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[QUOTE=Secretagnt]First of all. How would I post more than 1 msg at a time since I'm new. You can trust me or not, but you need to give me a chance before you decide to not trust. Now, on with the info. So after I posted lastnight my friends and I ended up going to VIPs. Nice place, not really all that shady, and you don't really need to worry about feeling "shame" to go there, since its in the back of the samsung parking lot.
It was about 3am when we got there. There were 3 of us, but one of my friends and I decided not to go it. The 3rd guy was having a special night, so he went it. I'll come back to his report in a bit.
As the 2 of us stood outside, a group of 5 mil guys walked in. And in about 15 mins, they all walked out. The were mentioning that they all got turnred down by the mamasans. Then, a little bit after that, about 4 guys.- local and Filipino , went in. In this case they were walking out in like 5 mins, and one of them, a fat Filipino guy was obviously upset, since he was shouting something about comming here all the way from hilo, and "I hope they get raided". Now back to my friend
He said he went in, chose a hot asian girl. Went into the room, and she went right to it. Very little/no foreplay, etc. Rate was 120. Ended up with 170 total (50 tip). I asked if there were no more girls, since all the guys got turned away. He said there were tons. So I'm thinking they got turned away cause they were drunk or something. I do have another friend who went there 2x in the past, and he said both times the girls were hot, and experience was good, but real quick.
I'm always at the bar next to VIPs (tsunamis), and actually have befriended some of the mamasans and girls. They all seem cool. I asked about the blonde girl with big tits cause I used to see her alot, but havent in a while.
Last year, we went to the AMP on ward upstairs. I would not reccomend. Girls were not hot. If you like super FOB asians, then maybe. But too aggressive and just not for me. Thats the only places I've been, but of those 2, and based on what I hear, VIPs is the best.
Hope this is helpful[/QUOTE]Interesting Report. I'll keep this info in mind the next time I have cash.
But just on the issue of trust on this forum, generally speaking you have to earn your trust, you can't waltz in and expect everyone to think you're one of us. That's how people get busted. Anyhow, you've made some progress, go have an experience to share with us and the doors will open, I assure you.
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Smile and Pine
Started my usual. KB drinking. I was the only one in the bar. WHAT HAPPEN LAST NIGHT? No drinkers.
Started at Smile Spa, for the $20. 00 discount and many girls that were suppose to be there.
Went upstairs and waited. Young Mamasan came, Thai girl, sexy lookin'.
Their Karaoke room was empty. She said no Koreans or Japanese girls, only local. I didn' see anygirls. I even ask Mama if she would go with me. "NO! "
Left SS and called Crystal H. For T. T not working till Tuesday. FYI
Went to Pine Tree, Mama gave me Jun, tall, slim (Tall is 5'6" for me, )
Jun is pretty, really sweet girl. Not to be confused with June from VIP, small, cute. When I was leaving, I saw another Korean girl doing side lateral raises in thre front room. She had bricks. I asked PT Mama who she was and was discribing her. Mama said she don't remember. Strange? She had golden brown hair, about 5', cute.
Anyone know who this fitness girl was?
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[QUOTE=ryh135]I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.
When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.
After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.
Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.
I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.
Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.[/QUOTE]
Same thing happened to me at Sophia's on Young street several year's ago. I had this young Viet. girl, when I went to paying her I noticed a 20 missing, I didn't say anything to her, I gave her $.20 and left. I never returned after that.
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Re: Smile Spa beware
[QUOTE=ryh135]
I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened. [/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear about the theft. In my opinion it's a good policy for a customer to take his wallet with him when going to the shower room in an unfamiliar AMP. A dry place can be found for the wallet during the shower.
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SMILE & PINE
Started at the KB last night. It was empty, the one guy at the bar with me left. What happen? Bartendress said it was the slowest weekend ever.
Started my rounds at Smile Spa for the $20. 00 discount. The Karaoke room was empty! The young mamasan said she had 1 local girl. Mama was Thai, young and sexy looking. Asked what about her. She said "no! "
Called Crystal H. For T. Mama said T comes back Tuesday.
Went to Pine T. Mama gave me Jun. Pretty, about 5'6"? Slim. Sweet girl.
Not to be confused with June from VIP, Small and Cute.
After the TS, I saw a Small Cute Korean Girl doing side lateral raises in the front room. She had bricks! , . Sexy and lean.
On the way out, I asked Mamasan who was the girl excercising in the front room. She said she doesn't remember. She had long goldenbrown hair.
Any members know who she was?
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AMP Rip offs
Sorry to hear about your bad experience new guy. This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. I can't confirm but I think one of my credit cards was compromised at an AMP. I only think this because some of the fraudulent charges were coming from Korea. I never found money missing that I know of but I still take certain precautions. For example, I place my belongings in a pocket of my pants, then roll the pants up and pile my other clothes neatly on top. This helps to dissuade someone from looking through the clothes as they would have to unroll the pants and re-arrange everything as it was(more effort and more time increase the chance of them getting caught).
Tried to go into VIP the other night but all the girls were busy. That place seems to be rocking all the time. Ended up at CS for a very unmemorable experience. I don't even recall the girl's name. She seemed Korean, a few extra pounds, pretty face(about a 7) but she didn't give a massage after the TS, just went straight at it. The mama said that most of the girls were on vacation. The other two choices at the time were old or ugly. Damn the little head.
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Nc...
[QUOTE=Lip Licker]Sorry to hear about your bad experience new guy. This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. I can't confirm but I think one of my credit cards was compromised at an AMP. I only think this because some of the fraudulent charges were coming from Korea. I never found money missing that I know of but I still take certain precautions. For example, I place my belongings in a pocket of my pants, then roll the pants up and pile my other clothes neatly on top. This helps to dissuade someone from looking through the clothes as they would have to unroll the pants and re-arrange everything as it was(more effort and more time increase the chance of them getting caught).
Tried to go into VIP the other night but all the girls were busy. That place seems to be rocking all the time. Ended up at CS for a very unmemorable experience. I don't even recall the girl's name. She seemed Korean, a few extra pounds, pretty face(about a 7) but she didn't give a massage after the TS, just went straight at it. The mama said that most of the girls were on vacation. The other two choices at the time were old or ugly. Damn the little head.[/QUOTE]Hard for get ripz like that.
Had one Viet do the same thing to me at Sophia (back about 2002 I think), learned from spring into action time, use to lv. $$$ in 2 diff pockets, one with the house $$$, and the other with the tipz. Exact change only.
There are times I carry xtra $$$, but lv. That folded in shirt collar. All clothes neatly folded so can always tell if it has been touched. I do take extra precautions when I am new to the place, but it goes both ways I guess.
More hard for me now since I cut my hair short short, & look totally like VICE now. Oh well.
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Pink on Ward
Went to Pink a few nights ago, because had some extra money. I know I should have remembered her name, but I don't. It was a Korean girl, she was in her mid 30's. Took a shower by myself, and got down to buissness. Changed positions a few times. The damage was $$. I would not recommend her.
L=6
A=4
S=6
Well sorry about not remembering her name. If I do go somewhere else, I will remember her name.
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Erlinda
What is the lowdown with Erlinda? I went to see her today and she is now nothing at all like the person who used to work at IM a couple of years ago. I was her regular customer at IM and now that she is where she is, the "good old days" are long gone and as the way it looks they are never coming back!?! Please tell me that this isn't so otherwise this marks a sad day in the history of mongering.
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Smile Spa
[QUOTE=ryh135]After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.[/QUOTE]
That sucks. Fortunately, you learn from your mistakes. Unfortunately, it's costly. Smile Spa used to be so good. Girls and service have gone down drastically since they opened. I personally haven't been there since my car got broken into in their lot 2 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Lip Licker] This is yet another reason why one should RTFF and heed the advice of those more seasoned. It helps a lot to read threads for other cities that have far more dangers and ROBs. Besides taking into the AMP only what you need, I would also suggest(as I have before) not taking your regular wallet. I keep one that only has the cash and cards without vital information. [/QUOTE]I've been lurking the Hawaii boards for a while and think there was only one post that said money was taken from his wallet. I tried to look for it to see if it happened at Smile so I could kick myself in the butt, but I couldn't find it. I kicked myself in the butt anyway.
I did bring a "second" wallet in which had an old driver's license and some other stuff to make it look like my regular wallet, so I guess it could have been worse if I had my regular wallet and a credit card was also taken.
Anyway, hindsight is 20/20. Live and learn. And all the other cliche. As Kapalua suggested, I'll bring my wallet with me to the shower from now on.
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Re: AMP ROB's
[QUOTE=ryh135]I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.
When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.
After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.
Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.
I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.
Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.[/QUOTE]Hey dude. Sorry to hear you’ve got robbed. All I can say is that any business sex related you will not find the most trusting and moral people there. Of course I am only generally speaking, and not trying to say that all the providers are dishonest. Many of them are nice ladies and work hard for their money, but it’s the nature of the beast and you will come across all kinds of addictions and reasons behind the curtain to get to try to steal if chance opens up. I can only speak for myself, since I am not a frequent hobbyist of any kind, but when I do take time to play, I try to be as careful s possible. When it comes to money, I only take what I think it should cost me inside, unless I know in advance. No ID’s no credit cards no any other information. Everything is left in the car. Sometimes I think, if I ever drop dead in one of those places, they would have hard time finding out who I am LOL. Anyway, I separate my money in small groups and divide them in different pockets. House fee in one pocket and service fee in the other. I even go as far as remembering the order of my bills in the pocket so I can leave some in them in the pocket without taking them out, if unexpected chance of bargain comes up. That’s just me. Anyway, really sorry to hear you had a bad experience, and thanks for the warning to the rest of us.
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Carrying your wallet
About getting ripped off... I can't think of any better advice than what Kapalua said about bringing your wallet into the shower with you. Every place should have a reasonably dry place to keep it. Some providers actually recommend it. I feel bad now about making a mostly negative post about Bebe at Tokyo Relaxation, because she was one of the ones who reminded me to take my wallet once.
When I first mongered, I left my important stuff in the car. I figured, I needed my driver's license and credit cards for whatever fun I was having that night before the mongering, but I didn't want to get my wallet stolen INSIDE the AMP. But, as Belut Boy said, cars get ripped off. So, my paranoia that my car would get ripped off led me to take my wallet inside the shower.
I can imagine car thieves waiting to see a guy go into an AMP, waiting long enough to know that the guy is getting serviced instead of bailing out, and then "working on" the car. You can expect that the guy will be gone for a while.
Primal Needs
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[QUOTE=ryh135]I know this is my first post but I want to let you folks know what happened with my visit to Smile Spa this past weekend and why I won't be going back, ever.
When I got there, this local, kinda chubby girl lets me in and showed me to the room. I gave her the Pennysaver coupon and. 3. She said there were only two girls working that night, her and a Thai girl. I told her to send the Thai girl in. The Thai girl was very pretty, gave a good TS and good service.
After the session I got dressed, opened my wallet and it looked like some money was missing. WTF? Now, my mind was still a little fuzzy from the session so I wasn't 100% sure about that so I gave her 1. 4 and left. When my mind cleared up I realized that, sure enough, I was short. 2.
Now I know what you folks will say, that I should have brought the exact amount, but if I passed on SS (which I should have done) and went somewhere else that night I would have needed the extra money.
I've been to Smile several times before, plus a bunch of other places and this has never happened to me. I don't know which girl took the money because the one that serviced me didn't follow me to the shower. She left the room and then met me in the shower after a few minutes. But that doesn't matter because that fact is, it happened.
Hope I don't get flamed too much for my first post being so negative but I wanted to get this out. I'll never go back there.[/QUOTE]
That sucks, live and learn. Did the local girl have a white dress on. Kinda short, thick girl with blonde highlights? I know of only two amp's she's worked at, Smile and an amp in the back seat betty's parking lot, forgot the name and no longer around. She's bad news.
If you have to take your wallet, take a zip lock bag so it doesnt get wet in the shower or leave it in a well hidden place in your car. Otherwise only carry what your willing to pay and place it in several pockets similar to what others have reported.
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LE on this Website
Seems this site is being monitored by LE now. Our threads are not only providing information to members about our experiences and recomendations, but, providing LE with names of the girls and the places they work. I feel we bring the girls and their AMPs more harm while exchanging information on where so and so is or where she's working now and what we do with her.
Most of the girls are sweet and are just everyday people who do a "job" that is socially unaccepted (by law).
I'd like to continue seeing these beautiful girls, so I don't think I will add fuel to the fire that might burn down the AMPs.
Been fun reading all the threads from everyone.
For all you LE guys: Kinda remember, some of us just can't get a girlfriend and have needs just like you. You might have a girlfriend or be married, so your sex life is O. K. But us, is that toughshit 'cause we just "don't got what it takes" to get a girlfriend? We can't find love, we can't pay for love, seems society can control our sex lives. I can't believe we can go to jail 'cause we just want to fuck.
Why all the fuss for such a simple biological funtion?