"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

On this occasion I offered my ATF SB a challenge. She had 15 minutes to make junior squirt. If she did that, her fee for the tryst would double. If not, I would get a future freebie. Always up for something new, she enthusiastically went to work. What she didn't know is that I had whacked-off twice in the previous hour before seeing her and was pretty stoned, the last few tokes right beforehand. I wanted to make sure I would have this continuous rolling / edging orgasm without full completion, which is exactly what happened. She was a bit sad with this result but I offered her double or nothing for another 15 minutes, which was also readily accepted. After another 15 minutes of pure ecstasy, but no spray, she was cutely pouting and perplexed, because she had always been able to create a gusher before without too much effort. So, I offered a third challenge: keep sucking until there was a result and we would be even. OMFG! I know it was at least 30 minutes or more but it felt deliciously like hours. In the end, I had her give me a sloppy rim job while stroking and I finally erupted like Vesuvius all over her forehead and hair. She kept rimming and playing with me for what must have been an hour and I still felt like I was cumming! That was the best fucking feeling EVER!

Afterwards I needed to chill out for a few hours because I was in no shape to drive. But I could still feel the lingering effects of that earth-shaking and seemingly never-ending climax. Just touching myself lightly felt incredibly good, as if each touch was magnified 100 times.

I definitely want to repeat this experience again and again and again.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6009330]Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

On this occasion I offered my ATF SB a challenge. She had 15 minutes to make junior squirt. If she did that, her fee for the tryst would double. If not, I would get a future freebie. Always up for something new, she enthusiastically went to work. What she didn't know is that I had whacked-off twice in the previous hour before seeing her and was pretty stoned, the last few tokes right beforehand. I wanted to make sure I would have this continuous rolling / edging orgasm without full completion, which is exactly what happened. She was a bit sad with this result but I offered her double or nothing for another 15 minutes, which was also readily accepted. After another 15 minutes of pure ecstasy, but no spray, she was cutely pouting and perplexed, because she had always been able to create a gusher before without too much effort. So, I offered a third challenge: keep sucking until there was a result and we would be even. OMFG! I know it was at least 30 minutes or more but it felt deliciously like hours. In the end, I had her give me a sloppy rim job while stroking and I finally erupted like Vesuvius all over her forehead and hair. She kept rimming and playing with me for what must have been an hour and I still felt like I was cumming! That was the best fucking feeling EVER!

Afterwards I needed to chill out for a few hours because I was in no shape to drive. But I could still feel the lingering effects of that earth-shaking and seemingly never-ending climax. Just touching myself lightly felt incredibly good, as if each touch was magnified 100 times.

I definitely want to repeat this experience again and again and again.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or is this an exclusive relationship you have with her?

Thanks,

RR.

[QUOTE=VAvet;5964271]Yes she's back from a short vacation. Gained a fair amount of weight and does not look very good frankly. And you always have to be careful, don't let her wander off with your money (eg "I got to give the cash to my friend real quick I'll be right back" LOL.[/QUOTE]Has anyone met up with her since she's been back. All my experiences were positive although I know that wasn't the case for everyone. I've tried to see her but communication has been a real challenge. Not concerned if she put on a few pounds, I like that. More interested if she is still freaky with no known limits.

Stay safe.

RR.

[QUOTE=RomanRich;6009523]Do you have a link or is this an exclusive relationship you have with her?

Thanks,

RR.[/QUOTE]I have not asked her to be exclusive. I see other women and she might see other men, for all I know. She has not asked me this question nor have I asked her. She can be scatter-brained and forgetful and has a bad habit of staying out of contact for long periods of time. Whether that is deliberate or just her nature I wouldn't know. I tolerate that because she is not my sole source of sexual fun and she is so fantastic when we do get together that I appreciate sporadic dates for what they are.

As for a "link:" I don't believe she has advertised on a sugar site. In any event, I didn't find her on a sugar site. I have explained at length in the past that I prefer to do my sugaring "in the wild" so to speak.

[QUOTE=Round3;6008942]She must be reaching out to everyone as she just messaged me a howdy do and I viewed her yesterday.[/QUOTE]She wanted to meet and so I suggested an initial meet and greet for coffee or a drink and she said that would be $150 for that. I said just to talk. She said yes, so I said no. Good luck with her, she obviously values all her time.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6008066]But I only got the covered experience.

Also, after telling me she is out, both of her profiles were active last night, and not to deactivate.

I guess I can take the hint.[/QUOTE]She asked. 300 just for m&g and 6 900 ppm. Is she worth? I smell gps.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6009707]I have not asked her to be exclusive. I see other women and she might see other men, for all I know. She has not asked me this question nor have I asked her. She can be scatter-brained and forgetful and has a bad habit of staying out of contact for long periods of time. Whether that is deliberate or just her nature I wouldn't know. I tolerate that because she is not my sole source of sexual fun and she is so fantastic when we do get together that I appreciate sporadic dates for what they are.

As for a "link:" I don't believe she has advertised on a sugar site. In any event, I didn't find her on a sugar site. I have explained at length in the past that I prefer to do my sugaring "in the wild" so to speak.[/QUOTE]By exclusive I meant you weren't willing to share her right now. I forgot you prefer to hunt in the wild so your conquests are really shared. Nice catch and good to hear the success someone is having.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6009330]Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

I definitely want to repeat this experience again and again and again.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, I too have learned to extend and stretch the orgasmic climax feeling. Before I tell her to stop after I nut. Today if I drink and smoke, I can continuously nut as I give specific instructions to slow down and its just a leaky hose and as I review video. Its just constant jizz exploding as she continues for numerous minutes or more.

Monger on.

[QUOTE=Ronson1;6010335]She asked. 300 just for m&g and 6 900 ppm. Is she worth? I smell gps.[/QUOTE]Only guys that are going to get rinsed pay ANY money to a girl for a M&G! The M&G is a JOB INTERVIEW and if she isn't willing to spend her time to see if you are a fit / match, then move on to the next one. There is an old saying her in the Sugar Bowl- the Sugar flows when the panties hit the floor!

Second with ANY mongering one of the key rules is NO MONEY UP FRONT ever!

So yeah, that 600 or 900 ppm is outrageous, but one doesn't need to even get there. The 300 for a M&G instantly eliminates her. Move on, save your money!

Look if you go around paying a girl for a job interview you are going to end up with "sucker" tattooed on your forehead. Word will get around that you are an easy mark and you'll be battling scammers and schemers. Just don't do it!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6011367]Only guys that are going to get rinsed pay ANY money to a girl for a M&G! The M&G is a JOB INTERVIEW and if she isn't willing to spend her time to see if you are a fit / match, then move on to the next one. There is an old saying her in the Sugar Bowl- the Sugar flows when the panties hit the floor!

Second with ANY mongering one of the key rules is NO MONEY UP FRONT ever!

So yeah, that 600 or 900 ppm is outrageous, but one doesn't need to even get there. The 300 for a M&G instantly eliminates her. Move on, save your money!

Look if you go around paying a girl for a job interview you are going to end up with "sucker" tattooed on your forehead. Word will get around that you are an easy mark and you'll be battling scammers and schemers. Just don't do it![/QUOTE]I creampied her for a lot less, without a M&G. These suckers ruin it for everyone. The girls start thinking they are worth whatever the biggest loser will pay.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;6011376]I creampied her for a lot less, without a M&G. These suckers ruin it for everyone. The girls start thinking they are worth whatever the biggest loser will pay.[/QUOTE]I had one Saturday, Babygirl25 in RVA that wanted 200 for pics, vids, and facetime before we meet in person to get to know each other. She blocked me when I said drinks would be fine enough to get to know each other.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6011367]Only guys that are going to get rinsed pay ANY money to a girl for a M&G! The M&G is a JOB INTERVIEW and if she isn't willing to spend her time to see if you are a fit / match, then move on to the next one. [/QUOTE]When they tell me they want a paid M&G -- even $50 or so -- I always say "How many of your last dates you went on outside of SA, paid you to have drinks or dinner with them? Most of your social group either lack the manners or means to buy you a decent meal."

Doesn't change their mind, since no one likes being told how crazy their idea is -- but might make them rethink the approach going forward.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;6011475]When they tell me they want a paid M&G -- even $50 or so -- I always say "How many of your last dates you went on outside of SA, paid you to have drinks or dinner with them? Most of your social group either lack the manners or means to buy you a decent meal."

Doesn't change their mind, since no one likes being told how crazy their idea is -- but might make them rethink the approach going forward.[/QUOTE]If someone wants to sell anything and there are no buyers, they have a few options: lower the price; increase the benefits; keep it on the market until some sucker buys it. If SBs run into resistance on paying up front, they will face these options. If SD buyers are willing to meet their terms, they will maintain their "prices. " One can fume and fuss and criticize SBs for being entitled biatches for wanting up front payments, but SDs will determine if this is going to work. I believe seasoned SDs already know that up front payments are not worth it and signal all kinds of further future problems with a SB who demands them. But newer and / or more desperate SDs may think this is what they have to do to get some quality tail. The sugar market will shake all of this out and there will be a result regardless what any one or group of SDs think about it. I have friends who only buy brand name merchandise. Me? I am a generic and value buyer. A few quick examples: I worked one summer in a corn canning factory: same, corn, same cans, different labels. The DelMonte labels fetched premium prices; the local supermarket versions were a lot lower in price. Another example: I need an expensive eye medication: it costs $350 a month. The generic version is $5 a month. That one is no contest. SBs are somewhat the same. You can get basically the same merchandise at a variety of prices, including the up front option. I don't denigrate sugar sites, but that is advertised brand name merchandise. Nothing wrong with brand names, but I can get generic versions in the wild for about 1/2 to 1/3 the price. Is it inferior merchandise? Maybe. I don't much care. All I know is that it doesn't come with an advertising premium, I get what I want and my sugar budget is fairly modest. Interviews are free and plentiful, and never, ever do I have to contend with up front payments.

This is the second time I've seen this young lady on here recently. Is there any contact info available to share?

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;6009330]Ever try a BJ when you are stoned? I highly recommend it. In the right zone you are on edge and feel like you are cumming forever.

On this occasion I offered my ATF SB a challenge. She had 15 minutes to make junior squirt. If she did that, her fee for the tryst would double. If not, I would get a future freebie. Always up for something new, she enthusiastically went to work. What she didn't know is that I had whacked-off twice in the previous hour before seeing her and was pretty stoned, the last few tokes right beforehand. I wanted to make sure I would have this continuous rolling / edging orgasm without full completion, which is exactly what happened. She was a bit sad with this result but I offered her double or nothing for another 15 minutes, which was also readily accepted. After another 15 minutes of pure ecstasy, but no spray, she was cutely pouting and perplexed, because she had always been able to create a gusher before without too much effort. So, I offered a third challenge: keep sucking until there was a result and we would be even. OMFG! I know it was at least 30 minutes or more but it felt deliciously like hours. In the end, I had her give me a sloppy rim job while stroking and I finally erupted like Vesuvius all over her forehead and hair. She kept rimming and playing with me for what must have been an hour and I still felt like I was cumming! That was the best fucking feeling EVER!.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TankGuyWva1980;6015697]This is the second time I've seen this young lady on here recently. Is there any contact info available to share?[/QUOTE]A lot of these Babies don't take kindly to be shared. Often the best we can hope for is someone isn't too attached or has enough Babies in their rotation to post a link to their SA. Then as long as you have a paid profile it's up to you to have the right bait & enough game to reel them in.

Too many of us have been bitten by the simp, white knights that tell them about the board & our sharing their info. Like that's going to get them any brownie points!