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She says she is at Bremerton. Said 400 for 2 hrs meet. There is something about her that has me hesitant.

[QUOTE=BugManLet;5861054]Yes, I had a meet and greet date with her back in fall 2020. I met her off Seeking. She is still active there as well as Secret Benefits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bbc181ba-7d3e-463f-a302-d038533e24e9[/URL]

We had a meal together, hung out about an hour and she seemed like a fun, friendly and cute girl. After the date we texted and agreed on a $300 PPM. But when it came time to set up a follow up date she ghosted. I was bummed as she had seemed promising. You in Kitsap? You should give her a shot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Omgwtflolsu;5861090]Long time lurker here and finally tried out Seeking. Here are my initial reports:

This one quoted me 600 PPM (she said only if we vibe, so I'm guessing the 600 is only if I actually end up at her place). She noted she can host and has a flexible schedule. If I ever take the plunge (I actually may), I'll note what she offers:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/367467af-d88f-4462-8fb7-4005c1c55dae[/URL]

I had endless chatting with this one and she ended up quoting me 300 PPM, but was not clear on what that included. We did an initial meet and greet and I didn't give her anything other than paying for her drinks. She listed off a ton of health and mental issues and ended the meet greet after 2 hours. Afterwards, sent me an e-mail asking if I wanted to see her again and gave me her Cashapp. I told her I'd only see her again in a non-platonic capacity and never heard from her again:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccd49465-899c-4f57-9627-f7d92d1aa50b[/URL]

This one basically straight up just said "let me show you a good time" and we moved to e-mail right away. She was pretty all over the place. Started by saying everything is covered and she doesn't do anal, then out of nowhere states "I believe you said $350" when we had no discussion of price. On top of that, she noted she can't host when my profile specifically states I require it. I simply noted if you can't host it's a deal breaker and we stopped talking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing info.

Why do you insist on them hosting? That will make your search harder. Out of 15 SB's I've hooked up with only 2 were into hosting and I'd say it's not very typical. When I started I was also looking for them to host and it kept me from doing very much unless I was traveling on business and work paid the hotel. I didn't want a paper trail of me booking hotels. For a time I booked AirBNB with a fake account (They didn't require I'd verification until late 2020) and gift cards purchased with cash! I finally broke down and got a new bank account and card the wife doesn't know about for these activities. Everyone decides their own risk profile but the more safety and anonymity you want the tougher it gets to play.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;5861557]She says she is at Bremerton. Said 400 for 2 hrs meet. There is something about her that has me hesitant.[/QUOTE]I met her in the Bremerton area. She's real, but it was 18 months ago I saw her so don't know what has transpired. Let us know how it turns out if you go through with it.

Yeah, she sounds like she's living in a bubble of her own fantasy word, while you seem to be grounded in reality. She's right, you're not close. LOL.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5860030]I told her we did 300 per date and saw each other 2-3 times a month. Her reply was, we are not close.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8c3102f8-a9c4-42f4-abd9-a214075b017d[/URL][/QUOTE]

Too many of these girls are listening to "The Misadventures of A Sugar Baby" podcast by Beatrix Love. She is a professional escort and sex work who fell into "sugaring", doling gold-digger advice while talking sh*t about her clients.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5860404]Blocked!

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/034a98a6-3a19-4e90-a33f-71816b300477[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BugManLet;5861564]Thanks for sharing info.

Why do you insist on them hosting? That will make your search harder. Out of 15 SB's I've hooked up with only 2 were into hosting and I'd say it's not very typical. When I started I was also looking for them to host and it kept me from doing very much unless I was traveling on business and work paid the hotel. I didn't want a paper trail of me booking hotels. For a time I booked AirBNB with a fake account (They didn't require I'd verification until late 2020) and gift cards purchased with cash! I finally broke down and got a new bank account and card the wife doesn't know about for these activities. Everyone decides their own risk profile but the more safety and anonymity you want the tougher it gets to play.[/QUOTE]I don't want them knowing where I live in case they ever decide to show up randomly when my partner is home. I really don't have the patience to create fake accounts and purchase gift cards and all that jazz haha, this isn't important enough for me. I figure I'm in my mid 30's and relatively good looking, so I'm hoping that alone will keep this from being too much work. I'm just dipping my toe in the water for now. If it doesn't pan out, I'll head back to just hiring escorts. I appreciate the feedback though, I'm starting to sense you're right about how tough it is to play.

I know several guys from here have met her. I am wondering how much does Ava wants for ppm? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d3d5854d-b83c-4a17-9bb2-de8d0ffb9c8c[/URL].

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4241037c-f815-435b-8ee3-02c7b30022b6[/URL]

$1200 together, $750 one, condoms required, no giving oral or receiving anal.

This one is $500 PPM 2 hrs. Will text pics, not bad looking she is just not my jam.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e3b6f2aa-0b62-458e-83ae-846a834230fd[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6d6e20c8-cd8c-4b32-a080-99224d410fe1[/URL]

$700 ppm.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5865459][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6d6e20c8-cd8c-4b32-a080-99224d410fe1[/URL]

$700 ppm.[/QUOTE]For a 51 year old? I believe that the market is a wide and varied place, but I truly don't believe it extends that far.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5865459][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6d6e20c8-cd8c-4b32-a080-99224d410fe1[/URL]

$700 ppm.[/QUOTE]I love MILFS. But 50 is a little older. For 700 she better be incredible looking and great in bed.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5866055]I love MILFS. But 50 is a little older. For 700 she better be incredible looking and great in bed.[/QUOTE]I will never know how she is in bed, but the photos she shared are definitely below average. Kinda. Way below.

[QUOTE=ShibaSig12;5852281]Wants 700 ppm, GPS but very pretty and toned body though.[/QUOTE]Was it bareback?

[QUOTE=Paradigum;5841612]During my trip. One of the agency girls I called ended up being Russian. She spent a good 20-30 minutes at the start of the hour talking about how corrupt Biden and family was. But I was able to power through it. I am truly and personally ashamed to report. I cum dumped a Trump Supporting Russian.[/QUOTE]And I am sure she is ashamed of taking a load from a Biden Supporter! Ewwww.

So I went ahead and bought a month on SA. So far not a bad turnout on response.

With that said I will be posting each contact and what their expecting. If you have someone that you would like to know more about just send me a PM and I'll look her up.

Let the phuckery begin.

Ok the first one was this gal from Venezuela she has blocked me already. She just does cam shows for $60 for 20 minutes.

Number 2: Dream Big Babe: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34aa764d-921c-48cc-95a2-29bdb4a3dfb9[/URL] She wants $400.00 for rent.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5868076]So I went ahead and bought a month on SA. So far not a bad turnout on response.

With that said I will be posting each contact and what their expecting. If you have someone that you would like to know more about just send me a PM and I'll look her up.

Let the phuckery begin.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah! Looking forward to reading your findings.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;5868019]And I am sure she is ashamed of taking a load from a Biden Supporter! Ewwww.[/QUOTE]LOL! I wouldn't go that far. She did exactly what she should to support capitalism (minus the religious or moral overtones of course. Good thing that isn't a problem in this country? Hah). .

And I am conservative / right by nature! Pretty sad that I believe capitalism and democracy is better served by someone on the left right now. Core principles of rule of law (As in being examples and following it. Trump called himself the 'Most honest human god ever created'. Seriously?! After being caught in lie after lie after scandal after scandal?) and the constitution better defended by someone on the left. Even as old and inept as Biden is. WTF happened to the Republican party. ;.

A bunch of coke snorting orgy having conspiracy theorists? These are the things we use to accuse the left / hippies of. Not ourselves. Perhaps showing my age but my god has the tide turned.

Note: NOT trying to start a political conversation. Mods: Please delete if desired. Sorry!

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5826052]This account started as fromrussiawithlove and is now fromukrainewithlove.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/be55f141-e2dd-43eb-9a03-b8ff0c50342c[/URL]

BTW, anything sexual is 900+.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5826344]She is probably Russian. She is trying to be politically correct and hide who she is. For 900+ she can continue to dream on.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Paradigum;5841612]During my trip. One of the agency girls I called ended up being Russian. She spent a good 20-30 minutes at the start of the hour talking about how corrupt Biden and family was. But I was able to power through it. I am truly and personally ashamed to report. I cum dumped a Trump Supporting Russian.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BuckNaked123;5868019]And I am sure she is ashamed of taking a load from a Biden Supporter! Ewwww.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Paradigum;5868548]LOL! I wouldn't go that far. She did exactly what she should to support capitalism (minus the religious or moral overtones of course. Good thing that isn't a problem in this country? Hah). .

And I am conservative / right by nature! Pretty sad that I believe capitalism and democracy is better served by someone on the left right now. Core principles of rule of law (As in being examples and following it. Trump called himself the 'Most honest human god ever created'. Seriously?! After being caught in lie after lie after scandal after scandal?) and the constitution better defended by someone on the left. Even as old and inept as Biden is. WTF happened to the Republican party. ;.

A bunch of coke snorting orgy having conspiracy theorists? These are the things we use to accuse the left / hippies of. Not ourselves. Perhaps showing my age but my god has the tide turned.

Note: NOT trying to start a political conversation. Mods: Please delete if desired. Sorry![/QUOTE]Both parties today Dems and Reps have a lot to be ashamed about. I do not want to continue a political discussion either. But - I must say I agree with Paradigum, the republican party has lost it's soul trying to follow Trump after all his scandals and Russian ties. I did fuck a Trump loving Australian on SA as well about a year ago. Just when the insurrection happened in Jan. We started to get into a argument, I quickly composed myself and remembered why I had invited her over and booked an expensive hotel room. It was not to discuss politics. I shut up and hate fucked her HARD. She fucking loved it. Kept telling me to slap her and fuck her hard in the ass etc etc. I remember cumming really really hard in her ass while pulling her hair hard. I also pissed on her later in the shower. It was awesome, but I never returned any of her texts after that meeting, not even when she lowered her PPM to meet again. Fuck her. She should have known better than to get into a political discussion on the first date with someone.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5868251]Ok the first one was this gal from Venezuela she has blocked me already. She just does cam shows for $60 for 20 minutes.

Number 2: Dream Big Babe: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34aa764d-921c-48cc-95a2-29bdb4a3dfb9[/URL] She wants $400.00 for rent.[/QUOTE]Number 2 is Emma, fun if you can get her in the sack, but good luck getting her into the sack LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bc3a4b5b-448b-4237-a885-c336bfe461ee[/URL]

Wants 200 for meet and greet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/541dc666-8dfb-44d9-a3fa-24df9a5d3614[/URL]

She asked for $400 M&G then $550 PPM. But no sex on first or second dates.

[QUOTE=FakeGnus;5867269]Was it bareback?[/QUOTE]Didn't partake, too high for me. In her private photos she has a smoking body, very toned.

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5868251]Ok the first one was this gal from Venezuela she has blocked me already. She just does cam shows for $60 for 20 minutes.

Number 2: Dream Big Babe: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/34aa764d-921c-48cc-95a2-29bdb4a3dfb9[/URL] She wants $400.00 for rent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5869055]Number 2 is Emma, fun if you can get her in the sack, but good luck getting her into the sack LOL.[/QUOTE]She upped it to 500 for rent and said that she was going to get evicted today. She was dtf and wanted to host at a sauna in Fed Way but could only hang out for an hour so I passed and wished her luck.

So I signed up Secret Benefits because I'm still banned from Seeking and can't seem to get around their checks to create a new account. My old nanny uses Secret Benefits and told me how many girls were on there so I figured I'd try it out. However, I've found it to be way worse than Seeking. I have had only one girl message me back (a known pro in the Kansas City area). Lots of women message me first but then don't write back after that, which of course is really shady because you have to pay to read the message they sent to you. Does this site even work or is this site a complete scam?

I have a full rotation recruited off of Secret Benefits. The "one message and done" thing is annoying, yes. But there is lots of willing and available pussy that just needs a little help too.

It helps if you focus on ladies 25 and over. Most of the fakers post with a younger age.

This is the only site I have spent any $ on so my experience with other sites is limited. Agree that the one and done is annoying & also agree to the sweet spot being mid to late 20's. My only tip for that site is to sort by newest members and try and get to them before they become jaded and develop GPS. Oh and try searching in the the south sound area. It has been a target rich environment for me.

Happy hunting gentlemen!

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;5869573]She upped it to 500 for rent and said that she was going to get evicted today. She was dtf and wanted to host at a sauna in Fed Way but could only hang out for an hour so I passed and wished her luck.[/QUOTE]Well Baby is gone now. She must have gotten rent. Oh Well she'll probably be back for another dick lashing.

The first two look too butch for my taste. I like girls who are more feminine.

[QUOTE=Omgwtflolsu;5861090]Long time lurker here and finally tried out Seeking. Here are my initial reports:

This one quoted me 600 PPM (she said only if we vibe, so I'm guessing the 600 is only if I actually end up at her place). She noted she can host and has a flexible schedule. If I ever take the plunge (I actually may), I'll note what she offers:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/367467af-d88f-4462-8fb7-4005c1c55dae[/URL]

I had endless chatting with this one and she ended up quoting me 300 PPM, but was not clear on what that included. We did an initial meet and greet and I didn't give her anything other than paying for her drinks. She listed off a ton of health and mental issues and ended the meet greet after 2 hours. Afterwards, sent me an e-mail asking if I wanted to see her again and gave me her Cashapp. I told her I'd only see her again in a non-platonic capacity and never heard from her again:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ccd49465-899c-4f57-9627-f7d92d1aa50b[/URL]

This one basically straight up just said "let me show you a good time" and we moved to e-mail right away. She was pretty all over the place. Started by saying everything is covered and she doesn't do anal, then out of nowhere states "I believe you said $350" when we had no discussion of price. On top of that, she noted she can't host when my profile specifically states I require it. I simply noted if you can't host it's a deal breaker and we stopped talking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c16604e1-7a6e-40a2-b848-13849a14813e[/URL]

I'm pretty hesitant to discuss any type of specific services offered in writing so unfortunately I don't know what's on the table with the people I message, but figured I'd offer up some info of my own for once.[/QUOTE]

These two butch women are ridiculous! I wouldn't pay $100 for both of them combined.

When they start their profile with, "Please don't send a private photo request without a message unless you buy something from our wishlist 💖" then I'm just SMH wondering what delusion-inducing part of them thinks this is remotely realistic.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5864377][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4241037c-f815-435b-8ee3-02c7b30022b6[/URL]

$1200 together, $750 one, condoms required, no giving oral or receiving anal.[/QUOTE]

She's an escort. I'm sure she doesn't give a flying f**k who it is, as long as she makes money. What I find concerning is how when I was young, conservatives HATED Russia, now an alarming amount of conservatives are tripping over themselves to embrace authoritarian style leaders like Putin and consider Russia an ally. Not all conservatives, but far too may.

I'd consider myself more in touch with a true conservative like George Will than a faux-conservative huckster like Donald Trump.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;5868019]And I am sure she is ashamed of taking a load from a Biden Supporter! Ewwww.[/QUOTE]

You have to take a couple steps to get around the ban, TNA.

1) Empty the cache from your browser.

2) Delete the cookies for Seeking.

3) Set up a new email account just for Seeking. You can have it forward your emails to another address. I suggest using Albine / Blur (albine. Com) to mask your email address. It's free.

4) Pre-write your new profile in a Notes or something.

5) Go to a coffee house or some place with free WiFi, sign up there using their IP address.

6) Paste your new profile content, but do NOT upload photos.

7) When logging in from home after your account set-up and verification, use a new VPN connection.

8) Wait 3-4 weeks before uploading different photos of yourself than you used last time. If possible, strip all METADATA from the photos.

9) Enjoy.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5870180]So I signed up Secret Benefits because I'm still banned from Seeking and can't seem to get around their checks to create a new account. My old nanny uses Secret Benefits and told me how many girls were on there so I figured I'd try it out. However, I've found it to be way worse than Seeking. I have had only one girl message me back (a known pro in the Kansas City area). Lots of women message me first but then don't write back after that, which of course is really shady because you have to pay to read the message they sent to you. Does this site even work or is this site a complete scam?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5871388]You have to take a couple steps to get around the ban, TNA.

1) Empty the cache from your browser.

2) Delete the cookies for Seeking.

3) Set up a new email account just for Seeking. You can have it forward your emails to another address. I suggest using Albine / Blur (albine. Com) to mask your email address. It's free.

4) Pre-write your new profile in a Notes or something.

5) Go to a coffee house or some place with free WiFi, sign up there using their IP address.

6) Paste your new profile content, but do NOT upload photos.

7) When logging in from home after your account set-up and verification, use a new VPN connection.

8) Wait 3-4 weeks before uploading different photos of yourself than you used last time. If possible, strip all METADATA from the photos.

9) Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Ok but this part isn't the issue. I get banned the moment that I attempt to pay for the subscription and I've tried using various temporary cards and what not using the addresses of one of my rental properties in a different state etc. No matter what I've tried, they always get me. I admittedly have not tried it for several months, but at least in my initial tests, Seeking is the best thing out there. I still see some Seeking girls but I'm unable to meet anyone new off the site.

You could also try privacy. Com.

I use it for a variety of monthly auto / deduction bills. You register and verify your identity, validate your funding source, then you can set up numerous virtual cards, set spending limits, etc. I also use this for travel, reservations, etc. It helps me to keep track of who has a certain card number and if there's been a breach. It's the same reason I use Albine. I like to keep track of who is leaking my information. If there's ever a problem, Privacy can help resolve it and you can delete that particular virtual card number.

It's actually what I use for Seeking.

Alternatively, there are some ViSA gift cards you can purchase, then register them online. I've done it with a fictitious name for other sites that require a credit card. Maybe it's worth trying.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5871407]Ok but this part isn't the issue. I get banned the moment that I attempt to pay for the subscription and I've tried using various temporary cards and what not using the addresses of one of my rental properties in a different state etc. No matter what I've tried, they always get me. I admittedly have not tried it for several months, but at least in my initial tests, Seeking is the best thing out there. I still see some Seeking girls but I'm unable to meet anyone new off the site.[/QUOTE]

Have a new report to share on SurprisedDame420 (sorry I don't have the link, I eventually blocked her just to be safe). Reached out to me pretty aggressively saying hey, let's meet I'm trying to fuck and get paid. I immediately moved the conversation to e-mail and she immediately just e-mailed me her phone number with "ppm" as the title. I blocked her on Seeking just to ensure I don't get in trouble with the website. Between the fact that she's only been a member 2 weeks, has not had anything verified and is being so forward, I suspected it's L. E. After some back and forth I get her Facebook info and it seems legit enough to not be faked (although still a tad iffy). I get her to send a pic and she gives me a pic of her boobs and I start digging for info. Eventually confirm that she can host in Burien in a private condo for 300/ hr, but nothing bare and payment upfront. I decide it's not worth the trouble. Red flags: 1. One of her responses was "sorry I'm so forward, I have a drug habit to support" 2. Really doesn't follow instructions. 3. Seems too desperate, which always freaks me out because someone desperate for a fix might do crazy things. She kept saying the sooner we can meet the better. Lastly, she's just not that hot.

TLDR-300/ hr, all covered. Good luck if you take the plunge.

Heatherx_232 on Secret Benefits contacted me & seemed extremely eager to meet. Came across as humble at first, but quickly started asking about gifts, allowance, having bills paid and telling me how much other guys offer. Was seeking 800 to 1000 PPM. Definitely felt a semi-pro vibe and shut things down quickly. Too many better options IMO.

Happy Hunting Gentlemen!

[QUOTE=Muncher7000;5870736]Well Baby is gone now. She must have gotten rent. Oh Well she'll probably be back for another dick lashing.[/QUOTE]Just saw that her profile is back up. The messages that we had or gone now so I have to reconnect and see what is happening.

[QUOTE=Omgwtflolsu;5872445]Have a new report to share on SurprisedDame420 (sorry I don't have the link, I eventually blocked her just to be safe). Reached out to me pretty aggressively saying hey, let's meet I'm trying to fuck and get paid. I immediately moved the conversation to e-mail and she immediately just e-mailed me her phone number with "ppm" as the title. I blocked her on Seeking just to ensure I don't get in trouble with the website. Between the fact that she's only been a member 2 weeks, has not had anything verified and is being so forward, I suspected it's L. E. After some back and forth I get her Facebook info and it seems legit enough to not be faked (although still a tad iffy). I get her to send a pic and she gives me a pic of her boobs and I start digging for info. Eventually confirm that she can host in Burien in a private condo for 300/ hr, but nothing bare and payment upfront. I decide it's not worth the trouble. Red flags: 1. One of her responses was "sorry I'm so forward, I have a drug habit to support" 2. Really doesn't follow instructions. 3. Seems too desperate, which always freaks me out because someone desperate for a fix might do crazy things. She kept saying the sooner we can meet the better. Lastly, she's just not that hot.

TLDR-300/ hr, all covered. Good luck if you take the plunge.[/QUOTE]Did a search of Seeking with that handle and couldn't find her. Any suggestion?

[QUOTE=SvenDawg;5873038]Heatherx_232 on Secret Benefits contacted me & seemed extremely eager to meet. Came across as humble at first, but quickly started asking about gifts, allowance, having bills paid and telling me how much other guys offer. Was seeking 800 to 1000 PPM. Definitely felt a semi-pro vibe and shut things down quickly. Too many better options IMO.

Happy Hunting Gentlemen![/QUOTE]"If other guys are offering you that much, why are you here messaging me?

I should program that as a hot key on my computer.

If other guys were offering what they said they were, they wouldn't waste one second of their time trying to get you to raise your offer to that amount.

It's like the 19 YO I met that had a guy offer her $2000 for all night of no holes barred sex. He did exactly what I expected for someone paying $2000 for (she said she he pounded her ass so hard, she couldn't sit for a week), but at the time she didn't know how depraved some men and thought it was going to be a romantic night. What's her base line for sex on a date now? $2000. How many takers does she get? 0.