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No disrespect B, but I got to share what's been said here so many times last year. Just read the many negative posts about you in last summer. You can't just falsify facts that Lily has shared here. You have done some of these things in past and many clients were upset with ya. This year you've been unusually wise, now that's a sign of a true Buddah. Whats in past is in past, just accept it and move on with the renewed yourself. Everyone will come on-board with the honest approach. Just like your friend PhnxPhil did (at least that's what seemed to be the case when he posted his post here stating that he's mended his ways with ya).

Lilly had the courage to say the things she did and so kudos to her for keeping it all real here. On the other hand, what B shared today in the "news and media reports" today, about some Dave guy in Arizona, this kinda information is invaluable and the main reason for this board to be in place. In nutshell, lets just learn to co-exist and leave the games alone. Everyone is capable of playing games, so NO one should try to be a smart ass!

Not preaching or accusing anyone. That is not the intention of this post so save the drama or responses to yourself. If you got the urge anyway, take it to PM.

Just my 2 cents (being a long term UTR myself on this board).

CA

[QUOTE=Utr In Ohio; 1537353]Thanks Tori but I am sure those here that matter just laughed at Lilly's post.

She doesn't know the long history I have and that my decade + here in Cincinnati I have never let a client down.

Your a class act Tori.

B[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BiggerDog69;1535626]I'm in if its set during a week I don't have my son. .[/QUOTE]At first this seemed silly, but all in good fun. It would be awful hard to get this done in a week-a month might be more realistic. At first glance is seems like it would be hard to come down with standard scoring, but biggerdog sure has the right idea and that is a good start.

Count me in if this is still being done?

Do gents get bonus points for making a lady squirt during DATY?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1536054]I will step away and leave it to you guys. It was just an opinion.

Molly[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sinful Dreams; 1536283]I was under the impression that the guys were paying for our time, and to be the best they could be at DATY. I don't think it's fair to pay the contestants for our time. Just my opinion though. Suggestions?

Be Safe,

Ally[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone was suggesting that the ladies pay. .

But, if any ladies would like to pay me for DATY, by all means PM me anytime-I deliver in 30 minutes or less or it is free!

LOL!

It sounded like Molly and company meant for there to be a discounted rate if it is just DATY for the contest with a portion going to the prize fund.

For instance if a lady decides to participate she MIGHT adjust her rates as follows:

DATY Contest Session Only=$50. 00 (lady keeps $40. 00 and $10. 00 for the jackpot)

DATY Contest / BBBJ Only= $75. 00 (lady keeps $65. 00 and $10. 00 for the jackpot)

DATY Contest / HHR=$120. 00 (lady keeps $110. 00 and $10. 00 for the jackpot)

DATY Contest / HR=$200. 00 (lady keeps $190. 00 and $10. 00 for the jackpot)

Molly and the ladies come up with a fair grading system that might look like this:

Suction / wetness: 1-5pts.

Style: 1-5 pts.

Technique: 1-5pts.

Tongue Dexterity: 1-5pts.

Extracurricular talent 1-5pts.

One pop in 15 mins or less 10pts. (lose one point for each minute after 15)

Multiple pops in 15 mins or less 25pts.

Squirting in 15 minutes or less 50pts.

You have one month. You must see at least THREE DIFFERENT ladies, but then may repeat or see others. Your top three scorecards are what counts-those are averaged to a total score.

Winner gets 75% of pot.

2nd get 15%

3get 10%

Now to the ladies wondering. In the past these type of contest gain you new clients you might not see which may cause repeat business. It might also cause some old favorites to visit you that you haven't seen in a while. It seems like you would be giving up $10 on each session, but you should more then make up the discount in new business if they guys that have chimed in are serious and not just blowing smoke.

[QUOTE=BigBird69; 1533051]Now fetch me a beer and some spinner ass! .

-BigBird69[/QUOTE]Lovely Alexis is in town from Columbus Friday and Saturday (still the best spinner in Ohio in my mind). You are on your own for the session fee, but I will buy you a beer after.

I saw WhenWhen's post on this one, more or less assuming that she is a cop. (And no-this is not a slam on WhenWhen; I had the same thought.)

We discussed in a previous thread how LE is focusing more efforts on ensnaring hobbyists versus providers. This means that much of the burden for verification shifts to our side.

So here is the question: How do we do this? On one hand, we can't afford to be gullible. On the other hand, if we develop a knee-jerk reaction of "TGTBT" every time a hot new provider enters the forum, then we will alienate ladies who would be good resources to the community.

We need a system of "vetting" new providers. Ladies can "vet" us either by checking references or verifying employment, etc. Other than reviews, how do we vet new providers-any of which could be LE?

Reviews were adequate in the old days. Now that LE is focusing on providers, we need something more systematic.

To me, the Erika513 does look a bit fishy. But what if she is real? Any ideas for coping with the new LE tactics?

[QUOTE=Todd Cincy; 1538285]I saw WhenWhen's post on this one, more or less assuming that she is a cop. (And no-this is not a slam on WhenWhen; I had the same thought.)

We discussed in a previous thread how LE is focusing more efforts on ensnaring hobbyists versus providers. This means that much of the burden for verification shifts to our side.

So here is the question: How do we do this? On one hand, we can't afford to be gullible. On the other hand, if we develop a knee-jerk reaction of "TGTBT" every time a hot new provider enters the forum, then we will alienate ladies who would be good resources to the community.

We need a system of "vetting" new providers. Ladies can "vet" us either by checking references or verifying employment, etc. Other than reviews, how do we vet new providers-any of which could be LE?

Reviews were adequate in the old days. Now that LE is focusing on providers, we need something more systematic.

To me, the Erika513 does look a bit fishy. But what if she is real? Any ideas for coping with the new LE tactics?[/QUOTE]Well I am going to slam Whenwhen to some degree. At face value you see a post being made by a "senior member" with 400+ posts. I spot checked his posting history when I read the remarks that he made about Erika513 being LE. If there is anything of value or substance in his history then I must have missed it.

The source of most of his posts appear to come from viewing images in the picture gallery. He sees a picture, clicks the link, and then spews forth his useless dribble in city threads all across the country. The dumb fuck often doesn't care that he is making his useless comments in the No Reviews or Commentary threads (as he did with his comment on Erika).

My post is not an endorsement of Erika513 because I have not seen her. I agree that we need to vet new providers, but let's also vet the comments made by our senior members to ensure they are actually "trusted members". Erika has a couple of reviews here and as I recall they might have been made by newer members. I also agree that something may not appear quite right about her pics and / or her ad copy, but someone jacking off to the picture gallery and thinking out loud is probably not the one that deserves to be casting doubt on her credibility.

I also think that there would be a lot less skepticism if the provider in question had been 30 lbs. Overweight and middle-aged. There is within the community a certain subgroup that almost seems to prefer the older, heavier, less attractive providers. Not me. I want the young hotties (who are of legal age and here of their own free will, of course) ; and I want to provide a welcoming environment for the "newbie" ladies.

At the same time, we need to protect ourselves from fraud and entrapment.

One method might be to have a senior member (either a hobbyist or a provider)"sponsor" newbie providers. I am admittedly fuzzy on the details of how this would work. The problem, though, is that if a newbie provider comes here and everyone simply avoids her, she will grow discouraged and quickly leave. We don't want this to happen, either.

One thing to keep in mind if seeing a newbie: Keep your language in check. Always be attentive for anything that smacks of offering to exchange sex for money, as this is exactly what *they* want you to say.

With the resources that we have here, we should be able to collaborate to make things safe and enjoyable for everyone. This is, in my view, an important topic that deserves more attention.

Ceenote is a well respected Senior Member here with a long history of good posts and who has been active in the Cincinnati forum. So, I tend to listen when he speaks.

Regarding Erika513, I have not seen her either, so this isn't an endorsement -- just my observations. But, I also remember some positive reviews of her (e.g. a review by SinCity12 from yesterday). But more so, when she started posting here, she noted that she was friends with Crissee:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1531528&viewfull=1#post1531528[/url]

And Crissee and Erika have offered duos together:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1532533&viewfull=1#post1532533[/url]

Based on a little searching here, I am pretty sure that she is [B][I]not [/I][/B]the Erika reviewed in the SW thread back in February / March. Nor is she likely to be the 21 year old Erika that Ozmosis commented on back in 10/2011. Although she [B][I]may [/I][/B]be the Erika referenced as working with Jolie in March 2012.

As for strangeness about her ad copy, some of that may be due to the automated correction features of the software used by Jackson. For example, it changes "usag ID" to "usag I'd" thinking that you meant the contraction, not the abbreviation for "identification". The rest of her post sounds like a common BP ad to me (neither good nor bad). Her pictures look to me like someone hung a black sheet up behind her either to conceal the location or to appear more like "professional" photos with a backdrop (again, neither good nor bad).

Again, not an endorsement, but she is probably legit based on the above.

On the larger topic, I agree that we need to have better ways to verify Providers. Obviously, if one Provider knows another and they will vouch for each other, that works similar to how it does for the guys. But, that doesn't answer the question for the possibly TGTBT new Provider with no reviews, is not on P411 or some other verification site, or something else to vet them.

Thoughts, anyone?

JRW1

[QUOTE=Ceenote;1538307]Well I am going to slam Whenwhen to some degree. At face value you see a post being made by a "senior member" with 400+ posts. I spot checked his posting history when I read the remarks that he made about Erika513 being LE. If there is anything of value or substance in his history then I must have missed it.

The source of most of his posts appear to come from viewing images in the picture gallery. He sees a picture, clicks the link, and then spews forth his useless dribble in city threads all across the country. The dumb fuck often doesn't care that he is making his useless comments in the No Reviews or Commentary threads (as he did with his comment on Erika).

My post is not an endorsement of Erika513 because I have not seen her. I agree that we need to vet new providers, but let's also vet the comments made by our senior members to ensure they are actually "trusted members". Erika has a couple of reviews here and as I recall they might have been made by newer members. I also agree that something may not appear quite right about her pics and / or her ad copy, but someone jacking off to the picture gallery and thinking out loud is probably not the one that deserves to be casting doubt on her credibility.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Todd Cincy;1538285]I saw WhenWhen's post on this one, more or less assuming that she is a cop. (And no-this is not a slam on WhenWhen; I had the same thought.)

We discussed in a previous thread how LE is focusing more efforts on ensnaring hobbyists versus providers. This means that much of the burden for verification shifts to our side.

So here is the question: How do we do this? On one hand, we can't afford to be gullible. On the other hand, if we develop a knee-jerk reaction of "TGTBT" every time a hot new provider enters the forum, then we will alienate ladies who would be good resources to the community.

We need a system of "vetting" new providers. Ladies can "vet" us either by checking references or verifying employment, etc. Other than reviews, how do we vet new providers-any of which could be LE?

Reviews were adequate in the old days. Now that LE is focusing on providers, we need something more systematic.

To me, the Erika513 does look a bit fishy. But what if she is real? Any ideas for coping with the new LE tactics?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Todd Cincy; 1538285]I saw WhenWhen's post on this one, more or less assuming that she is a cop. (And no-this is not a slam on WhenWhen; I had the same thought.)

We discussed in a previous thread how LE is focusing more efforts on ensnaring hobbyists versus providers. This means that much of the burden for verification shifts to our side.

So here is the question: How do we do this? On one hand, we can't afford to be gullible. On the other hand, if we develop a knee-jerk reaction of "TGTBT" every time a hot new provider enters the forum, then we will alienate ladies who would be good resources to the community.

We need a system of "vetting" new providers. Ladies can "vet" us either by checking references or verifying employment, etc. Other than reviews, how do we vet new providers-any of which could be LE?

Reviews were adequate in the old days. Now that LE is focusing on providers, we need something more systematic.

To me, the Erika513 does look a bit fishy. But what if she is real? Any ideas for coping with the new LE tactics?[/QUOTE]Just ask for their arrest records.

Someone on here is probably sifting through "mugshots" as we deliberate over this topic.

RENU is a highly touted organization, quite capable of taking advantage of small heads doing all of the thinking.

No one wants to kill your chances. Based on your pics, you are young and attractive-exactly what we need here.

I brought the issue up in response to another post I saw about you. Clearly some guys were holding off on seeing you because they were uncertain of whether or not you were legit. Ordinarily, the guys would be raving about a new, young, blonde provider. I wanted to see you myself, but I was hesitating as well.

Please understand the background: A few weeks ago there were a series of busts in Dayton, in which LE undercover agents were posing as providers. This is why everyone was so cautious when you appeared on the scene. No one knew who you were, or where you came from.

You happened to show up at time when there is a heightened level of cautiousness on the board. If there are doubts about a provider, the best course of action is for someone to raise the question (which everyone is wondering anyway). Then people can speak up for you, provided you are legitimate. Once you are vetted, you should receive even more business from the community here.

On behalf of the community, I apologize if this made you feel unwelcome. This was no one's intention. Unfortunately, the times require us to be more vigilant than usual.

Hey all, I had a dream about Alex who advertises on this site.

I wanted a massage. My appointment with a different massage artist-and yes artist is the right word-fell through. So I called around and got a hold of Alex. She said she would give me a massage, so I headed her way.

She is a bigger girl. If you like the pics, well. You'll like her.

She gave me a very nice massage, and a very nice oral ending. Overall GFE-Alex worked to please. High marks-she did well. Thanks Alex!

Alex is not really my type, but I will see her again under similar circumstances. Those who like her pics will find a nice woman with fine skills who works to please.

Stay safe and smart, CK

[QUOTE=Jry Wild1; 1538373]Ceenote is a well respected Senior Member here with a long history of good posts and who has been active in the Cincinnati forum. So, I tend to listen when he speaks.

Regarding Erika513, I have not seen her either, so this isn't an endorsement. Just my observations. But, I also remember some positive reviews of her (e. G. A review by SinCity12 from yesterday). But more so, when she started posting here, she noted that she was friends with Crissee:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1531528&viewfull=1#post1531528[/url]

And Crissee and Erika have offered duos together:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6324-Escort-Classified-Ads-Posted-by-Escorts-No-Reviews-or-Commentary&p=1532533&viewfull=1#post1532533[/url]

Based on a little searching here, I am pretty sure that she is [B][I]not [/I][/B]the Erika reviewed in the SW thread back in February / March. Nor is she likely to be the 21 year old Erika that Ozmosis commented on back in 10/2011. Although she [B][I]may [/I][/B]be the Erika referenced as working with Jolie in March 2012.

As for strangeness about her ad copy, some of that may be due to the automated correction features of the software used by Jackson. For example, it changes "usag I'd" to "usag I'd" thinking that you meant the contraction, not the abbreviation for "identification". The rest of her post sounds like a common BP ad to me (neither good nor bad). Her pictures look to me like someone hung a black sheet up behind her either to conceal the location or to appear more like "professional" photos with a backdrop (again, neither good nor bad).

Again, not an endorsement, but she is probably legit based on the above.

On the larger topic, I agree that we need to have better ways to verify Providers. Obviously, if one Provider knows another and they will vouch for each other, that works similar to how it does for the guys. But, that doesn't answer the question for the possibly TGTBT new Provider with no reviews, is not on P411 or some other verification site, or something else to vet them.

Thoughts, anyone?

JRW1[/QUOTE]I have yet to meet the current Erika that is on here. Crissee vouched for her, so that puts her off to a good start in my book. Give her a chance. We need more hot, young providers in this hobby.

[QUOTE=Erika513; 1538301]Todd, and WhenWhen. I am for real, brought into this by Crissee and Morgan.

Like I said in the other section I have seen 5-6 of the USASG members a day as well as a boat load of Backpage people.

Please show me anywhere on the clerk of court sites where any one on earth has been jammed up by seeing me.

I'd like to kindly ask the members that have seen me to step up to the plate and review me.

I appreciate caution, I as well am cautious before seeing someone, but come on, why is it that every new provider her is a cop until proven otherwise.

I am for real, I am here for fun and cash, and am getting both.

Please give me a chance to earn my stripes here before slamming me or any other new provider.

Thanks.

Erika[/QUOTE]Erika, you'll be fine. A couple of more reviews and you'll be off to the races. It won't take long. Use this time to get organized so you won't fumble when the calls start pouring in. Stick with respectful guys. Best wishes.

Originally Posted by Erika513 [View Original Post]

No I am not a cop, but thanks for staying with the theme on this board of trying to put any new girl down.

I am seeing 5-6 of you guys a day so there has to be some brave soul that will come outof the woodwork and give me references please.

Until you posted this. Look, even though I realize you may have several appointments in the day, it is just not something I want to read. You see darling, if I were to schedule an appointment with you in the afternoon, I would prefer not to think about the 5-6 guys you sucked swallowed and fucked before I got there.

I would recommend a bit of thought before you post next time. As much as I understand the nature of your business, well I don't need the thought planted in my brain before I see you.

Best of luck in your ventures. And be careful.

I have never met her or spoken with her. But, the same way I would screen any of you I can tell you from the info just here on Usag that she is Not Leo. That's just about 20 years of screening 1000's of clients and providers. I say anyone who honestly thinks she is a cop has no place in this hobby.

This is a total waste of server space and drags this hobby down.

It's time we all put the past bullshit away and unite to stay safe and start having fun again.

GFE should not include the fighting and drama of a real girl friend! Think about that.

It's time for every guy here to man up and stop feeding into the drama here like a bunch of old ladies at Denny's on Sunday afternoon.

This "hobby" is only going to be what you decide to make of it.

Let's all make it better!

JMHO, B