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Really guys. How much bandwidth are we going to waste quoting and reposting this unicorn discussion? And if another monger reports that SNs mailbox is full? Come on guys. Let's restore this thread to what's it's supposed to be about. Give reports on YOUR massage experiences.
If SN wanted to share in the thread he would have done do. If he wanted to share with senior members via PM he would have welcomed that. Let's move on shall we.
Good evening all. I recently started working the the Rochester Hills area and I am looking for my first massage experience in the area. If anyone has any recommendations that they are willing to share that would be great. Thanks and stay safe.
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[QUOTE=Jp1225;5313745]Thanks for the info HOC. Wendy had me go see Amy at Vital a couple weeks ago, this is what I can report.
Amy is fit / attractive. Was pleasant and gave a good massage (maybe 6-7/10). A little teasing before flip and a little teasing after but no HE. Not sure if she wasn't comfortable with me (although I came as referral from Wendy who has seen me 3 times and a handy was had each time). So ladies do open up more on future visits but I've found more often than not the ones who are willing to offer endings do so on the first visit. I've actually found in many cases that subsequent visits are sometimes not as good as they were over performing on the first visit to get you to come back.
So I would say Amy is more legit than not and her massage was not all that great. I won't repeat.[/QUOTE]
Okay, so the looks line up with what the woman I know as Lucy described, which I would expect. Lucy texted me today to let me know that Amy was working at Commerce today to see if I'd like to check her out, but I told her (truthfully) that I work until late and didn't have the free time. Given the conflict between the woman I know as Jenny and Lily, the owner of Vital, it's unlikely that Jenny would refer anyone there. So, the woman you know as Wendy might actually be the woman I know as Lucy. I can text her tomorrow and find out for sure.
On a side note, Lily told me last summer that she's trying to take Vital, Traditional & Terra in a more legit direction, because the various busts in the area have made her nervous and she doesn't want trouble. Amy might just be following orders and you might have a more happy experience with her at Commerce. *shrug* Either way, I'm very happy with the service I get from Jenny and Lucy, so if Amy's massage skills are just average, then I'm not going to go out of my way to see her.[/QUOTE]
Jp1225, I stopped by Commerce Massage today just as Amy was dropping off some food for Wendy / Lucy / Lisa, so I was able to finally meet her. It was Amy's day off, but she came in to tease me a bit before taking off. (She probably would have stayed for a 4 hands, but she had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and was feeling a bit rough.) In any event, I think your experience with her at Vital may have more to do with Lily's directions than anything. Amy works at Commerce Massage on Wednesdays, so you can take that into consideration when scheduling there.
So, I obviously buried the lede there a bit. I was able to confirm that the woman you know as Wendy is the same woman I know as Lucy and the same woman that Firemanoh knows as Lisa. Apparently, she went by Wendy at Novi Massage, Lucy at Traditional, and is now introducing herself as Lisa at Commerce. She seemed surprised that there's a message board for customers and I told her that I know for a fact that they all network, too. She laughed a bit and then shared a few amusing tales, most of which reminded me of the same cattiness of the strippers when I used to work as a DJ back in the day. Anyway, she works every day at Commerce, unless she really needs the day off. She's getting her first covid shot in the next day or two, so she might be taking a day off if she has a rough go of it.
For those that know Jenny (not the Jenny from PT Nails; the Jenny from Traditional and now the owner of Commerce Massage), she texted me today that she's getting me back from out of town on Monday. She'll probably be back in the shop after that, especially if Wendy / Lucy / Lisa is needing the day off after getting her first vaccination.
Also, they got the store sign up on the brick overhang just yesterday, so it'll be a bit easier to find now. (Lucy said that someone couldn't find the place before, even though she gave them the address. Personally, I don't know how they missed it; the window signage isn't subtle.)
[QUOTE=HouseOfCards;5319578]Jp1225, I stopped by Commerce Massage today just as Amy was dropping off some food for Wendy / Lucy / Lisa, so I was able to finally meet her. It was Amy's day off, but she came in to tease me a bit before taking off. (She probably would have stayed for a 4 hands, but she had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and was feeling a bit rough.) In any event, I think your experience with her at Vital may have more to do with Lily's directions than anything. Amy works at Commerce Massage on Wednesdays, so you can take that into consideration when scheduling there.
So, I obviously buried the lede there a bit. I was able to confirm that the woman you know as Wendy is the same woman I know as Lucy and the same woman that Firemanoh knows as Lisa. Apparently, she went by Wendy at Novi Massage, Lucy at Traditional, and is now introducing herself as Lisa at Commerce. She seemed surprised that there's a message board for customers and I told her that I know for a fact that they all network, too. She laughed a bit and then shared a few amusing tales, most of which reminded me of the same cattiness of the strippers when I used to work as a DJ back in the day. Anyway, she works every day at Commerce, unless she really needs the day off. She's getting her first covid shot in the next day or two, so she might be taking a day off if she has a rough go of it.
For those that know Jenny (not the Jenny from PT Nails; the Jenny from Traditional and now the owner of Commerce Massage), she texted me today that she's getting me back from out of town on Monday. She'll probably be back in the shop after that, especially if Wendy / Lucy / Lisa is needing the day off after getting her first vaccination.
Also, they got the store sign up on the brick overhang just yesterday, so it'll be a bit easier to find now. (Lucy said that someone couldn't find the place before, even though she gave them the address. Personally, I don't know how they missed it; the window signage isn't subtle.)[/QUOTE]Good intel HOC. I have intended to visit Wendy / Lisa at Commerce massage next week. Perhaps I'll schedule with Amy there as this environment plus her seeing me once may produce different results. I'll report back when I go.
Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.
He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?
Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.
Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .
But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh!
Less than a minute later Phil received a call from a Restricted number. The VM claims to be Livonia PoPo. The phone number is legit for LPD. Phil calls! Phil talks! Phil learns that LPD has already seen the videos and has a report / complaint and is issuing an arrest warrant for fraud.
Phil calls the guy a fourth time thinking that maybe he can negotiate a fat tip in exchange for mamasan promising not to prosecute. And the guy somehow knows that Phil JUST hung up with Detective ABC at LPD and he already knows about the arrest warrant. WTF?
I suggest that Phil shut up & lawyer up. But it may be too little, too late for Phil.
I used a bit of Google-Fu. And the guy texting Phil ultimately leads to a pic of a younger version of the olde man in OWL's back room, kit'd out and posing with a DHS helicopter. I smell bacon.
OWL does a damn fine, legit, deep tissue massage, but extras are unavailable and they apparently punish bad behavior.
[QUOTE=HungaryMan;5312964]Maybe she just used or borrowed a pic from the net as the first pic.[/QUOTE]Its her bro. Same face, same tits. Great body though.
[QUOTE=Smashing1979;5316287]Hi yall, long time monger first time poster. Moved to Michigan last year during covid but now that I'm fully vacinnated I feel comfortable jumping back into they hobby and have been checking out local establishments I have found here and on rubmaps. I will post findings and reports as I can. I got to say that the massage scene is lacking here which is surprising with a big city. Any who, some reports.
Maru massage in Saint Claire shores. Arrived during the weekend, 30 ish Chinese (I think?) girl. Skinny but not unattractive. The massage was high pressure and let me feel OTC and a little UTC up top. Got a hand job which was alright. Might repeat in a pinch but not bad.
Read a lot about Saigon spa and tiffany so wanted to check her out. Middle aged but sexy in a MILF kind of way. If this is the best you guys have to offer, that is kinda sad but I'll roll with it. Massage was non existent and hot stones were ok. Body slide and clothes come off. All the roaming you could want and hand job. I asked for more but she said maybe next time.
Made my way to Jackson since it was mentioned a lot. Went to lucky spa and drew Hannah. She's older and thicker but decent. Skipped the massage went straight to activities. CBJ, CFS. I didn't last too long I hate to admit haha but I plan on going again and trying Mikki since I heard so much about her being legendary.
Anyways that's all for now, will add more as time goes on. Peace![/QUOTE]Saigon is not what it use to be. All the hot babes left because of Tiffany. Some that left told me she was taking appointments from them. Telling clients that they were not in. What you got from her is all you're going to get. Google the Shiatsu spas or call P. T in St. Clair Shores for Jenny's number. Jenny and Ebony were the best at Saigon. Ther Ferndale spa is only providing 50+ sp who can't make it anywhere else. Both Shiatsu locations have the hottest. Jenny in St. Clair Shores has a great rack and will do BBFS even with new clients for less than $200. Hope this helps. Read the Forum for other locations. Good Luck!
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5318975]Totally off topic for the newly formed "Unicorn" thread, but here is an actual massage review nonetheless.
ScheduleD a 30 min nuru with Craigslist Lola in Pontiac. Directed me to her townhouse (likely a section 8 housing complex) so that was a little sketchy. But you are able to park out front and walk right up to her place. Pretty clean, has massage table in bedroom. She is naked in a robe. She is attractive. Thick curvy figure, pretty face. Massage was brief and above average. Is NOT a nuru massage, simply a naked body rub. She allows touching and gives a decent but not very enthusiastic hand finish. Her rate was 120 for 30 minutes (which she timed). I was able to finish but did not tip any additional (and she did not ask or seem to expect). Seemed to indicate that more service may be available in future but given that her "nuru" description is quite misleading I think it was only talk to get me to come back.
Was not horrible but not worth repeating when I can make the same drive for Jenny at PT nails for far better service.[/QUOTE]The only thing good about Lola is location. Not many options in north Oakland!
[QUOTE=OnAnonAnon;5320025]Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.
He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?
Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.
Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .
But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh![/QUOTE]Is there any chance that Phil could be charged with sexual assault or gross sexual imposition if in fact he grabbed as the report says he did?
[QUOTE=OnAnonAnon;5320025]Met a buddy for burgers, beers and beers last night. Let's call him Phil. Phil is a talker. Phil is a crier. Phil is a wreck.
He confused Ocean Wellness Livonia (OWL, strictly legit IME) for Ocean Asian Novi (OAN, YMMV IME). While face down, his opening gambit was to grab a handful ass. GILF sternly rebuffed him. On the flip, he went for the Full Trump (handful of pussy). GILF ended his session 15 minutes early and told him to leave. So he left. Without paying. He says that she told him to leave, not pay & leave. So he followed her instructions and left. Really?
Mamasan calls twice. He sent her call to VM and blocked her. VM was her demanding to be paid the fee for the full hour. He ignored her.
Next morning he has a text message from a different number telling him to return and pay. He calls, expecting to toy with mamasan. A guy answers and proceeds to address Phil by his legal name, then describes his car, license plate, home address, clothes, mask and hat. And tells him to return and pay the mamasan. Phil hangs up, then calls again. This is where Phil goes full stupid: He shrewdly attempts to negotiate $20, not the full $70 since the GILF would not play. And is promptly thanked for admitting to CSC that he dashed without paying. <Click .
But Phil is on the express train to Stupidville. He calls the guy a third time to deny everything. Then recants the denial, claiming he has video of the GILF giving him a HJ and tells the guy to FO or he will go to the cops and get OWL raided. But the bluff does not work. Phil is told to preserve the video, that a detective will call and arrange to collect the video as evidence. But there was no HJ and Phil has no video. Phil hangs up on the guy and begins to worry that his calls may have been recorded. Duh!
Less than a minute later Phil received a call from a Restricted number. The VM claims to be Livonia PoPo. The phone number is legit for LPD. Phil calls! Phil talks! Phil learns that LPD has already seen the videos and has a report / complaint and is issuing an arrest warrant for fraud.
Phil calls the guy a fourth time thinking that maybe he can negotiate a fat tip in exchange for mamasan promising not to prosecute. And the guy somehow knows that Phil JUST hung up with Detective ABC at LPD and he already knows about the arrest warrant. WTF?
I suggest that Phil shut up & lawyer up. But it may be too little, too late for Phil.
I used a bit of Google-Fu. And the guy texting Phil ultimately leads to a pic of a younger version of the olde man in OWL's back room, kit'd out and posing with a DHS helicopter. I smell bacon.
OWL does a damn fine, legit, deep tissue massage, but extras are unavailable and they apparently punish bad behavior.[/QUOTE]This was a superbly entertaining read, thanks for the story!
This is not surprising. Most of the spas have some level of security similar to what you described to protect the girls from sexual assault or go after those who don't pay what they're supposed to. Also, spa owners, managers, and many of the girls themselves read message boards like this one to get an idea of what's going on from the monger perspective.
Basically just don't be a creep or asshole, and most of us should have no problems at all.
[QUOTE=ThrobbinWood;5320262]Is there any chance that Phil could be charged with sexual assault or gross sexual imposition if in fact he grabbed as the report says he did?[/QUOTE]Penny wise, pound foolish.
Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;5320457]Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.[/QUOTE]They never moved. The only thing that changed is the doors to the rooms are removed now and it's only curtains on the door openings making it difficult to relax.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;5320457]Hey All! Been a while since I've been on the boards but curios to know what has been going on with SWB lately. I drove past the old location expecting it to be something new (since last year they had a sign up in their window that they were moving to a new location up the road) but the SWB sign was still up above the building, the open sign still in the window (not lit because it was really early in the morning) and the "we're moving" sign taken down in the window. What happened here? Did they move and then move back to the old location? Last I heard, when they moved locations the extras seemed to vanish. Any info? PM's are always welcome.[/QUOTE]Same location, they didn't move. The one report that said the extras vanished was a fabricated report from a monger that had his lies called out and wrote a review full of half truths because he threw a temper tantrum. Hand jobs are still available from all providers.
[QUOTE=IAmNotMe;5320486]They never moved. The only thing that changed is the doors to the rooms are removed now and it's only curtains on the door openings making it difficult to relax.[/QUOTE]Yes I forgot that part too. The curtains are just god awful, especially during busy days (which seems like most days now). People walking in and out, mongers waiting in the front, talking on the phone, you can hear the guy in the room next door moaning, farting, or getting jerked off. Not worth going during busy hours if relaxation is one of your goals.