MotorCity Mayhem

After all the shit I've done over the years, if I die because I touched my face, I'll be pissed!

[QUOTE=SingDong99;5072093]The name and number BS at the club is just that.

I had covid about 13 days ago, got my positive test and not one person EVER contacted me about contact tracing. I took the initiative to let people know who I'd been in contact with, but that was it.

As an aside, and I know this isn't true for everyone, but it was just a cold for me. The idea that I've let this affect my life for 9 months now makes me mad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ALotNohsin;5068773]FYI multiple sources reported dancers at LS are positive still working there. They found out about one girl and shut the club for 4 days to clean. But there are others still hiding it and working.[/QUOTE]Can you imagine what it's like at Hanks? But, covid would be the least of my worries there.

[QUOTE=Concupiscent69;5071962]Nothing confusing about it. I never stated they HAVE covid, I stated they display symptoms symptoms but don't disclose. To elaborate, anyone with a sore throat or cough could be construed as covid when it's just a sore throat or cough. If they are have mucus / phlegm buildup, it could be allergies. They aren't planning to see a doctor or tell others because people freak out.

The overall case and death count is exaggerated.[/QUOTE]I can tell that you're so close to understanding this, but your mind has been befuddled by the propaganda. The only reason they don't "HAVE" covid, is because they're not getting tested for COVID b / c they want to keep working. I also, personally, know at least 4 people who had COVID and never got tested b / c it was obvious. The numbers are drastically under-reported, and same for the death tolls. Every piece of logic that you've laid out has attested to that fact, but somehow at the end, to you, it adds up to over-reported numbers.

All you have to do is go and look at our year-over-year death tolls, that are tracked for many, many years, and simply realize that society has slowed down, and people don't go out as much, and things are closed, all of which should add up to less deaths. But, no, it's a huge number more deaths, with dramatic rises in deaths damn near across the board. You see, COVID doesn't usually kill you like a bullet kills you; It often just makes whatever is ailing you already significantly more lethal.

Take the time to understand the issue, the numbers don't lie.

[URL]https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/Provisional/MontlyDxCounts.asp[/URL]

[QUOTE=SlightlyHere;5073261]I can tell that you're so close to understanding this, but your mind has been befuddled by the propaganda. The only reason they don't "HAVE" covid, is because they're not getting tested for COVID b / c they want to keep working. I also, personally, know at least 4 people who had COVID and never got tested b / c it was obvious. The numbers are drastically under-reported, and same for the death tolls. Every piece of logic that you've laid out has attested to that fact, but somehow at the end, to you, it adds up to over-reported numbers.

All you have to do is go and look at our year-over-year death tolls, that are tracked for many, many years, and simply realize that society has slowed down, and people don't go out as much, and things are closed, all of which should add up to less deaths. But, no, it's a huge number more deaths, with dramatic rises in deaths damn near across the board. You see, COVID doesn't usually kill you like a bullet kills you; It often just makes whatever is ailing you already significantly more lethal.

Take the time to understand the issue, the numbers don't lie.

[URL]https://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/Provisional/MontlyDxCounts.asp[/URL][/QUOTE]The numbers are input by humans who require specifying covid deaths even if the patient / victim actually died from heart disease. Covid cases receive a greater monetary funding for medical facilities when reported. I know several people who have been tested with results negative then positive then negative again. I know two people with elderly relatives who passed away due to another ailment / disease / disorder but also had covid "symptoms". The death certificate stated covid death. I know a couple who entered a clinic to be tested, signed their name to the sheet at desk, asked how long it will be and was told about 4 hours. They said they will return another time. Within a week, they received a notice stating they were test positive for covid when never tested.

You want to believe the numbers, that's your choice. I'm not a conspiracy theorists, but I trust the government as far as I can throw my car. Covid is risky for those with a suppressed immune system and the elderly. The same stems with the flu and any other virus. Having a cough, sore throat, even a fever is not a guaranteed covid diagnosis. Doctors will tell patients with symptoms to simply stay home for 14 days and play it safe unless they become severe. The flu can last up to 2 weeks as well as with other ailments. To assume it's automatically covid and keeping the numbers lower is foolish.

[QUOTE=ALotNohsin;5068773]FYI multiple sources reported dancers at LS are positive still working there. They found out about one girl and shut the club for 4 days to clean. But there are others still hiding it and working[/QUOTE]I checked with my current favorite provider, and she said she expects to see no decrease in business due to the lockdown because the SC's will be shut. Meaning the SC customers will be coming her way.

[QUOTE=SingDong99;5072093]The name and number BS at the club is just that.

I had covid about 13 days ago, got my positive test and not one person EVER contacted me about contact tracing. I took the initiative to let people know who I'd been in contact with, but that was it.

As an aside, and I know this isn't true for everyone, but it was just a cold for me. The idea that I've let this affect my life for 9 months now makes me mad.[/QUOTE]Well, 99.5% of folks recover just fine from Covid. Anecdotally, the SO's sister and brother in law just recovered from Covid (tested positive). Their experience was lethargy and headaches for two weeks. No other symptoms. SO's Aunt tested positive also. Her symptom is a cough. No other symptoms. Aunt's husband hasn't caught Covid despite being exposed to her the entire time. They are all approximately 60 years old and have no underlying chronic issues like diabetes. I haven't been near them for months, so no worries for me, but I would be mad, too, if the Covid experience is just a bad cold and nothing more.

[QUOTE=DannyOceanMi;5078233]Well, 99.5% of folks recover just fine from Covid. Anecdotally, the SO's sister and brother in law just recovered from Covid (tested positive). Their experience was lethargy and headaches for two weeks. No other symptoms. SO's Aunt tested positive also. Her symptom is a cough. No other symptoms. Aunt's husband hasn't caught Covid despite being exposed to her the entire time. They are all approximately 60 years old and have no underlying chronic issues like diabetes. I haven't been near them for months, so no worries for me, but I would be mad, too, if the Covid experience is just a bad cold and nothing more.[/QUOTE]The bad part of the virus isn't just death. One can have lingering effects such as difficulty breathing for the rest of one's lifetime.

[QUOTE=Concupiscent69;5073835]The numbers are input by humans who require specifying covid deaths even if the patient / victim actually died from heart disease. Covid cases receive a greater monetary funding for medical facilities when reported. I know several people who have been tested with results negative then positive then negative again. I know two people with elderly relatives who passed away due to another ailment / disease / disorder but also had covid "symptoms". The death certificate stated covid death. I know a couple who entered a clinic to be tested, signed their name to the sheet at desk, asked how long it will be and was told about 4 hours. They said they will return another time. Within a week, they received a notice stating they were test positive for covid when never tested.

You want to believe the numbers, that's your choice. I'm not a conspiracy theorists, but I trust the government as far as I can throw my car. Covid is risky for those with a suppressed immune system and the elderly. The same stems with the flu and any other virus. Having a cough, sore throat, even a fever is not a guaranteed covid diagnosis. Doctors will tell patients with symptoms to simply stay home for 14 days and play it safe unless they become severe. The flu can last up to 2 weeks as well as with other ailments. To assume it's automatically covid and keeping the numbers lower is foolish.[/QUOTE]Sir, you failed to address the increase in deaths across the board. They don't add up to your conspiracy theory of plugging in COVID deaths for extra cash. As I said, and it seems like you agree, COVID is often not the PRIMARY cause of death, but a contributory one. If you are slowly bleeding out due to a cut of your carotid artery, and someone comes up and shoots you in the head, what's your cause of death?

I just had covid and gave it to my entire family. It's WAY overblown for the vast majority of people. I had every single symptom and really only had 24 hours where I felt like crap. I've been sicker with flu, mono, etc.

As I was getting over it I found myself getting very angry that this thing has controlled my life for almost 9 months. It's no big deal for most people. The media has done a real number on us, creating a sense of panic and fear over something that does not deserve it for most people.

And yes there are cases of healthy people getting really sick and dying, but there are cases of healthy people dropping dead from heart attacks and cancer in their 30's, too. We don't change our whole lives based on that low probability, though.

[QUOTE=DannyOceanMi;5078233]Well, 99.5% of folks recover just fine from Covid. Anecdotally, the SO's sister and brother in law just recovered from Covid (tested positive). Their experience was lethargy and headaches for two weeks. No other symptoms. SO's Aunt tested positive also. Her symptom is a cough. No other symptoms. Aunt's husband hasn't caught Covid despite being exposed to her the entire time. They are all approximately 60 years old and have no underlying chronic issues like diabetes. I haven't been near them for months, so no worries for me, but I would be mad, too, if the Covid experience is just a bad cold and nothing more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SingDong99;5079419]I just had covid and gave it to my entire family. It's WAY overblown for the vast majority of people. I had every single symptom and really only had 24 hours where I felt like crap. I've been sicker with flu, mono, etc.

As I was getting over it I found myself getting very angry that this thing has controlled my life for almost 9 months. It's no big deal for most people. The media has done a real number on us, creating a sense of panic and fear over something that does not deserve it for most people.

And yes there are cases of healthy people getting really sick and dying, but there are cases of healthy people dropping dead from heart attacks and cancer in their 30's, too. We don't change our whole lives based on that low probability, though.[/QUOTE]It's not overblown. I've had family members die from it and one in particular was in his 40's and very active - as in working a very physical job and frequently in the gym when not at work. I've known others who've had it and recovered. I have a cousin who has it right now but she's a young teen and not much bothered by it but her parents and grandparents are in quarantine. You and your family were simply lucky. Covid is as real as it gets.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5079940]It's not overblown. I've had family members die from it and one in particular was in his 40's and very active - as in working a very physical job and frequently in the gym when not at work. I've known others who've had it and recovered. I have a cousin who has it right now but she's a young teen and not much bothered by it but her parents and grandparents are in quarantine. You and your family were simply lucky. Covid is as real as it gets.[/QUOTE]There seems to be mild cases of this Chinese virus! And, then, there are severe case, too!

[QUOTE=MwJrp;5079945]There seems to be mild cases of this Chinese virus! And, then, there are severe case, too![/QUOTE]Wherever it came from, it doesn't matter as much as the fact that it's real and it's here.

Yes, it's true that the vast majority of the people recover but others have lingering conditions afterward and others yet, die. Even if the number of people that get it and die is 1 in 20 or slightly less (4-5% it's easy to dismiss, until it's someone you care for or love. Think of 20 people that you care for and watch one randomly die slowly. Is that ok? Is that enough to take it seriously?

[QUOTE=SingDong99;5079419]I just had covid and gave it to my entire family. It's WAY overblown for the vast majority of people. I had every single symptom and really only had 24 hours where I felt like crap. I've been sicker with flu, mono, etc.

As I was getting over it I found myself getting very angry that this thing has controlled my life for almost 9 months. It's no big deal for most people. The media has done a real number on us, creating a sense of panic and fear over something that does not deserve it for most people.

And yes there are cases of healthy people getting really sick and dying, but there are cases of healthy people dropping dead from heart attacks and cancer in their 30's, too. We don't change our whole lives based on that low probability, though.[/QUOTE]Except heart attacks and cancer aren't contagious.

We wonder when we'll get to enjoy the normal strip club experience again LOL.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5079956]Wherever it came from, it doesn't matter as much as the fact that it's real and it's here.

Yes, it's true that the vast majority of the people recover but others have lingering conditions afterward and others yet, die. Even if the number of people that get it and die is 1 in 20 or slightly less (4-5% it's easy to dismiss, until it's someone you care for or love. Think of 20 people that you care for and watch one randomly die slowly. Is that ok? Is that enough to take it seriously?[/QUOTE]Well said!!

[QUOTE=AirTouchOne;5080398]Well said!![/QUOTE]The actual fatality rate is between 0. 2 and 0. 3 percent according to Dr Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford. The fatale rate for school age children is actually higher for the common flu. The numbers stated have been verified by more than one large scale study. Yes. You might die from Covid- you might die from a lot of things and you will die from something. My advice is quit watching CNN.