Korean Agency PSE / BBFS

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5910078]They will provide outcall to a home, it costs the same as hotel, 100 more than the incall rate, but be aware the driver will be sitting outside your home the whole time.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I know in LA some use to before but outcall is not a big thing in LA probably due to all the traffic so itll be time consuming. But in Vegas 2 years ago I had 1 apartment for myself and bought a condo near spring valley area to rent out. At the time I didn't have anyone renting it so I wanted to use my condo for outcall and when I asked Multiple bookers if they can bring the girls to my condo and they all said no. Instead the bookers asked me if they can use my condo for there girls to use for incall. They told me they would pay me but I declined. Actually 2 of the bookers texted and called me for a good 2 weeks. I wanted to ask them if I can have free sessions as a form of payment and one the bookers called me crazy and hung up lmao!! When I briefly lived in LA I did have kgirls come to my apt on there days off for a fuckfest and it was the same donation as if it was incall and they just kept the money to themselves. The interesting part is. When you see them OTC. They are not in work mode. They are not slutty or don't have that sexy vibe. They tend to talk way too much and they are pretty immature and childish lmao! Kind of turned me off after I came inside there pussy I wanted to tell them to leave but they wanted to stay, hangout and order food. I honestly stopped seeing the ones I saw OTC because the fantasy part of fucking a kgirl disappeared. Now I just fuck them and leave and ignore all there annoying texts. "Hunny I'm so horny book me" "hunny I miss you, I miss your hard cock hurry CUM see me" .. I'm sure we all received msgs like this.

I'm kind of getting bored of kgirls and I want to switch it up and stary seeing Cgirls which I haven't for a minute. But every time I do see a cgirl I regret it because service is sucks. Incall is dirty and smelly. I only had 2 really good experience with cgirls here in Vegas. Almost broke her body and she loved it. If anyone can refer me to some good cgirls let me know. I'm sure I already been to all the cgirl houses but its been a minute.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5910078]They will provide outcall to a home, it costs the same as hotel, 100 more than the incall rate, but be aware the driver will be sitting outside your home the whole time.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the clarification. This will help with planning to schedule with one or two of these girls.

I can't believe the bookers called you crazy; it's a reasonable request. I think it would have been better to accept the money instead of free service, since once people like that start receiving something without having to pay, they start taking it for granted and would most likely have treated your place like crap.

As for the seeing them off the clock, it is such a YMMV situation. I think yours is the most common, where the fantasy is better than the dream. I've had a couple of providers who allowed Greek off the clock, which was awesome, but those arrangements ended pretty quickly, mainly because of how flaky these providers are in their personal lives. I had one that always wanted me to take her to dinner and sometimes there'd be no sex, so I stopped seeing her, since neither of us was actually interested in dating each other. And many other almost / maybe situations that never really worked out. And yes, I've lent a few hundred dollars here and there to providers where they didn't pay me back. In the end though, I've still come out ahead in terms of value received.

(Before anyone asks about the following, I'm sorry, but I cannot share their names.) I currently have one off the clock provider I know in LA who was super clingy at first and would half-joke about us getting married, and I kept firmly telling her no to that, and then she said if I paid for her apartment in LA that I could come see her anytime. Since I only go to LA a couple times a year, that would have been the worst deal ever, so I said no to that right away. She ghosted me for a bit, but now we've settled into an arrangement where she'll allow BBFSCIP MSOG with her when I'm in LA for 200, so that's a pretty good deal for me. There's another off the clock provider I see here who is fantastic. Hot as hell, even when she's not in work mode and just wearing casual clothes. No MSOG, but BBFSCIP, for only $150! Phenomenal. Only downside is that she won't see me as often as I want to see her, but still, at that price, totally fucking worth it!

So for every success, there will be many (many) failures, so it's very YMMV in deciding whether it's worth trying to pursue an off the clock arrangement. In my case, I've gotten lucky (no pun intended) and it's worked out for me, but everyone should definitely be careful.

[QUOTE=WhyOhWhy;5910361]when I asked Multiple bookers if they can bring the girls to my condo and they all said no. Instead the bookers asked me if they can use my condo for there girls to use for incall. They told me they would pay me but I declined. Actually 2 of the bookers texted and called me for a good 2 weeks. I wanted to ask them if I can have free sessions as a form of payment and one the bookers called me crazy and hung up lmao!! When I briefly lived in LA I did have kgirls come to my apt on there days off for a fuckfest and it was the same donation as if it was incall and they just kept the money to themselves. The interesting part is. When you see them OTC. They are not in work mode. They are not slutty or don't have that sexy vibe. They tend to talk way too much and they are pretty immature and childish lmao! Kind of turned me off after I came inside there pussy I wanted to tell them to leave but they wanted to stay, hangout and order food. I honestly stopped seeing the ones I saw OTC because the fantasy part of fucking a kgirl disappeared. Now I just fuck them and leave and ignore all there annoying texts.[/QUOTE]

Slender Japanese cutie she speaks decent English. Definitely not FOTB but very GFE. Doing BBFS. It was worth it. Tightest v I have ever had. Made her O with 69 and once more in mish. 1 cip +1 cim = a grand old time for this guy.

Ya they called me crazy. I'm shocked they didn't ban me lmao. But ya there were times when I was OTC with a Kgirl and we just went out and hung out with other Kgirls and surprisingly a lot of them had boyfriends. And they were ugly nerdy dudes. One time a Kgirl I saw OTC and she started to give me a blowjob and then I started to rub on her click and when I took my hands out of her panties it smelled like fish and got turned off and couldn't get hard so I just told her I can't get hard when I have alcohol in my system LMAO! Man, looking back couple years ago I still can't believe they wanted to hangout OTC. Its not like I'm super rich or buy them gifts. Because I never do and I never ever have more than 5-10 minute conversations with them during paid sessions so I guess I'm handsome?? 100% of the time they were the ones that bought me food and drinks they never ever let me pay. And I'm not saying all this to brag I'm just telling the truth and I'm almost 100% this is common. Especially in LA / SF. But like I said. Its better to just fuck them and keep it business. After awhile it gets annoying and you end up not seeing the kgirls you hangout with OTC because many times you become "friends" and the fantasy for fucking dirty slutty Asians disappears. Like most of yall I'm sure they asked you to marry them for legal papers. Every time I see a new Kgirl they ask me this. I just reply with "can we fuck every second and get free session at your agency with other girls" and they mumble some curse words in Korean and call me "perverted" perverted really? Lmao!

[QUOTE=JackHolly;5911080]I can't believe the bookers called you crazy; it's a reasonable request. I think it would have been better to accept the money instead of free service, since once people like that start receiving something without having to pay, they start taking it for granted and would most likely have treated your place like crap.

As for the seeing them off the clock, it is such a YMMV situation. I think yours is the most common, where the fantasy is better than the dream. I've had a couple of providers who allowed Greek off the clock, which was awesome, but those arrangements ended pretty quickly, mainly because of how flaky these providers are in their personal lives. I had one that always wanted me to take her to dinner and sometimes there'd be no sex, so I stopped seeing her, since neither of us was actually interested in dating each other. And many other almost / maybe situations that never really worked out. And yes, I've lent a few hundred dollars here and there to providers where they didn't pay me back. In the end though, I've still come out ahead in terms of value received.[/QUOTE]

So LTLV is charging 40 for 2 pops, is that a new way to screw your business?

Still getting the details but just heard from a second buddy regarding VAC calling his employer. I have heard this a few times now and it seems their booker will call employer if you make him mad. Of course, the question becomes why did he get mad? Either way, not that I use them much because their girls always seem to be on the chubby side, but officially backing off from this place.

As soon as I get more details. I will pass it on.

[QUOTE=FineDining;5913304]Still getting the details but just heard from a second buddy regarding VAC calling his employer. I have heard this a few times now and it seems their booker will call employer if you make him mad. Of course, the question becomes why did he get mad? Either way, not that I use them much because their girls always seem to be on the chubby side, but officially backing off from this place.

As soon as I get more details. I will pass it on.[/QUOTE]Must have done something stupid like. Not pay?? Or stuck his cock in raw when she said no?? Or use counterfeit money?? There is no reason for a booker to go out of his way and contact someones work place only to risk his business. There has to be good reason for this. And also your semi correct about them having busty, chubby curvy girls lmao! When I want a curvy chubby fuck I go to VAC. I'm glad someone on here noticed this. They do have petite and skinny girls too but the ones I saw were always thicker. All I can say is VAC is always reliable in my opinion. No drama. Just straight to the point. Never had any issues. Only place I had an issue with is ltlv lmao. But at this point I think the ltlv booker and I formed a unique love hate relationship bond. Some days he will ban me some days hell be nice and provide great info. Other days hell just call me randomly and laugh ask how I am doing and hangup. Very interesting character wonder if he fucks his own girls that'll be a dream job. Book clients for girls and fuck your own working girls. If I was a booker I would just book the girls for myself and give myself a big discount and fuck them all day. But that's just me.

[QUOTE=TonyStank123;5913002]So LTLV is charging 40 for 2 pops, is that a new way to screw your business?[/QUOTE]That's pretty disappointing. Is it for all of ltlv did the booker mention it or did the girl try to upsell for it?

[QUOTE=MonLies555;5913599]That's pretty disappointing. Is it for all of ltlv did the booker mention it or did the girl try to upsell for it?[/QUOTE]Booker mentioned, and I argued and he said is standard now anywhere, what's a lie. I will stop using them till that changes.

The other agencies in vegas started doing that last year. Although some of the girls kept doing MSOG with no up charge most require it.

[QUOTE=TonyStank123;5914036]Booker mentioned, and I argued and he said is standard now anywhere, what's a lie. I will stop using them till that changes.[/QUOTE]

Armchair psychology here now, but I think that for most of these girls, they have a subconscious struggle with wanting a "normal" life and having that jive with how much money they make (or can make). Couple that with the fact that most of them have overstayed their visa and are now illegal immigrants with few-to-no legal ways to make money, and they're going to feel stuck / desperate. So they are understandably very self-centered (not necessarily selfish), but also are still human beings who want some sort of "normal" life, even if it's just a dream. Pretty much all the OTC girls I've hung with are way out of my league in terms of looks (I'm not ugly, but I also know I'm not crazy handsome either), but I think the fact that I'm just nice and respectful goes a long way.

Either way, it's very much a YMMV situation, and some of us will get lucky and find that diamond in the rough that is a non-flaky, generous, and considerate provider who wants to actually be with you, but. Most of us probably will not.

[QUOTE=WhyOhWhy;5912105]Ya they called me crazy. I'm shocked they didn't ban me lmao. But ya there were times when I was OTC with a Kgirl and we just went out and hung out with other Kgirls and surprisingly a lot of them had boyfriends. And they were ugly nerdy dudes. One time a Kgirl I saw OTC and she started to give me a blowjob and then I started to rub on her click and when I took my hands out of her panties it smelled like fish and got turned off and couldn't get hard so I just told her I can't get hard when I have alcohol in my system LMAO! Man, looking back couple years ago I still can't believe they wanted to hangout OTC. Its not like I'm super rich or buy them gifts. Because I never do and I never ever have more than 5-10 minute conversations with them during paid sessions so I guess I'm handsome?? 100% of the time they were the ones that bought me food and drinks they never ever let me pay. And I'm not saying all this to brag I'm just telling the truth and I'm almost 100% this is common. Especially in LA / SF. But like I said. Its better to just fuck them and keep it business. After awhile it gets annoying and you end up not seeing the kgirls you hangout with OTC because many times you become "friends" and the fantasy for fucking dirty slutty Asians disappears. Like most of yall I'm sure they asked you to marry them for legal papers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhyOhWhy;5913404]If I was a booker I would just book the girls for myself and give myself a big discount and fuck them all day. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Even if you zeroed out the house fee, that means you'd still have to pay them $200+ each session, wouldn't it? Would still be an expensive dream job, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ombyb;5914282]The other agencies in vegas started doing that last year. Although some of the girls kept doing MSOG with no up charge most require it.[/QUOTE]I used all the local agencies and never been charge till now, it's ridiculous hope no body is paying that.

[QUOTE=TonyStank123;5914036]Booker mentioned, and I argued and he said is standard now anywhere, what's a lie. I will stop using them till that changes.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new its been like this. Why argue? Its a business. Do you argue with mcdonalds because they charge extra if you want to add cheese to your hamburger? (Not sure if this is same situation but you get the idea). Maybe if your handsome and clean and nice the ladies won't upcharge you. I never get upcharged I guess I'm sexy. (Writing this as I'm jerking off to foxys photoshopped picture).