NoVA SugarBabies

[QUOTE=Dimples572;5254675]Back to back days this weekend these two both completely flaked on me.

MandiQuin.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1a03b294-bc19-48b8-a30a-b03e76ae1a51[/URL]

Met her earlier in the week. Had a great time, we really hit it off, or so I thought. Texted for the next few days about how we couldn't wait to see each other again. Made plans to hang out Friday evening around 7:00. I get a text around 6:30 that she'll be running late, she says about an hour late. Then about 45 minutes later she's still not on her way so I suggest maybe Sat night might work better? At first she says no, then a bit later she agrees and we make plans to meet sat at 5:00 at my place Sat evening. Long story short throughout the day I sent her 4-5 texts never hear a word. 5:00 comes and goes. Finally around 7:30 I get a text from her that she's sooo sorry and thank something totally unexpected came up and she wished she had a chance before now to tell me before then. Riiiiight. So I ask her you couldn't take 30 seconds to send a text to let me know something came up? Her response was "I guess not". I have zero tolerance for people with no respect or consideration for other people. Regardless of what type of relationship you are in, even if it's a relationship with a friend or co-worker if you don't have mutual respect for one another the relationship will never be successful. So that was the end of her.[/QUOTE]Did you just do a meet and greet with her or did you seal the deal? I've been chatting with her as well, interestingly she claims to have never met anyone from SA. LOL.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;5254526]She's only looking for online BTW.[/QUOTE]Bare photos are gone, maybe moved to private ones.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;5254675]Back to back days this weekend she completely flaked on me.

Sweetaffair.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a1a32ac-8109-421f-823f-5f84efe55ddc[/URL]

I've been texting with this one off and on for about 3 weeks, never could line things up. She's in the Rockville area, I'm on NoVa and apparently she "doesn't drive" (it's amazing how many of these chicks say that. You'd think we lived in NYC where nobody has a car, yet everyone I know in my personal life that lives in tht DMV has a car because you pretty much have to if you don't live in DC proper. But whatever) so we've been going back and forth because she wants me to come to Md and rent a room and I keep refusing because I'd rather just Uber her to my place in NoVa. A week or so ago she finally was cool with me getting an Uber to bring her my place, then I asked how long she could hang out and she said only two hours. We agreed to 400 ppm and I told her that wasn't long enough and not worth all the trouble / cost. So we kept negotiating for the next few days, I asked for how much for 4 hrs and she wanted double, I said fuck that. So she said the most she'd do was 2. 5 hrs. So Sunday morning I said 2. 5 hrs and I'll Uber you to me. She countered with 3 hrs if I'd get a hotel room in Rockville. So I agreed to that, she said she'd be available at 2:00. So I booked the room and said, sent her the address and said I'll see you then. About a half hour later she texted and said she didn't realize what time it was that 6:30 would give her more time to get ready for me. I said WTF?? 6:30? Told her that was too late and the latest I could do was 4. She agrees. I drive to Rockville, check in. 4:00 comes and goes and nothing. I'm blowing up her phone wondering where she is. Finally around 4:30 I get a text that she's almost ready and she'll be there at 5:30. Long story short never heard a peep out of her the rest of the day / night. Total waste of a day and 100 bucks on a room. And once again no consideration to let me know what's up so fuck her too.[/QUOTE]I never pay for a room until I have the girl in my car with me, ie. I pick her up, or I see her in person in the hotel parking lot. I will book a room that allows cancellations without losing a deposit, there are some that allow you cancel day of until 6 pm without penalty. I always check the price of the room at the hotel site and also use [URL]Hotel.com[/URL] or [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. I find that [URL]Booking.com[/URL] consistently gives me the best prices for the same type of room in the same exact hotel on the same day / time. With [URL]Booking.com[/URL], it takes maybe 5-10 minutes from the time you make the booking on you smartphone app until the reservation appears on the hotel check-in counter. This is one of my cardinal rules even for SBs or UTRs I've known for years as I've had even the 'reliable' one flake on me from time to time. Shit happens and I'm not going to risk my money on someone else's reliability. And as you said about previous girl, it takes literally like 10 seconds to send a text that she can't make it an hour before you meet, so that is no f*cking excuse to leave someone hanging.

Actually, I do not even leave for the pick-up unless I hear from the girl 30-60 minutes before pickup. I happened to me this weekend with a SB I'd seen before. We were texting all day about getting together. 60 minutes out, radio-silence, I refused to drive out there and waste my time. Good thing because I never hear from her that day. Then after she says she fell asleep which is BS since I knew she was working until we met. So I let her have it about sending a text. Yesterday, she was much better about texting to cancel when she couldn't make it.

[QUOTE=FogHorn1;5254933]Did you just do a meet and greet with her or did you seal the deal? I've been chatting with her as well, interestingly she claims to have never met anyone from SA. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL don't believe a word she says, or any of these chicks for that matter. Her personal life is a trainwreck, she's a mess. Yes I sealed the deal, filled her up 3 times the first time we met.

Would you mind sharing some local NOVA / DC area hotels that allow same day cancellation till 6 pm?

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5254955]I never pay for a room until I have the girl in my car with me, ie. I pick her up, or I see her in person in the hotel parking lot. I will book a room that allows cancellations without losing a deposit, there are some that allow you cancel day of until 6 pm without penalty. I always check the price of the room at the hotel site and also use [URL]Hotel.com[/URL] or [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. I find that [URL]Booking.com[/URL] consistently gives me the best prices for the same type of room in the same exact hotel on the same day / time. With [URL]Booking.com[/URL], it takes maybe 5-10 minutes from the time you make the booking on you smartphone app until the reservation appears on the hotel check-in counter. This is one of my cardinal rules even for SBs or UTRs I've known for years as I've had even the 'reliable' one flake on me from time to time. Shit happens and I'm not going to risk my money on someone else's reliability. And as you said about previous girl, it takes literally like 10 seconds to send a text that she can't make it an hour before you meet, so that is no f*cking excuse to leave someone hanging.

Actually, I do not even leave for the pick-up unless I hear from the girl 30-60 minutes before pickup. I happened to me this weekend with a SB I'd seen before. We were texting all day about getting together. 60 minutes out, radio-silence, I refused to drive out there and waste my time. Good thing because I never hear from her that day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5254955]I never pay for a room until I have the girl in my car with me, ie. I pick her up, or I see her in person in the hotel parking lot. I will book a room that allows cancellations without losing a deposit, there are some that allow you cancel day of until 6 pm without penalty. I always check the price of the room at the hotel site and also use [URL]Hotel.com[/URL] or [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. I find that [URL]Booking.com[/URL] consistently gives me the best prices for the same type of room in the same exact hotel on the same day / time. With [URL]Booking.com[/URL], it takes maybe 5-10 minutes from the time you make the booking on you smartphone app until the reservation appears on the hotel check-in counter. This is one of my cardinal rules even for SBs or UTRs I've known for years as I've had even the 'reliable' one flake on me from time to time. Shit happens and I'm not going to risk my money on someone else's reliability. And as you said about previous girl, it takes literally like 10 seconds to send a text that she can't make it an hour before you meet, so that is no f*cking excuse to leave someone hanging.

Actually, I do not even leave for the pick-up unless I hear from the girl 30-60 minutes before pickup. I happened to me this weekend with a SB I'd seen before. We were texting all day about getting together. 60 minutes out, radio-silence, I refused to drive out there and waste my time. Good thing because I never hear from her that day. Then after she says she fell asleep which is BS since I knew she was working until we met. So I let her have it about sending a text. Yesterday, she was much better about texting to cancel when she couldn't make it.[/QUOTE]Hotel Tonight is another good app for last-minute bookings. It's quick and easy, and I've always found good options at reasonable prices at the last minute. Sometimes even exceptional four star options. I'd never pre-book on a first meet. Just no need to, and the cost of one no-show outweighs any benefit you get from pre-booking.

I also learned to send a confirmation text in the morning of a first meetup. If no response, and I'm really interested, I'll send a second text with a politely worded, but specific deadline (eg, 2 pm) to hear her response. After that, I drop it entirely and delete her from my memory. No matter how incredible she seems. There's no point in getting belligerent about it. Dealing with fakes and flakes is part of the experience of the bowl. And some of the real gems I've found were newbies and legitimately skittish about their initial meeting. Without a bit of persistence and some willingness to be fooled, I probably would've never met them.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5254604]They enjoy sex and if they can make a little on the side which makes their lives easier / better, way not. More power to them.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the kind of SB I look for. She can be a smoke show or not, but really just a kindred spirit. I've had similar experiences with the few successes I've had. The best one just wanted to get out of the house and give head once in a while, nothing asked. I fucked it up by being honest about another SB in my rotation. Perhaps intentionally, perhaps not.

Question, with your successes, was there a common thread between them all? Like some kind of verbiage in their profile, or age range, life situation, or just luck of the draw? I feel like I reach out to about 100 profiles before I get any promising hits.

[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;5255337]Would you mind sharing some local NOVA / DC area hotels that allow same day cancellation till 6 pm?[/QUOTE]Just go to [URL]Hotels.com[/URL], [URL]Booking.com[/URL] or [URL]Hoteltonight.com[/URL] as someone else suggested, right when you are selecting you room, it will state the terms or click on the link to see the terms. It various from town to town, even same hotel in same town will have variability on cancellation charges depending on how fully booked they are that evening.

[QUOTE=JamesBlond007;5255627]This is exactly the kind of SB I look for. She can be a smoke show or not, but really just a kindred spirit. I've had similar experiences with the few successes I've had. The best one just wanted to get out of the house and give head once in a while, nothing asked. I fucked it up by being honest about another SB in my rotation. Perhaps intentionally, perhaps not.

Question, with your successes, was there a common thread between them all? Like some kind of verbiage in their profile, or age range, life situation, or just luck of the draw? I feel like I reach out to about 100 profiles before I get any promising hits.[/QUOTE]If you can't be honest with your SB-mistress, who can you be honest with? You may have fucked it up by being honest but it was meant to be and you are better off.

I did write a bit about the two kinds of SBs on this thread if you search back the last few weeks. There are scammers (more than half of profiles), girls (who are just out for the money, some will put out with the right amount of money) and women (many are for the money but the rare few don't even need it, if they like you, you f*ck for free). The trick is to find the latter kind. After a while, you can get good at weeding out the scammers. Then it's a numbers game and a bit of luck. Please know I have sent out more than a few hundred 'Hi! How are you doing? Would you like to chat? Blah, blah, blahs'. It takes work, just like trying to find a good SW, but this way you are not wasting gas driving around nasty neighborhoods, you are doing this from the comfort of your home, you only head out when you are sure you have a hit, and you do get a much better quality of woman than a SW. I also did get scammed for $100 by that Thieving Wh*re Alexisprincess1992 but am actually in the midst of Wild Goose Chase II right now, will post an update shortly.

So here's an update, after a lot of apologizing and bumping up the M&G to $700, she reached out to set up a meet this evening at 6 pm. At 5:30 pm, I send the usual, 'I'm on my way'. At 6:15 pm, she asks where I am and I say 'Stuck in 495 traffic', coincidentally there was a horrible accident and traffic jam on 495 right by the Dulles Toll Rd so was able to send her a screenshot of Google Maps showing the traffic jam. I keep going back and forth with her until 7 pm at which point I say, 'I'm here, where are you? We go back and forth until 7:15 pm but she get wise pretty quick and radio-silence. So between the two wild goose-chases, I would say I managed to get her for 2. 5 hours of time.

So please, if any of you run into her, you know what she looks like (at least the photos she sends) and her MO, pick up where I left off and string her along. These are the cell numbers she uses: 571-XXX-5510 and most recently 571-XXX-7728.

New profile for her. LexiSexy1992. I'm going to take a shot and the wild goose chase. My way of giving back to the community LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4f4ce774-c973-4545-b7a2-abd1008418ae[/URL]

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5256008]So here's an update, after a lot of apologizing and bumping up the M&G to $700, she reached out to set up a meet this evening at 6 pm. At 5:30 pm, I send the usual, 'I'm on my way'. At 6:15 pm, she asks where I am and I say 'Stuck in 495 traffic', coincidentally there was a horrible accident and traffic jam on 495 right by the Dulles Toll Rd so was able to send her a screenshot of Google Maps showing the traffic jam. I keep going back and forth with her until 7 pm at which point I say, 'I'm here, where are you? We go back and forth until 7:15 pm but she get wise pretty quick and radio-silence. So between the two wild goose-chases, I would say I managed to get her for 2. 5 hours of time.

So please, if any of you run into her, you know what she looks like (at least the photos she sends) and her MO, pick up where I left off and string her along. These are the cell numbers she uses: 571-XXX-5510 and most recently 571-XXX-7728.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5256008]So here's an update, after a lot of apologizing and bumping up the M&G to $700, she reached out to set up a meet this evening at 6 pm. At 5:30 pm, I send the usual, 'I'm on my way'. At 6:15 pm, she asks where I am and I say 'Stuck in 495 traffic', coincidentally there was a horrible accident and traffic jam on 495 right by the Dulles Toll Rd so was able to send her a screenshot of Google Maps showing the traffic jam. I keep going back and forth with her until 7 pm at which point I say, 'I'm here, where are you? We go back and forth until 7:15 pm but she get wise pretty quick and radio-silence. So between the two wild goose-chases, I would say I managed to get her for 2. 5 hours of time.

So please, if any of you run into her, you know what she looks like (at least the photos she sends) and her MO, pick up where I left off and string her along. These are the cell numbers she uses: 571-XXX-5510 and most recently 571-XXX-7728.[/QUOTE]You really are doing the Lord's work here. I'll bet you could use a different phone number and pull off WGIII and even more sequels. Just say "hey, it's fun-time daddy from the site. How are you? I doubt they're even bothering to cross-check against an actual profile. Keep having fun with it.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;5256237]New profile for her. LexiSexy1992. I'm going to take a shot and the wild goose chase. My way of giving back to the community LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4f4ce774-c973-4545-b7a2-abd1008418ae[/URL][/QUOTE]Good job buddy!

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5255947]Just go to [URL]Hotels.com[/URL], [URL]Booking.com[/URL] or [URL]Hoteltonight.com[/URL] as someone else suggested, right when you are selecting you room, it will state the terms or click on the link to see the terms. It various from town to town, even same hotel in same town will have variability on cancellation charges depending on how fully booked they are that evening.[/QUOTE]Try dayuse.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;5256237]New profile for her. LexiSexy1992. I'm going to take a shot and the wild goose chase. My way of giving back to the community LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4f4ce774-c973-4545-b7a2-abd1008418ae[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd love an update once you had a shot at her LOL.

Chatted with this one briefly until she uses the "I've been scammed before, so I require a deposit to know you are real". Report and Block.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5256415]I'd love an update once you had a shot at her LOL.[/QUOTE]Certainly. I messaged her last night and no response yet.

Any intel on this one?

Looks TGTBT but she wants to meet.

She definitely doesn't look 21 so I would say fake as much as her boobs are.

[QUOTE=AssmanToYou;5256937]Any intel on this one?

Looks TGTBT but she wants to meet.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8fd4045-d980-420a-ad05-5e4c1a92904d.[/URL]

Anyone been with this girl? Appreciate any details. You can PM me if you want.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;5255292]LOL don't believe a word she says, or any of these chicks for that matter. Her personal life is a trainwreck, she's a mess. Yes I sealed the deal, filled her up 3 times the first time we met.[/QUOTE]Good to know. She's a bit weird via text anyway. Nice body on her though.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5255947]Just go to [URL]Hotels.com[/URL], [URL]Booking.com[/URL] or [URL]Hoteltonight.com[/URL] as someone else suggested, right when you are selecting you room, it will state the terms or click on the link to see the terms. It various from town to town, even same hotel in same town will have variability on cancellation charges depending on how fully booked they are that evening.[/QUOTE]In addition to the good advice others have posted recently about this, one approach I've taken on a hotel date with a new SB, where I hadn't done a prior meet-and-greet (bc she was pretty far away), was to agree on the hotel but not reserve the room until we'd literally met in the parking lot outside. That way no risk of a wasted hotel fee.

Hooked up with this one a few weeks ago. Beautiful, tall girl. Not quite as pretty as her pics and has a beer gut on her that you don't see coming until you get her naked, which was a bit shocking. Sucks a mean dick but she will not do BBFS no matter how much you try to convince her, so that part sucks. Got my nut titty fucking her and she left shortly after. She's a typical 21 yr old, kinda annoying personality. Damage was 350 plus Uber, will not repeat.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/11a39a08-f9bd-4382-8c58-eb9ef15eaeea[/URL]

[QUOTE=AssmanToYou;5256937]Any intel on this one?

Looks TGTBT but she wants to meet.[/QUOTE]Here's her Instagram. This chicks body is absurd.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/p/CJtk2A5pGbQ/?igshid=1lpxg8w55dqq2[/URL]

What caught my eye on her profile it shows her with 54 messages and 248 interests. Very believable for a woman that looks like her. I have always heard that good looking woman get a ton of messages, which is of course believable and why they often don't respond to us. Another reason you have to have a very interesting / creative message other than "hey gorgeous" when you reach out to these hot SB's. I am sure she is bombarded on a daily basis. Another reason to consider more average looking woman when hunting on the site. I have met and fornicated with several who had mediocre pics on the site and were better looking in person. And of course that can go the other way as well, as we all know!

[QUOTE=AssmanToYou;5256937]Any intel on this one?

Looks TGTBT but she wants to meet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AssmanToYou;5256937]Any intel on this one?

Looks TGTBT but she wants to meet.[/QUOTE]Check her "Recent" login. Says she's in Mauritius. She's clearly scamming you, bro.

Isn't that number of messages and interests I see here on the guys profile not the girls? Is there anyway to know how many unread massages on the girls profile I contact?

Play Safe,

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=Reman3289;5257580]What caught my eye on her profile it shows her with 54 messages and 248 interests. Very believable for a woman that looks like her. I have always heard that good looking woman get a ton of messages, which is of course believable and why they often don't respond to us. Another reason you have to have a very interesting / creative message other than "hey gorgeous" when you reach out to these hot SB's. I am sure she is bombarded on a daily basis. Another reason to consider more average looking woman when hunting on the site. I have met and fornicated with several who had mediocre pics on the site and were better looking in person. And of course that can go the other way as well, as we all know![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Reman3289;5257580]What caught my eye on her profile it shows her with 54 messages and 248 interests[/QUOTE]Where are you seeing that on her profile? You must have some type of extra level type access that I don't. LOL.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;5256008]So here's an update, after a lot of apologizing and bumping up the M&G to $700, she reached out to set up a meet this evening at 6 pm. At 5:30 pm, I send the usual, 'I'm on my way'. At 6:15 pm, she asks where I am and I say 'Stuck in 495 traffic', coincidentally there was a horrible accident and traffic jam on 495 right by the Dulles Toll Rd so was able to send her a screenshot of Google Maps showing the traffic jam. I keep going back and forth with her until 7 pm at which point I say, 'I'm here, where are you? We go back and forth until 7:15 pm but she get wise pretty quick and radio-silence. So between the two wild goose-chases, I would say I managed to get her for 2. 5 hours of time.

So please, if any of you run into her, you know what she looks like (at least the photos she sends) and her MO, pick up where I left off and string her along. These are the cell numbers she uses: 571-XXX-5510 and most recently 571-XXX-7728.[/QUOTE]It was my turn today. Set up a meeting at 5 pm at a Bar Louie "right near my house. " Got "caught in traffic" and wasn't going to get there until 5:20/5:30. She told me to text when I got there and she'd come over to the bar. So, I texted her, but don't think she actually went. Was able to string her along until about 5:45. The whole time, I was on a M&G that went really well. So, it was time well spent!

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5257925]It was my turn today. Set up a meeting at 5 pm at a Bar Louie "right near my house. " Got "caught in traffic" and wasn't going to get there until 5:20/5:30. She told me to text when I got there and she'd come over to the bar. So, I texted her, but don't think she actually went. Was able to string her along until about 5:45. The whole time, I was on a M&G that went really well. So, it was time well spent![/QUOTE]I think she's actually using another profile now. Pretty sure this is her as well.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6850d5e9-29d6-45a4-b0e1-530c989ff47f[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7b2ab42a-dee9-4bf4-9f3e-1a67c069838e[/URL]

Google her photo and you know it's a fake pic.

She favorited me. Messaged her and she asked if I want to meet. Gave her my digits to text but got lackluster response from her. Then out of the blue I got a text from a unknown number saying she is so and so from SA and we had talked etc. I got the feeling that this unknown person has to do with girlover1. Anyway, I told this unknown person and I don't know her and I'm not interested. Not sure what the MO is but I don't intend to waste my time to find out.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;5257981]I think she's actually using another profile now. Pretty sure this is her as well.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6850d5e9-29d6-45a4-b0e1-530c989ff47f[/URL][/QUOTE]Don't think so. That is not her MO. She is also pretty consistent with using the same pics. That profile has been around since 2017 and if it was her, would have been long ago flagged.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;5257981]I think she's actually using another profile now. Pretty sure this is her as well.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6850d5e9-29d6-45a4-b0e1-530c989ff47f[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely not her. That gals been reviewed several times on here.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5257925]It was my turn today. Set up a meeting at 5 pm at a Bar Louie "right near my house. " Got "caught in traffic" and wasn't going to get there until 5:20/5:30. She told me to text when I got there and she'd come over to the bar. So, I texted her, but don't think she actually went. Was able to string her along until about 5:45. The whole time, I was on a M&G that went really well. So, it was time well spent![/QUOTE]Excellent, appreciate the effort.

[QUOTE=Futuopedico;5258095]Don't think so. That is not her MO. She is also pretty consistent with using the same pics. That profile has been around since 2017 and if it was her, would have been long ago flagged.[/QUOTE]You won't know until she sends you to text on her cell and her cell numbers line up as I reported or she asks you to meet at the address I reported.

Anyone have the 411 on Aspen? She messaged me the other day and seems really interested in me. Feels UTR pro. DTF and nothing else. $$$ppm. BBFS with papers.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0637eace-b15f-47a5-9ef5-d546388bb64d[/URL]

Yes I was looking at the wrong thing.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;5257745]Isn't that number of messages and interests I see here on the guys profile not the girls? Is there anyway to know how many unread massages on the girls profile I contact?

Play Safe,

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]

Wants $400 ppm with no intimacy LMAO!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1aaab856-3b3a-4380-b8d0-02be60442a26[/URL]

[QUOTE=MjThrill42;5259076]Anyone have the 411 on Aspen? She messaged me the other day and seems really interested in me. Feels UTR pro. DTF and nothing else. $$$ppm. BBFS with papers.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0637eace-b15f-47a5-9ef5-d546388bb64d[/URL][/QUOTE]She has been reviewed before. Or I know at least few folks from the forum have seen her.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4184b090-26a3-415d-837f-dce80c6e23ef[/URL]

I enjoyed Candice recently, she is a true 18 yo high school senior and very eager but inexperienced (said she has only been with one other guy, I doubt that but she is definitely green.) She had no clue what she was doing in bed but was extremely horny. Basically jumped me. She came to my hotel and I checked her I'd, before doing anything. We went several rounds, all bareback with me finishing on her at her request. What a treat she is.