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[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3365041]Gents, a couple of big questions:

Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?

Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?

This issue haunts me, by the way.[/QUOTE]I've traveled to places with extreme poverty, we are no where near there nor do I see us going there unless something crazy happens (emp, revolution, ww3, ettc). For us living here it's hard to even conceive what those places are like unless you have been there. To give context, I had a friend who had an 8 or 9 year old offer him sex for the equivalent of 10 dollars, and then her 12 yo friend tried to underbid her and they fought each over who was going with him. This was in public, in a busy market, and no one batted an eye or seemed to think there was an issue. My friend neither asked nor wanted anything of the sort, but apparently it was normal for them.

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[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3365041]Gents, a couple of big questions:

Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?

Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?

This issue haunts me, by the way.[/QUOTE]Funny in that I look at this from a different angle (and with some exceptions, I shy away from cheap BP stuff; SBs and whatever.) It's not the lack of income but the lifestyle. Half these girls arrive in nice, new cars. Breast augmentation, manicures, waxing, phones, clothing. And a few beautiful, well decorated, expensive homes. In many cases they choose to do this to live lives more comfortably than I do.

There is a lot of "easy" money to be made for a reasonably attractive female. It's their expensive material life. Or drugs.

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All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.

I see what you are saying. The days of the 60 K a year Union factory job with only a high school diploma are largely behind us. That said, this country is still highly developed and there is a ton of opportunity. This is proven again and again by Asian-Americans who have the highest average income and educational attainment of any US ethnic group. They work hard, save money, listen and do and well in school, and get the training they need for rewarding careers. And they are most thinly represented on the streets homeless, in jail, or in drug rehab centers. It comes down to choices and rolling with the changes. No the US is not becoming 3rd World.

The fact that so many women are in the sex trade does not make us a 3rd world nation. We are naive to how prevalent this game has been over the years. Social media only brings it more attention while also making the women who would be doing it anyways more available (when they actually pick up the phone).

I have worked out the economics of it before and a girl who was drug-free and did not have a Gucci-fetish could easily clear $50 K a year tax free by only 'working' three days a week for 2-3 hours. The problem is several of the BP girls are drug dependent, which means their disposable income evaporates every time they need a hit. I have met a few ladies who are now retired from the game who clearly did it for the disposable income, to allow them to buy nice clothes and take nice trips. Throw in a sugar daddy and you are living comfortably, tax free. These women can afford to be more selective with their clientele because the right clientele will pay a premium for what they can offer over the ladies on the other side of the spectrum.

So no, the current status of the sex trade does not make us 3rd world and until women are more openly selling without fear of repercussion, this will not be the case.

[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3365041]Gents, a couple of big questions:

Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?

Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?

This issue haunts me, by the way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3365041]Gents, a couple of big questions:

Do you guys feel that our country is moving to 3rd world nation status given the fact that so many ladies (young, middle age, and more mature ones) have taken up the sex trade?

Is this a reflection of an economy that is in a tailspin (very poor economic opportunities)?

This issue haunts me, by the way.[/QUOTE]I think that is what you mean. In most developed countries the sex trade is legal and regulated and if not legal then a minor offense.

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All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wow!! That would definitely redefine the term!

[QUOTE=BobbSledd;3366240]Wow!! That would definitely redefine the term![/QUOTE]Her spinning around on your johnson, It's to die for Or from.

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All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.[/QUOTE]I thought I knew what color blonde was. LOL.

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All this time I thought I understood the term. LOL.[/QUOTE]It's all relative, Amigo. If you're personally sporting a "telephone pole" down there, or your nickname is "Trigger", then she could qualify as a S P I N N E R.

None of that has anything to do with economic development but puritanical ethics that are found at the heart of US culture. That combined with feminism, strange bed fellows for sure but often the far left and right go full circle and come together. .

[QUOTE=Jeep95;3366217]I think that is what you mean. In most developed countries the sex trade is legal and regulated and if not legal then a minor offense.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cjojax904;3366094]The fact that so many women are in the sex trade does not make us a 3rd world nation. We are naive to how prevalent this game has been over the years. Social media only brings it more attention while also making the women who would be doing it anyways more available (when they actually pick up the phone).

I have worked out the economics of it before and a girl who was drug-free and did not have a Gucci-fetish could easily clear $50 K a year tax free by only 'working' three days a week for 2-3 hours. The problem is several of the BP girls are drug dependent, which means their disposable income evaporates every time they need a hit. I have met a few ladies who are now retired from the game who clearly did it for the disposable income, to allow them to buy nice clothes and take nice trips. Throw in a sugar daddy and you are living comfortably, tax free. These women can afford to be more selective with their clientele because the right clientele will pay a premium for what they can offer over the ladies on the other side of the spectrum.

So no, the current status of the sex trade does not make us 3rd world and until women are more openly selling without fear of repercussion, this will not be the case.[/QUOTE]Just a a quick question on clearing $50 K, did you figure in expenses? Most live in hotels which is a huge hit right off the top.

[QUOTE=RedTalon;3367188]Just a a quick question on clearing $50 K, did you figure in expenses? Most live in hotels which is a huge hit right off the top.[/QUOTE]I have had a few discussions with high end providers that I have known for years about economics. It usually starts when I ask them why are they still doing the humpy bump for a living after 10+ years. Setting aside the usual male issues, (when they pick a guy to really date, it is always the WRONG guy) many of them have commented on the money, approaching or exceeding 6 figures even when they hit the 40's. They net out 5 K a week on road trips and work a couple weeks a month. Yes they have overhead, but the travel circuit is to or near places they want to go. An attractive woman without the monkey on her back, or a man in her wallet can net 50+ based upon what they tell me.

[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3367330]I have had a few discussions with high end providers that I have known for years about economics. It usually starts when I ask them why are they still doing the humpy bump for a living after 10+ years. Setting aside the usual male issues, (when they pick a guy to really date, it is always the WRONG guy) many of them have commented on the money, approaching or exceeding 6 figures even when they hit the 40's. They net out 5 K a week on road trips and work a couple weeks a month. Yes they have overhead, but the travel circuit is to or near places they want to go. An attractive woman without the monkey on her back, or a man in her wallet can net 50+ based upon what they tell me.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if you all ever heard of Aussie Amber from south Florida- some years ago. She and husband were arrested for tax evasion or something as she was escorting. I think LEO dubbed the husband as her pimp. Anyway, she was charging between 350-400/ hour. They said she was making 200 k plus per year. Perhaps she was really hustling more than the average girl but it's certainly possible. Though I still wouldn't call it disposable income for most girls, as someone mentioned. To me, disposable income is when one is able to pay his or her normal bills with the income they make from a regular job but they might work either overtime or some other job just to tend to other extracurricular activities. Most people just can't make it on the money they make from regular employment. With a lot of these girls, they don't possess the skill set or education to get the type of legal jobs that can take care of their basic needs.