"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5910037]She is fun - "proceedure" might well be the three year BC as she has been BBFS and CIP for a long time with me -- used to be in C'ville so I have not seen her for a while. Rather shy and quiet -- take her a drink to liven her up! Not on any monkey which is refreshing in itself![/QUOTE]Really, I've been seeing her since before she moved for about 18 months and was always CFS, and BBBJ but recently changed to CBJ. While citing me for a steep amount. Damn, next you'll tell me she was doing greek on the regular.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5910182]Really, I've been seeing her since before she moved for about 18 months and was always CFS, and BBBJ but recently changed to CBJ. While citing me for a steep amount. Damn, next you'll tell me she was doing greek on the regular.[/QUOTE]I used to visit with her quite a bit, always BBBJ and never greek. She started CFS and I rolled with it- sort of "tell" which makes me nervous: high volume so playing it safe or maybe there is or has been an issue to make her change her ways. Cover sounds good at that point.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5909735]Yes, I know her. Like always with any Baby, YMMV. No clue why she made you cover for a BJ, if it was a first. Maybe a cleanliness issue on your part? If your a regular like you claim, why don't you ask her? If your one of her regulars, you know she's easy to talk to & your helping out more than just her by giving her a regular allowance. She appreciates it IMHO.

For anyone who wants to see her, $300, great body, I think she's very pretty in a nerdy way. Hosts, great for anyone like me that doesn't want to spring for a hotel. Make your own contact through SA, if you can't afford to join, you can't afford to be a Daddy.

She's not shy, ask her what you want but be classy about it & you'll get the info you need. Please no white knights discussing my post. Freak'and Simps![/QUOTE]That was all true until lately, her reasoning was, she made everyone go covered due to a scare with a regular, and has been CBJ ever since. I never knew BBFS was on the table, I asked about that back in June 2020. She stopped being easy to talk to and ghosted me after she needed money for medical and bills, then I asked about going back to BBBJ and she freaked out and ghosted me. Out a nice bit of money, wish I knew she was 300. That would have saved me a bit too.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;5896872]Specifically regarding the move from BBBJ to CBJ? IMHO she has another SD or BF and doesn't want to be spreading contagion and be blamed for it

In general, when a SB starts adding rules, she is making a move to control the situation because she thinks she can. You need to shut that down in a hurry. It will ultimately lead to a request for money (as your situation did), either for something real or just as an excuse to get more money. I had a SB once who asked for a "loan" to get her brother bailed out of jail. I knew I would never see her or that money ever again, or it would be the start of more requests, like I was her personal piggy bank. When I politely refused, she ghosted me forever after, proving my suspicion. She was thinking about leaving me anyway and wanted a going away present.

Women are very good at getting money from men: SBs, GFs whatever. If you are with a woman long enough she will be hinting after your wallet in some way or another: for gifts, favors or actual cash, especially if they think you have money to spread around, which SDs usually give their SBs the impression that they do. When that happens it is either time to be a sap or to pull in the reins and / or pull the plug. No matter how sweet and wonderful and sexually satisfying a SB is, there are plenty more where she came from.[/QUOTE]Well stated.

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5910182]Really, I've been seeing her since before she moved for about 18 months and was always CFS, and BBBJ but recently changed to CBJ. While citing me for a steep amount. Damn, next you'll tell me she was doing greek on the regular.[/QUOTE]She has with a friend of mine. We did her in a threesome and he did it VERY slowly -- she enjoyed, but has had experiences not so good. - well you did ask!

[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5910648]That was all true until lately, her reasoning was, she made everyone go covered due to a scare with a regular, and has been CBJ ever since. I never knew BBFS was on the table, I asked about that back in June 2020. She stopped being easy to talk to and ghosted me after she needed money for medical and bills, then I asked about going back to BBBJ and she freaked out and ghosted me. Out a nice bit of money, wish I knew she was 300. That would have saved me a bit too.[/QUOTE]300 - never LOL I have never been more than 200 - and 100 for a QV once Now these were 3 years ago plus when she was in C'ville.

I had heard she had migrated to the 300 -- but unless you are there for multi-pops. She is not a 300 candidate in my book.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5910812]She has with a friend of mine. We did her in a threesome and he did it VERY slowly -- she enjoyed, but has had experiences not so good. - well you did ask![/QUOTE]She told me about that a MFM, we tried to set one up but she got really mad about it, and said how she doesn't really like them. I ask for BBFS and anal she said she doesn't do either but seems like that wasn't he whole truth.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5910818]300 - never LOL I have never been more than 200 - and 100 for a QV once Now these were 3 years ago plus when she was in C'ville.

I had heard she had migrated to the 300 -- but unless you are there for multi-pops. She is not a 300 candidate in my book.[/QUOTE]It's supply & demand. You want to get sticker shock? Try NoVa. $400 for homely Babies over weight, & no skills. $600-$1,000 for someone like LRF. I stopped even trying up there. Waste of time.

You saw LRF when last? Almost 1-1/2 to 2 years ago? Dude, gas was $2.00 & hamburger $3.00 a lb back then! LOL Insert political comment here! Ha, ha.

Bottom line. Once she hooks a couple of more regulars, she'll disappear again. I think the last time she was on SA was well over a year ago. She's not looking to feed a demon or buy designer purses, just keep a roof over her head, the lights on & food on the table.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5911035]It's supply & demand. You want to get sticker shock? Try NoVa. $400 for homely Babies over weight, & no skills. $600-$1,000 for someone like LRF. I stopped even trying up there. Waste of time.

You saw LRF when last? Almost 1-1/2 to 2 years ago? Dude, gas was $2.00 & hamburger $3.00 a lb back then! LOL Insert political comment here! Ha, ha.

Bottom line. Once she hooks a couple of more regulars, she'll disappear again. I think the last time she was on SA was well over a year ago. She's not looking to feed a demon or buy designer purses, just keep a roof over her head, the lights on & food on the table.[/QUOTE]All true, I remember when she left SA, and sugardaddy meet. However, I think the YMMV hurts use more, that's why I liked ECCIE, the reviews were clear on what to expect and for a price. Feeling some kind of way knowing that there was more and she just didn't share or straight up "lied" idk what I expected, but after looking back on it, nearly 3 years, more I guess. idk, getting up in my feelings over an argument.

This woman looks familiar. Isn't she the one with a corporate job that is super kinky. I think she does a lot of bareback sex. She is actually pretty cute for 47 and has a nice body. PM if you have had any experience with this one.

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[QUOTE=EscortReview89;5911348]All true, I remember when she left SA, and sugardaddy meet. However, I think the YMMV hurts use more, that's why I liked ECCIE, the reviews were clear on what to expect and for a price. Feeling some kind of way knowing that there was more and she just didn't share or straight up "lied" idk what I expected, but after looking back on it, nearly 3 years, more I guess. idk, getting up in my feelings over an argument.[/QUOTE]Not looking for an argument. I just feel, unlike an escort with certain menu & donations spelled out, a SB has the right to do what she's comfortable with with each individual Daddy. Alternatively, a Daddy votes with his wallet, looks for another Baby, if the experience doesn't meet his expectations / requirements.

For instance, my top priorities are DFK & DATY. She's shy until you get her motor running & my only real complaint is not hardly a kisser at all. Again YMMV, I had heard she did Greek on one occasion. Definitely not on the menu, too bad, she has an unreal ass for it!

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My last post on the subject, I'm starting to feel like her agent! LOL Full disclosure, do to her "special" family situation & being drug free (420 friendly, light drinker) I do want to see her not struggle financially. Because I see her, also want other Daddies to treat her right. She's legit a good egg. Plus I have a lot of experience in treating Babies right & having some awesome arrangements, over the last 4 years.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5910818]300 - never LOL I have never been more than 200 - and 100 for a QV once Now these were 3 years ago plus when she was in C'ville.

I had heard she had migrated to the 300 -- but unless you are there for multi-pops. She is not a 300 candidate in my book.[/QUOTE]Why would someone ever go the SB route and NOT be getting multiple pops and / or hours?

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;5912580]Why would someone ever go the SB route and NOT be getting multiple pops and / or hours?[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. This is the reason I only see SBs, and don't pursue blatant escorts putting themselves out there on the internet. Someone who has a menu, a time limit, who agrees to have sex w / someone by texting without having ever met them. They first are no one I would ever f* and second, meet my definition of escort.

I am after the GFE experience. I have had girls I have met from SA give me more of an escort experience, not totally, but still. And I didn't see them again. I have had ongoing and exclusive relationships with girls I met from SA as well. And given that I am retirement age and they were in the 20-40 year old range, I'm pretty proud of that. Great great experiences. Memories to take to the grave.

I've been chatting with a potential SB about BBFS. She is into it so long as I provide her with clean test results. I've never had to do that before because I'm certain I am clean. Is there a place I can go that will do testing and provide me with the results?

[QUOTE=TennisStud90;5912838]I've been chatting with a potential SB about BBFS. She is into it so long as I provide her with clean test results. I've never had to do that before because I'm certain I am clean. Is there a place I can go that will do testing and provide me with the results?[/QUOTE]If you want to do testing privately, there are a tonne of online sites. Google "STD Testing at home" to find the whole shebang.

I have used these sites before. They send you a kit, you go on line to "register" the kit and then collect the needed samples and return it in pre-paid mailer. Everything you need is included: collection cup for urine, pipette to transfer urine from cup to test tube, device to prick finger, card to drip blood drops on to, biohazard bags, return box, mailing label, etc. Also the websites often have "How To" sections or videos to follow if reading the DETAILED instructions confounds. Depending on which tests, or how many, one selects prices can run from $49 to $279.

I suggest getting a test that includes chlamydia because males often do not have symptoms and this is one of the most common STDs. Of course she is going to want to see a Negative HIV test, which is included in most multi-panel tests.

You get results online and can share them if needed. Different sites do things differently, so shop around.

I have used Everlywell and Let's Get Checked. When you register online you can use your Monger I'd, but you'll need a monger email and text capabilities. Actually bought one test through AZN and used Monger I'd to register it and get results.

Results take about a week because the place where you send your samples usually forwards them to independent labs. So plan ahead and don't take the test on a Friday or weekend.

If you don't care about anonymity, look around as most County Heath Departments have STD testing Clinics and those are usually free. Of course Planned Parenthood (usually around college campuses) has STD testing too, but that will be on a sliding scale "donation" depending on your annual income.

[i]So how do I know so much about the process, you ask? LOL[/i]

One day one of my SBs called me up in a panic. She reported that she had tested positive for [i]Trichomonas vaginalis[/i], commonly called Trich. WTF! Apparently I wasn't the only SD she was fucking! So I bought a limited test that tested for Trich, Gonorrhea and Chlamydia. Sent that in and waited. In the mean time, the SB was able to get her Doc to write a second script for the antibiotic that treats Trich and the SB brought it to me. TWO horse pills, each a gram (1,000 mg) of some antibiotic, so 2 grams (2,000 mg) of the drug. I took the treatment as a precaution. Three days later the test results came back NEGATIVE! Of course after that experience figured I better "know" if anything else was going on, so decided to get a "full panel" set of tests done. Spent HOURS researching the various tests and ranging prices before ordering a 7 panel test packet. One could spend more and get 9 or 12 panel tests. But the additional tests get into some pretty esoteric STDs (Gardnerella, Mycoplasma,Ureaplasma) and Hep A, B & C. Oh and if she's only concerned with HIV some sites have that as a single test.