Let's keep it simple.........
The key here is testing! The U.S. now leads the world in COVID-19 cases/deaths. We have tested less than 1 percent of the U.S. population of 328 million. The 2.67 million people tested so far show 560,000 cases of COVID-19 with 22,000 deaths. Do the math and see what would happen if we don’t have stringent social distancing measures in place.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4741141]Current US death rates from China Virus:
0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.
NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.
Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.
State of Georgia stats from yesterday:
0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.
0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.
0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.
I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.
Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.
These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.
For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.
Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
We are going overboard I think
If people would realize the total truth is probably somewhere between the people who are fear-mongering and want to sell out their freedom for a 'perception of safety' and those who say we should pretend the COVID-19 either does not exist or is not lethal to some people. I could just as easily inadvertently kill my mother by having caught the flu but not yet having any symptoms and taking it to her and 200 of her fellow assisted living neighbors. For her, the flu could be deadly also.
However, we have gone way overboard where some places are ticking people for walking on the sidewalk or riding their motorcycle because they are deemed 'non-essential. " A TV commentator he can board his dog due to travel but the kennel cannot trim the dog's nails because the Governor deemed it non-essential. Kentucky governor threatened anyone whose car was on any church property on Easter would have their entire household issued a mandatory quarantine order by the health department.
The pendulum has swung way too far for this virus when, as stated by A2, in the big scheme, it will not prove as deadly as the so-called experts (all sides of the political coin) are calling for.
We (the majority of people) have surrendered using their own common sense and become subjugated to the government when it was intended to be the other way around. One of the things I refused to do whenever I was in a leadership position in the Army and had the situation was to not punish the masses for the guilt or stupidity of the one or few. The guilty were punished, not everyone.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4742072]Zero talk. All data. Hard facts. All you did was talk though. US news and world reports? History channel?* We have no immunity? Where's your data? You privy to the results obtained from antibodies testing done on a massive scale? What percent of population has / had virus but didn't / don't know it or suffered from only mild symptoms? 30,40, 50%? We were all on top of one another as virus spread like wildfire. Your data for that? Second wave, Round 2,3,4 going to be worse? Where's your data, Dr. ? Spanish flu from 100 years ago? What effect did the massive global troop movements during WW I have on Spanish Flu second wave? Your data on that? 'Everyone' says social distancing is the only reason numbers are lower? Your data, hard facts on that? You have none. Zero. You spout unsubstantiated bullshit.
0. 00677093% of all Americans have died from China virus. Fact. Hard data. A2 wrote you could pack 100,000 China Virus+ (40) year olds and younger into a stadium and only two would die. Fact. Hard data.
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How to properly calculate percentages. Don't forget to multiply by 100
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;4741141]Current US death rates from China Virus:
0.00677093% of all Americans dead from China virus.
NY / NJ has over half of all US deaths. Heavy reliance on mass transit. Mega-metropolitan areas among other reasons. Their death rate from China virus: 0.04191071% of all NY / NJ citizens.
Back out NY / NJ numbers from all US deaths, US death rate from China virus at: 0.00333333% of all citizens.
State of Georgia stats from yesterday:
0.111% of Georgia citizens have confirmed case of China Virus.
0.0231% Have been hospitalized due to China Virus.
0.00400% have died from China Virus. **.
I've crunched those numbers further. Of the 433 deaths, 370 of those are in people 60 and over. Of that 370, (177) had listed comorbities. Diabetes, pre-diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, etc. Serious conditions where your health is at risk anyway. Not a cold, sinus congestion. To err on the side of caution I counted those listed with unknown comorbitities as w / o any.
Of the 63 deaths in Georgia from China virus in people 59 and younger, 40 are listed with comordities. Also counted the unknown comobitities as without though I feel many existed. The state of Georgia has had 23 healthy citizens under the age of 60 to die from China Virus. There are 10.62 million people living in Georgia.
These statistics posted come from private and public sources. Cross checked and cross referenced. Facts. Hard data.
For the sheeple out there who like to quote politicized 'experts' and their models of 2 million, 20 million China virus US dead and call for 12-18 months of quarantine until a vaccine, which may or may not come, please continue to be a sheeple. Branded, shoved into a corral with the rest of your herd and fed gruel over a fence by your benevolent leaders. But remember, many of these widely quoted 'experts' with their models are employed by others who seek taxpayer funds for research, tests and vaccine tests which may never come. Fear is a commodity they trade in to get millions, billions of taxpayer dollars.
Lock this country down for 12-18 months and more will die from other causes than China virus. The money printing needed to carry that off would likely result in Weimar Republic or a Zimbabwe type hyperinflation. You better pay $100 for that loaf of bread today cause tomorrow it's going to cost you $200. Better pay $500 for that 6 pack of Charmin, going to cost you $1,000 tomorrow.[/QUOTE]For example:
For the USA, 22,858 (deaths) divided by 564,398 (confirmed cases) = 0. 0404. Then multiply by 100 will give you 4. 04% death rate in the USA. . 0404% is vastly different from 4. 04%. A 4. 04% death rate is still pretty low, BUT who knows if you're going to be that person / victim that falls into that 4%. So, 0. 33% of Georgians have the virus. Of the 13,315 confirmed cases in Georgia, 3. 4% have died (464 deaths). Bottom line, DON'T CATCH IT! I have 3 friends that have had it. One was hospitalized and recovered, one was in bed at home and thought it was the flu, and one had mild symptoms.
The scary thing about this virus is that there is no vaccine to prevent you from catching it, and even if there WAS a vaccine, all vaccine are not 100% efficacious, even for the flu. Also, there are no proven medications available to cure the afflicted. It all comes down to how well YOUR body fights the virus. Without testing, asymptomatic individual will continue to spread the virus.
Additionally, all testing is not accurate. A good test requires accurate "sensitivity and specificity". sensitivity is like your radar detector going off, even though you don't see a cop around. It's the ability to pick up a signal or sign (disease). Specificity is actually seeing that police car hidden in the woods, or correctly saying that you DO have the disease. Low sensitivity on a medical test would miss the disease and low specificity wouldn't be able to tell what disease you had (a cold? Regular flu? Coronavirus?