"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I had the discount offer on my phone show up but when I went to use it later I could not find it.

Any ideas Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;6032536]I had the discount offer on my phone show up but when I went to use it later I could not find it.

Any ideas Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]Those 20 and 25 percent offers pop up randomly. I might get it 3 or 4 times a day and then its a few days later before another one pops up. The thing is you have to use right then, you get off the payment page showing the discount, it's gone. If you have an old profile you haven't used in ages, it will usually show the discount when you log on. I keep two profiles and have switched between them keep the discounts going.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6025395]Sorry, Mr. ER89, I don't think you get to define what people do here. And in particular, I think if you are in the habit of passing girls around that you've FCed with, you're really just a glorified monger. All of your high and mighty stuff about the right way to treat SBs, but then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys? That is just escort world. Even if UTR.

If a girl has a menu, she is an escort. If a girl has a time limit, she is an escort. There are escorts on SA to be sure, and if that is the experience you want, go for it, "hun". It isn't the reason I am on SA, and I have a good reason to be here without that.

This is a de facto national sugar baby thread. Many people who aren't in Richmond post here. So I never would seek intel about a profile from someone here, because I am 3000 miles away.[/QUOTE]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.

This is to all of us not a particular member

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6025767]ECCIE is a fucking shithole. Has some of the most angry and delusional mongers out there. Since the chicks post it's nothing but a drama-filled echo chamber with an equal number of white knights. Only useful for reading and laughing.[/QUOTE]We are just as bad, the girls aren't here but they talk through their johns, since we are literally johns.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;6033192]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.

This is to all of us not a particular member[/QUOTE]As you'll find if you read this thread more often, you get exactly the bowl you are looking for. If you want to monger, you can find the sleaziest.

I can tell you that I and many guys I have seen post here have had relationships from SA that you could not define as escort-like. But if you don't want that, knock yourself out.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;6033192]I never said anything about being the nice guy or the good guy, we are really all the villains here. I'm not defining anything, I'm just calling about behavior that doesn't help the collective. What counts as passing? Several people brag about giving out the girls personal numbers, I don't do that, if you want intel on a profile sure, the menu, cost, and key details to help someone out I don't mind sharing that. "glorified monger" that describes nearly everyone here, at least I don't lord money over them like several senior members that cried to the mods / admins about getting called on stealthing, which is a crime. " then wanting to get a menu and prices from other guys?" you mean what 90% of the board is, that's literally every board in each state asking those questions and posting the girls profile, and people doxing them via arrest records like look in the mirror and do some self reflection, we aren't the heros we try to act as.

[b]SB are escorts, with more steps. Don't kid yourself. You are a John, and they are escorts.[/b]

This is to all of us not a particular member[/QUOTE]100%. Some folks on here get really upset when they get told the truth. You aren't a sugar daddy (unless you are keeping these girls in an apartment, car, and any other spending needs). If you aren't locking her down with your sugar money, you're a monger, and they're a hooker. Seems the delusion that isn't just one-sided with the chicks.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6033353]100%. Some folks on here get really upset when they get told the truth. You aren't a sugar daddy (unless you are keeping these girls in an apartment, car, and any other spending needs). If you aren't locking her down with your sugar money, you're a monger, and they're a hooker. Seems the delusion that isn't just one-sided with the chicks.[/QUOTE]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. Remember they had allowance tiers in their profiles. For guys, it was their budget. For girls, what they expected per month. Now Seeking is trying to be a "dating" site for the wealthy folks. Girls still talk about arrangements. There are lots of scammers, thieves, and girls expecting to be compensated by the hour.

In the very beginning, I tried setting up a girl in an apartment with her signing the lease and I helping with the rent. Guess what. I was squeezed out of seeing her and down 3 grand. Most wealthy guys will not risk their assets or safety using such a dangerous platform as seeking (arrangements). If a guy was truly connected and has $, he would find willing girls in his circle. That's my take. The website seeking can't shake its history or reputation. It invites scammers by its very nature.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033370]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. Remember they had allowance tiers in their profiles. For guys, it was their budget. For girls, what they expected per month. Now Seeking is trying to be a "dating" site for the wealthy folks. Girls still talk about arrangements. There are lots of scammers, thieves, and girls expecting to be compensated by the hour.

In the very beginning, I tried setting up a girl in an apartment with her signing the lease and I helping with the rent. Guess what. I was squeezed out of seeing her and down 3 grand. Most wealthy guys will not risk their assets or safety using such a dangerous platform as seeking (arrangements). If a guy was truly connected and has $, he would find willing girls in his circle. That's my take. The website seeking can't shake its history or reputation. It invites scammers by its very nature.[/QUOTE]I've gotten more "sugarbabies" (hookers that don't think they are) off the site than I ever did through the subscription. Everyone talking about "game" should just play the game in the wild. Seeking is just another hooker advertising site, whether folks want to admit it or not.

comment: HOLY SHIT! I'd never co-sign anything with these girls.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;6033399]I've gotten more "sugarbabies" (hookers that don't think they are) off the site than I ever did through the subscription. Everyone talking about "game" should just play the game in the wild. Seeking is just another hooker advertising site, whether folks want to admit it or not.

comment: HOLY SHIT! I'd never co-sign anything with these girls.[/QUOTE]I didn't co-sign anything. You should reread what I wrote and what I was responding to.

I paid the $ for 2 months rent and security and after a few times spent at the place she cut off contact with me. I did that because I thought that's how the game was played, loyalty and all.

The guy I responded to said for the girl not to be a hooker and to be a sugar babe you need to pay their rent, car payment and some expenses. That's nonsense because most of them will try to cut you off the first chance they get something they think is better.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033370]Seeking went from seeking arrangements to seeking. They did this because they wanted to shake the reputation of being a conduit for facilitating prostitution. [/QUOTE]Not to gloss over this point as it is the reason dudes get banned so fast these days. But, Seeking made the changes they made because of FOSTA / SESTA law that was passed to shutdown BP. Given what you mentioned about income levels and expected levels for meeting in the past, yeah the have to "shake the semblance of being a conduit for prostitution. " But they are doing more by firmly banning anything that looks like or smells like prostitution. Brandon Wade is trying to save his cash cow and stay out of jail. Those dudes at BP could likely have made adjustments to prevent under-aged and trafficking and still been around today. So Wade is being proactive and I am sure hopes he is building an affirmative defense.

You guys have obviously gotten onto the wrong part of the Richmond page. If you really think your view is the right one, there is a thread called 'Escort Reports' just for you.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6033783]Not to gloss over this point as it is the reason dudes get banned so fast these days. But, Seeking made the changes they made because of FOSTA / SESTA law that was passed to shutdown BP. Given what you mentioned about income levels and expected levels for meeting in the past, yeah the have to "shake the semblance of being a conduit for prostitution. " But they are doing more by firmly banning anything that looks like or smells like prostitution. Brandon Wade is trying to save his cash cow and stay out of jail. Those dudes at BP could likely have made adjustments to prevent under-aged and trafficking and still been around today. So Wade is being proactive and I am sure hopes he is building an affirmative defense.[/QUOTE]I think the site is beyond saving. There's so many scam artists, mixed in with thieves, pros, seemingly innocent College girls who want texting buddies and allowances, etc. I went to College a few decades ago. I knew of a couple girls my age back then who got their rent and some spending $ through having relations with much older guys. There was no internet back then. They went to parties or functions and mixed. Wade's getting rid of Arrangement word can't get rid of the terminology that girls or guys use on the site. It's reputation is arrangements, and its users use the site accordingly to their agenda: to scam, utr, pro, arrangement, thieve, whatever.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6033263]As you'll find if you read this thread more often, you get exactly the bowl you are looking for. If you want to monger, you can find the sleaziest.

I can tell you that I and many guys I have seen post here have had relationships from SA that you could not define as escort-like. But if you don't want that, knock yourself out.[/QUOTE]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.

[QUOTE=JohnLongDong;6033905]I personally would love to find a College girl who just loves older men and that's their biggest motivation in joining Seeking. There are very few left on the site who fall into the category. Have you experienced otherwise? I have experienced mostly scam artists and thieves.[/QUOTE]Indeed I have. And I am eligible for social security. I have had at least one FC w / many girls in college in their early 20's, even a few teenagers (I was over 3 x their age). I think it all depends on your locale. I am in southern California. Every sugar bowl is local.

I have a trip upcoming to Chicago and I am fishing in their sugar bowl in advance. One issue is that there are a those who portray they are looking for long term. Obviously, as a visitor, I can't too easily promise that. My approach. Some list short term in their profiles, but I am also searching specifically within the Open Relationship and Married but Looking categories, figuring that it might be appealing to them that I already have a place to meet up, something that can be hard to arrange in some situations w / guys who have a SO (like me).

Does anyone have any other indicators to a POT who would be amenable to a guy just flying into town for business?