"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;5865677]Very good advise. Unfortunately many underage girls have fake IDs. I think they tend to be non Virginia ones as VirginiaDMV has done a good job on making a secure license with the hologram on it and all. I have verified more than one, just ask them to put their finger over their name & address if they like. I'm interested in the pic & DOB.

As someone that has gone the SB route exclusively, I especially need to be careful as my pension for 18-22 y o coeds is my kryptonite. I do a good job of hiding my true identity, but they can almost never host, so I'm seeing them in a decent hotel. All they need is the date & room number & you are toast.

If Mom or Dad get wind that there precious Princess is sport ducking for dollars, she'll sing like JLO! I believe it's a crime if they send you nudes, not knowing they were underage isn't a defense. Be smart, think with the big head![/QUOTE]When I started out on SA a few years ago, I met up with a couple <20 yo's. I got I'd's and they seemed legit. Now, I realize what a risk that was, having learned since then how easy it is to get a very convincing I'd. Now I need to be comfortable they're 20+ at least. But not as much a problem now as it seems there are fewer <20 yo's to sift through now, vs. When I joined.

A couple years ago, I chatted and got a M&G with a girl who listed herself as 21, and she was hot of course, and her pics looked in general like an early 20-something girl. No sweat. I was stunned when she showed up at the coffee shop looking like a 16 year old waif! I told her right away she's too young and asked her age. She said she was 18 (turned the previous month) and reached in her bag to show her DL. NFW! I told her not to bother. We chatted for awhile, simply because I felt it would draw more suspicion if I immediately bolted up and ran screaming for the door. I went back and reviewed her pictures and sure enough it was her, just for some reason the pics made her look older. I don't care how old they are, they can show me 5 different IDs showing they're 21, if they look 16, it's a no-go for me. That's begging for unwanted attention.

I'll never figure out women / SBs. This pudgy 19 YO coed was very interested from our first contact. Mind of a 30 YO, very smart, in computer science. We FC a couple of weeks ago. Like a lot of fat girls, lacks confidence, sent me a nude in the shower to get me interested, responded well to positive statements and direction. Absolutely slobbered all over junior + the boys, extremely responsive, loved a spanking. Also, she got us the room and let me reimburse her. So no risk for me. Just show up and bang her. Afterward, I texted her what a great time we had, we should get together again soon, what else is she into, all of that. And crickets.

She claims I am the 4th man to nail her, perhaps second thoughts about being in the bowl.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5874134]I'll never figure out women / SBs. This pudgy 19 YO coed was very interested from our first contact. Mind of a 30 YO, very smart, in computer science. We FC a couple of weeks ago. Like a lot of fat girls, lacks confidence, sent me a nude in the shower to get me interested, responded well to positive statements and direction. Absolutely slobbered all over junior + the boys, extremely responsive, loved a spanking. Also, she got us the room and let me reimburse her. So no risk for me. Just show up and bang her. [b]Afterward, I texted her what a great time we had, we should get together again soon, what else is she into, all of that. And crickets.

She claims I am the 4th man to nail her, perhaps second thoughts about being in the bow[/b]l.[/QUOTE]It's the same as it is IRL relationships, and she just isn't all that into you. Your memory of what happened could be completely different from her perception. Or, maybe just got a better paying daddy that she is more attracted to. I'm assuming you paid her for some ass. So hooker transaction complete. If she's not ready for more, next!

Anyone have a working SA promo code? I have a $100 vanilla card to use up. Thanks.

Beware of her. She will take your money and run. She was on seeking but must have disabled her profile as Nerdybabe.

She is Nerdybabe323 on WYP.

Asking for a friend.

I am running into a lot of SA ladies who don't have a car or "it's in the shop" and will need an Uber ride to come to me.

Is there any way they can scam me if I indeed arrange for an Uber? The scammers are Always creative, so you never know.

Was just wondering what the experience here is?

[QUOTE=FTP1999;5876315]Asking for a friend.

I am running into a lot of SA ladies who don't have a car or "it's in the shop" and will need an Uber ride to come to me.

Is there any way they can scam me if I indeed arrange for an Uber? The scammers are Always creative, so you never know.

Was just wondering what the experience here is?[/QUOTE]I've ordered Ubers before with no issue. Obviously you need to stay cautious. Don't give out your phone number or any other info. Simply order the Uber to her address, watch the ride as it happens, and then enjoy. Anything outside of that is probably a red flag and you can just cancel the Uber ride.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;5876315]Asking for a friend.

I am running into a lot of SA ladies who don't have a car or "it's in the shop" and will need an Uber ride to come to me.

Is there any way they can scam me if I indeed arrange for an Uber? The scammers are Always creative, so you never know.

Was just wondering what the experience here is?[/QUOTE]The only "scam" I can think (or have heard) of is getting a free ride. The rider in the car has the final say as to where they go / get out and if they change the destination the only thing you can do is message the driver and cancel or dispute it afterwards. Also, the rider can ask the name of the person paying. IDK if there is a set policy on that but its a crapshoot depending on the driver.

[QUOTE=Tidad;5876401]The only "scam" I can think (or have heard) of is getting a free ride. The rider in the car has the final say as to where they go / get out and if they change the destination the only thing you can do is message the driver and cancel or dispute it afterwards. Also, the rider can ask the name of the person paying. IDK if there is a set policy on that but its a crapshoot depending on the driver.[/QUOTE]I was scammed out of a ride a couple of years ago. It was the first meet with a potential SB. She claimed the Uber never came, but the driver picked up someone and drove that person to a different destination. It cost me maybe $15. I declined to try to meet the woman again.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7722eca-b669-417a-b3aa-28b2db4af292[/URL]

Not just platonic, but online only she tells me.

And her last online SD gave her $800 a week, could I beat that.

"What happened to him that you would give that up?" I asked foolishly.

"Turns out her was married" she says, which I assume means his wife found out (in her mind) not that she has a moral issue with taking money for platonic arrangement.

So you want me to outbid someone who is no longer bidding. Like the fucking Marx Bros. In Cocoanuts.

[QUOTE=Tidad;5876401]The only "scam" I can think (or have heard) of is getting a free ride. The rider in the car has the final say as to where they go / get out and if they change the destination the only thing you can do is message the driver and cancel or dispute it afterwards. Also, the rider can ask the name of the person paying. IDK if there is a set policy on that but its a crapshoot depending on the driver.[/QUOTE]I don't think the rider can change destination without doing it in the app. Now maybe some drivers allow it but I believe that would be against company policy especially safety issue. With all alleged problems with drivers / riders getting robbed hurt or killed. I maybe wrong. But you can also message driver saying no changes in destination or else cancel ride.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5876612][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d7722eca-b669-417a-b3aa-28b2db4af292[/URL]

Not just platonic, but online only she tells me.

And her last online SD gave her $800 a week, could I beat that.

"What happened to him that you would give that up?" I asked foolishly.

"Turns out her was married" she says, which I assume means his wife found out (in her mind) not that she has a moral issue with taking money for platonic arrangement.

So you want me to outbid someone who is no longer bidding. Like the fucking Marx Bros. In Cocoanuts.[/QUOTE]Speaking of the Marx bros, this reminds of the old joke. "I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!" I crack myself up!

BAM.

[QUOTE=BamBam;5877874]Speaking of the Marx bros, this reminds of the old joke..[/QUOTE]Groucho to Mrs. Teasdale "Will you marry me? Did he leave you any money? Answer the second question first."

I don't want a woman with good taste, I want a woman who tastes good.

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5878003]Groucho to Mrs. Teasdale "Will you marry me? Did he leave you any money? Answer the second question first."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BamBam;5867587]

As for checking into a hotel with a fake ID, in my experience, the hotel wants both an ID and a credit card and they want them to match. You can get a fake ID and you can get a stolen credit card but it is a pretty stiff challenge to get both in the same name - and with your picture on the ID. Just my thoughts.

BAM.[/QUOTE]TLDR: Call around and you can find cash hotels that aren't dumps.

I've posted on this before, but requiring CC is true of most hotels, but if you look hard enough, you can get around this. I have no choice but to to so. As you infer, paying cash also opens up the door for using a fake I'd (if that's your opsec) and together obliterates two major paths of discovery.

All M6's and many RR Inns take cash and don't require any CC on file for deposit. That's a start. Otherwise, call around to other hotels to find out policies for cash payment and more importantly, deposit. Some will say they take cash for room but if you dig further they need a CC on file for damage deposit that likely won't be charged if you don't trash the room. These are still no go for me. Not giving any hotel my CC whether they are going to charge it or not. The risk there is some knucklehead employee mistakenly charging my CC that I then have to tap dance to explain. And I'm too old to tap dance LOL.

Other mid level hotels take cash payment and WILL accept cash for deposit. This is the sweet spot. Like George Jefferson, you're now movin on up from the M6's and RRIs. These are places like Super 8, Comfort Inns, Days Inns, Best Westerns, LaQuinta. You need to call around at these. IME there's about a 20% chance at least one of these will take cash for room AND deposit and you're good to go. If the person answering the phone has an Indian accent, it's a very good sign they will accept cash for room and deposit LOL. The drawback is you need to check out in person, at the front desk, to get your cash deposit back. And that can be awkward if you're only there a couple hours. And you're stuck lurking around the front desk for 10-15 minutes while they check the room out. It is what it is.

Most the time, I aim for the mid level Days Inns etc, I'm not really that concerned with impressing the SBs that much, projecting luxury is not my schtick, and I've found most don't mind the lower end places either, as long as it's clean and feels safe.

YMMV as likely depends on the region, too. Rural seems easier, urban is tougher. Suburbs is hit or miss. Your ability to do this also may depend on the SBs you target. If you favor the hot sorority Suzies or other high maintenance / high (imagined) status types, you may find dragging her to a Days Inn may send her back to SA to find another Daddy quickly LOL. If you like these type SBs, then you're stuck with primo level hotels and they always need a CC. But I don't feel sorry for you because you're likely banging SBs a level or two above me.

Having to pay cash at humdrum hotels may cost me the most desirable SBs but I'm perfectly happy with GNDs and younger MILFs, 6-8's anyways so no big deal.