Scrolling through the names and recognize a few from the other site. New to the OC so still trying to see which org to get verified with. Any org / providers recommendations for young providers.
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Scrolling through the names and recognize a few from the other site. New to the OC so still trying to see which org to get verified with. Any org / providers recommendations for young providers.
[B][url=https://losangeleskoreangirls.com/]losangeleskoreangirls.com[/url][/B]
[QUOTE=KalvinHobbs;5951728]SAG and CGLA the same org?[/QUOTE]They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;5943155]There is a need for accurate information in today's k-girl environment full of re-brands so there is definitely a demand and opportunity. I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.[/QUOTE]
When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5952112]They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.
When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.[/QUOTE]This has become annoying as info for a girl may have like 3 or 4 names you have to search under if a booker has girl lisited in slightliy different name.
[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;5951290]Responding to each point in this thread since I originally posted on Blue with LAKAngels, first, I'd guess she is not the girl in the picture, but she's similar looking. She looked pretty young to me, definitely not old, but since I'm 70+, nearly all of them look young to me. I did not sense any smoker's breath, so maybe it's an on-and-off thing with her. On reflection, I guess I didn't get any LFK or DFK, but at the time I didn't miss it. But I can still feel her tongue working my pole, FWIW.
But again, most important, her attitude. For me, sensing that my sex drive is a welcome, enjoyed presence in the room (and in the body) is what I'm there for.
Lift Her Up.[/QUOTE]Agreed on Beauty in eye. However, she looks like 40+ with my Asian eye. LOL!
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;5951623]Nicoles pics are under PapayaOC currently just click on there pics.[/QUOTE]Thanks, saw her in SAG. I'd put her late 40's 320 hr MSOG. Weak BJ like others have mentioned but nice lady.
[QUOTE=TnaStylez;5943155]I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.[/QUOTE]I thought about this some more, and I think that advertising and reviewing cannot effectively coexist in the same site. The purpose of reviews is to bring truth to advertising, but if you make your money through advertising, something is going to have to give. A recent example of this is PD, where they've long been accused of allowing the deletion of negative (but not necessarily inaccurate) reviews. As if that weren't bad enough, on June 11th, they're making you upgrade your account to VIP to read reviews whereas they are currently free to read as long as you're signed in. See this discussion for details. Click on "View Original Post".
[QUOTE=Jbjb1983;5951849]Looks like PD will start charging 66 a week that will be a min 264 a month to be able to read full reviews! WTF!![/QUOTE]My conclusion is that you can be an advertising site or a review site but not both. Advertising will dominate if you try.
[B]Order out of K-Chaos[/B]
The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.
A solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands]Kgirls Rebrands[/url][/B] thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.
With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5956426]
The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.
.[/QUOTE]The multiple booker per girl system is quite interesting. The other day, a new booker which I never dealt with said I was already verified and good to go. Which begs the question, who vouched for me and what information was shared? I can't help but be concerned about this as it only takes one bad actor to ruin lives (ie: doxxing clients or LEO obtaining from a sloppy booker).
But I understand these are the risks. Just can't help but be more mindful.
[QUOTE=GG1234;5956426][B]Order out of K-Chaos[/B]A solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the [B][url=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands]Kgirls Rebrands[/url][/B] thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.
With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.[/QUOTE]Yeah, good luck in getting people to do this. It's only "chaos" and a problem if one thinks that everything should be organized, consistent, easy to find, and comprehensive. That's the "system" out there, and customers figure it out and adjust accordingly. People who try to "fix" the kgirl business model and the way they operate is a futile exercise. One just has to learn how to navigate through this with the available information.
Saw Alexa with KStars last night. Older, average body, 6.5/10 face. Kept telling me she loved me but got BBFS no upcharge. YMMV.
Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
She didn't speak much English, so in these situations I work on being extra affectionate (little kisses on her back or the top of her head while she is cleaning me). I've found it creates a tone for the session where they dovetail off of that and reciprocate all the little things that make GFE awesome (one I loved was our hands interlocked during BBBJ).
She was fantastic, others have said she takes her time, which she does, but she is still very efficient. I was concerned I was close to going over my hr, but at the end of an amazing sensual 2 pop session, I still had 5 min to spare.
We only did 1 position (cg), which worked for me since I was kind of on a chemical buzz. She gave an amazing sensual BBBJ which never felt like I was going to pop, but just felt amazing throughout. Once she climbed on top, her technique of fucking my tip with the occasional full insertion was too much for me to hold on. I told her I was cumming and she locked me inside of her working every last drop. It was incredible.
Now I don't know what you all think of this, but I found it hot. She didn't rinse out. She still had all my kiddies floating around in her while massaging me and getting me ready for round two which served as it's own kind of lube.
Now, usually my "glass dick" will attempt a 2nd round but never complete just because the amount of stimulation needed to get me there is too much for a girl to handle. To put it in perspective, I spent a whole hr with JuicyWetMary once in this state and couldn't even pop once, and she worked hard the whole hr. Was still hella fun to get worked like that though. Not IU. She worked my dick with so much fast stimulation that I came so hard for round 2. There was a point where I was almost ready to call it when she must have sensed something and kicked into high gear. And again she locked me in her so well that I didn't pop out of her until I had gone soft. The feeling of my dick popping out after slowly shrinking with every pleasure pulse was very satisfying. Only other person so far to deliver the 2nd pop in my state was Scarlett. The k-girls are special.
Def a repeat for me. I do wish she was younger, but then the skill level likely wouldn't be what it is here. She looked to be a plain early 40's, short af but was a hell of a fuckdoll. I would love a doubles session with her and Scarlett, but I can't ustify what the cost of what an msog hr BB session would be if the base is $ x 7 (more than 2 individual hrs.).
Treat her well boys.
[QUOTE=Egarii3;5956631]The multiple booker per girl system is quite interesting. The other day, a new booker which I never dealt with said I was already verified and good to go. Which begs the question, who vouched for me and what information was shared? I can't help but be concerned about this as it only takes one bad actor to ruin lives (ie: doxxing clients or LEO obtaining from a sloppy booker).
But I understand these are the risks. Just can't help but be more mindful.[/QUOTE]Just like the girls can choose to go by different names, especially on different sites, I think some bookers have multiple handles, or at least work for a larger group that arranges some stuff (apartments / transportation / visas etc).
[QUOTE=EuphoriaSeeker;5964529]Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
Treat her well boys.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review, but that upcharge for BBFS is a killer.
Any intel on Zayla with LAK / IKM?
[QUOTE=EuphoriaSeeker;5964529]Got my some time with IU, pics were deceptive but we already know that. What we come for is the top notch service.
She didn't speak much English, so in these situations I work on being extra affectionate (little kisses on her back or the top of her head while she is cleaning me). I've found it creates a tone for the session where they dovetail off of that and reciprocate all the little things that make GFE awesome (one I loved was our hands interlocked during BBBJ).
She was fantastic, others have said she takes her time, which she does, but she is still very efficient. I was concerned I was close to going over my hr, but at the end of an amazing sensual 2 pop session, I still had 5 min to spare.
We only did 1 position (cg), which worked for me since I was kind of on a chemical buzz. She gave an amazing sensual BBBJ which never felt like I was going to pop, but just felt amazing throughout. Once she climbed on top, her technique of fucking my tip with the occasional full insertion was too much for me to hold on. I told her I was cumming and she locked me inside of her working every last drop. It was incredible.
Now I don't know what you all think of this, but I found it hot. She didn't rinse out. She still had all my kiddies floating around in her while massaging me and getting me ready for round two which served as it's own kind of lube.[/QUOTE]May I ask if you provided additional upcharges? I saw IU and we connected well but when I asked for entry without the hat, she said no and I mentioned I would add more tips and she still denied. Also didn't want a second pop out of me. I was very respectful, clean, and and young and in good shape. Please advise.