[QUOTE=BlueDrifter;6335512]Good to know, thought I was getting ignored.[/QUOTE]Well, you never know.
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[QUOTE=BlueDrifter;6335512]Good to know, thought I was getting ignored.[/QUOTE]Well, you never know.
[QUOTE=MuchTwoMuch;6335502]Noa asked me to let everyone know that she is just tied up with life stuff. She is trying to catch up with responding. She tends to take the week off when that time comes LOL.[/QUOTE]Makes sense she actually didn't respond.
The providers in Raleigh are horrible. I reached out to a few and it's been a bad experience all around.
[QUOTE=ColonNoir;6335779]The providers in Raleigh are horrible. I reached out to a few and it's been a bad experience all around.[/QUOTE]What's your price range? What's your looks expectations? We've sadly become an area where if you play at the higher price points (400+) then you'll have options but many IMO won't be worth it. I say this based on rules, attitude and frankly the opportunity cost. When I consider having to pay $500/ hr for some trim I'm forced to ask myself how can I better spend the money and there are tons of ways. It also limits the ability to see more providers in a month and personally I'd rather go to the DR every 3 months (spending less) than to only see 1-2 providers a month.
If you're looking for the low end 60-180 then you'll need to weed through lots of flakes and scam ads and then hope you don't get ghosted. There seems to be some senior members who have regulars in the lower price range but I don't think most have ads so there's always buyer beware. I generally get a response but then the big head starts to think and I realize I don't want to pay 180 for a hh with a chick who is in a shitty motel and lately I've had less look getting some to drop their prices.
The other option is the Asian ads. They won't get you a good looker like the ads but you'll get a real woman and generally not get ghosted.
Largely I'm to the point where it's easier to just get a HJ from massage places. If you're willing to drive then there's Fayetteville. I find the providers at the low end there are at least real but you still have the drug issues.
FWIW there is a list of reputable providers who are "reasonably priced". Some that come to mind are Vickie (warning she offers BBFS to most customers), Jessica Foxx, Savannah Staxx, Kelli Dior (if she's still around because she had gotten pricey), Marie 69, the infamous Noa. None that I mentioned have outrageous prices and for the most part they all have positive reviews.
Ultimately I say good luck to you my friend.
[QUOTE=ColonNoir;6335779]The providers in Raleigh are horrible. I reached out to a few and it's been a bad experience all around.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong.
[QUOTE=AlexThag;6335907]You're not wrong.[/QUOTE]That's why I switched to the Asians. If you don't like what you see, turn around and walk away. They're are usually 4-5 more in the area.
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;6335905]What's your price range? What's your looks expectations? We've sadly become an area where if you play at the higher price points (400+) then you'll have options but many IMO won't be worth it. I say this based on rules, attitude and frankly the opportunity cost. When I consider having to pay $500/ hr for some trim I'm forced to ask myself how can I better spend the money and there are tons of ways. It also limits the ability to see more providers in a month and personally I'd rather go to the DR every 3 months (spending less) than to only see 1-2 providers a month.
If you're looking for the low end 60-180 then you'll need to weed through lots of flakes and scam ads and then hope you don't get ghosted. There seems to be some senior members who have regulars in the lower price range but I don't think most have ads so there's always buyer beware. I generally get a response but then the big head starts to think and I realize I don't want to pay 180 for a hh with a chick who is in a shitty motel and lately I've had less look getting some to drop their prices.
The other option is the Asian ads. They won't get you a good looker like the ads but you'll get a real woman and generally not get ghosted.
Largely I'm to the point where it's easier to just get a HJ from massage places. If you're willing to drive then there's Fayetteville. I find the providers at the low end there are at least real but you still have the drug issues.
FWIW there is a list of reputable providers who are "reasonably priced". Some that come to mind are Vickie (warning she offers BBFS to most customers), Jessica Foxx, Savannah Staxx, Kelli Dior (if she's still around because she had gotten pricey), Marie 69, the infamous Noa. None that I mentioned have outrageous prices and for the most part they all have positive reviews.
Ultimately I say good luck to you my friend.[/QUOTE]This puts a very interesting perspective on the hobby. Even though I'm a "senior member", I'm still quite new to all of this. My first provider experience was around this time last year, and I've averaged about 1 visit a month since then. Based on the recommendation of a senior member via a PM conversation, I went with an attractive provider from Tryst that was in the "expensive" price range. She was on tour, had a website and reviews on PD. I felt confident I was going to arrive at a safe location and the that person I would meet would match my expectations. And that's how it worked. Since then, I like to see at least two of the following for my screening purposes:
[LIST]
- Website
- Active Twitter
- Ad on Tryst or Eros
- Listing on P411
- Reviews on TER or PD
- Direct recommendation from another forum member[/LIST]
With one exception, all of the providers that I have seen have met at least 2 of the items from this list with matching pictures and contact information in the multiple sources. The exception was one of the providers listed in the referenced post. Unfortunately, this typically puts me into the greater than $400 hour per hour price range for touring providers.
I very much like the ability to screen providers so that I feel comfortable with my personal safety and the situation I am going into. I am willing to pay more and partake less to be confident of what to expect with in terms of both physical appearance and performance. All of my meetings have been in safe places and the person was who I expected her to be. Most were good experiences. In one case the provider was quite a bit heavier than expected, but I still had a good time. In another case, the provider was every bit as hot as expected, but I was very disappointed with how things went.
It blows my mind and makes my skin crawl to read about the risks some members are willing to take for a cheap QV with a totally unknown provider in a very sketchy location. Call me snobby or a stupid spender or whatever, but I place a high value on my health, safety and well being. I am very much in favor of letting the big head make informed decisions.
[QUOTE=IWonder;6336215]This puts a very interesting perspective on the hobby. Even though I'm a "senior member", I'm still quite new to all of this. My first provider experience was around this time last year, and I've averaged about 1 visit a month since then. Based on the recommendation of a senior member via a PM conversation, I went with an attractive provider from Tryst that was in the "expensive" price range. She was on tour, had a website and reviews on PD. I felt confident I was going to arrive at a safe location and the that person I would meet would match my expectations. And that's how it worked. Since then, I like to see at least two of the following for my screening purposes:.[/QUOTE]I started out with low end providers a couple years ago, primarily in stg. I overwhelmingly had terrible experiences. There was a few gems here and there but most were just garbage. You run the risk of either being robbed, catfished, catching some sort of disease, or just have a terrible time and you walk out ashamed and poorer. The fact that the multi level screening requirements, on both the provider and the consumer side are needed to even attempt to enjoy this hobby is disgusting. I've always prioritized my health and safety. And the fact that a lot of people in this hobby, on both sides, have those items as their last priority, or not even a priority at all is insane to me, and is why this hobby has gotten to the price point its at now. The number of members that are insulted if BBFS is not in the table is mind blowing. And the amount of providers that offer it is no better. I am at a point where I prefer the 300-500 range. In fact I really don't even inquire if your under that, with a fee exceptions. Legit, safe, and clean providers have expenses to cover in this hobby. The have to filter out the psychos, just like we do, as well as provide a safe decent location, maintain a safe and clean environment, as well as the typical advertising cost associated with the hobby. Most providers in that range enjoy what they do, provide a great service, and put my mind at ease as to what I am walking into. Most providers don't offer BBFS, again with some exception, and are more than happy to do CBJ to be extra safe. I've even had a few send me recent test results. Every once in a while youll have a provider that doesn't look exactly like the photos, or you just don't jive with them but overall they provide a good experience. The peace of mind alone is worth the price, even if that means I cut back my frequency of the hobby. If the disgusting portion of the hobby didn't exist, we would be paying lower prices for the same service. That's just how the game works.
[QUOTE=IWonder;6336215]This puts a very interesting perspective on the hobby. Even though I'm a "senior member", I'm still quite new to all of this. My first provider experience was around this time last year, and I've averaged about 1 visit a month since then. Based on the recommendation of a senior member via a PM conversation, I went with an attractive provider from Tryst that was in the "expensive" price range. She was on tour, had a website and reviews on PD. I felt confident I was going to arrive at a safe location and the that person I would meet would match my expectations. And that's how it worked. Since then, I like to see at least two of the following for my screening purposes:.[/QUOTE]Wow this was very satisfying to read. Some of the things I read on here amaze me. I have been careless in the past and more times than not you get what you pay for, this hobby is no exception. To each their own I suppose but I'm totally with you. Going to the hood to get a BBBJ by a junkie just doesn't make sense to me. Be safe out there guys!!
[QUOTE=Beastley69;6336287]Preach Brother[/QUOTE]I don't know if you are poking fun at me or agreeing with me.
I'm definitely not trying to preach. I am just trying to give a good description of how I pick providers. I know there are at least a few people on the forums that agree and operate in a similar fashion. I also know there are probably more than a few people who think I am spending way to much and possibly enabling higher prices. People are free to choose their level of comfort and spending.
[QUOTE=IWonder;6336389]I don't know if you are poking fun at me or agreeing with me.
I'm definitely not trying to preach. I am just trying to give a good description of how I pick providers. I know there are at least a few people on the forums that agree and operate in a similar fashion. I also know there are probably more than a few people who think I am spending way to much and possibly enabling higher prices. People are free to choose their level of comfort and spending.[/QUOTE]Based on your research who would recommend be your top 5 in the area according to your analysis.
[QUOTE=CarolinaSlick;6336330]Wow this was very satisfying to read. Some of the things I read on here amaze me. I have been careless in the past and more times than not you get what you pay for, this hobby is no exception. To each their own I suppose but I'm totally with you. Going to the hood to get a BBBJ by a junkie just doesn't make sense to me. Be safe out there guys!![/QUOTE]It's America, people carry guns. Those girls are the same, they carry for self defense or robbing you if they want to. They have "husbands", something to consider, the last thing I would want is to run into a male while I'm dreaming a dream. I don't carry because I'd rather be robbed a few bucks. As bad as that, you have Uncle all around who has nothing else to do apparently than preventing the good ones to work for a living. Think about it, you get caught, you potentially lose everything: wife, job, reputation, money in jail bond and lawyers fees, etc.
Don't forget: risk of STD's or other disease, unlikely if you are cautious, but can still happen. Finally, the catfishes, you can always walk or stay and regret your life choices if you stay.
Best bet: UTR with whom you are regular with. That's rare.
Guys, be safe.
[QUOTE=StBrolinSf;6336529]It's America, people carry guns. Those girls are the same, they carry for self defense or robbing you if they want to. They have "husbands", something to consider, the last thing I would want is to run into a male while I'm dreaming a dream. I don't carry because I'd rather be robbed a few bucks. As bad as that, you have Uncle all around who has nothing else to do apparently than preventing the good ones to work for a living. Think about it, you get caught, you potentially lose everything: wife, job, reputation, money in jail bond and lawyers fees, etc.
Don't forget: risk of STD's or other disease, unlikely if you are cautious, but can still happen. Finally, the catfishes, you can always walk or stay and regret your life choices if you stay.
Best bet: UTR with whom you are regular with. That's rare.
Guys, be safe.[/QUOTE]I carry everywhere I go. That includes "dates". The girls I see know I carry and have no problem it being wrapped up in my cloths while to do is being done. As far as going Bare. I don't, won't even with providers I have seen for years and tell me I am the only one. Because you are never the only one.
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;6335905]What's your price range? What's your looks expectations? We've sadly become an area where if you play at the higher price points (400+) then you'll have options but many IMO won't be worth it. I say this based on rules, attitude and frankly the opportunity cost. When I consider having to pay $500/ hr for some trim I'm forced to ask myself how can I better spend the money and there are tons of ways. It also limits the ability to see more providers in a month and personally I'd rather go to the DR every 3 months (spending less) than to only see 1-2 providers a month.
If you're looking for the low end 60-180 then you'll need to weed through lots of flakes and scam ads and then hope you don't get ghosted. There seems to be some senior members who have regulars in the lower price range but I don't think most have ads so there's always buyer beware. I generally get a response but then the big head starts to think and I realize I don't want to pay 180 for a hh with a chick who is in a shitty motel and lately I've had less look getting some to drop their prices.
The other option is the Asian ads. They won't get you a good looker like the ads but you'll get a real woman and generally not get ghosted.
Largely I'm to the point where it's easier to just get a HJ from massage places. If you're willing to drive then there's Fayetteville. I find the providers at the low end there are at least real but you still have the drug issues.
FWIW there is a list of reputable providers who are "reasonably priced". Some that come to mind are Vickie (warning she offers BBFS to most customers), Jessica Foxx, Savannah Staxx, Kelli Dior (if she's still around because she had gotten pricey), Marie 69, the infamous Noa. None that I mentioned have outrageous prices and for the most part they all have positive reviews.
Ultimately I say good luck to you my friend.[/QUOTE]I can tell you I'm not going to give these chic's my car payment to see them. I would say I'm on the lower end. I typically do not stay at location past 10 minutes. I like be in and out. However I did have some providers contact me but I wouldn't hear anything back after the initiating of the conversation. The providers in Raleigh need to be taught a lesson without us they are homeless and hungry. Once they understand that the prices will go down.
[QUOTE=JonnyBigRod;6336427]Based on your research who would recommend be your top 5 in the area according to your analysis.[/QUOTE]Based on how I've done things, I've only seen touring providers with one exception. So, I don't have a "top 5 in the area. " In the post that started this thread, "Joe Looking" had 4 or 5 names of reasonably priced local people. I've only seen one out of his list, but I recognize all of the names and may try to contact one or two of the others.