Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=TheGoodSh;1973903]No doubt, some jack-off "seniors" will now come forward to attest to THIS girls cred, and say that you have none because you only have 12 posts.

Good work. I don't think she was even remotely attractive enough to go that far into digging, personally. The first few red flags should be enough. But I understand how this kind of detective work is fun and interesting. You might have saved a few guys some trouble.[/QUOTE]TGS-- you really don't have much faith in the board, do you? Just because a person is new doesn't mean he / she is not to be believed or should be harangued by senior members. The guys who have been around know the value of good intel, and we all recognize that at one time, we were noobs too. Those that have been around look at more than just the number of posts. We look at what the posts actually are.

For instance, SecretAgent007 (only 12 posts), he seems to be doing his homework and he is trying really hard to be taken seriously. He has been able to stitch together a narrative from various sources, and put it in a way that would make sense. Tiffany was already on shaky ground and he pretty much nailed it on the head. He has also provided intel on ladies he's seen, and has earned cred. If he had something new to add to the board, I would listen. He may only have 12 posts, but there is quality there.

However, take JohninCinci, and his two posts. Both posts have contributed nothing other than to allege drug use and bash a specific provider. Most noobs' first post is normally seeking advice on a particular provider before making that first tentative dip in the pool. Other firsts have actually been to report on a known provider. If I were to guess, I would venture that the account was created for that sole purpose; to bash Kelly.

The board has seen it all. From new providers try to drum up business by creating a fake account to give a review. Fake photos. Real intel on new providers. Introductions of ladies who were UTR, but not want a larger client base. We have seen it all.

Try to have more faith in the cumulative sum total of the knowledge we have acquired over the years.

The nut. I have offered text messages from Kelly where she says she will do blow in a session. I also have a friend with drug themed texted from her. I posted to protect people who don't want to spend time with a coke head. If you do go ahead but just don't be mislead by a hot girl because she post drug free.

Tha purpose of this board was to exchange information. Sorry I don't have a high enough post count to satisfy you.

[QUOTE=DNut;1974074]TGS-- you really don't have much faith in the board, do you? Just because a person is new doesn't mean he / she is not to be believed or should be harangued by senior members. The guys who have been around know the value of good intel, and we all recognize that at one time, we were noobs too. Those that have been around look at more than just the number of posts. We look at what the posts actually are.

For instance, SecretAgent007 (only 12 posts), he seems to be doing his homework and he is trying really hard to be taken seriously. He has been able to stitch together a narrative from various sources, and put it in a way that would make sense. Tiffany was already on shaky ground and he pretty much nailed it on the head. He has also provided intel on ladies he's seen, and has earned cred. If he had something new to add to the board, I would listen. He may only have 12 posts, but there is quality there.

However, take JohninCinci, and his two posts. Both posts have contributed nothing other than to allege drug use and bash a specific provider. Most noobs' first post is normally seeking advice on a particular provider before making that first tentative dip in the pool. Other firsts have actually been to report on a known provider. If I were to guess, I would venture that the account was created for that sole purpose; to bash Kelly.

The board has seen it all. From new providers try to drum up business by creating a fake account to give a review. Fake photos. Real intel on new providers. Introductions of ladies who were UTR, but not want a larger client base. We have seen it all.

Try to have more faith in the cumulative sum total of the knowledge we have acquired over the years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnInCinci;1974213]The nut. I have offered text messages from Kelly where she says she will do blow in a session. I also have a friend with drug themed texted from her. I posted to protect people who don't want to spend time with a coke head. If you do go ahead but just don't be mislead by a hot girl because she post drug free.

Tha purpose of this board was to exchange information. Sorry I don't have a high enough post count to satisfy you.[/QUOTE]There you go again. Misquoting me. It's not that you don't have a high enough post count, it's that you don't have any quality posts whatsoever. Other than talk about Kelly's alleged drug use, you have zero postings, zero history, and zero contributions. Your ID has been used, not to contribute and share Intel, but to make allegations and accusations about ONE specific provider.

I'm guessing it's personal.

You can offer up text messages all you want, but unless I can have your actual phone and check the log details in the message header, and compare it against the message header of texts I got from Kelly, then I can assume it can be faked. I don't have to be a Photoshop wizard to fake a screen capture.

I have text messages that prove her drug use.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;1972106]I've encouraged Kelly to weigh in here on her own behalf.

The wild claims about her being on drugs are utter nonsense. You'll notice that every one involves vague allegations, and they keep changing.

One minute it's meth, then it's heroin, then it's cocaine. I fully expect a sock puppet user name to declare that Kelly is not answering her emails and texts because she is an al Qaeda operative who is busy making plans to bring the global jihad to Cincinnati.

Here is the truth: Kelly is a "normal" suburban young lady who works a regular white collar job. Her brother and I attended the same high school. (He was much younger than me, of course). I know one of Kelly's grade school classmates through channels that have nothing to do with the hobby. Kelly comes from a two parent, stable, upper middle class family.

So why is Kelly here? Kelly spent some time on the sugar daddy sites in recent years, where several gentlemen (myself included) saw her on an occasional basis. She wanted to increase her side income a bit, and so decided to give this a try.

She was overwhelmed by the volume of texts, and the challenges of verifying clients and scheduling appointments. A number of USAG guys (about 10) have seen her since she placed her ad here last month. But many more have had their texts and calls unreturned.

I'm not going to reveal the nature of Kelly's day job, but I can tell you that it is a professional line of work that requires at least 40 hours per week of attention. As I mentioned before, Kelly probably isn't going to return your text within 15 minutes and set up an appointment for later that day.

Kelly's goal is to cultivate a small following of regulars. I realize that some of you prefer the high volume providers who compete on price and "ready at your beck and call" availability. Kelly isn't going after that market.

As DNut fairly assessed, she isn't for everyone, and her operating procedures are a bit outside the norm here. You may reasonably decide that you would rather see one of the other providers here. There *is* a lot more choice here than there once was, even for super picky guys like me.

All fair and good. But the allegations about Kelly being a drug user or drug dealer (as one sock puppet suggested) are 100% hokum. Ditto for her being a terrorist or escaped convict. I can also assure you that she is not a vampire, werewolf, or witch (as I fully expect her anonymous detractors to become even more creative in the art of unsubstantiated libel).

When Kelly visits me, she usually borrows a book from my extensive personal library. She reads these books and we have intelligent discussions about them. (She last borrowed my copy of "Duma Key" by Stephen King.)

I look for Kelly to drop out of here after she lines up a few regulars.

I personally prefer a lady who *hasn't* seen every guy on the board. (That's why I actually prefer the "sugar baby" websites to the professional provider venue). But again, to each his own.[/QUOTE]

More than willing to meet. I actually offered to meet Todd by pm but haven't heard from him yet. What is a good time for you. Having a someone with no skin in the game to review them make a lot of sense.

P.S. I sent you a pm as well.

[QUOTE=DNut;1974361]There you go again. Misquoting me. It's not that you don't have a high enough post count, it's that you don't have any quality posts whatsoever. Other than talk about Kelly's alleged drug use, you have zero postings, zero history, and zero contributions. Your ID has been used, not to contribute and share Intel, but to make allegations and accusations about ONE specific provider.

I'm guessing it's personal.

You can offer up text messages all you want, but unless I can have your actual phone and check the log details in the message header, and compare it against the message header of texts I got from Kelly, then I can assume it can be faked. I don't have to be a Photoshop wizard to fake a screen capture.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnInCinci;1974625]I have text messages that prove her drug use.[/QUOTE]Even if this is a board about escorts and call girls.

If you have proof, then post it under your real screen name, not an anonymous sock puppet account.

I have some questions for you, and please answer them publicly. (Do *not* pm me again).

Who are you? Why are you here? Why are you *so* determined to defame a woman on this board, that you've created a new user account for that sole purpose? What is your motive? Why is this *so* important to you?

In the meantime, I vote for a new rule regarding drug allegations: This is exactly the sort of nonsense that is going to bring unwanted attention to this board.

I suggest that any public allegations of drug use should have to come from an established screen name, and they should also have to contain specific evidence. This is not the sort of talk that should be tossed around lightly. Nor is it fair to those whose reputations are potentially damaged by such careless aspersions.

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I also banned you, you can't create a secondary user to post shit you don't want to post under your "real" name. None of these names are real.

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[QUOTE=ToddCincy;1972106]I've encouraged Kelly to weigh in here on her own behalf.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Why would you encourage her to do something she's not permitted to do on the forum. Providers aren't allowed to defend here. I'm not taking a side, no providers are EVER allowed to defend. If we didn't hold that line every review thread would devolve into he said/she said.

Guys say what they say, if it's not true they get to be known as liars and people ignore them, as you should have.

This is not subject to debate, this is not my opinion, it's the rules.

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I have never met This provider named Kelly I don't even know where she posts backpage or some other site, I'm just curious what her alleged use of drugs or not has to do with anything. If you are involved in this hobby you have been with a girl on drugs if you say you haven't then you are either naive or lying. As I said I don't know the girl so I don't have a dog in this fight I just think the debate on her drug use is ridiculous. I know this johncinci guy or whatever his name is doesn't have a lot of post but him saying she is on drugs although it may or may not be true it certainly isn't beyond the realm of being possible. And I'm not saying this because he is talking about a provider I'm saying this because the person he said it about is a human being and anybody can fall to the devil known as drugs. Now I don't want to write this and sound like a protector of the guy that initially wrote the allegations I'm writing this from life experiences. Nobody on this board has ever met me but if you did you would be blown away to find out I was once addicted to drugs I have 15 yrs clean a very good job and a very loving family who I took thru hell during my addiction, during the height of my addiction I used with likely suspects and people who hid it so well it blew me away when I found out they were users. I also found out there is life and a very good life after drugs. That is why I'm saying don't be so quick to discount someone's own observation as I said I'm not saying that I believe him because he might have an axe to grind and just decided to defame her, if I saw a post from Kelly and she looked good in her photos this guys post would not stop me from seeing her, nor would her being a drug user if it were true what would stop me is her overall performance and if the drug use was obvious marks on her arm slurred speech or theft. I don't mean to be long winded I just wanted to give my take on this I hope it helps. Be safe guys I'm out.

[QUOTE=JohnInCinci;1974625]I have text messages that prove her drug use.[/QUOTE]A provider that uses drugs! Horrors. Next thing we know is that some members of this board actually pay for sex! Again Horrors. Maybe Cincinnati is a more upright city than Memphis, but in Memphis this post would be greeted with a big yawn. Since we are the fourth most dangerous city in the United States, we have a lot more things to worry about. Like being shot.

I can't find &AMP in the abbreviations. What does it mean.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;1975467]I can't find &AMP in the abbreviations. What does it mean.[/QUOTE]It's a BB code, like HTML, used in coding webpages. Because an ampersand is a special reserved character, if you want to actually display an ampersand, that's what you have to put.

Without the & character, just AMP, it's Asian Massage Parlor.

This may be in the wrong section so if so, please forgive.

Who would you say is the provider who is able to set the most sensual mood / experience for the time shared?

Without experiencing such, my thoughts go to Dawn. Our correspondence highlights her thoughtful side and when the sun, moon and stars align, I hope to experience her.

Who would you say is the most sensual of providers?

[QUOTE=Glockman;1975275]A provider that uses drugs! Horrors. Next thing we know is that some members of this board actually pay for sex! Again Horrors. Maybe Cincinnati is a more upright city than Memphis, but in Memphis this post would be greeted with a big yawn. Since we are the fourth most dangerous city in the United States, we have a lot more things to worry about. Like being shot.[/QUOTE]Glockman,

You know the rules up here in the Queen City. You can post all you want in our friendly little neck of the woods as long as you pay the toll. Toll, you ask? Yep. You only get to hang 'round these parts if ya bring one of them nice warm pics of a local Memphis belle you've taken for a spin. I'm sorry. We love ya lots but you know how it goes. No pic, well, no post.

Now, we're reasonable mongers up here and we're willing to extend some credit. Next post. TWO pics! LOL.

What's that saying: "A Glockman post without pics is like a day without sunshine". Something like that.

Have a great day and stay warm down there friend.

Dz.