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I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.
[QUOTE=CreamHer333;5386066]I know she's a real person (plenty of social media).
But she's pricey.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14[/URL][/QUOTE]She's fun. See my report here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33035-Kegels-and-Tightest-Boxes&p=5352724&viewfull=1#post5352724[/URL]
[QUOTE=BobbyO;5385470]I joined MP Reviews and searched back three months for hot BBFS AMP girls. None found.[/QUOTE]BBFS in any scenario is often a matter of personal mileage. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
Many pro girls will allow BBFS only with a mark up, or to repeat customers. Sugar babies as non pros or semi pros are often more amenable to going bare on the first date with no additional allowance from what is initially negotiated.
Inflation and the laws of supply and demand have affected all markets, including pussy, and despite rosy prognostications and the occasional rare finds, rates and allowances are unlikely to go down anytime soon, if at all.
[QUOTE=Migs1224;5383880] Name her and shame her.[/QUOTE]This is a professional rinser with a sizeable social media following, who coaches young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/[/URL]
This creature coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she allegedly "never meets anyone. ".
I do not believe there are as many guys as she claims giving her thousands per month for just chatting. I think she is just a shill by the sugar websites. She gets paid by luring women into signing up ensuring the sugar sites a steady supply of new profiles. I bet it's cheaper for them that paying the Bulgarian content farmers to create multiple new ones every day. Note that she is warning girls to stay away from Seeking but is talking up Seeking Benefits. Hmmmmm. I wonder if someone was late paying or cut her off.
Bam.
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5388956]This is a professional rinser with a sizeable social media following, who coaches young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/vid...from_webapp=v3[/URL]
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/[/URL]
This creature coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she allegedly "never meets anyone. ".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5388902]She's fun. See my report here:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33035-Kegels-and-Tightest-Boxes&p=5352724&viewfull=1#post5352724[/URL][/QUOTE]What is she asking?
[QUOTE=BamBam;5389666]I do not believe there are as many guys as she claims giving her thousands per month for just chatting. I think she is just a shill by the sugar websites. She gets paid by luring women into signing up ensuring the sugar sites a steady supply of new profiles. I bet it's cheaper for them that paying the Bulgarian content farmers to create multiple new ones every day. Note that she is warning girls to stay away from Seeking but is talking up Seeking Benefits. Hmmmmm. I wonder if someone was late paying or cut her off.
Bam.[/QUOTE]They have to project opulence and flash the lifestyle to their army of followers. I'm sure she gets some simp cash. After all, we've seen the simps on here that love sending cash up front on cash app or apple pay or whatever the fu*.
But no way does she make thousands a month. She is a basic 5 at best.
It doesn't make sense for a site to have a female shill promoting it. If they get more girls to sign up, that increases the SB / SD ratio only marginally, and they don't make any more money directly for having more girls on the site.
What they would do, if they were dishonest, is to have a guy who gave out all his secrets for getting great girls at reasonable prices, to get more men to pay for a membership. To a certain extent, this site does that, but I don't recall anyone posting here, the Richmond sugar thread, etc. , being accused of fronting for SA.
[QUOTE=SunMoonStars11;5388725]I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.[/QUOTE]Meet at a starbucks. Then take a test drive in a quiet parking lot somewhere. At that point you'll know what your budget is. Or meet in the parking lot of or near your notel of choice. You get the idea.
[QUOTE=SunMoonStars11;5388725]I have messaged a few on SA who say the first meeting has to be in public (dinner and / or drinks) but you have to give them money in order to go out with them. I had one recently who said the first dinner meet is XX. 5 and then we can have fun every meeting after this. Now, this chick seemed totally legit but have any of you done this and had it go well? This woman is kind of my type but I I can't in my right mind pay to take someone out to dinner LOL.[/QUOTE]I did it once but never again. Also, if the profile is sashababy, you'll get action, but no xxx, in dinner date but will ghost you after. I got blocked after dinner date.
I have a SB who is interested in getting a little cosmetic surgery, and having me pick it up in lieu of sugar. Doing it in SoCal is way beyond a normal allowance, though. I am wondering if there is anyone w / experience getting medical procedures in Mexico / TJ who could advise about details. If the procedure were 20% of the US price, it would be about a month's allowance, and this is something I could imagine arranging w / my SB.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5392760]I have a SB who is interested in getting a little cosmetic surgery, and having me pick it up in lieu of sugar. Doing it in SoCal is way beyond a normal allowance, though. I am wondering if there is anyone w / experience getting medical procedures in Mexico / TJ who could advise about details. If the procedure were 20% of the US price, it would be about a month's allowance, and this is something I could imagine arranging w / my SB.[/QUOTE]If this is a small part of the package, everything is cheap in Algodones. Botox injections are $8 each. Yep, you heard me right. Veneers are cheap. I just had two dental implants and crowns put in for a grand total of $2350.
In the states they wanted to charge me 8 k. Quality work, too. They do breast enhancements there too. I see a hooker there every time I go. She has a nice set of implants.
I decided to try and an experiment and search for white girls. Was ready to double my highest rate and see what happened. This was about two weeks ago. I haven't even gotten that far before most either flaked or became so entitled that things went south. By entitled, I mean me not answering their texts quickly enough for their tastes. And the language! LOL. None of them are able to move on without hurling insults. It's pretty funny and insightful.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;5394877]I decided to try and an experiment and search for white girls. Was ready to double my highest rate and see what happened. This was about two weeks ago. I haven't even gotten that far before most either flaked or became so entitled that things went south. By entitled, I mean me not answering their texts quickly enough for their tastes. And the language! LOL. None of them are able to move on without hurling insults. It's pretty funny and insightful.[/QUOTE]I have said it before. These are the girls that report to seeking and then you lose your account. Never get too explicit with them online. Save it for the M&G. And that may not even stop them. Having propositioned thousands of girls on seeking and never been banned, I can only assume it is because of the company I keep.
Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279[/URL]
[QUOTE=CreamFire;5396437]Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279[/URL][/QUOTE]PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6[/URL]
[QUOTE=CreamFire;5396437]Real chick if anyone is interested. No bb. Don't expect anything in return but if anyone have any leads to someone as hot, feel free to share.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bb9744ab-0e0b-4b50-a651-cc093dbfd279[/URL][/QUOTE]My brutha. She's fiiiiine. Can you give some details? How the meet up go? What'd she want for play & how long? Age? All the deets. Feel free to PM me if you'd prefer to keep in moderately DL.
As for recommendations. I have a few to choose from, but. I'm one of those who likes to fish for the big game and that costs quite a bit more. So what's your range? Are you cool with girls in the 700-1 K range?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a656167-38bd-479d-b7f3-ce005c6805cf[/URL]
This girl straight out says she wants 4 K a month. LOL, hell no.
[QUOTE=AnthonyPat11;5396645]PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6[/URL][/QUOTE]She's ppm friendly.
[QUOTE=AnthonyPat11;5396645]PPM or did you have an arrangement?
This one is pretty hot, real, 6 GFE, 8 for a trip to Greece.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2d0ed35e-922e-4911-b0a7-ce24be2c87f6[/URL][/QUOTE]Most of the reports on here leave out a key detail. When mentioning numbers, are they the girl's initial ask, or a final negotiated figure?
They often differ by a factor of 2 or more, so it matters!
Thanks!
I was able to 95% close the deal, she is open to meeting for intimacy for sugar. I think she feels safer with me since we talked for a while before. I went to meet up with her briefly at her place on a MG and she's legit. Can't wait!
[QUOTE=NutritionFacts;5399629]I was able to 95% close the deal, she is open to meeting for intimacy for sugar. I think she feels safer with me since we talked for a while before. I went to meet up with her briefly at her place on a MG and she's legit. Can't wait![/QUOTE]What's GB? I used to use a site, PantyDeal, for similar contacts. It was very limited in that there was no geographic search. I also periodically scan Craigslist for suggestive posts, but not much there anymore in southern CA.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5400437]What's GB? I used to use a site, PantyDeal, for similar contacts. It was very limited in that there was no geographic search. I also periodically scan Craigslist for suggestive posts, but not much there anymore in southern CA.[/QUOTE]Sorry I meant facebook.
Last night I was scrolling thru SA and saw Kaci profile. Idk if anyone else remembers her but she was on SA a few years ago but tried to scam people. We had barely talked and she gave a sob story about how she drove to her cousin's but the cousin wasn't there and she didn't have money to get back. I forget how much she asked me for but I think I sent her $20 just to see since 20 isn't a big loss. To try and make me trust her she gave me her real fb page and name. Anyway, she didn't pay back the 20 and when I asked about it she blocked me. Another member mentioned how she was trying to scam money for concert tickets.
Anyway she left the state for a bit with her bf and was begging for money on IG. I hadn't seen her online until last night. I looked up her new IG and sent her a message that I see she's back to trying to scam money from people. She blocked me on IG and either blocked me on SA or deleted her profile.
SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.
[QUOTE=Happtrav;5402397]SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.[/QUOTE]There are men who approach this with a "trick" mentality, and have become accustomed to giving money at the beginning of an interaction, doing whatever the girl tells them to do, and as a result they are preyed upon by scammers and pros who recognize the type.
At no point should there be any money given beforehand. If you play cards right, you can find a beautiful young hottie who will please you far better than any hardened prostitute or Skid Row gutter rat.
There's no point in messaging a scammer on Instagram or elsewhere to confront them, they won't stop scamming because of a DM. If anything, you can warn other guys with a report here, and report them to the sugaring site and move on to a more worthwhile interaction.
[QUOTE=Happtrav;5402397]SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.[/QUOTE]I am just getting into the SB game because I want to be in full control and I wanted to be sure that sugar babies are fine to let you keep the money until after. I was under the impression that somehow johns were not in control, but obviously the SB scene is much different. Mostly because these girls are nonpros. And like most nonpros they want you to uber them to the meet and greet.
[QUOTE=Happtrav;5402397]SB.
Chat / Text / communicate for a few days (Max a month).
Meet in public place. I normally meet at a hotel restaurant / bar. If all is going well, go up to a hotel room for play time.
After a great play time, leave a gift / sugar on the night stand. She will take the sugar, and leave discreetly.
In a SB arrangement, you are always in full control.
Escort / Scam / Pros / Working girl.
They ask you to show up to an incall. Ask for money upfront (cash, venmo, whatever), before any play starts.
Another variation used by, the Real Evil Pros / Sneaky ones, is they will show up to your place / hotel. Ask for money first, and then run out with money.
Please understand any $ given before play: You have lost all control.
In Summary, If you need immediate relief, go to an escort / massage girl (Seniors, DM me for escort / review sites). STAY OUT of SB game.
Soon, I will post 3 simple emails / messages you can use to screen a Pros / Scammer on a SB site.[/QUOTE]This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.
I haven't really tried to get back on SA, after being banned last year, but I have tried both secret benefits and sugar daddy meet and have had various levels of success. On SDM I received so many messages from girls looking for online only and wanted to share some of their messages.
[QUOTE=TheHuntsman;5401023]Last night I was scrolling thru SA and saw Kaci profile. Idk if anyone else remembers her but she was on SA a few years ago but tried to scam people. We had barely talked and she gave a sob story about how she drove to her cousin's but the cousin wasn't there and she didn't have money to get back. I forget how much she asked me for but I think I sent her $20 just to see since 20 isn't a big loss. To try and make me trust her she gave me her real fb page and name. Anyway, she didn't pay back the 20 and when I asked about it she blocked me. Another member mentioned how she was trying to scam money for concert tickets.
Anyway she left the state for a bit with her bf and was begging for money on IG. I hadn't seen her online until last night. I looked up her new IG and sent her a message that I see she's back to trying to scam money from people. She blocked me on IG and either blocked me on SA or deleted her profile.[/QUOTE]I remember her. I actually picked her up from CSF dorms but nothing happened. Two months later she texted me asking for money like we were friends and shit. She was pretty cute but she got blocked.
Yeah she's a scammer. Don't waste your time.
Any intel on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aac4399b-917b-4812-9cd1-f6c706b1a9ed[/URL]
Addendum: I don't really like working with pros from SA, im looking more for the civi GND types. Im curious though in terms of pros/ pros from SA, what is the batting average on BB? With civi girls ive honestly been able to just go for it and they never say anything but with pros I feel like they will insist on a rubber. And I don't want to discuss it before hand with a pro because then either its just "no", which is fine, but if its "yes" then theyll just use that as leverage to ask for even more $. Im assuming though I should pretty much assume pros will want rubbers by 90% of the time
[QUOTE=TheHuntsman;5403182]This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.[/QUOTE]It is asome random, pimply face teenager from Kinosha Wisconsin.
Or Florida.
Nothing good comes out of Florida.
[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5403040]I am just getting into the SB game because I want to be in full control and I wanted to be sure that sugar babies are fine to let you keep the money until after. I was under the impression that somehow johns were not in control, but obviously the SB scene is much different. Mostly because these girls are nonpros. And like most nonpros they want you to uber them to the meet and greet.[/QUOTE]Men in this game are Sugar Daddies, someone whom young beautiful girls enjoy being with, who can provide feelings of comfort and benefaction as well as opening up new experiences. Good looks and charm will improve your success rate.
If you're approaching sugar dating by referring to yourself as a john, or thinking like a cheap trick, your success rate with beautiful fresh non pros will be marginal. To be sure, there are also UTR pros and outright prostitutes on sugar sites looking for johns and tricks, and these may put out, or just as likely rip you off. Check out the Richmond forum to learn every step of the game.
In my many years, the vast majority of girls have ubered themselves or driven to our first dates, particularly as they're looking out for their own safety in a first encounter. Never send money for an Uber / gas / oil change / etc, as those asking for such money are scammers.
[QUOTE=TheHuntsman;5403182]This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.[/QUOTE]That's a scammer. They've pervaded all sugar sites and dating apps. No one who sends a deposit will get a drop of pussy juice on their dick.
A lot of these wh0 res place their SC and Insta details on Tinder or other platforms to build clout and / or rip off, never to meet anyone.
[QUOTE=TylerDurd;5403412]Any intel on her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aac4399b-917b-4812-9cd1-f6c706b1a9ed[/URL]
Addendum: I don't really like working with pros from SA, im looking more for the civi GND types. Im curious though in terms of pros/ pros from SA, what is the batting average on BB? With civi girls ive honestly been able to just go for it and they never say anything but with pros I feel like they will insist on a rubber. And I don't want to discuss it before hand with a pro because then either its just "no", which is fine, but if its "yes" then theyll just use that as leverage to ask for even more $. Im assuming though I should pretty much assume pros will want rubbers by 90% of the time[/QUOTE]I've not interacted with this one, but she looks like a pro. Non pros on SA are just as open to bare as any other civilian, and don't demand a mark-up the way a pro would. I prefer civilian SBs, as they are far more reliable and eager to please.
I do discuss BB before meeting, first moving the conversation offsite, and after getting a feel of the chemistry. I won't waste time and money getting to meet someone only to be told "strictly condoms. " Only high mileage girls would even think to require this.
Avoid this. Has multiple profiles that had different location and time waster. No sign of scam but would tell you willing to meet up then ghost 30 minutes prior to meeting. Gave 2 chances. Got ready for nothing.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c382e5c3-f7d4-4ed0-8196-4eb36fd30581[/URL]
Haven't met this chick but based on her messages to me and her constantly updating her available date on her profile, seems like a pro if anyone wants to test her out. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0119e853-fcff-4ad2-a012-fbe560d38394[/URL].
Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.
[QUOTE=ShowMeHow23;5404069]Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.[/QUOTE]The point system on SB is simply awful. I've talked to a few girls but the way they lag in communication is awful. I had spoken to this one girl and she vanished for a few weeks. Randomly sends me a picture last week. I said I had pretty much given up on us getting together. She replied ok take care I mean WTF?
One of my favorite interactions on SDM was this one girl that contacted me but she was too far. So she said how about online. I said I'm not interested in online soon she asks if I'm occurred in phone sex or possibly sending her money so she can go eat.
[QUOTE=ShowMeHow23;5404069]Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.[/QUOTE]Haven't had much luck either the last few weeks. I had 2 m&g but nothing materialized. Today, I thought I found someone but luckily, I clarified my expectations. This btch thought she was getting full allowance just to have dinner. GTFO here. There was also another one who wanted platonic dinner but bring a male friend for safety. Blocked! I ain't feeding someone's bum bf or pimp. Met some utr pro but that was it.