"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5777471]Oh no! Nothing wrong with WYP as there are EXPLICIT and clear warnings that "Sex Should Not Be Expected On A Date!" WYP is VERY clear with that! WYP is paying $ to a girl to come eat & drink food you pay for at an expensive restaurant and she is free to (and expects to) leave no-strings attached once her belly is full. If one is expecting the girl will sleep with you after the meal, they are going to find out there is a difference of opinion or intention between the parties in most cases.

After all, "traditional" escorting: Going out to dinner, going to the theater, going to a function with eye-candy on your arm is NOT illegal. In fact, most gray-haired judges think this is what is going on, on most escort websites, since sex for money is illegal.

I was on WYP ONCE! Never got a single date out of it as girls faked and flaked. Maybe Wade's conscience will change and he'll close the WYP site down? (or his lawyers advise him to shutter it?

DO NOT think of Secret Benefits as an alternative IF it comes to that. SB uses a "credits" system where you spend your credits to initiate contact. Problem is that there is no governance to prevent fake or BOT profiles and couple that with the flakiness of POTs as seen on SA, hit rates are much lower and "spend" per date much higher!

Other sites have a specific challenge. They don't have the VOLUME to make them viable. SA has 10 women for every guy! Not sure how other sites will be able to recruit and attract women as that is the key. Just like a bar that wants to be popular. If the girls are there the guys will show up![/QUOTE]I've had 4 dates from WYP: cock tease and 3 absolute rockstar level fucks including a 19 yo red head who stayed the weekend for a grand. Then disappeared. In the end, it was for the best, she would have bankrupted me or given me a stroke.

So in the last week, I have gotten texts from 2 POTs, that I had conversations with last summer, when I was on the site. I had a tonne of balls in the air, so a few going ghost wasn't a problem. Both no longer have profiles posted. I saved pics of the girls and one of the profiles. Both are single Moms in their 30's.

Can't figure out if this is legit or what is up? Did these girls finally just burn through the SDs from last summer and instead of re-upping on SA, hit all of their old contacts? Or is there some kind of scam or something LE like nefarious I need to be concerned with?

One seems to want to meet and wants funds so she can pay a sitter, so not really into a M&G, just get to it. (Haven't seen her on any of the local escorts sites and she says she isn't sexually active.) The other set a M&G meeting, but now is texting her BR preferences, wants to be dominated and is calling me "Daddy" already. It's nice, but seems a little too soon / fast?

So Spidey Senses are tingling a bit. Perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid? Other views?

It seems that there is no need to add Zipcode to the card before using, is that correct? Or should one call and add the Zipcode thru CS?.

STG gal wanting to become a sugar baby [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f7a6b79-9e8c-4762-a21f-93cd15f9e56b[/URL].

Link to her STG ad with a couple of the same pics. [URL]https://richmond.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/why-yesim-asexxxy-petite-g00d/632432379176[/URL] Haven't seen any reviews in the Escort forum on her.

[QUOTE=SBmidlo;5785755]STG gal wanting to become a sugar baby [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7f7a6b79-9e8c-4762-a21f-93cd15f9e56b[/URL].

Link to her STG ad with a couple of the same pics. [URL]https://richmond.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/why-yesim-asexxxy-petite-g00d/632432379176[/URL] Haven't seen any reviews in the Escort forum on her.[/QUOTE]She had reviews about 4 months ago with the monkey causing her to nod out. She's also on tryst. Link. She used to room with Dakota at the Hull St. House.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5780319]So in the last week, I have gotten texts from 2 POTs, that I had conversations with last summer, when I was on the site. I had a tonne of balls in the air, so a few going ghost wasn't a problem. Both no longer have profiles posted. I saved pics of the girls and one of the profiles. Both are single Moms in their 30's.

Can't figure out if this is legit or what is up? Did these girls finally just burn through the SDs from last summer and instead of re-upping on SA, hit all of their old contacts? Or is there some kind of scam or something LE like nefarious I need to be concerned with?

One seems to want to meet and wants funds so she can pay a sitter, so not really into a M&G, just get to it. (Haven't seen her on any of the local escorts sites and she says she isn't sexually active.) The other set a M&G meeting, but now is texting her BR preferences, wants to be dominated and is calling me "Daddy" already. It's nice, but seems a little too soon / fast?

So Spidey Senses are tingling a bit. Perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid? Other views?[/QUOTE]Not unusual. I had a 30 day membership last summer and loaded up on texts and saw 4 from that crop. Some of the ones I didn't see for price reasons still contact me with their GPS quotes. They're just getting back to old contacts like we do all the time.

Recently met this vcu grad and wants to explore this world and pay off some bills. I met her at her place and I waited in with a tight little dress and no underwear, she immediately got naked and started sucking my mic, I spit in her mouth and turned her over and did her so well from behind, she kept begging me to cum inside her and so I filled her up with a nice big creampie. She said she loved them. And if I had any friend to share the number. So DM for more info. Damage 200.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a96a410-13a4-4499-ac8e-a459107fa03b[/URL]

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5331053]I saw this one a few weeks back. As others have noted she is heavier than her pics. She only hosts and is living by herself in a motel. Seems to be in rough shape, extra pounds and cutting scars on her arms / legs. Really doesn't enjoy hooking, the first two times we scheduled she backed out after telling me she selling herself makes her feel disgusting. Finally met up, she gives good head but definitely isn't enjoying herself. Prefers to be taken from behind, guessing so she doesn't have to look at you. As others have noted, she is fine with BBFS. Not sure on the birth control situation, she asked me to pull out right as I finished and definitely got a few squirts in her.

I won't be seeing her again, she's in rough shape and clearly having a hard time in life. She is 18 yo though so I gave it a whirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/02ef6df1-880b-4277-aa4b-5b329d873b67[/URL][/QUOTE]

I have a question. Someone from the SA site reported me for soliciting, and I was blocked. I used another email to registered, but when I paid for membership, the site recognized me and blocked me again. How can I get around this? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ntcuonghm1;5789298]I have a question. Someone from the SA site reported me for soliciting, and I was blocked. I used another email to registered, but when I paid for membership, the site recognized me and blocked me again. How can I get around this? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.

[QUOTE=Rentahoo;5789752]You can try a VPN but if someone doesn't want your business then it's hard to get them to take it. And SA doesn't want your business. There is tons of chatter about people being in SA jail. My bet is that there is a subtextual but deliberate decision by SA to get out of the business and just drain as much cash as they can before that inevitable date. The founder made his money and has had a change of heart per his statements online. Win-win for him. Gets to ride off into the sunset and avoids issues with feds. Everyone is well aware how the site was being used but in the last year they have taken a hard line against hobbyists.[/QUOTE]I love Traveler's idea of the VPN but I got banned using it. Might have been a mistake on my side as I logged in without VPN and then about 5 minutes later had my VPN on for some work stuff and then logged in again. Needless to say no one can go from VA to Germany in 5 minutes! Haha. Moral of the story. Be consistent with where / how you log in.

Looks TGTBT. Doesn't reply [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/209c39b2-f4c5-4cd3-af55-2dbb4d9c2125[/URL].

Seems very DTF, knows the score -- can seem to get much momentum or move her to text [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/60622d48-4606-4861-9af5-c97735b26633[/URL].

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/852f06f7-2392-455a-a20e-21cc17684807[/URL] -- finally got a reply from her, she hasnt been online in a while. Bit of a butter face, but I'd be happy so long as gps isn't in the picture.

MILF freak. Not the best photo of her, others she sent were much better. Pretty much down for anything, really isn't about the $$ [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6136ce9c-652f-4907-aff0-0b8d1261354f[/URL].

Pic sellter -- [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/58482d08-5d81-49e1-8fe9-9bcab6128862[/URL].

Real. Goes to Radford, won't do marrieds [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7e51da76-b1ac-40a2-9e86-19f4e285bc8b[/URL].

This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d1899dd-47ce-4884-97fd-a18b721657a5[/URL]

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/665f4584-9ade-4cc5-9be0-472ff17f6401[/URL]

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5790050]This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d1899dd-47ce-4884-97fd-a18b721657a5[/URL]

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/665f4584-9ade-4cc5-9be0-472ff17f6401[/URL]

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.[/QUOTE]I get the same message on both. What were their usernames -- might recall if they blocked me or if they are merely gone.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;5790050]This link comes as. Unable to send a message as user is no longer active. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4d1899dd-47ce-4884-97fd-a18b721657a5[/URL]

This link comes as. The user's account has been deactivated. - when I read her message.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/665f4584-9ade-4cc5-9be0-472ff17f6401[/URL]

Can anyone try and see if either link works for them.

Assuming first one has blocked me and second one has deactivated her profile, just want to be sure of the process, know there have been questions about this earlier.[/QUOTE]Neither of them work for me so they must have deactivated their profiles.