Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Kinkaid69;5818010]I'm interested to here more about your techniques here. Do you mind sharing some tips?[/QUOTE]Interested also. Since I use SA, interested in other channels. On SA, I've mostly filtered out the pros.

Not against pros. Pros just not my usual target of 'striving single mom who wants some no-drama / non-broke-boyfriend / adult fun' in my SA search, some upside surprises when I find pros.

I filter the usual crap:

1. real vs offshore / scam? Meet & greet. Fakes never can meet.

2. pro? Meet & greet. Pro wants $ for meet & greet. Some pros are really, really good long term arrangements (my limited experience only. Pre Seattle Area).

3. lying about their real situation? Let's cook at your place, talk, then adult fun. Suddenly, 'has family', 'uhhh. Has boyfriend / girlfriend, existing partner'. The 'partner' always seems to care. Surprise! I like to know what the drama might become if long term arrangement prospect.

YMMV. I usually look for one interesting personal for arrangement, not in a hurry. That's why I'm curious about your 'social media'.

[QUOTE=BellyThunder;5819508]Looking for reviews and experience what is everyone's go to Prepaid cc for discreet membership to SA?[/QUOTE]I use a burner phone always paid with cash. Use Seeking app on Android. You can pay your Seeking subscription through Google Play store. Buy Google Play gift cards at the grocery store with cash and load on your account.

[QUOTE=InFrequently;5795797]Anyone else having problems signing in to SA this afternoon?[/QUOTE]I thought I'd follow up with what I learned from my issue a couple weeks ago.

If I start by following a link from this site to a profile, any subsequent tries to log in fail until I clear cookies.

If I sign in first, before following any links, that works. Then I can follow links even.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5793473]She is on just about every SB sites there is. Has never responded to me.[/QUOTE]I've hooked up with her before. Cheap date, very very tight. Went from super cheap to 500+. She nice, but someone overinflated her ego, so I'd skip.

Sp2022 v33.

This account started as fromrussiawithlove and is now fromukrainewithlove.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/be55f141-e2dd-43eb-9a03-b8ff0c50342c[/URL]

BTW, anything sexual is 900+.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5826052]This account started as fromrussiawithlove and is now fromukrainewithlove.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/be55f141-e2dd-43eb-9a03-b8ff0c50342c[/URL]

BTW, anything sexual is 900+.[/QUOTE]She is probably Russian. She is trying to be politically correct and hide who she is. For 900+ she can continue to dream on.

Hi why'all. I just signed up to SA and have a potential meet and greet this weekend. I'm clueless on what should be discussed arrangement wise in text before meeting and what to discuss in person. I'm hoping to find something ppm where she's down for BBFS. Not sure how to bring it up without not treating them like a human being.

Any links to specific posts I should read? Not sure if there's a better way to research this board aside from going page by page.

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5827350]Hi why'all. I just signed up to SA and have a potential meet and greet this weekend. I'm clueless on what should be discussed arrangement wise in text before meeting and what to discuss in person. I'm hoping to find something ppm where she's down for BBFS. Not sure how to bring it up without not treating them like a human being.

Any links to specific posts I should read? Not sure if there's a better way to research this board aside from going page by page.[/QUOTE]I would be polite and ask outright. Talking openly about what you expect should not be considered as you are treating them like they are not human. Remember she will have zero issues telling you what she expects in terms of payment for the meet. No need to be rude, in fact be extremely polite and tell her it is a deep seeded need and fantasy to come very very deep inside her. Finally I am not sure this board has a post that teaches you how to ask a woman for sex. Most just have their own style of doing it. Sometimes it works sometimes the woman tells you she is not interested. All women on SA are there for making money and they know what is expected in return. If she tells you otherwise. She is either lying or is on the wrong board.

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5827350]Hi why'all. I just signed up to SA and have a potential meet and greet this weekend. I'm clueless on what should be discussed arrangement wise in text before meeting and what to discuss in person. I'm hoping to find something ppm where she's down for BBFS. Not sure how to bring it up without not treating them like a human being.

Any links to specific posts I should read? Not sure if there's a better way to research this board aside from going page by page.[/QUOTE]I like discuss allowance expectations via text before a meet and greet, no sense wasting time if they have unrealistic expectations. I usually ask what they enjoy while spending intimate time, see if they mention anything about condom use, if they don't mention covers then I mention something about being tested and having had a vasectomy. That usually gets the point across without being crass.

My personal experience is that when you're dealing with ordinary women and not pros the condom thing isn't a big issue. I haven't racked up huge numbers but I've had sex with 15 women off Seeking and only one insisted on condoms. A couple I offered to put one on. But most we just got down to business and it never came up. With some I mentioned testing and they looked at me like I was a weirdo.

[QUOTE=BigSubwoofer;5827350]Hi why'all. I just signed up to SA and have a potential meet and greet this weekend. I'm clueless on what should be discussed arrangement wise in text before meeting and what to discuss in person. I'm hoping to find something ppm where she's down for BBFS. Not sure how to bring it up without not treating them like a human being.

Any links to specific posts I should read? Not sure if there's a better way to research this board aside from going page by page.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BugManLet;5827680]My personal experience is that when you're dealing with ordinary women and not pros the condom thing isn't a big issue. I haven't racked up huge numbers but I've had sex with 15 women off Seeking and only one insisted on condoms. A couple I offered to put one on. But most we just got down to business and it never came up. With some I mentioned testing and they looked at me like I was a weirdo.[/QUOTE]Yup +1 on that. One thing I do want to call out SA is not ordinary women. It may have been 4 or 5 years ago. Today SA is mostly semi pro women, who clearly want money for sex but will not necessarily go to a board and post pics and ads for the service. I see these women as one step away from becoming part of the trade. They are one sickness (large medical bills), job loss or addiction (shopping, gambling, meds) away from entering the "life". I understand that there are still complete civilians to be found, but those are fewer today. Civilians go to Match dot com. Semi pros go to SA. It is as simple as that.

[QUOTE=BugManLet;5827680]My personal experience is that when you're dealing with ordinary women and not pros the condom thing isn't a big issue. I haven't racked up huge numbers but I've had sex with 15 women off Seeking and only one insisted on condoms. A couple I offered to put one on. But most we just got down to business and it never came up. With some I mentioned testing and they looked at me like I was a weirdo.[/QUOTE]Yeah, generally that's what I've seen too.

There is a weird generational split, in that the ladies over about thirty are more likely to want you to wear a rubber. If they are younger than that they probably have no memory of the HIV scares in the late eighties and early nineties.

I've had similar experience, zero expectations to use a condom. However, many of them expect you to pull out unless CIP is specifically requested. Surprisingly few of them are on birth control.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5828275]
There is a weird generational split, in that the ladies over about thirty are more likely to want you to wear a rubber. If they are younger than that they probably have no memory of the HIV scares in the late eighties and early nineties.[/QUOTE]

I don't have a link since she blocked me. I decided not to take advantage of her offer of a platonic meet and greet for $400. She said she normally does $500. Not with me, you don't.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59c6414b-93f9-4c0c-ab7a-100e07c259c2[/URL]

GPS. Received 600 for FS, 800 bb in previous arrangements.

Emphasis on former.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2f95500a-6525-4c4f-a6df-b20b572c7edd[/URL]

Chatted with this and when we discussed allowance I suggested $300-$400, she didn't counter, just said that her expectation was considerably higher.

Any Intel on MickiRae [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/17c65281-8c1f-4a34-8f5a-042d20003f2d[/URL].

Is she still around? Would trade info on other SBs I've had success with if anyone can help connect me.

AR.

[QUOTE=Anonymous420;5807089]Shhhhh! Too many guys on SA do not know these simple things which greatly increases my success rate.[/QUOTE]Lmao dude, how don't people know how to just be normal. Imagine wanting to meet these girls, ***** acting like they don't know what goes on in these sites, and instead of talking to her like a normal person, you instantly start to grope her. If a guy saw the same in a girl it would be an instant red flag. Basic etiquette goes a long way. Had worked for me still works for me. Not being fat and in fairly good shape also helps LOL.

[QUOTE=Arfq84;5829228]Any Intel on MickiRae [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/17c65281-8c1f-4a34-8f5a-042d20003f2d[/URL].

Is she still around? Would trade info on other SBs I've had success with if anyone can help connect me..[/QUOTE]She is a fun, older MILF that is DTF, very reasonable to. Be warned if you have any skill in the sack she will soak your bed.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5728274]Had this one hit me up on secret benefits, seemed eager to meet but wants 900-1000 ppm, dropped the conversation there so I don't know what's on the menu.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profilev3/9a5875515ce0ad97[/URL][/QUOTE]This one msged me as well. Quoted 800 to 1000 PPM with no elaboration on menu. Seems way to high but to each their own.

Agreed, this may change however if the economy goes South as many are predicting. Wasn't involved in it at the time, but I hear SA was a goldmine for "civs" circa 2012.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5828079]Yup +1 on that. One thing I do want to call out SA is not ordinary women. It may have been 4 or 5 years ago. Today SA is mostly semi pro women, who clearly want money for sex but will not necessarily go to a board and post pics and ads for the service. I see these women as one step away from becoming part of the trade. They are one sickness (large medical bills), job loss or addiction (shopping, gambling, meds) away from entering the "life". I understand that there are still complete civilians to be found, but those are fewer today. Civilians go to Match dot com. Semi pros go to SA. It is as simple as that.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the advice earlier. I'm autistic so any socialization is awkward for me that's why my questions will be dumb.

Anyways for my meet and greet, we made out, then asked her to come over. She said if she came it'd turn it into an arrangement where she asked for 3-400. But got her to settle for 250 ppm 1-2 x a month but her boundaries were protection all the time so I dipped LOL. Is there any other things that's important to settle on for arrangements people usually ask for that I'm not thinking or considering?

All,

Anyone hook up with this gal? She is quick to move forward on our arrangements?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c677ac98-73c2-4cf8-b8d5-d3b03b427b8e[/URL]

This one wants $2 k per meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fd21b638-7bd9-435c-91a8-ff2aba131633[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f38d4cb0-0648-47a0-8d33-31748a3976ef[/URL]

Any intel? Wants to move kind of fast and has semi-pro vibes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/541dc666-8dfb-44d9-a3fa-24df9a5d3614[/URL]

She reached out and instantly moved to text. I suspect fake profile. Needs a 'few' public dates to check chemistry and asks for 350 for meet and greet date and 500 for any subsequent ones. Yes including the few public dates. Lmao!!

She didn't phish for any personal info so I'm not sure what's going on here. Is this a new norm now??

Hey guys. Thanks so much for all of you that post tips and updates. Decided to start contributing too with some of my recent favs:

Revka:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f99ce7bd-ac4d-4899-b2c3-63b740f2eb38[/URL]

She is super chill to hang with. Funny, smart and the perfect girl to go out on a date with and for things to seem natural and fun. In bed she was really good too. Nice head game, tight little body, enthusiastic. BBBJ with CIM and swallow, CFS but will do BBFS if you have recent results you can show her. The text saying I was clean wasn't enough for her and I couldn't pull up my actual results in time. Still had a great time. Multiple rounds. Think she's very kink friendly too but we didn't get the chance to explore more. Seeing her again soon. Damage was 400.

AHintOfSpice:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35602745-ebd9-4f70-ad95-ca898f6398a4[/URL]

One of my favs. Stunning Indian girl with surprisingly little inhibition. One of the best looking women I've been with. Charming personality and isn't afraid of getting down to business. Great head game (BBBJ) and took a face fucking too. Prepped to make sure my test results were available for her and she let me go bare and nut in her. Also does Greek but did not take her up on it. Have seen her multiple times and plan to continue. Damage was 400.

LilAznDoll:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de335a53-f45b-4e6a-8fc2-3bed55f3bc80[/URL]

Her name is Ying and she is every dominant guy's dream. Not much of a conversationalist, but delivers where it counts. Very sweet demeanor, very soft spoken and gets extremely turned on being told what to do. Was able to do basically anything I wanted and it was amazing. Bare everything on the table with recent results. If you like "free use" she's very into that. Versatile head game too so she can do you slow and sensual, messy and sloppy, mix it up or let you fuck her face. I had a really good time with her. Would repeat more often if she was less pricey. Damage was 600.

Going to make the rounds in the LA forum now to add more reports. Hope you guys enjoy too. Thanks.

Bigger gal with PRO vibes. She went straight to text and quoted 300 PPM. I haven't had the chance to meet up yet, but thought the initial quote had some wiggle room and will be trying to see just how much.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/9dd28043c68253e7[/URL]

[QUOTE=Misterpnw;5838513]Hey guys. Thanks so much for all of you that post tips and updates. Decided to start contributing too with some of my recent favs:

Revka:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f99ce7bd-ac4d-4899-b2c3-63b740f2eb38[/URL]

She is super chill to hang with. Funny, smart and the perfect girl to go out on a date with and for things to seem natural and fun. In bed she was really good too. Nice head game, tight little body, enthusiastic. BBBJ with CIM and swallow, CFS but will do BBFS if you have recent results you can show her. The text saying I was clean wasn't enough for her and I couldn't pull up my actual results in time. Still had a great time. Multiple rounds. Think she's very kink friendly too but we didn't get the chance to explore more. Seeing her again soon. Damage was 400.

AHintOfSpice:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/35602745-ebd9-4f70-ad95-ca898f6398a4[/URL]

One of my favs. Stunning Indian girl with surprisingly little inhibition. One of the best looking women I've been with. Charming personality and isn't afraid of getting down to business. Great head game (BBBJ) and took a face fucking too. Prepped to make sure my test results were available for her and she let me go bare and nut in her. Also does Greek but did not take her up on it. Have seen her multiple times and plan to continue. Damage was 400.

LilAznDoll:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de335a53-f45b-4e6a-8fc2-3bed55f3bc80[/URL]

Her name is Ying and she is every dominant guy's dream. Not much of a conversationalist, but delivers where it counts. Very sweet demeanor, very soft spoken and gets extremely turned on being told what to do. Was able to do basically anything I wanted and it was amazing. Bare everything on the table with recent results. If you like "free use" she's very into that. Versatile head game too so she can do you slow and sensual, messy and sloppy, mix it up or let you fuck her face. I had a really good time with her. Would repeat more often if she was less pricey. Damage was 600.

Going to make the rounds in the LA forum now to add more reports. Hope you guys enjoy too. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Why does this sound more like you're advertising for these girls? And trying to normalize requiring test results, LOL k.

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5838775]Why does this sound more like you're advertising for these girls? And trying to normalize requiring test results, LOL k.[/QUOTE]One thing I will say, dude has good taste!

They are all hotties!

Any intel on this one? [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb1fc461-3c7b-492b-9ae7-1da6fd35438f[/URL].

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5838775]Why does this sound more like you're advertising for these girls? And trying to normalize requiring test results, LOL k.[/QUOTE]Isn't the point to review?

And some of us like to play it safe. I don't usually see girls that will go bare without any questions.

Anyone know about this tiny girl? Said she is just visiting from Portland. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6a7f7727-10dd-4f0a-8b8c-f1dae6a60a34[/URL].

Got her down to 500 for a date and time at my place. Asked for 600.

On my last four business trips to eastern WA I've always been able to hookup some fun via Seeking. My first hookup via Seeking was with an amazing girl in Spokane. I've also had some good times in Walla Walla and Yakima. But this trip to Wenatchee / Leavenworth. Never encountered so much non-response, time wasters and toe dippers! Headed over here with four pots and everyone bailed, got cold feet, whatever even after agreed on PPM. Oh well, at least I go home with a full wallet.

[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5800379]$500 would be several hours and rounds with Euro hotties in a German FKK.[/QUOTE]You have no idea how much I took this comment to heart as I know them well and just got back. LOL. Although this last trip I had better success with a few agencies. FKK's still a little slow during the week. I am also a super human now as I caught COVID. Going to Germany was not the best of ideas due to their current breakout status but. Well. If you go. Make sure you go with enough time to get a negative test before returning to the states after a positive one.

Worth it?! I dunno. Every time I come back so flipping horny that I am immediately let down and depressed by what is here.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5826344]She is probably Russian. She is trying to be politically correct and hide who she is. For 900+ she can continue to dream on.[/QUOTE]During my trip. One of the agency girls I called ended up being Russian. She spent a good 20-30 minutes at the start of the hour talking about how corrupt Biden and family was. But I was able to power through it. I am truly and personally ashamed to report. I cum dumped a Trump Supporting Russian.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b74fb59f-54ed-420a-8b1e-0ddb32072f22[/URL]

She contacted me and wanted a price. I'm seeing my atf tomorrow morning, so I truly don't need to. I offer $250, she says "expected is $500, and I charge more than that. " But she would lower it to $500 because of our deep abiding love.

[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5838775]Why does this sound more like you're advertising for these girls? And trying to normalize requiring test results, LOL k.[/QUOTE]I appreciated the information provided by Mr. PNW. Deets on several SBs, including attitudes, activities, costs and profile links. Was it borderline shilling? Maybe but no more than other posts throughout the forums. When I hobby, I want to do so relatively safely: recent test results can help to prevent or slow the spread of sexually-transmitted infections. If my partner shows me their test results, I'm happy to show mine.

[QUOTE=Original703;5845105]I appreciated the information provided by Mr. PNW. Deets on several SBs, including attitudes, activities, costs and profile links. Was it borderline shilling? Maybe but no more than other posts throughout the forums. When I hobby, I want to do so relatively safely: recent test results can help to prevent or slow the spread of sexually-transmitted infections. If my partner shows me their test results, I'm happy to show mine.[/QUOTE]LOL, those pieces of paper mean nothing and you're delusional if you think it makes you safer, but ok.

Dude bombs the forum with "deets" all on the same day and you take this information at face value? Huh.