[QUOTE=Stonecoldstan;3671498]Does anyone know if Nikki is still working at Panacea?[/QUOTE]Panacea's response.
She will be missed but chose other endeavors.
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[QUOTE=Stonecoldstan;3671498]Does anyone know if Nikki is still working at Panacea?[/QUOTE]Panacea's response.
She will be missed but chose other endeavors.
[QUOTE=Hotcarl76;3667226]I have spent 15 minutes trying to decode what the hell you are trying to communicate to everyone on the board here.[/QUOTE]If you take a molly and wash it down with a Redbull / Goose, then take a hit of a hybrid. Bluegrass, Kentucky bluegrass, featherbed bent, and northern California sensemilia, it's all clearer that becomes what Jum is, Today of his posting. Eggs.
Luv you man.
[QUOTE=TwoSwizzle;3666426]I was merely trying to say that if there was something that would persuade her to give more, I had a good chance.[/QUOTE]On a 1st meat. You can be a good looking guy who's not stingy on $$ -- but on your 1st meat you can get limited access VS a guy who's not ugly, and the comfort zone has been established after many appts. Comfort zone is a big thing for many. And if you haven't seen them multiple times (nor reports from various people having several repeats), you're not going to really know how much that "door" opens up.
[QUOTE=CarlHannogan;3668089]Saw Mia last week great massage took direction well. She got comfortable right away and rubbed her body all over me during massages. On the flip a lot of teasing witch I asked for allowed me to tf her than I gave here some FIV and after she got off I hoped back on the table for HJ with some dirty talk. The nice thing she kept going after I released and it was amazing sensitive sensation now she is BBW but huge fun bags and a lot of fun 60.60.[/QUOTE]Is BBBJ on the menu?
[QUOTE=DarkGrey;3643129]I'll say this. Blonde25's ass reminds me of a 9 volt battery. You know it's wrong but sooner or later you're going to want to put your tongue on it. And if you do, you're going to get shocked by either one".[/QUOTE]I now know what you mean, took great restrain to not bury my face in that!
I just saw a ad for west side massage on butterworth.
Keep hearing about her. Can someone PM or let me know contact info. If you are headed to Tampa area for a winter break, let me know, I can hook you up with the best provider down there.
Best parlor for me? Looking for around $50-$200 with no I'd and little communication. Or if there's a better option I am down to hear it. Please PM me contact info, whag to say, etc. Thanks!! (FYI I am new).
I'm thinking now, after extensive research, of seeing blonde25 in the near future. Can someone give me a detailed experience? What information did you have to provide? What did you say in the text conversations? Also, this is my first time. How did you pay her and when did you? What service do you recommend? And do you just walk in and start the massage or is there a front desk? Please explain how your visit with her went. Thanks a lot! (Yes I have read other reviews on her, I just want specifics).
[QUOTE=Twolves1;3678162]I'm thinking now, after extensive research, of seeing blonde25 in the near future. Can someone give me a detailed experience? What information did you have to provide? What did you say in the text conversations? Also, this is my first time. How did you pay her and when did you? What service do you recommend? And do you just walk in and start the massage or is there a front desk? Please explain how your visit with her went. Thanks a lot! (Yes I have read other reviews on her, I just want specifics).[/QUOTE]In this hobby you do some research and then dive in Head first. Text her to set up an appointment. Go see her. Then report your fun here on the Forum!
[QUOTE=Twolves1;3678125]Best parlor for me? Looking for around $50-$200 with no I'd and little communication. Or if there's a better option I am down to hear it. Please PM me contact info, whag to say, etc. Thanks!! (FYI I am new).[/QUOTE]I realize you are new but by doing a little research I know there are several well written tutorials on the information you seek. Then again, there is a lot of fun (excitement) by just diving in (the MP will guide you through the process). BTW if you are paying 50 don't expect much more than a massage (a bad one at that) and if you are paying 200 you better be getting FS from a hot babe.
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3678474]In this hobby you do some research and then dive in Head first. Text her to set up an appointment. Go see her. Then report your fun here on the Forum![/QUOTE]Alright, I will! Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;3678504]I realize you are new but by doing a little research I know there are several well written tutorials on the information you seek. Then again, there is a lot of fun (excitement) by just diving in (the MP will guide you through the process). BTW if you are paying 50 don't expect much more than a massage (a bad one at that) and if you are paying 200 you better be getting FS from a hot babe.[/QUOTE]Lmao alright, and this is a lot cheaper than I was expecting (compared to escorts).
I'm sorry if this comes off as spamming, but one more question. I contacted Blonde25 and she said "tips are appreciated" after the prices. So does this mean the hh price is to get in and a HJ is extra or something? I read experienced people saying they're good tippers or whatever, is this code for something else? Or do you really tip more or less based off of satisfaction? If so, how much is appropriate? Thanks for your time, guys.
[QUOTE=TWolves1;3678774]I'm sorry if this comes off as spamming, but one more question. I contacted Blonde25 and she said "tips are appreciated" after the prices. So does this mean the hh price is to get in and a HJ is extra or something? I read experienced people saying they're good tippers or whatever, is this code for something else? Or do you really tip more or less based off of satisfaction? If so, how much is appropriate? Thanks for your time, guys.[/QUOTE]The quoted amount if for HHR that includes the finish. If you want to tip more that's up to you.
Was in GR this evening, it is unusual for me to be prowling about in the evening especially on a Friday so I was not expecting to succeed in getting an appointment. But I attempted anyway, I contacted Brittany and much to my surprise Latina was available. A few texts and some direction and I was awaiting her call to direct me to her location. I was even more pleased when someone else failed to keep their appointment and I was offered a duo with both of these beautiful ladies. I like the upfront all inclusive pricing as the door fee / tip system tends to leave more questions then answers.
The appointment was amazing, they both have impressive massage skills, I would say comparable to an average certified massage. Neither were shy about parting with garments and allowing some pleasurable roaming. I'm an ass man and I was not dissapointed with either of theirs (there is something fantastic about having one in each hand). The flip was well served and I look forward to a return visit (likely try out each of them solo in the near future). Damage was 160 each and I received slightly over the scheduled hour. If they offered FS I would likely end up emptying my bank account. Even though it was not FS the overall experience was very pleasing and I would recommend.
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3679349]Was in GR this evening, it is unusual for me to be prowling about in the evening especially on a Friday so I was not expecting to succeed in getting an appointment. But I attempted anyway, I contacted Brittany and much to my surprise Latina was available. A few texts and some direction and I was awaiting her call to direct me to her location. I was even more pleased when someone else failed to keep their appointment and I was offered a duo with both of these beautiful ladies. I like the upfront all inclusive pricing as the door fee / tip system tends to leave more questions then answers.
The appointment was amazing, they both have impressive massage skills, I would say comparable to an average certified massage. Neither were shy about parting with garments and allowing some pleasurable roaming. I'm an ass man and I was not dissapointed with either of theirs (there is something fantastic about having one in each hand). The flip was well served and I look forward to a return visit (likely try out each of them solo in the near future). Damage was 160 each and I received slightly over the scheduled hour. If they offered FS I would likely end up emptying my bank account. Even though it was not FS the overall experience was very pleasing and I would recommend.[/QUOTE]You paid 320 for a session that didn't go beyond a nude HJ?
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;3679832]You paid 320 for a session that didn't go beyond a nude HJ?[/QUOTE]I sure as hell hope not!
It's hard to believe there are no reports on her, as I've seen her ads a lot. Was there a name change or something? Any info is appreciated.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/jessica-b/44134587[/URL]
Thanks for the report but come on man 320 $?
LEARN TO NEGOTIATE and stop supporting GPS.
We all don't plan to empty our bank accounts.
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3679349]Was in GR this evening, it is unusual for me to be prowling about in the evening especially on a Friday so I was not expecting to succeed in getting an appointment. But I attempted anyway, I contacted Brittany and much to my surprise Latina was available. A few texts and some direction and I was awaiting her call to direct me to her location. I was even more pleased when someone else failed to keep their appointment and I was offered a duo with both of these beautiful ladies. I like the upfront all inclusive pricing as the door fee / tip system tends to leave more questions then answers.
The appointment was amazing, they both have impressive massage skills, I would say comparable to an average certified massage. Neither were shy about parting with garments and allowing some pleasurable roaming. I'm an ass man and I was not dissapointed with either of theirs (there is something fantastic about having one in each hand). The flip was well served and I look forward to a return visit (likely try out each of them solo in the near future). Damage was 160 each and I received slightly over the scheduled hour. If they offered FS I would likely end up emptying my bank account. Even though it was not FS the overall experience was very pleasing and I would recommend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeniorChapo;3679891]Thanks for the report but come on man 320 $?
LEARN TO NEGOTIATE and stop supporting GPS.
We all don't plan to empty our bank accounts.[/QUOTE]A couple of things. 1.) My negotiation skills are just fine, some things go better when you don't haggle. Beating down someone's price tends to beat down their service. If you don't like the price then you are free to go to the discount store. 2.) The way I see it I paid $160 for two appointments that happened at the same time. It was my choice to see them both at the same time. $160 is a reasonable rate for a QUALITY hour. 3.) GPS in my book happens when there is one price to get you in the door then a massive up sell to finish the job. That pisses me off. 4.) In my book it's about the overall experience not just the finish. 5.) I would rather see someone that charges a slightly higher price and has less clients than to be one of the hundreds through the revolving door.
In closing take my report as you may, you are free to see whoever you like and pick the cheapest available. But in my eyes you get what you pay for and I choose to not be a cheap bastard when it comes to this side of my life.
To each their own.
C. S. Out.
Where or who can I go to for massage with FS? What price range am I looking at? Also I'm 25. What's with all the ladies not wanting young guys? Is being 25 such a bad thing?
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3679967]It was my choice to see them both at the same time. $160 is a reasonable rate for a QUALITY hour.
But in my eyes you get what you pay for and I choose to not be a cheap bastard when it comes to this side of my life.
To each their own.
C. S. Out.[/QUOTE]In your earlier post you said $160 each, at 2 girls that would be $320 total. Not $160 total. That's why Monger's heads exploded. Proof Reading is every Monger's friend.
And being a " cheap bastard" is in the eye of the beholder.
[QUOTE=HagStrom;3679866]It's hard to believe there are no reports on her, as I've seen her ads a lot. Was there a name change or something? Any info is appreciated.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/jessica-b/44134587[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's my experiences with her. First time I showed up, no show on her part. Texted that didn't think I made it clear I confirmed. Chalked it up to maybe a miscommunication. Second time, waited 20 minutes, but had a good experience. Third time waited 25 minutes, but had a good experience. Fourth time, she was a no show; texted was tied up with "business", even though we had set up appointment less than 2 hrs prior. Don't know if I'm on the so called "naughty" list, or tipped to low (60/60), or what. After one session, she did state that she enjoyed the session and my company. Pics are accurate, office in large factory converted to offices in decent area on Monroe. Was hoping to make her a regular, but have not been back.
Saw Linda the other night at pacific. Walked in and luck of the draw. I had a great experience with her. Massage was good and the ending was fantastic. In talking with her she told me that she will no longer be at pacific after today and is now the new owner at wonder massage. Not sure if she meant new worker there or what but wanted to pass along the information.
[QUOTE=MrCruzer;3680732]Here's my experiences with her. First time I showed up, no show on her part. Texted that didn't think I made it clear I confirmed. Chalked it up to maybe a miscommunication. Second time, waited 20 minutes, but had a good experience. Third time waited 25 minutes, but had a good experience. Fourth time, she was a no show; texted was tied up with "business", even though we had set up appointment less than 2 hrs prior. Don't know if I'm on the so called "naughty" list, or tipped to low (60/60), or what. After one session, she did state that she enjoyed the session and my company. Pics are accurate, office in large factory converted to offices in decent area on Monroe. Was hoping to make her a regular, but have not been back.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Sounds like massage with escort-level reliability issues. Any description of the service you could share? Cheers.
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3679967]A couple of things. 1.) My negotiation skills are just fine, some things go better when you don't haggle. Beating down someone's price tends to beat down their service. If you don't like the price then you are free to go to the discount store. 2.) The way I see it I paid $160 for two appointments that happened at the same time. It was my choice to see them both at the same time. $160 is a reasonable rate for a QUALITY hour. 3.) GPS in my book happens when there is one price to get you in the door then a massive up sell to finish the job. That pisses me off. 4.) In my book it's about the overall experience not just the finish. 5.) I would rather see someone that charges a slightly higher price and has less clients than to be one of the hundreds through the revolving door.
In closing take my report as you may, you are free to see whoever you like and pick the cheapest available. But in my eyes you get what you pay for and I choose to not be a cheap bastard when it comes to this side of my life.
To each their own.
C. S. Out.[/QUOTE]My comment was not directed so much at the $320 but for the services received and the providers involved. It is widely known that B25 (and her friend) charge $80/ hr and tips are welcome but not required. From all reports the services have not altered regardless of the tip. From my conversations with her she makes it clear the $80 is a flat for everything. Correct me guys if that is no longer the case.But even with your logic you paid too much. It is "industry standard" that duos are never double the single price. From all accounts I might be tempted to pay what you did if I got even a BBBJ from one or both but a nude HJ? I get your problems with negotiating and generally agree but you can arrive at a reasonable rate without the pitfalls you mentioned. The problem your fellow mongers are trying to point out is that this kind of generosity from someone with resources can cause unnecessary rate inflation for others not so blessed.
I concur. If I got a sexy massage from both and it ended with some oral and some cleanup by either girl with their tongues, I could see 250, but $320 for a doube HJ and then be proud of it. What a dope. We all have extra $$ if you are hobbying, but this gives B25 the confidence that she doesn't have to start putting out to continually get $$ Its like the non-nude pics of smoking hot chicks from the 90's internet days. The tease was great but at some point if the chick is not going to get naked, or in this case, gargle on my sausage sauce, we move on to the next conquest.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;3680853]My comment was not directed so much at the $320 but for the services received and the providers involved. It is widely known that B25 (and her friend) charge $80/ hr and tips are welcome but not required. From all reports the services have not altered regardless of the tip. From my conversations with her she makes it clear the $80 is a flat for everything. Correct me guys if that is no longer the case.But even with your logic you paid too much. It is "industry standard" that duos are never double the single price. From all accounts I might be tempted to pay what you did if I got even a BBBJ from one or both but a nude HJ? I get your problems with negotiating and generally agree but you can arrive at a reasonable rate without the pitfalls you mentioned. The problem your fellow mongers are trying to point out is that this kind of generosity from someone with resources can cause unnecessary rate inflation for others not so blessed.[/QUOTE]
I kinda get where some guys are coming from but when its all said and done you are just paying for a nutt. Dumping extra $$ in isn't going to make any difference most the time. I mean you can be generous and they might lick or tug you a little more passionately but that's it. Giving them extra isn't going to make or break them.
It seems like guys with a lot of money dump a lot of change on these chicks expect some type of exclusivity. But really all their doing is fucking up the game.
[QUOTE=DerickSaunders;3680766]Saw Linda the other night at pacific. Walked in and luck of the draw. I had a great experience with her. Massage was good and the ending was fantastic. In talking with her she told me that she will no longer be at pacific after today and is now the new owner at wonder massage. Not sure if she meant new worker there or what but wanted to pass along the information.[/QUOTE]Linda bought Wonder from Cindy. Cindy is moving out of the state. Would someone please describe Linda? Thanks.
Cindy will be there only until the end of the month. She has the absolute best tease technique of anyone I've ever seen. If you've never seen her, do yourself a favor and partake at least once. I'm sorry to see her go; many providers could learn from her and improve their game.
Saw new girl Tammy there last time. Not young, not great looking, ok figure, limited English; but had a really good attitude and really tried to please. No shortage on time: 60 minutes door to door.
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;3680853]My comment was not directed so much at the $320 but for the services received and the providers involved. It is widely known that B25 (and her friend) charge $80/ hr and tips are welcome but not required. From all reports the services have not altered regardless of the tip. From my conversations with her she makes it clear the $80 is a flat for everything. Correct me guys if that is no longer the case.But even with your logic you paid too much. It is "industry standard" that duos are never double the single price. From all accounts I might be tempted to pay what you did if I got even a BBBJ from one or both but a nude HJ? I get your problems with negotiating and generally agree but you can arrive at a reasonable rate without the pitfalls you mentioned. The problem your fellow mongers are trying to point out is that this kind of generosity from someone with resources can cause unnecessary rate inflation for others not so blessed.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out about about C. S. And his experience. IMO it isn't GPS because they are known rates and they haven't changed since she was in the business.
Who said "industry standard" is less than 2 x. Every time I have been quoted on a duo it was exactly 2 x or at times higher. I am not one to advocate for specific providers but people seem to get butt hurt over B25 and I'm not sure why.
Happy hunting!
FYI, her rates are 80hhr, not hr. Hour is double so CS paid what they advertise.
People were freaking out because his 1st report read that he paid EACH LADY $160! That's why!
If Mongers RTFF and proof read before posting, it would make things easier for everyone! But most Mongers are too fucking lazy to read and comprehend or proof read before posting!
[QUOTE]People were freaking out because his 1st report read that he paid EACH LADY $160! That's why![/QUOTE]She charges 2 x the standard amt for a hhr ($40 to $80). There hasn't been a complaint on that, since that includes tip -- it does everything amazingly, short of a BJ. I assume getting into BJ or more, that's where the tip would have to factor in.
So factor in not tipping if you're getting as high quality, grand experience as you can find with everything short of a BJ -- when comparing prices. It's a 40/40 for that. Okay.
The real problem is going to the Hour. Standard amt is $60 -- 50% larger than hhr. She charges 100% more than hhr, for an hour! Damn skippy nobody should be tipping if they do that. Say he goes to a great one at a parlor who's about as good as she. And pays $60/60 for an hour. That's not a shocker when they're "the bomb". But, it's still $40 cheaper, due to the larger price for an hour. THAT is the real problem.
B25 Duo for HHR: $80+$80 = $160 total.
Duo for HHR at a parlor: $40/40 + $40/40 = $160 total.
A hhr is FINE. However. An hour? Oh no, that's where the prices are Wow. Better At Least be getting more than one pop in there, or a CBJ at least to boot. Otherwise that's Total highway robbery, just not expensive as hell.
B25 Duo for HR: $160+$160 = $320 total.
Hot Duo for HR at a parlor: $60/60 + $60/60 = $240 total (If you were to tip each $100 instead, which would match B25 price -- you'd be getting more than a titty-fvck).
So in the end, for the HOUR DUO price -- no, the "you get what you pay for" is not very applicable if you're not crossing the BJ plane. And if you're only getting 1 pop -- for all things that are holey, go for the HHR! *smile*.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/jessica-b-%E2%80%8D/44134587[/URL]
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3679967]A couple of things. 1.) My negotiation skills are just fine, some things go better when you don't haggle. Beating down someone's price tends to beat down their service. If you don't like the price then you are free to go to the discount store. 2.) The way I see it I paid $160 for two appointments that happened at the same time. It was my choice to see them both at the same time. $160 is a reasonable rate for a QUALITY hour. 3.) GPS in my book happens when there is one price to get you in the door then a massive up sell to finish the job. That pisses me off. 4.) In my book it's about the overall experience not just the finish. 5.) I would rather see someone that charges a slightly higher price and has less clients than to be one of the hundreds through the revolving door.
In closing take my report as you may, you are free to see whoever you like and pick the cheapest available. But in my eyes you get what you pay for and I choose to not be a cheap bastard when it comes to this side of my life.
To each their own.
C. S. Out.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I can tick off both sides here- 1. Charlie can tip or pay whatever he wants as long as the provider will accept that. Just because I might tip a waitress 30% doesn't mean she will provide worse service to the rest. In fact, she might provide better service because she feels better about her job. 2. If I tip less than Charlie that doesn't make me a cheap bastard.
This isn't all that big of a deal. I'm going to chill.
CS, you wouldn't happen to be looking for investment property in southern Florida by chance, would you? I need to replenish my monger money with a short sale.
I believe there are a few reviews a few posts back!
[QUOTE=Naughty12;3682016]CS, you wouldn't happen to be looking for investment property in southern Florida by chance, would you? I need to replenish my monger money with a short sale.[/QUOTE]I do a fair amount of real estate investing. But just like in my monger habits prefer a quality piece. I don't like to play in swamps they tend to be stinky and full of who knows what.
On a side note went back to B25 today for a solo hour. It was great, I even tipped. Hopefully it keeps her from becoming a swamp buggy.
[QUOTE=CharlieSunrise;3682310]I do a fair amount of real estate investing. But just like in my monger habits prefer a quality piece. I don't like to play in swamps they tend to be stinky and full of who knows what.
On a side note went back to B25 today for a solo hour. It was great, I even tipped. Hopefully it keeps her from becoming a swamp buggy.[/QUOTE]I'm convinced! P. T. BARNUM was right! I'm quitting my day trading job and looking for duo partners.