"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Marmong;4668775]She loves him and her lips are now reserved for his cock and his cock only.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about my cock Marmong. I have chicks for that.

This might have been mentioned before, but I've got a stratagy we all need to do. Next time you get a chic on the line that you know is a scammer wanting money for nothing, waste as much time of theirs as you can. String them along, dangle the carrot, even pretend you will meet them and just give them free shit. Maybe if we waste enough of their time, they will get the fuck off the site. Plus its a little entertaining.

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;4668974]Whats money up front and gas money, so she doesn't get screwed over. LMAO.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b5c9ad73-9a03-4e3d-a1cc-0ad8bd23fd91[/URL][/QUOTE]I agree. This chick is a total scammer. A buddy of mine was scheduled with her for an intimate meet this morning. Right before the meetup she requested $50 for gas money. She apparently scammed him this morning when he sent her $50 for gas money and never showed up. He asked me to message her as if I'm interested to see if she would request the same thing. Sure enough, she was very interested and requested $50 for gas money before an intimate meetup.

I reported on this chick last week! The best reason to read the forum is for info on the obvious scammers. I totally understand someone keeping a good SB to themselves, but please out the scammers. I'm sorry your friend got hosed for the $50. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER send money up front for ANY reason. I say this having been taken advantage of more times than I care to admit.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=MatteoRusso;4669142]I agree. This chick is a total scammer. A buddy of mine was scheduled with her for an intimate meet this morning. Right before the meetup she requested $50 for gas money. She apparently scammed him this morning when he sent her $50 for gas money and never showed up. He asked me to message her as if I'm interested to see if she would request the same thing. Sure enough, she was very interested and requested $50 for gas money before an intimate meetup.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4668580][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/19d20037-2dde-417e-ad11-a394b5e32590[/URL]

Gee whez, I really miss Backpage.[/QUOTE]Dummy blocked me cause I wanted PPM instead of an allowance. Who wants to give these women allowances for the chance of fucking? Fuck that.

Saw her on SA and decided to message her just for fun to see what her modus operandi was. It was extremely obvious she was a scammer, she wanted to do a ppm right way and when I asked her to send a couple of pictures of herself she sent 2 of a famous model / instagram celebrity LOL. As soon as I did a reverse lookup of the photo she sent, I was able to expose her and she went dead silent. Guys, always do a reverse lookup of photos, if you have some doubts ask her to send a custom made photo. And to reiterate, think with your big head and don't ever send money before meeting up.

Most likely this is some random dude scamming.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;4669494]I reported on this chick last week! The best reason to read the forum is for info on the obvious scammers. I totally understand someone keeping a good SB to themselves, but please out the scammers. I'm sorry your friend got hosed for the $50. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER send money up front for ANY reason. I say this having been taken advantage of more times than I care to admit.

Good Hunting!

Travelin.[/QUOTE]

Lemons467.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3d6a8337-db91-4011-9d1c-90d4e44e186e[/URL]

Here's her response to my first message:

Hey! I'm here for a new arrangement, hopefully something ongoing. I can host or meet, and ideally I want something casual, but fun. Before I meet you I require help with my phone bill which I need $80 for. That is a deal breaker for me and not something I am going to go back and forth on. It's not only for communication but for safety too. Let me know if you're down and we can go from there!

Hahahahaha!

Good hunting!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;4671183]Lemons467.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3d6a8337-db91-4011-9d1c-90d4e44e186e[/URL]

Here's her response to my first message:

Hey! I'm here for a new arrangement, hopefully something ongoing. I can host or meet, and ideally I want something casual, but fun. Before I meet you I require help with my phone bill which I need $80 for. That is a deal breaker for me and not something I am going to go back and forth on. It's not only for communication but for safety too. Let me know if you're down and we can go from there!

Hahahahaha!

Good hunting!

Travelin.[/QUOTE]Same message to me. I said OK and she sounded shocked. Really? Then I blocked her.

Either she's blocked me or took her profile down.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33f4a662-7d10-47a9-b799-8b6a51499844?&locale=en_US[/URL]

Cute 18 year old.

We set a price and agreed to meet the next day. She had a long drive so I was already thinking the odds were against me. Anyways, she texts me that morning to confirm our meet up, so I'm feeling my chances are pretty good now.

We had alreday agreed on 6:30. After thinking about traffic I offered her 5:30 or 7:30 to avoid it. She replied 6:30 was fine. So, I'm again thinking 50/50 on showing up.

Of course, she's a no show.

Message today was she was sorry and her sleep was fucked up becasuse she was off her meds?

WTF, I've only been doing this for less than a week and I'm getting sick of it.

She got cold feet and she didn't block you, just deleted her profile. Happens more often than you'd think, I put myself in their shoes and I would be pretty scared to show up at some random dude's house LOL. But she should've at least had the courtesy of letting you she wasn't going to make it.

To avoid cold feet, I always offer to drive somewhere near them and in a public place, it takes a lot of work but it's important to build some trust beforehand instead of asking them to come fuck you at a hotel or your place.

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4672310]Either she's blocked me or took her profile down.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33f4a662-7d10-47a9-b799-8b6a51499844?&locale=en_US[/URL]

Cute 18 year old.

We set a price and agreed to meet the next day. She had a long drive so I was already thinking the odds were against me. Anyways, she texts me that morning to confirm our meet up, so I'm feeling my chances are pretty good now.

We had alreday agreed on 6:30. After thinking about traffic I offered her 5:30 or 7:30 to avoid it. She replied 6:30 was fine. So, I'm again thinking 50/50 on showing up.

Of course, she's a no show.

Message today was she was sorry and her sleep was fucked up becasuse she was off her meds?

WTF, I've only been doing this for less than a week and I'm getting sick of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4672310]Either she's blocked me or took her profile down.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33f4a662-7d10-47a9-b799-8b6a51499844?&locale=en_US[/URL]

Cute 18 year old.

[/QUOTE]

[B]Profile Not Available[/B]—This member's profile can no longer be found. The member might have deactivated their account, been suspended, blocked you, or been blocked by you.

[I]Safe mongering and sugaring![/I]

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4672310]Either she's blocked me or took her profile down.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33f4a662-7d10-47a9-b799-8b6a51499844?&locale=en_US[/URL]

Cute 18 year old.

We set a price and agreed to meet the next day. She had a long drive so I was already thinking the odds were against me. Anyways, she texts me that morning to confirm our meet up, so I'm feeling my chances are pretty good now.

We had alreday agreed on 6:30. After thinking about traffic I offered her 5:30 or 7:30 to avoid it. She replied 6:30 was fine. So, I'm again thinking 50/50 on showing up.

Of course, she's a no show.

Message today was she was sorry and her sleep was fucked up becasuse she was off her meds?

WTF, I've only been doing this for less than a week and I'm getting sick of it.[/QUOTE]Hey, I feel your pain bro. That place is like work.

I've tried SA 3 or 4 times over the last 4 years or so.

I did meet a few ladies in early 2019, but just never made the connection I was looking for.

Late last year did it for me with all of the scammers and increase of fake profiles and bots that SA uses.

Won't be giving them any more of my money.

Whatever you do, don't fall for the cash ap upfront thing. I've read about guys on here getting ripped. Hard to believe they would send money in advance to these con artists.

[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;4672974][B]Profile Not Available[/B]This member's profile can no longer be found. The member might have deactivated their account, been suspended, blocked you, or been blocked by you.

[I]Safe mongering and sugaring![/I][/QUOTE]Yeah her profile is gone. If she deactivated her account and you two messaged her screen name will still show. If she's deleted her account it changes the name on messages to "sugar baby". That's what I've noticed over the time I've been on the site. Stay safe,

Bob.

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4667939]Any news on this one. Trying to arrange a meet.

Queenoflove.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e520b639-a219-427a-a412-009ec6193c32[/URL]

This one wants rent and shopping money. LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/909ebd73-9110-4de7-b047-8575f8c33394[/URL][/QUOTE]Queenoflove has extreme gps. Wants 500 per meet.

[QUOTE=LazaroRosales;4672949]She got cold feet and she didn't block you, just deleted her profile. Happens more often than you'd think, I put myself in their shoes and I would be pretty scared to show up at some random dude's house LOL. But she should've at least had the courtesy of letting you she wasn't going to make it.

To avoid cold feet, I always offer to drive somewhere near them and in a public place, it takes a lot of work but it's important to build some trust beforehand instead of asking them to come fuck you at a hotel or your place.[/QUOTE]Yea, we agree to meet in a public place. Starbucks. Oh well, she wanted some gas money to come out in advance. I said nope. I'll give you some when we meet. She said okay, "we need to start developing some trust" or something like that.

This one wants to meet, any info?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/55881e0a-8c9b-4efa-a37b-d4f59b193710[/URL]

[QUOTE=NikkaNamedSlik;4673531]Queenoflove has extreme gps. Wants 500 per meet.[/QUOTE]I sensed that. Thanks!

I'm going to bet this one does too:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/55881e0a-8c9b-4efa-a37b-d4f59b193710[/URL]

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4672310]Either she's blocked me or took her profile down.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33f4a662-7d10-47a9-b799-8b6a51499844?&locale=en_US[/URL]

Cute 18 year old.

We set a price and agreed to meet the next day. She had a long drive so I was already thinking the odds were against me. Anyways, she texts me that morning to confirm our meet up, so I'm feeling my chances are pretty good now.

We had alreday agreed on 6:30. After thinking about traffic I offered her 5:30 or 7:30 to avoid it. She replied 6:30 was fine. So, I'm again thinking 50/50 on showing up.

Of course, she's a no show.

Message today was she was sorry and her sleep was fucked up becasuse she was off her meds?

WTF, I've only been doing this for less than a week and I'm getting sick of it.[/QUOTE]I haven't been on SA for several months, and I've tried it about 5 times in 2 years for a month at a time. It's comforting to see that others are frustrated by it too. Each time I join, I have some optimism because there are so many seemingly beautiful and available women, and lots of messages. Most conversations just fizzle out. I figure I don't have a lot in common with a lot of the women there, so that's one problem. Another problem is that 90% of the girls quit within 2 weeks of joining. I think they initially think they'll meet a rich handsome man, then soon realize it is unlikely to happen, then get scared and quit. For the rest of the girls, 5% are semi-permanent "lifestyle" babies, and the other 5% are somewhere in between. That's my observation. I didn't think there were many bots on "Seeking" (SA). There seem to be bots on Secret Benefits, though, because the pay model is different; you pay for each conversation that you open.

And so, if you do manage to find someone with whom you click, even if its not a perfect situation, I would suggest staying with her for awhile. Months or a couple years. It's a lot of work to replace her and the grass is not always greener on the other side. Having said all that, I'm sure there are a lot of guys better at picking up girls on SA than me, more game, better looking, etc, so YMMV, as usual.

Anyone seen or talked to her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/03ea683b-9297-42df-863b-b7dab62d572c[/URL]

I've been in contact with this lady with the angle of booking a massage. Any others have any contact?

[QUOTE=Snake27;4673710]I haven't been on SA for several months, and I've tried it about 5 times in 2 years for a month at a time. It's comforting to see that others are frustrated by it too. Each time I join, I have some optimism because there are so many seemingly beautiful and available women, and lots of messages. Most conversations just fizzle out. I figure I don't have a lot in common with a lot of the women there, so that's one problem. Another problem is that 90% of the girls quit within 2 weeks of joining. I think they initially think they'll meet a rich handsome man, then soon realize it is unlikely to happen, then get scared and quit. For the rest of the girls, 5% are semi-permanent "lifestyle" babies, and the other 5% are somewhere in between. That's my observation. I didn't think there were many bots on "Seeking" (SA). There seem to be bots on Secret Benefits, though, because the pay model is different; you pay for each conversation that you open.

And so, if you do manage to find someone with whom you click, even if its not a perfect situation, I would suggest staying with her for awhile. Months or a couple years. It's a lot of work to replace her and the grass is not always greener on the other side. Having said all that, I'm sure there are a lot of guys better at picking up girls on SA than me, more game, better looking, etc, so YMMV, as usual.[/QUOTE]Something's not right, I know that. I basically got someone on the site to admit that they just sat and answered questions all day sitting in a cubicle somewhere. Maybe this person was feeling a little guilty leading men on and their conscious got to them and spilled the beans. Lots of replies to my messages that just didn't fit the flow of the conversation and didn't make sense. I smell a rat. LOL.

Other than that, the one's that were real would take three days to get back to me and lay the old " I'm not on here that much" line on me. And, I'm like; Well, "why even bother?

$90.00 bucks for this?

[QUOTE=Oily123;4674452]
$90.00 bucks for this?[/QUOTE]Everyone can decide if $90 is worth it. There's some entertainment value just talking to the girls. Besides, if the cost were much less than $90, the site (SA) would be inundated by riff-raff, driving off the few remaining fresh college girls and leaving behind only the bots, scammers, and street hookers. Also, I think that a lot of Sugar Daddies use the month to collect contact information, and then work through that for 3 months or so until their "rotation" dries up. That's what I gather from a lot of the postings. Take a typical SD budget of $1000 per month, for girls plus ancillary costs. Under the scenario just described the $90 investment is only 3% of the total expenditure, hence insignificant. Probably the $90 is a well-calibrated price for joining SA.

[QUOTE=Snake27;4675238]Everyone can decide if $90 is worth it. There's some entertainment value just talking to the girls. Besides, if the cost were much less than $90, the site (SA) would be inundated by riff-raff, driving off the few remaining fresh college girls and leaving behind only the bots, scammers, and street hookers. Also, I think that a lot of Sugar Daddies use the month to collect contact information, and then work through that for 3 months or so until their "rotation" dries up. That's what I gather from a lot of the postings. Take a typical SD budget of $1000 per month, for girls plus ancillary costs. Under the scenario just described the $90 investment is only 3% of the total expenditure, hence insignificant. Probably the $90 is a well-calibrated price for joining SA.[/QUOTE]

Your pretty accurate, I will sign up about every 3 months, find a consistent girl, collect numbers for higher end girls & then try them out. If one is better than the girl I have on allowance then we change them up. It's about a 3 to 6 month churn on the allowance girls, the usual relationship will last about 6 months. But that is about all I want right for my social life. Right now I have a regular I am on track to seeing 6 times this month, & she is a complete freak in a sheet type who gets turned on & wants to fuck for 3 hours. Couldn't get out of the bed the next day I was so sore. Then during the week I will see a massage girl or try out a new girl with a lunch date & afternoon sex session. Current girl is bbcip / cim & all girls have to be a minimum of BBBJ, if it's covered sex then she better be really good & willing to move to BBFS within a couple of meets. I will not bareback two girls within a week, like right now with my regular it's bareback & i will not bareback any other girls.

I have a budget of beer & pussy money of about $2500 a month so I am a bit higher than what you have for a budget. Normal allowance is $1200, I will not go higher than $1500 unless they are a solid 9. My ppm opening is $200 I will then go up to $300 for a college aged girl.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/39800460/4158739876[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3d4f78f0-7c3f-f6c3-dc61-ac318cd82a02[/URL]

Anybody else seen this girl? I saw her a few months back. I got her off of LC but she's on seeking too. She's fine as hell. Body is perfect. I was so excited that she actually looked just as good as her pics. Started off with a good CBJ. I was so ready to start pounding. But as soon as she spread her legs I was overcome with the foulest stench ever. I know some girls have a smell but this one it literally filled the room. It was naseauting. Worse smell I've ever encountered. I couldn't even try to finish. Anyone else seen her? I wondering if the experience was the same.

Another typical phone bill scammer:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3a948d00-3743-4858-8454-5808e511ab8e[/URL]

"But my phone is off cause of the bills I have to pay".

Good hunting,

Travelin.

[QUOTE=TravelinSD;4676069]Another typical phone bill scammer:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3a948d00-3743-4858-8454-5808e511ab8e[/URL]

"But my phone is off cause of the bills I have to pay".

Good hunting,

Travelin.[/QUOTE]I've actually had two great dates in the last month with SB's who's phones were turned off bc they couldn't pay the bill. They relied on free WiFi to communicate. They never asked me to send money up front to pay the bill though.

"some girls have a smell". Yeah, women that are dirty, skanky, nasty hoes have a stink. Their damned parents never taught them the value of a soapy towel and. Sometimes a douche. Don't give these pieces of garbage any passes on some BS that "some women have a natural odor". Healthy women that take care of themselves don't any any odor at all.

[QUOTE=NikkaNamedSlik;4675462][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/39800460/4158739876[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3d4f78f0-7c3f-f6c3-dc61-ac318cd82a02[/URL]

Anybody else seen this girl? I saw her a few months back. I got her off of LC but she's on seeking too. She's fine as hell. Body is perfect. I was so excited that she actually looked just as good as her pics. Started off with a good CBJ. I was so ready to start pounding. But as soon as she spread her legs I was overcome with the foulest stench ever. I know some girls have a smell but this one it literally filled the room. It was naseauting. Worse smell I've ever encountered. I couldn't even try to finish. Anyone else seen her? I wondering if the experience was the same.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Datsurman;4677419]"some girls have a smell". Yeah, women that are dirty, skanky, nasty hoes have a stink. Their damned parents never taught them the value of a soapy towel and. Sometimes a douche. Don't give these pieces of garbage any passes on some BS that "some women have a natural odor". Healthy women that take care of themselves don't any any odor at all.[/QUOTE]One of the things I appreciated about the KAMPs back when they had young, hot, thin girls was the near total absence of pussy smell; those girls actually had a functioning relationship with soap and water.

When I used to be a regular at Gold back in the 90's (when it was K-spinner heaven) I used to take a "steam shower" with the girls. Basically you're in a room filled with hot steam, and you take a cold shower. Hard to imagine if you haven't done it, but I highly recommend. It was always nice after a vigorous session of fucking.

O.

Met with this one several times. Thin, but not strung out on drugs or such. She would love to have a few regular guys. Not a high maintenance type at all. GFE experience all the way. Doesn't host initially but will once all comfortable. Hit her up, very flexible schedule. Works in Kennesaw lives in Cartersville. PM with questions. 200 to 300 ppm.

[QUOTE=WillDuff;4677838]Met with this one several times. Thin, but not strung out on drugs or such. She would love to have a few regular guys. Not a high maintenance type at all. GFE experience all the way. Doesn't host initially but will once all comfortable. Hit her up, very flexible schedule. Works in Kennesaw lives in Cartersville. PM with questions. 200 to 300 ppm.[/QUOTE]Thought I pasted this in the first one.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ac727d6c-c6ce-45a3-864f-0158009a59a0[/URL]

Bros. Passing this one along. I am not going to pursue, because it isn't the experience I am after, but she seems legit. Sent verification pics and is DTF after setting expectations.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1ed59c81-8283-4171-b588-51f97287ac4b[/URL]

Quoted me $200 if I spot the hotel, or $250 if she came to my house. Basically for an hour and change as she put it. She basically would take an extended break from her job to smash. Passing her along to you horny hounds that like things straight to the point. Ripper.

[QUOTE=Ripvan12;4679370]Bros. Passing this one along. I am not going to pursue, because it isn't the experience I am after, but she seems legit. Sent verification pics and is DTF after setting expectations.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1ed59c81-8283-4171-b588-51f97287ac4b[/URL]

Quoted me $200 if I spot the hotel, or $250 if she came to my house. Basically for an hour and change as she put it. She basically would take an extended break from her job to smash. Passing her along to you horny hounds that like things straight to the point. Ripper.[/QUOTE]I've seen her, really nice small girl. The only downside is that everything is covered and no greek. YMMV though.

I'll be in your fair city soon. Any intel on this Babe? Thanks in advance, Bob PMs are fine too [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/55ac39bb-518f-42b2-a74c-2551e7de4003[/URL].

If anyone wants to pay 1500 a month here you go: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/05acb364-9305-4387-be94-0fabe22ca0ab[/URL].

[QUOTE=NikkaNamedSlik;4681817]If anyone wants to pay 1500 a month here you go: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/05acb364-9305-4387-be94-0fabe22ca0ab[/URL].[/QUOTE]There's some guys a few threads back that might be interested.

She could pay me, but honestly I don't know if I could do it even then.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0170b94e-39ff-476d-88c9-a9bd40c3faae[/URL]

Looking for 3 k a month.

[QUOTE=Ripvan12;4679370]Bros. Passing this one along. I am not going to pursue, because it isn't the experience I am after, but she seems legit. Sent verification pics and is DTF after setting expectations.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1ed59c81-8283-4171-b588-51f97287ac4b[/URL]

Quoted me $200 if I spot the hotel, or $250 if she came to my house. Basically for an hour and change as she put it. She basically would take an extended break from her job to smash. Passing her along to you horny hounds that like things straight to the point. Ripper.[/QUOTE]She looks very familiar. I think I may have seen her on sites more traditional to the hobby in the past.

This one says she meets with a Saftey Advance, before we go any father. I'm guessing she wants me to pay her something in advance. Ain't happening.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5cbf221d-4957-42ed-a35e-d117cb35ecf4[/URL]

[QUOTE=Apollo007;4684360]This one says she meets with a Saftey Advance, before we go any father. I'm guessing she wants me to pay her something in advance. Ain't happening.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5cbf221d-4957-42ed-a35e-d117cb35ecf4[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes I blocked her. Not sure who started it but I heard this from few girls already about so called "safety advance". I have learnt my lesson well. Any ask for money in advance goes to block. Unfortunately there are enough dumb asses still paying and I was one of them not too long ago!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ee054872-2a7d-40b4-944f-17231e58e4d6[/URL]

This one demands a dick pic before meeting. Got to be a cop or a scam right?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b58b8614-7989-4935-89cb-b0b9cfda089d[/URL]