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[QUOTE=Surfaboy;6983211][URL]https://noodlemagazine.com/watch/-96913698_456241172[/URL]
This is her?[/QUOTE]Yeah definitely not her, tattoos are always a dead give-away. Rarely are you going to see a person from a current / relevant porn video in the club (Candy from SR could be exception but honestly not the best looking).
[QUOTE=CumDripp;6983892]Yeah definitely not her, tattoos are always a dead give-away. Rarely are you going to see a person from a current / relevant porn video in the club (Candy from SR could be exception but honestly not the best looking).[/QUOTE]That chick definitely dances in SoCal, pretty sure she was at California girls for a while and dreams. I forget where she's at now want to say bare elegance but she's active on ig and onlyfans.
[QUOTE=CumDripp;6983003]Really from my understanding is that these clubs are money hungry with low mileage unless someone else can chime in. Most topless places have low mileage 'hence topless and non nude". Also the fact that VIP is cheap most of these girls really want big tips to do anything even if its just to touch. One girl mentioned that they get none of the VIP fee so it was $100 just to touch her. (referring to Satin COI / OC).[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm going to say Satin is more of a drink club. All the girls give dances but since they can make money on drinks, that's what a lot of guys do and it's up to the girl to convince him to get a dance. This usually the case with every topless club that serves alcohol. Go to the non-alcohol full nude clubs for action.
Go to Synn or Spearmint Rhino. The girls at Synn bang, half the girls at Rhino do. Most will do 200, some less. But most will ask for more if they think you have it. If you get a room at Synn, let her start the dance and get you hard, then either you or her can bring it up.
Again, Satin is not the place. Paradise works if you don't mind thick or obese girls. Very first girl I saw there was 350 pounds.
This is true. And if you approach, you usually have less leverage to negotiate. The whole game is finding the balance between showing interest but sticking to your number and getting her to come down to it. But good luck with these 4 dancers listed here.
[QUOTE=FruitCake;6982064]Synn Club is the best dance club in So. Cal: Ella, Lolita, Ariel, Roxy and A few others I'm forgetting are my top dancers / but, keep In mind, the prettier A woman is, the less chance she will approach you!![/QUOTE]
No. Her photo is on the roll call website. The current blonde Ariana is hot enough to not have to do porn. I don't do days so don't run into her but it is obvious that her level of looks is going to cost a high premium.
[QUOTE=Surfaboy;6983211][URL]https://noodlemagazine.com/watch/-96913698_456241172[/URL]
This is her?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roland2418;6984972]No. Her photo is on the roll call website. The current blonde Ariana is hot enough to not have to do porn. I don't do days so don't run into her but it is obvious that her level of looks is going to cost a high premium.[/QUOTE]Yeah. You all are right. Looking at the rollcall, different person. If I remembered correctly, this chick in the vid used to be a cafe girl so I assume she went into stripping.
A friend of mine was a strip club DJ / manager. He partook plenty. He used to joke he should sue for sexual harassment. Dancers would go into his booth, ostensibly to pick their tracks, and paw at him and more. It was a regular game for them to drop down in the booth (where they couldn't be seen from the seating areas) and blow him while he was talking, just to see if they could make him mess up. He said it was so intense (I. E. , non-stop), after a while, it stopped being fun, and of course, the dancers expected him to do them favors, such as not calling them to stage, and stuff like that, in return. Also, the dancers stopped respecting him, and he was sort of their boss. So eventually, he put a stop to it, and would only accept attention from girls he actually liked. He would joke, "I guess I'm born again now. ".
[QUOTE=Roland2418;6972680]I would think this job would be torture for guys working there since they cannot touch the girls working there or risk their job. Meanwhile they know they are all getting down and dirty in the back but cannot partake themselves. (Or can they sample them off the clock?)[/QUOTE]
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On the flip side I got a regular dance with Sakura, new Asian girl as well Korean & very slim / flexible. Decent dance, no info on extras maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Pretty face but very skinny, almost emaciated. About the freakiest dancer I've ever met.
[QUOTE=GeezerX;6985195]A friend of mine was a strip club DJ / manager. He partook plenty. He used to joke he should sue for sexual harassment. Dancers would go into his booth, ostensibly to pick their tracks, and paw at him and more. It was a regular game for them to drop down in the booth (where they couldn't be seen from the seating areas) and blow him while he was talking, just to see if they could make him mess up. He said it was so intense (I. E. , non-stop), after a while, it stopped being fun, and of course, the dancers expected him to do them favors, such as not calling them to stage, and stuff like that, in return. Also, the dancers stopped respecting him, and he was sort of their boss. So eventually, he put a stop to it, and would only accept attention from girls he actually liked. He would joke, "I guess I'm born again now. ".[/QUOTE]Damn that would explain why dancers are always hanging around the DJ booth.
This strategy can go either way. You might get stuck with a ridiculous tip demand or you might get lucky. Most will say confirm everything before going into VIP. But some deals can be made last minute if you play it right. It helps to not look like completely hideous troll LOL.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;6984927]If you get a room at Synn, let her start the dance and get you hard, then either you or her can bring it up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roland2418;6988011]This strategy can go either way. You might get stuck with a ridiculous tip demand or you might get lucky. Most will say confirm everything before going into VIP. But some deals can be made last minute if you play it right. It helps to not look like completely hideous troll LOL.[/QUOTE]Speaking as a guy who probably ranks between "not bad for his age to Hideous Troll", depending on the angle and the girl making the judgement call, I would imagine the amount of $$ she wants to charge me might be an indication as to whether she sees me as "Not Bad" or "Hideous Troll". LOL.
Can someone please tell me her stage name- along with services.
I'll be more then welcome to share some explicit content.
[QUOTE=Roland2418;6988011]This strategy can go either way. You might get stuck with a ridiculous tip demand or you might get lucky. Most will say confirm everything before going into VIP. But some deals can be made last minute if you play it right. It helps to not look like completely hideous troll LOL.[/QUOTE]I've had it go both ways. Sometimes the negotiation in the VIP results in her dropping from her initial ask to something reasonable pretty quickly when she realizes that that's the only way she's going to make money beyond the room fee. Sometimes she holds to her number and I end up with a vanilla dance. Either way you have to stick to your guns and not let the little head take charge. I think more often than not she caves in my experience but that will vary depending on how hot / popular the girl is and how busy the club is. It's probably better to negotiate before going back and I often do. But I've also had dancers turn me down out on the floor and then accept that number in the VIP on the next visit.
Question: Thanks in advance. Which places do not charge for singles? Everyplace I have gone to lately where I ask for singles I always get a 10% charge and there are no signs posted (except for holiday) nor does the bartender tell me before. Sometimes I like to have a nice band and my banks too cheap for those LOL.
[QUOTE=GreenMount28;6988695]Question: Thanks in advance. Which places do not charge for singles? Everyplace I have gone to lately where I ask for singles I always get a 10% charge and there are no signs posted (except for holiday) nor does the bartender tell me before. Sometimes I like to have a nice band and my banks too cheap for those LOL.[/QUOTE]Try your local bank. They should hook it up as long as you are a bank customer yo.
[QUOTE=GreenMount28;6988695]Question: Thanks in advance. Which places do not charge for singles? Everyplace I have gone to lately where I ask for singles I always get a 10% charge and there are no signs posted (except for holiday) nor does the bartender tell me before. Sometimes I like to have a nice band and my banks too cheap for those LOL.[/QUOTE]I've never been charged for getting singles.
[QUOTE=GreenMount28;6988695]Question: Thanks in advance. Which places do not charge for singles? Everyplace I have gone to lately where I ask for singles I always get a 10% charge and there are no signs posted (except for holiday) nor does the bartender tell me before. Sometimes I like to have a nice band and my banks too cheap for those LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CocaCvs;6988839]I've never been charged for getting singles.[/QUOTE]Heh, the better question is which places are charging for singles?
[QUOTE=TenSleep;6988308]Speaking as a guy who probably ranks between "not bad for his age to Hideous Troll", depending on the angle and the girl making the judgement call, I would imagine the amount of $$ she wants to charge me might be an indication as to whether she sees me as "Not Bad" or "Hideous Troll". LOL.[/QUOTE]So I'm a baby face guy. When I was younger I had no facial hair. I can saybas fact, strippers will literally solicit sex from you if your hot. There were many times me and fellow associates (models, actors, etc) were jerked off then asked for VIP. I even had a star stripper on the trip ask to exchange my oral for her sex.
Strippers.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6989106]Heh, the better question is which places are charging for singles?[/QUOTE]It was ST when I was there for the drink specials. Also I think knockouts when I was there a month ago charged me. The holiday also charges but they have signs at the bar. When I go to some clubs out of state waiters will walk around with bands asking people if they want change LOL.
[QUOTE=GreenMount28;6989718]It was ST when I was there for the drink specials. Also I think knockouts when I was there a month ago charged me. The holiday also charges but they have signs at the bar. When I go to some clubs out of state waiters will walk around with bands asking people if they want change LOL.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Knockouts, they had pre-bundled stacks of ones. And each stack had $18. They don't even tell you they take 10% so unless you count it, you don't really know. I figured it out cause I ended up not spending the ones and counted it when I got home. I got 2 stacks and both stacks were like that so I don't think it was a mistake on their part.
[QUOTE=CaseyX;6988556]I've had it go both ways. Sometimes the negotiation in the VIP results in her dropping from her initial ask to something reasonable pretty quickly when she realizes that that's the only way she's going to make money beyond the room fee. Sometimes she holds to her number and I end up with a vanilla dance. Either way you have to stick to your guns and not let the little head take charge. I think more often than not she caves in my experience but that will vary depending on how hot / popular the girl is and how busy the club is. It's probably better to negotiate before going back and I often do. But I've also had dancers turn me down out on the floor and then accept that number in the VIP on the next visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, I prefer to negotiate in VIP for a couple reasons. Like Casey says once she's in the room she can't make any more money unless she gets you to tip. So make sure you're ready to pass if you can't agree on the price. I make sure she can get me hard, no point otherwise of course, and the first few mins is my chance to look out for red flags to abort. Give her a chance to get comfortable for me to make her decision easy. Then she asks me if I want something more. I make it clear I want sex for 2. You want to name the starting price.
Shay, Diamond, Mona took 2 on the spot without hesitation, because it's their price. Girls like Melanie and Pink didn't even tell me what to tip them, they love our dicks that much. So I gave 2. Rarely a girl is more but I only pay if I think she's worth it.
Some girls will take that 2 and raise it and then it's up to you. But from comparing notes with others here she might take a 2 and raise it to 3 while if you started at 4 she'd raise it to 5. That's not hard to handle, you have to make your decision either way. Most veterans would say to hold firm and most girls will give in, but it is everybody's own decision.
Other girls have GPS and either their minimum price is high and they won't go lower or they'll only go lower if they like you. One girl told me she charges guys she'd fuck A, while she quotes guys she doesn't want to fuck B. If they're willing to pay a crazy high rate of B, then she'll do it. I avoid most GPS girls to begin with by tipping the girl at the rail and letting her come to me. I'm not the most attractive guy so any girl who comes to me has told me they are down for business. I've only tipped $5-$15 so they have no idea if I have a low or high budget at this point, and I always hesitate if I'm really even going to get a dance with them. If they give me a good vibe and attitude on the floor, I've had a high success rate. Maybe I've been lucky but in any case I try what works.
There are long-time veterans at clubs like SR who don't do extras, they don't need to. So if you are at SR where it's uncertain, the girl will usually tell you on the floor that more is available. You can just ask. I always say it's not what I'm there for but curious if it's available, so they know it's a matter of price before we do anything. At SR and Synn 2 is the most common price for me, I've heard some guys go lower and certainly a few girls only do higher. ymmv
Occasionally I have my eyes set on a girl I really like, so I don't have much choice but to approach her even though I know it might be GPS or high prices. However, since I actually thought she was worth paying more, and I have plenty of money, we worked something out. Most I paid was 4 for a girl that was honestly worth more. But I'm not going to tell her that. I actually saw her again for 4. She was a 10 in my book. I have been quoted 6, 8, 10 by a few girls who were not half as hot as the girl I paid 4 for. Don't take it personally, just move on. It is part of the game.
You would think once they realize "shit I'm locked in for the next 15/30 minutes in this VIP, I might as well take this X tip instead of nothing at all".
[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6991329]You would think once they realize "shit I'm locked in for the next 15/30 minutes in this VIP, I might as well take this X tip instead of nothing at all".[/QUOTE]This is very true. I was negotiating with a girl on the floor not in the room. We agreed on a price, but she started asking weird questions and making restrictions. I didn't say anything and started walking away. She caved pretty quickly and even said she was willing to go down more.
It's not the exact same situation as you mentioned, but similar idea to where if you are firm in giving her a take it or leave it, there's a good chance she'll take it rather than walking away with nothing at all.
[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6991329]You would think once they realize "shit I'm locked in for the next 15/30 minutes in this VIP, I might as well take this X tip instead of nothing at all".[/QUOTE]Girls who are desperate for business would solicit openly on the floor. Just go along with it and negotiate with them. Be specific on what you want before going to VIP to avoid misunderstanding. Some newbies won't discuss it even if they're dtf because they're overly cautious. They want you to at least take them to a regular lap dance and see you to incriminate yourself before they tell you their menus. They also want to see how you conduct yourself. If you aggressively fingerbangs her in a regular lap dance (and if she doesn't like it) then she probably won't offer you anything. Some girls, especially the popular ones, would only discuss their menus in VIP. They want to make sure you can afford VIP before disclosing anything. There are lots of lookie loos at the clubs. Girls want to avoid telling men all the nasty shit they are willing to do without knowing if they have money for it.
With all these discussion with tip after VIP, what happens if price is too high? Do you even tip some afterwards, does dance just end or does it just end up being a 15 min redundant lap dance?
[QUOTE=CumDripp;6992559]With all these discussion with tip after VIP, what happens if price is too high? Do you even tip some afterwards, does dance just end or does it just end up being a 15 min redundant lap dance?[/QUOTE]Price too high = enjoy the low-mileage dance, keep it flirty and fun, make sure you and her enjoy the dance. If I want to see her again and try again at extras in the future then I'll tip her no more than $20 or try to get away with not tipping. If I don't want to see her again (aka she has a bad attitude) I'll fight to not pay a tip.
I prefer to do my negotiations in the VIP and not on the floor. I don't do that for the reasons mentioned by other users (girls are willing to take a lower bid since they're already stuck back there), I do it because it increases my odds of getting freebies.
I have a eye on Bella.
What I'm looking for send me some mileage ill send some explicit content of a few dancers I plowed. Delicious.
Stunna no mileage don't even.
Khalifa extreme gps & a little slow she seems to be on drugs from her pimp.
Kayalani too much. $500 WTF no.
Destiny she is dating the security guard in front but her bf was trying to get at Dior from Synn LOL.
Royalty was there last night but she can take a pounding for $250 just walk out when she wants to charge more for a nut.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6992654]Price too high = enjoy the low-mileage dance, keep it flirty and fun, make sure you and her enjoy the dance. If I want to see her again and try again at extras in the future then I'll tip her no more than $20 or try to get away with not tipping. If I don't want to see her again (aka she has a bad attitude) I'll fight to not pay a tip.
I prefer to do my negotiations in the VIP and not on the floor. I don't do that for the reasons mentioned by other users (girls are willing to take a lower bid since they're already stuck back there), I do it because it increases my odds of getting freebies.[/QUOTE]Pros and cons on negotiating in the VIP. Pro. She wants her "tip". The con is she can burndown the clock. For a 15 minute VIP, 5 minutes of negotiating burned 1/3rd of the time and she still wants the same tip as if she worked the full 100% of the time.
[QUOTE=CumDripp;6992559]With all these discussion with tip after VIP, what happens if price is too high? Do you even tip some afterwards, does dance just end or does it just end up being a 15 min redundant lap dance?[/QUOTE]By default I don't even take a girl unless she gives me a great vibe on the floor. My success rate on just a dance has been high, I don't always go for extras since I sometimes want to see several girls in a night and finish later. I'm in no rush to find a girl to bang, it can be the next girl no problem.
I have two separate pockets for money, one I can pull out for a girl and the other zipped up with a lot more. I shuffle it over after every dance with enough for the house fee so I can say "oh let me see..wow I really do have just 200 on me" - take it or leave it. Other people have some variation of this system.
Once you're in VIP you get a clear picture of how things are going. If I get a feeling she's going to ask high I cut her off and act ambivalent "I don't want it from every girl" and keep her going. Or shut it down with "I want to get to know you first with a dance, if you're good I'll tip you and maybe ask for more later". I don't even bother with that unless I care, I am looking to get a dance or two before I bang anyways.
At SR you can get a good dance and don't have to tip, at Synn every girl needs a tip to survive so the strategy depends on the club too. I will tip a girl if she is very good.
Of course you can sometimes do a 2 for 4 or special to get an idea first. I like the SR $100 for 10 specials early weekends for that. And the Synn 2 for 4 was a great way since some girls sucked and other girls gave me a VIP's worth right there so we just continued where we left off in the VIP.
You are there to have fun so do it your way. This is the other reason I don't bother with hard negotiation. Yes some girls will negotiate on the floor so I'll do that but many girls won't first time so it is a judgement call of their attitude and how much you'll like them.
Whats carmen mileage at paradise??
[QUOTE=Billj1034;6986507]Pretty face but very skinny, almost emaciated. About the freakiest dancer I've ever met.[/QUOTE]Bone on muscle hurts. Hopefully the dance make up for it.
Since you L. P go into detail about overpriced dancers like Khalifa, Dream-synn or Esme.
Had the chance to meet Bella. Waste of time wanted $400. But left that when asked about menu caught a bunch of redflags. She so concerned about the VIP in the back then just talking. Gave me a song and dance about how dancers don't keep $180. I know what I'm worth blah blah. Stfu. I'm assuming she a 304- escort because she has a aloof personality but I would have paid $300 but not for the bare minimum. She also danced at Tropical lei so she off the Blade or track. But I would pass with her. Yet there are dumbied that give her 1,000 smh.
[QUOTE=ClintWoods;6992903]Pros and cons on negotiating in the VIP. Pro. She wants her "tip". The con is she can burndown the clock. For a 15 minute VIP, 5 minutes of negotiating burned 1/3rd of the time and she still wants the same tip as if she worked the full 100% of the time.[/QUOTE]Ahhh, you're assuming I get the 15 min. I usually opt for the 30 min and that's the optimal time for the "cake to bake" so to speak.
0 min-10 min be Mr. Flirty, Mr. Charm. Get her to laugh and connect and be comfortable with you. Almost act like you don't want to be there to begin with.
10 min-15 min be Mr. Explorer, Mr. Kissy. Explore her nether regions to see if she's getting hot and bothered and sometimes she'll initiate further progression.
15 min-30 min be MR. FREAK.
The above only works about 25% of the time, heh. This usually doesn't work for the true hustlers and seasoned vets (it's happened, though). The other 75% is as you described. If that's the case I just enjoy the low-mileage dance and look at it as a step closer to the freebie or deep discount in the future.
Again, I don't recommend the above if you just want to get your nut as fast as possible and not waste time. If that's the case, negotiate on the floor, opt for the 15 min VIP, handle it, get out. That doesn't do anything for me anymore at this point in my life; I get a real kick out of my method described above. Albeit a much slower burn and at times you go home empty-handed, but if all the pieces fall together it's awesome. As John "Hannibal" Smith of the A-Team would say. "I love when a plan comes together. ".
[QUOTE=CumDripp;6992559]With all these discussion with tip after VIP, what happens if price is too high? Do you even tip some afterwards, does dance just end or does it just end up being a 15 min redundant lap dance?[/QUOTE]I've never had a dancer just end it and walk out. Normally, the just give me a lap dance. I'll tip a few bucks if the dance is good. Couple of times, I had a dancer get really piss when negotiation breaks down, and just give me air dance out of spite. Of course, no tip in those cases.
I kind of miss BI where they had individual review for dancers. So, you don't go into a VIP blind. Sure, YMMV and you might not get the deal the last guy did, but you know she within your price range and is not a GPS.
Any try out Fendi at Syn? Looking to make the trip soon and haven't been to syn since before covid days.
[QUOTE=HiddenStrip;6995910]Any try out Fendi at Syn? Looking to make the trip soon and haven't been to syn since before covid days.[/QUOTE]Didn't try, but think she quoted me a ridiculous number.
[QUOTE=HiddenStrip;6995910]Any try out Fendi at Syn? Looking to make the trip soon and haven't been to syn since before covid days.[/QUOTE]I recall others saying that she had a really high number as well. The one time I met her I only got a 3 for 40 dance. Very early on she asked for another 20 to get nude, which I declined. Good topless dances but with that initial interaction I decided it wasn't worth asking about more.
FWIW she's got purple hair now based on social media. She looked better before.
I see dfk mentioned every now and then. How do you guys get it? Pre covid I remember making out with dancers no problem (of course I was a couple years younger, fitter and more attractive LOL). Now over the last year whenever I ask they always say no. I suppose it varies person to person but most if not all say no to it. Going down on them is generally more open (and I'm sure has its own risk obviously). But no one ever wants me around their face LOL. Of course I suppose it all comes down to risk and the girls are protecting themselves, I always assumed maybe they protecting their make up LOL.
[QUOTE=KevlarProof;6996418]I see dfk mentioned every now and then. How do you guys get it? Pre covid I remember making out with dancers no problem (of course I was a couple years younger, fitter and more attractive LOL). Now over the last year whenever I ask they always say no. I suppose it varies person to person but most if not all say no to it. Going down on them is generally more open (and I'm sure has its own risk obviously). But no one ever wants me around their face LOL. Of course I suppose it all comes down to risk and the girls are protecting themselves, I always assumed maybe they protecting their make up LOL.[/QUOTE]I would suggest against DFK because these women have had so many dicks in their mouths and prob had multiple the same day you take them to VIP. But usually when I have had that with dancers I'm off that whiskey and tequila. You have two options with this. The dancer has to find you attractive and you can tell with the eye contact they make with you in VIP. Most dancer lie and say how cute you are but if they make super deep up in personal eye contact and all in your face and don't back away or look away they usually want to dfk. Second option the dancer is hall of fame badge thot which is saying something with the dancers that be at the clubs. They will do CBJ or dfk with anybody and with super low tips. They usually are very unattractive and out of shap. Typical fatty at paradise. Hope that help.
Almost forgot if they are super drunk or high they will prob do it too.
Also if you do dfk with a dancer wash your mouth out with rubbing alcohol.
[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6996862]Also if you do dfk with a dancer wash your mouth out with rubbing alcohol.[/QUOTE]This is why you shouldn't take medical advice from a strip club forum. "Wash your mouth out with rubbing alcohol"? Are you f'ing kidding? For external use only.