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[QUOTE=BostonRedSox;4398029]How well / deep does Gina Rollins screen? Should I actually give her my real info?[/QUOTE]Gina is legit. Give her whatever info she asks for screening. If you think, its too much, then its too much but don't expect her to see you.
The July / August issue of Wired has a great article in it that details how and why Backpage got busted, what the current legal situation is with their case, and other information. According to the article, it was largely because of Backpage that FOSTA / SESTA got passed. The article is a fascinating read for anyone who is interested. I got my copy through my local library's digital service. Your local library might have a copy too so you don't need to go out and buy it.
[QUOTE=NYExplorer;4397756]Scientists have now cured HIV in mice for the first time, giving real hope that a cure is a few years away. Curious what the impact this will have on condom usage as this approaches a cure.[/QUOTE]Actually, according to my cousin who is a researcher in microbiology, there are 3 different methods that have been found to cure HIV. One has been tested in mice, one has been tested in humans, and one has not yet been tested except in tubes. The two that have been tested both involve gene manipulation and both tests have been successful. However, a real cure is still decades away (at least 2), especially in the USA The human patients that were cured were in the you. K. Even if they manage to formulate a cure over there within the next few years, they would have to find a company willing to manufacture it and market it. Then, to bring it to the USA Means new human trials (the FDA won't accept trials done in other countries) and a USA Company to manufacture it. That process takes another 10 years. All in all, my cousin estimates that a real cure available to patients everywhere is around 2-3 decades away even if one of the current methods turns out to be viable and marketable and even longer before it's cheap enough for most people to be able to afford it.
I don't think I'll live long enough to find out what happens with the cure. But, my suspicion is it would be another decade or two beyond that, with no new diseases or mutations, before people feel relaxed enough and certain enough to "forget" what happened with HIV / AIDS and return to the way things were in the 1960's. Early 1980's where condoms would rarely be used or even mentioned. I certainly won't be around to see that.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4397593]It'd be like 1985 again.
Seriously, what we have now may suck due to the draconian laws but back then. Well, it truly sucked. There was no Internet so getting information about who does what, whether they are rip-offs or whatever was near impossible. Sure, there was word of mouth, and a few magazines but for the most part those of us around back then took a LOT of chances. And mid-1980's was the height of the AIDS / HIV scare so you had that thrown in the mix, too. Back then there was so much unknown about the disease, and a lot of misinformation was being spread around. And many of the escorts I met back then had never even heard of AIDS.
I remember traveling (mostly the USA) and calling escort agencies I found in the yellow pages in the phone book and not knowing what I would get. Would I get someone who was a "real" escort? Would I get a cop? Would I get some drug addict? A woman who looked like Rodney Dangerfield? When I opened the door to my hotel room, I never knew what I was getting or what they would provide, or even how much it would cost. When you're 3,000 miles from home and worrying about someone turning up with a gun. Well, it wasn't good for the nerves.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention how drastically different the 80's were compared to today especially in regards to crime. Especially with cameras being everywhere now. Even if it's illegal, nobody as in nobody in law enforcement cares about prostitution in Manhattan unless it's the Asian spas. I think you are exaggerating a bit LOL. Especially with this being the Manhattan section. Probably one of the more safest cities in the country. Even with it being illegal, people will still hesitate to try and pull crimes on Johns. That happens more often in boroughs outside of Manhattan.
Even besides all of that, people have to stop being so scared about a world without Eros and Switter. We love to bring up these review sites and forums like this as if they do anything. As I'm talking as of now, months ago I think Eros stopped allowing providers to post their website links in their Eros ads. I'm not 100 percent sure but I think they did the same for their social media pages also.
So now it's more likely to get providers to see you without a reference. The whole reference thing is silly though because it's 2019 and anybody can change numbers and identities at will. I always cringed how both providers and clients in this city act like it's so dangerous when it's the safest city to hobby. And it will continue to be the safest even if the whole internet shuts down.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]You forgot to mention how drastically different the 80's were compared to today especially in regards to crime. Especially with cameras being everywhere now. Even if it's illegal, nobody as in nobody in law enforcement cares about prostitution in Manhattan unless it's the Asian spas.[/QUOTE]There are always news stories of brothels and agencies being busted or under investigation, and not just the asian spas. The stories may not make the papers, but if you have friends in law enforcement, or the hobby (and I do) you do hear the stories. NYPD makes sweeps of the areas were streetwalkers are prevalent at least once a month.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]I think you are exaggerating a bit LOL. Especially with this being the Manhattan section. Probably one of the more safest cities in the country. Even with it being illegal, people will still hesitate to try and pull crimes on Johns. That happens more often in boroughs outside of Manhattan.[/QUOTE]And yet, I hear stories of johns going to meet prostitutes in Manhattan that they met on switter, or bedpage, or skipthegames and getting robbed.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]Even besides all of that, people have to stop being so scared about a world without Eros and Switter.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's a question of being scared. I think it's a question of worrying about being unable to find information.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]We love to bring up these review sites and forums like this as if they do anything.[/QUOTE]If they don't do anything, then why are you here?
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]As I'm talking as of now, months ago I think Eros stopped allowing providers to post their website links in their Eros ads. I'm not 100 percent sure but I think they did the same for their social media pages also.[/QUOTE]That may be true for Eros but not for all the other sites out there. Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes not to have a website in the ad. It's easy enough to find the websites and Eros isn't fooling anybody.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]So now it's more likely to get providers to see you without a reference.[/QUOTE]Have you tried? Those escorts that insist on references, still insist on references. Those escorts that just put that in their ads because someone told them to, or to scare away a certain "type" of client, are still not going to care. It's no different now than it was a year ago, or 5 years ago, or 10 years ago. The escorts who care still demand references.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]The whole reference thing is silly though because it's 2019 and anybody can change numbers and identities at will.[/QUOTE]It's not silly for those that care. And if you change your "identity" then you're not going to be able to get references. If I suddenly changed my identity to something else, then none of the escorts who know me as "Mr French" are going to be able to give me a reference as the new identity and those escorts and agencies that demand a reference aren't going to do business with me. For those that have my real name (and there are damned few of those) then I'm not going to be able to change my identity because changing one's real information in this day and age, in a post 9/11 era is damned near impossible unless you're in witness protection.
And when cops are the ones running the brothel or escort service, it's even harder to change your number or identity and get away with it. See [URL]https://nypost.com/2019/07/02/retired-nypd-detective-gets-4-to-12-years-for-running-brothel/[/URL] if you don't think that there are cops running brothels who are not trying to arrest the johns. These guys aren't the only ones. They're just the ones that have gotten caught.
[QUOTE=AllNaturalFeel;4401225]I always cringed how both providers and clients in this city act like it's so dangerous when it's the safest city to hobby. And it will continue to be the safest even if the whole internet shuts down.[/QUOTE]It might be the safest in the USA (doubtful) but it's not the safest in the world by a long shot. Even so, I still hear stories from both guys and escorts about being robbed.
Back in the 80's I got friendly with the madam of a brothel. I was out of work for about a year and I used to go over there after job hunting for the day and hang out. I'd play Monopoly and other games with the girls in the back room, between clients. I got to know the girls, the bouncers, and some of the "secret" things that most guys never see like the hidden panic buttons in the rooms. It may be a different world now than it was in the 80's but I'm willing to bet the rooms still have panic buttons, as well as all the other things I saw and know about. They might look different, and function different but I'll bet they are still there. And I'll bet the escorts who do outcalls still have the same kinds of back up and support that they did back then too. In fact, the last time I had an outcall to my hotel room (two years ago), I saw some of the same "tricks". I don't know if the girl knew that I knew but I saw them anyway. Since I had no plans to rob her I didn't care. And yet, even with all these backup systems, and checking references for "safety reasons" and all the other things these girls do to stay safe, there are still reports of them getting robbed, raped, beaten, arrested, etc.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Anyone who asked me for Sabrina # my bad just had so many people message me and only helped a couple out hopefully all went good tried to see her this weekend but the phone is not in service so as of now there's no way of contacting her and I don't even know where to look to get a new number I never saw an ad for her and out of pure luck someone on here hooked me up and I thank you for the # so anyone who is asking my bad but maybe someone will hook it up if she has a new number.
Search Jamie Valentine BBFS on switter. Anyone know if she is real? Usually when advertising certain actions upfront, they are not. But OMG if she is real. Wow LOL.
[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4404021]Search Jamie Valentine BBFS on switter. Anyone know if she is real? Usually when advertising certain actions upfront, they are not. But OMG if she is real. Wow LOL.[/QUOTE]I have my doubts. But, it doesn't matter. I'll never know. She asks for a 50% deposit for new clients and I NEVER give deposits, and you shouldn't either.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4399595]Actually, according to my cousin who is a researcher in microbiology, there are 3 different methods that have been found to cure HIV. One has been tested in mice, one has been tested in humans, and one has not yet been tested except in tubes. The two that have been tested both involve gene manipulation and both tests have been successful. However, a real cure is still decades away (at least 2), especially in the USA The human patients that were cured were in the you. K. Even if they manage to formulate a cure over there within the next few years, they would have to find a company willing to manufacture it and market it. Then, to bring it to the USA Means new human trials (the FDA won't accept trials done in other countries) and a USA Company to manufacture it. That process takes another 10 years. All in all, my cousin estimates that a real cure available to patients everywhere is around 2-3 decades away even if one of the current methods turns out to be viable and marketable and even longer before it's cheap enough for most people to be able to afford it.
I don't think I'll live long enough to find out what happens with the cure. But, my suspicion is it would be another decade or two beyond that, with no new diseases or mutations, before people feel relaxed enough and certain enough to "forget" what happened with HIV / AIDS and return to the way things were in the 1960's. Early 1980's where condoms would rarely be used or even mentioned. I certainly won't be around to see that.[/QUOTE]I can't comment about the microbiology but I am familiar with the progress of two, not three compounds that have been effective to treat humanized mice. I need to point out that your information pertaining to the FDA is so factually incorrect that it's practically nonsensical. I've spent the better part of my career on the commercialization side of pharmaceuticals which includes the regulatory part.
[QUOTE=Masoko23;4390671]I had the palmers sisters once. One in a life time experience. Still looking for mother / daughter duo.[/QUOTE]I've done that twice, both times in Las Vegas, two different sets of folks. They were not into each other, in either case (which was fine). In one case, the daughter was actually pregnant at the time.
No, neither group is still posting and I do not have contact info. Sorry.
[QUOTE=MrFrench;4404601]I have my doubts. But, it doesn't matter. I'll never know. She asks for a 50% deposit for new clients and I NEVER give deposits, and you shouldn't either.[/QUOTE]Oh. I didn't see that deposit requirement. Didn't get that far. I concur. Never ever do deposits. People are fools for doing that.
Does anyone PM me or let me know Dr. Liza number or website?
I can't find it. Please help me I been trying to see her for a while.
Any help would be really appreciated.
[QUOTE=PWnyc69;4405524]Oh. I didn't see that deposit requirement. Didn't get that far. I concur. Never ever do deposits. People are fools for doing that.[/QUOTE]I see a lot of new profiles on switter like Jamie's.
Phone and protonmail based address.
Reviews on the website, as opposed to links of review pages.
One thing in common, a 50% deposit but no requirement for reference checks.
A few of them even link to twitter accounts, but when I asked to DM them on twitter to confirm identity, I'm told not to.
All of it smells of scam.
[QUOTE=Mim100;4406621]Does anyone PM me or let me know Dr. Liza number or website?
I can't find it. Please help me I been trying to see her for a while.
Any help would be really appreciated.[/QUOTE]She's done-retired-finished-moved on. Rumors of her still around but no one has seen her in the last 6 months or so.
[QUOTE=NuttyLoon;4407716]I see a lot of new profiles on switter like Jamie's.
Phone and protonmail based address.
Reviews on the website, as opposed to links of review pages.
One thing in common, a 50% deposit but no requirement for reference checks.
A few of them even link to twitter accounts, but when I asked to DM them on twitter to confirm identity, I'm told not to.
All of it smells of scam.[/QUOTE]I agree that they are scams. A while back there was one for aedanrayne (which I think is the first profile to start this trend) that linked to her Twitter and snapchat.
However the ads posted on switter never matched the information that was put on snapchat. There was one incident where roughly an hour apart there was an ad for NYC on switter, while she put on snapchat she was states away visiting her mother in the hospital.
All of these profiles act in a similar manner and you'd come out better just reporting them than anything else.