Ha that is funny, IMO it's like they get paid a premium for being subpar.
[QUOTE=Playboy54; 1378840]Yup, the girls are asking about the other places because there DUD service has been reported. So they just move to another AMP and give shitty service all over again. I would suggest you only say. I only come to this place. But after what I got from you. I will look for another place. I enjoyed your report. However, some on this board are providers posing as customers. They will claim you made it all up. One time at Pacific Spa. I thanked the Vietnamese girl for her shitty service and said I will never come here again. She said WHY. I said because sex with you was bad.
In Hawaii. Shitty over-priced service can be had!
Playboy54[/QUOTE]Well that could be 1 truth, I would say that it's not based on her service as it is based on how many times the girl gets picked. They have only so many spots at the table. If you work there and are not getting picked they have the "talk." Because it may be better for a non-picked girl to go somewhere else. Sometimes they replace them sometimes not.
Random observation & 2 vague reports
[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1379102]When you're a younger guy, typically, most of them will want to do a provider that's younger. For most, they don't get turned on by a provider that's older. Unless, she still looks good for her age that they'll consider it. As you get older, then you don't mind trying the older provider (s) as you yourself is getting older. You become more lenient on the age.[/QUOTE]All true bro. I think its obvious a younger guy will be attracted to a younger provider. But I was more referring to the Attitude & personalities of some of the young ones. In terms of "clicking" more with them. Young enthusiasm as I like to call it.
This is what I have concluded just from my own "personal experiences." (just IMO on my sessions for me, myself & I ok) I think a provider is simply more likely to "click" with someone close to her age. Whether its 25 or 45. And I hope you guys know, by "clicking" I only mean that customer-provider 1 hour fantasy in the room relationship alright. The type of connection that will make you want to repeat often. I am much closer to the age of the 20 somethings than I am a MILF. By like 1/3 to 1/4 the amount. A Monica or Lisa at 321 would be like 1/7 the amount.
I mongered a 27 yr old youngun & a 40 something MILF this week. Now granted, this is the only MILF I ever had besides the top 3 BBBJ famous 3. But the MILF was maybe my least favorite session since I found this site. Still had fun tho, thats for sure.
The Youngun talked a lot with me, laughed & joked & gave the best TS I had in a while. In the room as I am sitting up at the edge of the bed she walked right into my arms & we hugged & held each other while caressing & LFK for little under 5 mins. She was very affectionate like I am. As she went down on her knees she tittyf*cked me wen I put jr between her boobs. Then gave some great head. Every position we did came naturally, not as a command or suggestion to help me cum fast. Felt like bangin a regular girl from the club (like my Channel Experience). Did standing doggy, CG, RCG, regular doggy till cum. I try to finish faster nowadays just to hopefully lay & cuddle with the girls & talk story after. After a 10 min TS, we went for 35 mins, afterwards she cuddled & caressed my body, balls & shaft the whole time while we talked for 15 mins. Real fun to talk to. No knock from MS at this place & I got an hour. All covered service. Got her # & she's 1 of my new ATFs.
The MILF was all business. Came into room where I was sitting up & asked me to lay face down. Awe man, already feel like I am about to do a provider. The fantasy is over now. Told her no need massage. So she gets down to biz & down on her knees. What, no hug? No lovey dovey sweet talk & kisses? Crap. OK put it in your mouth then. BBBJ on knees. After 5 freakin minutes she asks me to CIM. I don't really consider that rushed or anything but she did think she could have made me cum in 5 mins. She had no idea we were just getting started but she was game with no complaints so that was good. Next she BBBJ while standing & leaning down. 69 but I pushed her off my face, BBBJ from my side, back on her knees while I stand up & mouthfuck her gently, then her on the bed while I am standing, then more on the bed with her on all fours, then 69 again. She suggested some BJ positions so she could be more comfortable. Perfectly fine, but felt like I am banging a provider. Asked for doggy & she told me "pull out, don't cum inside me ok" so BBFS was offered. But I chose covered doggy till I came. Should have asked to CIM but I forgot. Service was great obviously. Physically, it felt great. But we did not click. I hardly spoke to her & she never said much either. After she hot towel cleaned me & kissed jr's head but sat at the edge of the bed facing away from me waiting for me to take the hint LOL. There was at least 20 mins left in my hour which at this AMP I would have got the hour. But no talk, no cuddle, no offer of massage. I really don't mind or care believe me, but I am just pointing out she was nothing like just about every young girl I have had. She was a total P2P experience & no GFE at all. If I were like Playboy54, I would call this provider a "dud" since I did not get the specific types of "menu items" I want wen I monger. But she is no dud. Thats for sure. She BBBJ BBFS & CIM, so she can't be a dud right LOL. Just not for me. I asked for her # too, nah just kidding.
Anyway just my 2 cents & my 2 reports. Hope I don't offend anyone here.
Name change Lotus to Oasis to Victoria
New name they could not use Qasis change to Victoria. The rooms are very nice and clean, they got 2 table shower had a nice time with Michele.
Happy Mongering
Thanks for TOFTT Chasin It. We all believe you LOL.
[QUOTE=Chasin It; 1378820]Thanks to those that post it helps a lot.
Travel back and forth to so constantly shifting sands here in the hobby. Saw the Ginza reports and ad photos and being my to do list seemed mostly to be on vacation went there tonight. Mama friendly wanted to immediately lead me to room. Local girl on couch. I show momma BP AD photo of kneeling lady and she acted like she didn't know her so asked local girl from couch and she didn't either but said thats me on the bed. Yep it was, nice tatas but no ass, none. Ask to see line up. Amy and Cindy come out. Amy nice Body pretty face but manmades look hard. Cindy pretty face softer looking C manmades and a bit softer look about her. I tell mama either and she takes me to room. Cindy comes in asks the usual Qs and tels me to undress and leaves the room. On return leads me to table shower room. I showered alone after asking for TS then back to room. Begins lay down on back on goes raincoat and starts CBJ I rise nicely to the occasion. Goes for about 3 minutes then abruptly stops and asks for donation. WTF! I stand still at attention and tell her with a smile tacky tacky. I had new bills and licked my finger to count the donation and she goes oh no touch with spit. Shrinking fast Back to business. No DATY no touch nips with finger tips only cupped hand. CG, MISH, went to kiss her cheek freaks out. Thought I was going for her lips, oh ok there so I do then she wipes her cheek. Doggy for a good pounding but she s doing everything to not grip willy. So stand her up bend her over bed and pound her like a ex girlfriend grudge bang. She made all the right sounds and I got into that whether she did or not. Pounded the hell out of her then finished. Took me back to shower and gave me a vanilla table shower. Back at room she asked me what places I have been and I name a few including VIP. She said oh I just came from there. Said she didn't recognize me and I named a couple of ladies from a couple of years ago that she knew. I asked what name she used over there and she said Gina. I said ya I could tell you worked there you definately gave me the VIP treatment. You need to lighten up not all your customers are going to be visitors here so don't treat them like they are. Nice enough lady but felt like I had traveled down the production line. Sure I did but she can pretend.
Face 9 body 8 service 7 late 20, s or a touch more usual damage. If there is a next time at that place maybe Amy.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Playboy54; 1378840]Yup, the girls are asking about the other places because there DUD service has been reported. So they just move to another AMP and give shitty service all over again. I would suggest you only say. I only come to this place. But after what I got from you. I will look for another place. I enjoyed your report. However, some on this board are providers posing as customers. They will claim you made it all up. One time at Pacific Spa. I thanked the Vietnamese girl for her shitty service and said I will never come here again. She said WHY. I said because sex with you was bad.
In Hawaii. Shitty over-priced service can be had!
Playboy54[/QUOTE]Sorry to inform you Playboy54 but once again, as usual, you can't assume anyone will treat others the way they treat you & you specifically. Do you see anyone claiming brother Chasin It is lying? No you don't. In fact I already PM him with a personal thank you & some recommendations at Ginza I just hope he will enjoy. I wanted that girl Cindy, I even mentioned her wen I 1st posted the ads. So since he TOFTT & helped me save 2 bills I am extremely grateful since I will not be picking her now. Thanks for that Chasin It! The asking for tip in mid BJ was 1 of the worst f*ckin things I have ever read.
I'm just pointing this out here. If there was ever a time to call a dumb bi*ch a "DUD" it would be this hoe Cindy here. But unlike PB54, Chasin It stated what he himself personally didn't like about Cindy & he moves on. He let us kno what's up but maybe he figures YMMV. I wouldve given her a PB54 review for sure tho. Playboy54, girls that don't do all that you want are not all duds. They simply do not offer the menu items you prefer. U do realize that your biggest problem is hoping all will DFK DATY & BBFS don't you? For one, you have to at least go to the right freakin AMP. Stay away from VIP you genius. This is no joke, no sarcasm, no insult at all, but VIP is DEFINITELY not providers for Playboy54 okaaaaaay. Some helpful advice for you. VIP is all covered service okaaaaay! For PB54 type service you have to do your homework & go straight for a specific provider not just try your bad luck at any AMP. I have no idea why you literally start your posts with "felt like some shitty service today" & then you head to a place like VIP, Ichiban or Seven looking for BBFS. Have you not heard of Kison, CHM. 321 or other places. Use your freakin head man.
Anyway thanks again Chasin It. Everyone avoid Cindy.
My 2 cent on Ck813's VIP / Golden Butterfly fiasco
[QUOTE=Ck813; 1379197]After seeing all the Police officer, Bus supervisors, Ambulance and fire truck decided to head over to VIP. Once I entered noticed the MS all different. Lots of pretty girls Korean white etc. Sitting on the couch. Picked Mimi wearing a beautiful Blue bikini and pretty face with huge tits and not bad ass.
Pay mama the. 50 HF and go into room with Mimi. MS and Mimi tell me this girl just came to Hawaii. I do not think so. In the room boom okay pay first says Mimi. I tell her no way. I hug her and get a kiss on the lips. I hug her again and she says okay pay first. I tell her I never pay first. So now I ask her if she kisses dfk and BBBJ. She says no. Pay first. I say no and she asks why? I tell her if you give shitty service I aint paying you. She is so pretty I tell her ok lets have fun. Pay first she says and I say again no. She walks out of the room and who knows where she went.
I am not feeling it anymore so I walk out looking for MS for my money back. Two girls Asian tell me wait MS busy. I walk to the left side and they start yelling hey wait. Now I am pretty upset and just want my money back. The girls continue to hassle me. MS finally comes to the front and gives me my money. She looks upset too but I do not care. Mimi tells me in front of everyone, nobody does that. I look at her and tell her so.
Man has VIP changed. I use to frequent the place 2-3 times a month sometimes 4. Had Nina, Million, and some others who never asked for money up first and always gave above excellent service.
So now I head off to Golden Butterfly thinking this is GQ. Boy sure is not. Two fugly providers and one is such a fricking Bth$$. The other is really nice but too big and the face will not do it for me. The older one looked top be in her 50's was so mean yelling out from what looked like the kitchen. Nobody here! I do not know Jay, I do not know Alice or I do not know Sara. Obviously because I was in the wrong place. Such poor customer service.
These establishments need to be more friendly and if we do not get what we want and walk out, they should not get upset. Makes them look bad and not want me to return.
VIP, Golden Butterfly is off my list. I am going to GQ and find Jay! If not then off to Ginza to try the local girl!
Wish me luck. I do not know where Lotus or Oasis is located or if they are the same place. I want Michelle again formerly of Pink. Nice BBBJ, some BBFS and some very little but some DFK. Good rubdown and good lay. Maybe because I was her very first customer according to her.
Trying to be humble but I have been looked as a model except for the body. I am heavy now with muscles. But my friends say I am a bit too blunt with the ladies and I need to give more charm. The old Yuri loved me. And a lot of providers have told me why I go this kind places. Because I do not know how to pick up women and too scared because of the rape and pregnancy factor.
CK. Sorry so long winded![/QUOTE]First off, you did not mention where the heck you were before heading to VIP. Where were all these police officers, bus supervisors, ambulance and fire truck that got you spooked? Was it some kind of accident involving a bus?
I can sympathized with your dissatisfaction at VIP about Mimi wanting payment upfront before the actual deed. It's probably wise of you to have walked away. But perhaps, her asking tip upfront is S. O. P. For new providers AND also because you are a new customer. To be fair, she may have even been ripped-off or cheated in the past after service was offered. This was her way to protect herself from unfamiliar customer. I'm sure her past bad experiences taught her to be on her guard.
Regarding your mishap at Golden Butterfly, I can vouch for the 2 providers. In their defense, she was not "yelling" in anger but in volume. The kitchen is about 20 feet away from the entrance / exit. You must've mistaken her intentions. And in all fairness, you admitted to your error thinking it was GQ you were at. You also must've irritated the hell out of the two GB staff when everyone is trying their best to stay afloat in this bad economy.
It would serve you well in the near future to call ahead and make an appointment first before you provoke any more unwanted "customer service". The customer is not always right! It is a 2-way street, Ck813. You want to be treated right then follow the Golden Rule and don't be such a hard-ass. Providers for the most part do not want to lose any business and pissing off customers are not in their best interest.
Ck813, I expect better class from a "senior" member. The fact that you mistaken GB for GQ means you need your bigger head more than your little one. Please do not repeat again anywhere else. You give all of us monger a shameful image. I apologize if my 2 cents offend you. Just wanted to clarify and give the GB providers' their point of view.
Stay Safe, Sober and Sincere.
-JB