on her end, if you ask me. So, think of my experience as a cautionary tale (or a challenge if you're into that sort of thing). Curves does not sound like the place to go for OTC anyway, from what I've seen on here.
[QUOTE=MotorboatJones;4105202]Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting![/QUOTE]What time of day. Evening or afternoon? Is Miriam just dark skinned or AA?
[QUOTE=ShyNine;4104940]Now this review peaks my interest and I am a spinner kinda guy.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This Kendra is a different Kendra than the one I was talking about.
This was early afternoon on Saturday. I think she is either from Cuba or the Virgin Islands. She had a thick accent and spoke mainly Spanish to me. I'm not certain but I do not think she is AA.
[QUOTE=Achmed46;4106226]What time of day. Evening or afternoon? Is Miriam just dark skinned or AA?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MotorboatJones;4105202]Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting![/QUOTE]MT, do you know if the Tatiana you saw is the same Tatiana that used to work at Venom?
As fr as being caught and getting bounced or someone losing a job, let me say that over the years the rules bend on the players / dancers just like with hardin and james in the nba.
Read into it what you may.
I don't know if she is the same girl. I never saw her at Venom but I am not a frequent flier at the clubs. Goodamn, she looks awesome up on stage but I do not know about her private dance skills.
[QUOTE=Bertlong;4106560]MT, do you know if the Tatiana you saw is the same Tatiana that used to work at Venom?[/QUOTE]
Of course you are correct. I was just quoting Karen. I think this was just her way of getting me to accept the limits of what she was offering.
[QUOTE=ShyNine;4106704]As fr as being caught and getting bounced or someone losing a job, let me say that over the years the rules bend on the players / dancers just like with hardin and james in the nba.
Read into it what you may.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MotorboatJones;4106273]This was early afternoon on Saturday. I think she is either from Cuba or the Virgin Islands. She had a thick accent and spoke mainly Spanish to me. I'm not certain but I do not think she is AA.[/QUOTE]I think I actually met her. If it is the same gal you are referring to. Her accent sounds Jamaican to me. She did two table dances for me, rubbed mr happy a lot and she place my hand between her legs so I could rub mr clitty. A fun time. If it is not the same gal, I still had fun.
That sounds like her standard table dance. She may be Jamaican but she was definitely speaking Spanish to me.
[QUOTE=Gilligan46;4109021]I think I actually met her. If it is the same gal you are referring to. Her accent sounds Jamaican to me. She did two table dances for me, rubbed mr happy a lot and she place my hand between her legs so I could rub mr clitty. A fun time. If it is not the same gal, I still had fun.[/QUOTE]
Back in town from a lengthy work trip. Going to circuit the clubs this weekend. Any recommended new talent at the boat or venom?
I visited Venom after a while being gone. There were about 7 to 9 dancers, I would say about 80 percent were curvy not fat but curvy there was an orintal older gal very petite that did ok dances and AA tall skinny girl but other than that not much. It was also slow not many mongers there.
Moved to Raiders after and say multiple very good looking girls there, the one that I stuck with was Karmen. Very sexy and dance are sensual. We did the private and she did allowed roaming and FOV and handy but nothing else. I think in time if she gets more comfortable with you she may do OTC.
Has any one seen Brittny she use to work at the boat is is she still around and does she still go by Brittny or Roxxy?