Non Pro's

There was a report on here from a while ago that she is up for 300 PPM. Apparently her last arrangement was 3 k / month.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb9f1d67-ebc9-4fd7-89ba-74f7b2b55726[/URL]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;5889023]What is SDM?[/QUOTE]Non pros: I put 1 and 1 together, so I'm guessing sugar daddy meet. Com? LOL.

[QUOTE=Loopguystl;5889235]There was a report on here from a while ago that she is up for 300 PPM. Apparently her last arrangement was 3 k / month.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb9f1d67-ebc9-4fd7-89ba-74f7b2b55726[/URL][/QUOTE]She looks like she's pushing 40.

Three strikes1.

Strike 1: Any woman who refers to herself as a queen is not someone I even give the time of day. They expect to be treated like a queen, but are really nothing more than a huge pain in the at ss.

Strike 2: Haircut like a boy's. Kind of a turn-off. She should have kept the long hair.

Strike 3: $800 is so beyond realistic for her. No. No, no, no, no, no.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5887928]Wants 800 per meet LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2cdb1896-9aef-4a66-863a-f5fe7d5b0e41[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5890058]Three strikes1.

Strike 1: Any woman who refers to herself as a queen is not someone I even give the time of day. They expect to be treated like a queen, but are really nothing more than a huge pain in the at ss.

Strike 2: Haircut like a boy's. Kind of a turn-off. She should have kept the long hair.

Strike 3: $800 is so beyond realistic for her. No. No, no, no, no, no.[/QUOTE]Sooo. She's a FEMINIST!

[QUOTE=Loopguystl;5889235]There was a report on here from a while ago that she is up for 300 PPM. Apparently her last arrangement was 3 k / month.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb9f1d67-ebc9-4fd7-89ba-74f7b2b55726[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5890011]She looks like she's pushing 40.[/QUOTE]Yeah she used to be 3. At first it was really hard to get her to respond, but once I got a few pointers on what makes her click (thanks bro. You know who you are), she was eating out of my hand. I would not pay her 3 K. She is good but not that good.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5891686]Yeah she used to be 3. At first it was really hard to get her to respond, but once I got a few pointers on what makes her click (thanks bro. You know who you are), she was eating out of my hand. I would not pay her 3 K. She is good but not that good.[/QUOTE]Share the pointers, sounds like you are done with her.

Was struggling to set up something this trip, finally connected with this one. Chatted all the way up to 45 minutes before our date.

Then poof gone, good thing she was coming to me. Blocked now, homie don't play that.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8f0a9fcb-7871-4f52-9b58-80dcb6017059[/URL]

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5891686]Yeah she used to be 3. At first it was really hard to get her to respond, but once I got a few pointers on what makes her click (thanks bro. You know who you are), she was eating out of my hand. I would not pay her 3 K. She is good but not that good.[/QUOTE]Can confirm. Had her at 300 myself awhile back.

One common theme I keep seeing and have been experiencing on SA (and it's gotten worse since the pandemic) is the amount of GPS in this area, and that it's "better in other cities, or on the East Coast". I have yet to see anyone name specific cities where there is a lack of GPS, but would love to hear others experiences outside of the PNW.

I'm happy to host an Ava gangbang in Seattle or Bellevue if someone who knows her wants to set it up. From her description it sounds like something she'd be down with.

[QUOTE=CreamPieGuy543;5900105]One common theme I keep seeing and have been experiencing on SA (and it's gotten worse since the pandemic) is the amount of GPS in this area, and that it's "better in other cities, or on the East Coast". I have yet to see anyone name specific cities where there is a lack of GPS, but would love to hear others experiences outside of the PNW.[/QUOTE]SA is (was. I was banned and haven't been able to get back on) my go-to for setting up entertainment when I travel. I don't think GPS is the worst in Seattle. Like if you go to Miami, hookers are super cheap but SA girls are even more expensive. But SA girls in say, Biloxi, Kansas City or Knoxville? Those girls are definitely cheaper compared to Seattle. I remember when I was working out the details for this girl in St. Joseph, Missouri and I came in with "$150" and she said "$150 every time?" in an excited manner. She thought that I was offering $150 once and then I'd get to fuck her every day for a week or something. I clearly had no idea what she was dealing with on a day to day basis.

But it depends on if you're willing to put in the work. Like this girl Sarah I used to meet up with in Pensacola. With her, it was like a $100 thing every time we met up, but that could be groceries, her cell phone bill, buying some clothes for her kids etc. She'd spend the whole day with me and we'd meet up with her kids and take them out too. But it's a lot of talking, a lot listening, a lot of. You know, kind of normal dating stuff and I'm not sure that that everyone is ready for that type of commitment. The trade off is that I got to fuck her all day and all evening with the only breaks being when we'd go out for dining or other entertainment.

The SA thing is a completely different game than STG and quite frankly, it's way, way better. I think back on the girls that I hooked up with on STG or even the other board and I wonder what the hell I was ever thinking.

Any intel on this one? Been chatting her up, but I'm getting picture seller vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a96ebf4c-82d6-4048-a685-73979ae9a761[/URL]

[QUOTE=Asianguy;5900147]I'm happy to host an Ava gangbang in Seattle or Bellevue if someone who knows her wants to set it up. From her description it sounds like something she'd be down with.[/QUOTE]She's no stranger to gangbangs. Probably likely to catch her attention if you lead with that.

First time using SA for finding hookups and overall I found it to be much easier than expected.

I've been chatting with Sofia [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/efe5a524-f9c7-4470-985d-acfc44aeb5cb[/URL] and she offered $500 for ppm. Anyone else had experience with her?

Does anyone have any good leads on wyp? Feel free to private message if you prefer not to post. Thank you!

[QUOTE=TheBrogrammer;5903508]Does anyone have any good leads on wyp? Feel free to private message if you prefer not to post. Thank you![/QUOTE]Contact the ones you like and ask them to suggest a price. I've been on at least 20 dates on the site. I've gotten laid on probably 75% of them, some of them wanted extra money but others just thought I was "charming". I should mention that when I ask about other dates they had on the site the answers have always been. "The guy thought since they paid me money, they expected sex. " and "The guy acted like he owned me because he paid for the date. ".

Treat them like a normal date, don't talk about sex, be respectful, let them talk about themselves, ask them open ended questions based on what they've said (so they know you're listening), don't talk about yourself (too much). For me, WYP is just a way to open the door for someone that had no interest in me to actually sit and talk to me for an hour. I take them to a nice restaurant (dinner about $175-200 total bill) and that usually impresses the fuck out of them. On your end, if they want a second date DO NOT PAY FOR IT. This is important as they will milk you into paying for dates forever. I dumped my GF I met from there and now have a rotation of 4 girls, 3 of them I've met on WYP. Also, a very good cheap date they all love is dinner (at a lower priced, non-chain restaurant) and then a comedy club.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5903960]Contact the ones you like and ask them to suggest a price..[/QUOTE]Being banned from SA and also being really, really disappointed by Secret Benefits, this really intrigues me. My game with SBs is already to treat things like a normal date so this falls right in line with what I normally do. What is the typical price for a first date?

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5904166]Being banned from SA and also being really, really disappointed by Secret Benefits, this really intrigues me. My game with SBs is already to treat things like a normal date so this falls right in line with what I normally do. What is the typical price for a first date?[/QUOTE]For me, my limit is $150. Above that and I think they are being greedy or will be a pain in the ass. So, all of my dates have been $100-150. If we start talking about a date and they say anything about getting coffee, then I'm out. They just want to meet at a Starbucks for 15 minutes collect their money and go. No, they need to dress up, show up and make an effort for an hour.

Non-sexually, I haven't had a "bad" date on the site yet. No one sat and looked at their phone the whole time, no one went to the bathroom and disappeared, no one acted like they just wanted the money (though some did). It really is a good site if you have a little game. The younger ones, tend to be looking more for a SD, but at about 35 and up, they really are happy just to go on a date and have a man spend money on them.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5904527]...
Non-sexually, I haven't had a "bad" date on the site yet. No one sat and looked at their phone the whole time, no one went to the bathroom and disappeared, no one acted like they just wanted the money (though some did). It really is a good site if you have a little game. The younger ones, tend to be looking more for a SD, but at about 35 and up, they really are happy just to go on a date and have a man spend money on them.[/QUOTE]My experience is that if you take them to a pretty nice restaurant most of them are very impressed and further negotiations are much easier. Kind of like dating civilians.

You don't need to go full Canlis on them. Any one of the Daniel's Broiler or Anthony's Home Port locations is probably a nicer restaurant than they've ever been to in their entire life. Also, if you make a little effort to figure out what kind of scene they are into it can make it a much more positive experience for both of you. You can also figure out a lot about them watching how they behave at a nice restaurant. If they start acting like a Baby Karen you know to drop her like toxic waste.

It is tougher in Eastern WA because there aren't that many really nice restaurants.

[url]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb2ac79c-0b2b-4139-9af2-0115cb586a70[/url]

Ugh. Started out saying she's not into ppm, knowing I'm probably not interested I continued, she balked at $1000/ mo allowance (that I'd never pay anyway). Private pics she's hiding her stomach, tits and arms suggest she's rather hefty. Bad attitude to boot, says she's not getting many takers. Gee I wonder why.

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5905260][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1d6e9abd-76d0-42f9-9d09-e393aa2fc42f[/URL]

Ugh. Started out saying she's not into ppm, knowing I'm probably not interested I continued, she balked at $1000/ mo allowance (that I'd never pay anyway). Private pics she's hiding her stomach, tits and arms suggest she's rather hefty. Bad attitude to boot, says she's not getting many takers. Gee I wonder why.[/QUOTE]What's her name? You linked to your message inbox.

[QUOTE=Asianguy;5905275]What's her name? You linked to your message inbox.[/QUOTE]Damnit, here's the link. Seductivecutie.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb2ac79c-0b2b-4139-9af2-0115cb586a70[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5905287]Damnit, here's the link. Seductivecutie.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cb2ac79c-0b2b-4139-9af2-0115cb586a70[/URL][/QUOTE]I chatted despite the same story of allowance monthly damn she's got some attitude! Told me a story about a guy who she stalked and tracked down real info after not falling through the arrangement so be aware people! Stay safe.

This has been my experience as well. Although I have met for coffee first and had it go from quickie in car to being ghosted. Found cute redhead from Lynnwood on kik but she was also on wyp. She will meet up on nights don't feel like driving to North Seattle and she is sure bet but she is a safety girl although does swallow. Met her first at Airport Video to talk and discuss things and only cost to keep the video booth going. Just have to be patient and be a gentleman is what I have found.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5903960]Contact the ones you like and ask them to suggest a price. I've been on at least 20 dates on the site. I've gotten laid on probably 75% of them, some of them wanted extra money but others just thought I was "charming". I should mention that when I ask about other dates they had on the site the answers have always been. "The guy thought since they paid me money, they expected sex. " and "The guy acted like he owned me because he paid for the date. ".

Treat them like a normal date, don't talk about sex, be respectful, let them talk about themselves, ask them open ended questions based on what they've said (so they know you're listening), don't talk about yourself (too much). For me, WYP is just a way to open the door for someone that had no interest in me to actually sit and talk to me for an hour. I take them to a nice restaurant (dinner about $175-200 total bill) and that usually impresses the fuck out of them. On your end, if they want a second date DO NOT PAY FOR IT. This is important as they will milk you into paying for dates forever. I dumped my GF I met from there and now have a rotation of 4 girls, 3 of them I've met on WYP. Also, a very good cheap date they all love is dinner (at a lower priced, non-chain restaurant) and then a comedy club.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CountryBoi81;5906203]Found cute redhead from Lynnwood on kik but she was also on wyp. She will meet up on nights don't feel like driving to North Seattle and she is sure bet but she is a safety girl although does swallow. Met her first at Airport Video to talk and discuss things and only cost to keep the video booth going. [/QUOTE]Would it be this one by any chance?

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/D739YwOLk5g4YyB0GjyENdXv[/URL]

I have moved away from the Seattle area, but will be coming back at the end of the month for work, and would love to have an evening distraction.

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5906495]Would it be this one by any chance?

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/D739YwOLk5g4YyB0GjyENdXv[/URL]

I have moved away from the Seattle area, but will be coming back at the end of the month for work, and would love to have an evening distraction.[/QUOTE]Yep. Sent PM.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5904527]For me, my limit is $150. Above that and I think they are being greedy or will be a pain in the ass. So, all of my dates have been $100-150. If we start talking about a date and they say anything about getting coffee, then I'm out. They just want to meet at a Starbucks for 15 minutes collect their money and go. No, they need to dress up, show up and make an effort for an hour.

Non-sexually, I haven't had a "bad" date on the site yet. No one sat and looked at their phone the whole time, no one went to the bathroom and disappeared, no one acted like they just wanted the money (though some did). It really is a good site if you have a little game. The younger ones, tend to be looking more for a SD, but at about 35 and up, they really are happy just to go on a date and have a man spend money on them.[/QUOTE]This is a high quality response, thanks for taking the time to respond. If you have any names / profiles to share that were successes for you please send me a private message. Thank you!

Does anyone have any intel on these wyp new members? Perhaps they are on other sites and you have intel from there.

MiAmour - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q9Rm8D0jzarbyYv[/URL].

Florish - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/okY13bKlJlGlqd4AneVE27Ma[/URL].

SassyGirl - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/bwoaV92O5KQb3b9AkBzevjlr[/URL].

HeyitsTr0 uble - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/eQwL3daOJLXLYVbJVWNXKjk6[/URL].

Mimi - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/XlOvwWa609Ppk3g5ozpZgVeD[/URL].

Olivia - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/myW2ordn5jjo4pG56wY9ZQlM[/URL].

BritneyChristine - [URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/MVr93jPpAxV3Dlx5RdDOxW4n[/URL].

Want's $1000 PPM. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/651a31c6-fdb9-4428-a2e0-3159908cf6f5[/URL].

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e4d26f05-da0e-46d9-8974-75d4b336e047[/URL]

$400 on casual meets.

$1000 on intimate ones.

$400 for her to grace you with her presence. LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/82145ef0-890d-44d0-bc27-a4218d7f2636[/URL]

First says $600 PPM. Then informs you she is post op trans. Not for me!

So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.

A lot of them wanted to meet for a price. I did just one and she was phucking weird. We meet at Daniels and when she sat down next to me I put my hand on her leg and she jumped 10 feet in the air and put 6' between us. That my friends was the biggest red flag I have ever seen. I should have just walked out the door and gone to The Spot in Renton and had a beer. But noooo, I wanted to see how this played out. And guess what, ok you guessed right. She was wacky as they come. Had dinner and said I talk with you later. The then texted me an hour later saying how much fun she had and wanted to do it again. She even put hearts on it. Um NO.

Over the month I favorited over 80 babies. I would say 6 looked at my profile and didn't respond. I always send a nice message when I favored a baby.

I stayed off for a week and not one baby viewed my profile. Now I don't know if it's my age or there are too many fakes on there. I have been told that I one don't look my age and two I am handsome by girls around me that have no agenda.

So bottom line I think 95% of there profiles on there are fake or crazy. I'll keep you posted on the two babies I might try to kook up with.

Have a great hunt my friends.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play..[/QUOTE]You know, I read your post and gave it quite a bit of thought because I think very, very highly of SA. Like so much so that I can't believe I ever wasted my time touching a TNA, STG, or whatever girl. While I do agree that a lot of the profiles (most of the profiles?) are fake, there are just so many women on there that it doesn't matter. It makes it a lot more work to dig through things, but with SA I always have more options than I can schedule. But maybe it is an age thing. I'm 45 and fit so maybe that makes a difference? The reason why I say this is that another guy on here had commented that he's gotten to an age where SBs are less likely to fuck him for free and I too agree with that. It used to be in the past that I'd take them to a nice restaurant, do some sort of activity, and then we'd go back to my place in exchange for some financial help. But after that, it was really common to have the girl contact me because she wanted to be taken out again and it would all play out the same way except no money would be exchanged. I found that over the past couple years, that doesn't happen anymore and in fact, I recently asked one of my SA girls if they wanted to go to Las Vegas with me one weekend and she replied that while it sounds fun, she really needs financial help so she'd prefer I help her that way rather than take her traveling. That has NEVER happened before!

So maybe in 20 years, I'll be in the same situation that you're describing. My initial instinct was that you're doing it all wrong (I. E. That you're "attracted" to fake profiles as opposed to real ones etc.), but maybe it's something more intrinsic to you. You said you don't look your age and women have called you handsome. Have you considered lying about your age on SA? As men, we don't do that shit but I'm really curious if maybe you're somehow older than what those SA girls want?

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.

A lot of them wanted to meet for a price. I did just one and she was phucking weird. We meet at Daniels and when she sat down next to me I put my hand on her leg and she jumped 10 feet in the air and put 6' between us. That my friends was the biggest red flag I have ever seen. I should have just walked out the door and gone to The Spot in Renton and had a beer. But noooo, I wanted to see how this played out. And guess what, ok you guessed right. She was wacky as they come. Had dinner and said I talk with you later. The then texted me an hour later saying how much fun she had and wanted to do it again. She even put hearts on it. .


Have a great hunt my friends.[/QUOTE]There are probably a variety of factors involving your lack of success. First off though, you don't put your hand on someone's leg that you just met. Actually, don't even touch someone new unless they initiate it.

The rest is difficult. It could be a bad photo (I have a female friend who is on SA that regularly sends me terrible photos of men that contacted her). It could be who you're contacting, someone 20 YO isn't going to want be with someone their grandfather's age. Realistically, you should be concentrating on people in their 40's. In the end, your age is probably the biggest factor.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5910262]So my membership runs out tomorrow and ended up finding 2 possible babies both want $400 to play.

So I really looked at what was really happening. I'm 66 and a big guy. 6'2" 250. Just so you know what these babies where looking at.

Over 98% of the messages I got they never looked at my profile. 60% were messages being returned after I favorited and wrote them a message. So tell me if you got a message from a baby what is the first thing you do: LOOK AT THEIR PROFILE.


So bottom line I think 95% of there profiles on there are fake or crazy. I'll keep you posted on the two babies I might try to kook up with.[/QUOTE]A couple things:

I am also 66 but put my birthday in 1965 instead of 1955. I also look much younger but I'm also in good condition, 6 ft, 180 lbs. I've never been questioned on my age.

I'm also amazed how few girls look at my profile. I think they must just go through their search results and favorite every guy. I don't show a face pic, just a rear photo. If we get to the point that we are messaging, I'll attach a face pic in the message.

I only pay SA if I'm on the hunt. Then I get serious about seeking, messaging, etc.

I've actually had better success with the mid-20's girls. I think the over 35 are looking more long term. I might be wrong but there's more younger ones looking for cash. My profile shows me as higher income.

My current regular is kind of expensive, $5 per playtime. But it's at her apartment, she's not cash strapped, and she loves sex. She works from home and we play in the late morning when my energy level is best. After we hooked up she hasn't even logged onto SA so it's all bare sex which is also a bonus. But. I can't help it, I going to start looking for some variety. I'd like to meet a 40-45 yr old to get something different.

So my recommendation, lie about your age, increase your net worth and income if you can back it up, improve your pics and like Michael said, mind your manners. Dress nice, don't wear cologne, learn to talk about them and compliment.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5910446]There are probably a variety of factors involving your lack of success. First off though, you don't put your hand on someone's leg that you just met. Actually, don't even touch someone new unless they initiate it.[/QUOTE]I wasn't going to give him a hard time about that because I know that all guys are different and what a guy can get away with also greatly varies. But at the same time, I also agree that you shouldn't touch her until she initiates or at least invites you to do so. The fact that the guy did that was pretty cringey as these aren't STG girls who immediately drop their clothes, climb into the bed and stick their ass up for you. I don't even say anything mildly sexual until we're back at my place and I've finished giving her the house tour. The tour typically finishes at the upstairs bedroom, she might make a comment about the view and then boom, the hookup naturally starts.

And the thing is, I'm not some hot Chad. I'm a 5'4" Asian guy with a below-average penis but at the same time, I wonder if being that type of guy has forced me to have better conversation skills and more game because quite frankly, no woman dreams about being fucked by a short Asian guy. So while I don't know the OPs exact situation, I would say to play it cooler on the initial meet and just work on talking to her. I guarantee that 90% of the time, she'll fuck you after dinner simply because she had a good time.

How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.

On a related topic, when I was on SA last year tons of women looked at my profile, liked, and had conversations. I joined again last month and it is pulling teeth to get any attention.

I haven't really changed my profile. What gives?

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5910976]I also agree that you shouldn't touch her until she initiates or at least invites you to do so.[/QUOTE]I have heard many times from girls that one of the reasons I ended up fucking them on the first date was in part because I was not all over them and give them space to make up their minds.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5910976]And the thing is, I'm not some hot Chad. I'm a 5'4" Asian guy with a below-average penis but at the same time, I wonder if being that type of guy has forced me to have better conversation skills and more game because quite frankly, no woman dreams about being fucked by a short Asian guy. So while I don't know the OPs exact situation, I would say to play it cooler on the initial meet and just work on talking to her. I guarantee that 90% of the time, she'll fuck you after dinner simply because she had a good time.[/QUOTE]Very sensible post. Most here treat women like shit or property. I am actually very athletic (no six pack abs, but lean and well manicured and well dressed) and above average in looks. At least that is what most women tell me. In spite of that I take your advice. I. E. Very respectful, polite (but not a chump either) and do not usually initiate a touch or grab until I get the green light. Most women will not initiate but they will give you ample signals that touching is welcome and I wait for at least the third or fourth signal after dinner a lot of wine and laughs to initiate anything. Being yourself, being genuine, polite, kind but also respecting your own boundaries (I. E. Not being an agreeable chump for every topic) is actually extremely attractive to women. Regardless of where / how you meet them.