"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Zerry;6045247]You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.[/QUOTE]I am not judging *your* choices. I detest smoke of any type, and having a SO, were I to show up at home with *any* sort of weed smell (my SO used to, I am thankful she quit, and primarily b / c of me, but I am sure she knows *exactly* the smell), I could be in for answering some awkward questions. And I have values and self-control, IK many people get into addictions, that doesn't mean I have to have those people in my life, where they can inadvertently do damage to mine.

I likewise won't tolerate a SB who is chronically disorganized / late, I had a POT I was supposed to see just a couple of weeks ago, for our first two meetings, the M&G and a putative FC, she was 45 minutes late, without explanation, texting excuses, etc. , I can't deal with that and stay safe regarding the SO, I need to know when we're going to meet.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6044584]I have a couple of SBs I have seen this year, their teeth look pretty good but just off, like maybe their two front teeth (and perhaps more) are caps. Since I understand some people w / drug problems lose their teeth, should I take this as an indicator that there was drug use in their past (and be concerned about the present)? The most recent, a 29 year old single mom, admits she likes weed, and I said I wouldn't be around it at all, she backed down by saying she liked edibles. The other one has two early teenage kids, but ex has custody of them.[/QUOTE]If the teeth currently look good / okay, ignore them. I avoid women with messed up teeth but that's mostly an appearance issue with me. Dentistry is expensive and often not covered by insurance. If she or family spent money on making them look good, that's a positive in my book.

I do not shy away from casual pot usage but too much use is going to correlate with other problems. I generally avoid any other drugs like the plague. I am looking for inexperienced normal chicks. Typically in college or just out. If they act remotely pay for play, I am gone. Those using drugs are usually like this.

Lack of custody is a pretty big red flag. Lots of women these days are going for joint custody. It's their most reliable way of making sure the guy pays his share of support and gives them more free time to enjoy their lives. If a woman has lost custody of two kids, especially a daughter, you need to probe that pretty hard. Never say never but if she cannot offer a good explanation, I would ease my way out. Too many others willing who have no such risk.

BAM.

[QUOTE=Zerry;6045247]You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.[/QUOTE]I am paying for a sexual experience not just sex. We have discussed this before. The experience I seek is most likely different from what you seek. To each his own, tastes differ, and YMMV! I seek a safe, drama-free, ongoing and fun relationship with a hot young chick that I like and that either likes me or can convincingly fake it for a year or so. I am not going to find that with a chick with messed up teeth or a messed up personal life due to drugs. If either their personal appearance, their private lives or their living space is 'haggard," I am out of there. But that's just me.

BAM.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6045651]I am not judging *your* choices. I detest smoke of any type, and having a SO, were I to show up at home with *any* sort of weed smell (my SO used to, I am thankful she quit, and primarily b / c of me, but I am sure she knows *exactly* the smell), I could be in for answering some awkward questions. And I have values and self-control, IK many people get into addictions, that doesn't mean I have to have those people in my life, where they can inadvertently do damage to mine.

I likewise won't tolerate a SB who is chronically disorganized / late, I had a POT I was supposed to see just a couple of weeks ago, for our first two meetings, the M&G and a putative FC, she was 45 minutes late, without explanation, texting excuses, etc. , I can't deal with that and stay safe regarding the SO, I need to know when we're going to meet.[/QUOTE]Not sure why you're feeling judged.

My only point was, if someone is haggard looking, who cares if its because of drugs? Just don't hook up with haggard chicks. Even if they are on time.

Cute. Petite. Full of energy. Adventurous. Playful. Sassy. Likes to tease with dirty talk. Masturbates to get me hot. Loves to be spanked and have it rough. Makes it a game to see how many times she can get me to pop before I am totally worn out. Does pretty much does anything I want. Nothing is perfect but this comes damn close.

First, I'll say that the fact an SB smokes weed is in no way going to prevent me from fucking her, but in most cases when I find an SB doing drugs of any kind, I drop her like one of her own bad habits after the initial banging.

I can't think of a single SB I've ever been concerned about being a health risk due to needle sharing or whatever, most of my girls are college girls or just otherwise in a league so far from streetwalkers that it's never been a concern.

The problem I have with it is simply because, statistically, the number of "weed people" or recreational drug users I've known (plenty) that are reliable human beings is low relative to the number of non-drug users. Specifically, the weedy girls tend to flake more on appointments (even if its just last minute rescheduling) or otherwise do things that amount to wastes of my time, and time is valuable to me. Girls that don't regularly partake in drugs are way more on-the-ball, have much healthier sex drives (being horny only when high doesn't count as a healthy sex drive), are more invested in their arrangements and just generally make better daddy's girls. I also don't like wondering if a girl I'm with is carrying illegal drugs in her purse, even though I've been fortunate enough to never get into the types of legal issues where it would matter.

What I've found is that when people use a substance regularly, it's usually because they "feel a need for it" and that need is almost always based in other personality / mental issues. I just prefer to avoid those issues where possible. Drugs are only sexy to those who need them in order to enjoy sex. To the rest of is they are mainly a filthy habit for the weak.

She's been on before, but not in over 6 months. Killer private pics. Serious stripper vibe [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/25fd42e9-4c0a-448f-b391-59134aac5f4b[/URL].

Any intel?

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6046812]She's been on before, but not in over 6 months. Killer private pics. Serious stripper vibe [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/25fd42e9-4c0a-448f-b391-59134aac5f4b[/URL].

Any intel?[/QUOTE]Definitely not a stripper. She's been on and off the site for years. Young professional with alternate views on relationships / monogamy. Reviewed well when she has been reviewed.

I hear you, Bam. This girl, smoking hot spinner, was one-third my age at the time I FC her. Her ask for 'sugar'? - a Barbie makeup kit that cost around $160. So submissive, loved to call me daddy. However, she asked for future meetings if I could get magic mushrooms for her / us. I just could not get around that and didn't see her again. I still see she is on the seeking site in southern California.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6046583]Cute. Petite. Full of energy. Adventurous. Playful. Sassy. Likes to tease with dirty talk. Masturbates to get me hot. Loves to be spanked and have it rough. Makes it a game to see how many times she can get me to pop before I am totally worn out. Does pretty much does anything I want. Nothing is perfect but this comes damn close.[/QUOTE]You sir are a lucky SOB LOL. If you want to ever share your toy, I'd be happy to play nice her, as would I'm guessing a lot of other folks here.

[QUOTE=BamBam;6045894]If the teeth currently look good / okay, ignore them. I avoid women with messed up teeth but that's mostly an appearance issue with me. Dentistry is expensive and often not covered by insurance. If she or family spent money on making them look good, that's a positive in my book.

I do not shy away from casual pot usage but too much use is going to correlate with other problems. I generally avoid any other drugs like the plague. I am looking for inexperienced normal chicks. Typically in college or just out. If they act remotely pay for play, I am gone. Those using drugs are usually like this.

Lack of custody is a pretty big red flag. Lots of women these days are going for joint custody. It's their most reliable way of making sure the guy pays his share of support and gives them more free time to enjoy their lives. If a woman has lost custody of two kids, especially a daughter, you need to probe that pretty hard. Never say never but if she cannot offer a good explanation, I would ease my way out. Too many others willing who have no such risk..[/QUOTE]Wow dude!

When girls start blabbing you need to be firm and say "Less Talkie, More Suckie" while pointing to your crotch.

It always works for me because I don't want to hear that shit.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6047372]I hear you, Bam. This girl, smoking hot spinner, was one-third my age at the time I FC her. Her ask for 'sugar'? - a Barbie makeup kit that cost around $160. So submissive, loved to call me daddy. [b]However, she asked for future meetings if I could get magic mushrooms for her / us. I just could not get around that and didn't see her again.[/b] I still see she is on the seeking site in southern California.[/QUOTE]You dumped that hottie over her wanting to do mushrooms with you? Two things: you missed a chance to hit that hot ass some more, AND you missed out on doing some mushrooms! I see only upside with her request. LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6048374]You dumped that hottie over her wanting to do mushrooms with you? Two things: you missed a chance to hit that hot ass some more, AND you missed out on doing some mushrooms! I see only upside with her request. LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were just trying to be funny (sardonic tone is sometimes difficult to perceive in here as opposed to seriousness), but procuring and / or doing illegal drugs with a SB adds a whole new layer of legal risk that is not worth it just for a piece of ass IMO. I don't much care if a SB does drugs. But not while with me and not if it affects her being on time or her performance, or if she is inclined to be carrying. In states where weed is legal recreationally (maybe even in states where it isn't: everything is moving towards national legality and the risk is substantially less even where it is currently "illegal") Sure. Why not? I partake myself. Sex while high on weed is a LOT of fun. But being arrested for illegal drug possession or sale is definitely NOT fun. There is no SB action in prison.

I'm paying for companionship, sex is just one aspect. I also wouldn't be interested in a woman who pounds a pint of vodka every night, it totally kills the vibe. And despite many states decriminalizing marijuana, they can't legalize it because it's on the federal list of narcotics. That means if I have a job that requires random urinalysis, say a pilot for instance, I still have to abstain.

[QUOTE=Zerry;6045247]You're paying for sex. Why such a hard line on drugs? Needle drugs for AIDS sure, but weed? If they look haggard they look haggard, past drug use or not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WakeForYou;6047071]Definitely not a stripper. She's been on and off the site for years. Young professional with alternate views on relationships / monogamy. Reviewed well when she has been reviewed.[/QUOTE]I second that. Not a stripper at all, just loves being sexy and loves sex. Saw her several times a few years ago and she was awesome. Amazing body, open to everything, just a lot of fun.