Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1493078]I'm lookiing forward to the day when the skeletons in the closets of Pastor Dave, MVOC, Mayor Frank, Attorney General DeWine, and Hicks will be exposed and rattling. The true face of all these people will be revealed and shattered. Even those women of MVOC will be found wanting after all their dirt will be revealed as well. Still nothing about Human Trafficking which was their excuse for the raids. It was just a shake down afterall. Government needs money.[/QUOTE]Myself, I can tell you that these people arent as innocent as projected.

A few questions?

Are the spa owners crazy for not defending the actions brought against them?

Are the coffers that shallow?

As a business person and from a personal standing, I would defend myself right, wrong or indifferent.

Well, it is an adjustment not having the freedom of weekly massage from some of the beauties we got to know over the last several years.

[QUOTE=Fannima30;1493172]Thats kind of weird someone with 3 posts would be asking.[/QUOTE]Monger groupies? Maybe Frank's got a fan or possible stalker.

Anybody been to a spa lately?

I'm not sure one way or the other about the Asians being cheap. How could someone not have been getting greased? The AMPs ran for years without anyone stepping in. The police chief himself said there were no complaints. It was not until Dewine and the State stepped in to force Warren's hand.

IF the powers that be really did want the parlors shut down they would have done more than making laws to shut them down midnight to 6 am and charging more for a license. The police could not have done their own investigation? According to this [url]http://www.warren.org/police.htm[/url], there were only 3 prostitution investigations in 2009!

Nice photo OP. Now how about an investigation into all the drug activity Mikey? Oh. Guess a pic with a Meth tweeker doesn't go over so well.

All this supposed "illegal" activity and no one went to jail? They spent over a year investigating "human trafficking" and no one spent a night in jail? Maybe they agreed to shut down and avoid jail in exchange for not saying who got paid off.

QUOTE=Low Key; 1492062]Lets not act like these spas were just so innocent. Lets be honest. They were illegal set ups probably not paying taxes or the right amount of them anyway and they were hosting a place where crimes could go down. I know they are victimless crimes but nonetheless crimes. I think it was dumb as hell to shut them down because I am sure they provided a little business to the local spots for food gas and snacks. It appears that these businesses probably did need the traffic it created and I'm sure the local law offices could of just imposed some dumb tax to make sure the places cough up money or be shut down. If you are going to be doing things illegal or not by the book then you should be greasing palms. Asians are cheap, its a known fact, so I'm sure barely any tax money made its way into the city and that chapped someones ass and hence the wrecking ball started. All in all bad business move for Warren but these girls will find other AMPs to go be part of whether its in MI or WI or where ever they exist everywhere. NOW the true story at hand is where else will they pop up? All the massage places the teeny boppers are working at are all over and all over back page, so there is def entertainment out there. Will they give us showers and take time with us? Prob not. But at least we have something. I am half tempted to open a spa with a gate and buzzer and make it membership only and hire about 5 girls and do this right. It will take time and tons of checks to grow it. But it would be like my own palace. Anyway, back to reality. It sucks. They shut down. But backpage has plenty of new spots opening up and closing by the day so we will be able to get our fix one way or another.[/QUOTE]

The alleged human trafficking in the Warren AMP's is equivalent to the WMD's in Iraq. Neither of them exist.

Coming to a street in Warren soon?

[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1493859]The alleged human trafficking in the Warren AMP's is equivalent to the WMD's in Iraq. Neither of them exist.[/QUOTE]I'd be surprised if the relevant authorities don't consider entering the country illegally for the purposes of commercial sex work to be human trafficking 'per se, ' nor would it surprise me to learn that at least some of the younger workers were mislead as to the nature of the work they'd find available to them in the US, or the terms under which they were brought here, I. E. Length of contract or amount owed to the person or persons providing their transport, etc.

[QUOTE=Book Man; 1490327]City of Warren law director, Trumbull county prosecutor, OhioBCI, ICE and the attorney for Fantacy Spa.

Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]LOL thats funny.

[QUOTE=Thee SuperDan;1488003]Well said, I've done the same many a time. Been thinking about spa 76[/QUOTE]Over priced and to fast.

[QUOTE=Mickey7;1486697]If the walls at the 4 Seasons could talk.[/QUOTE]I actually have a tape of 2 of my dreams from their with that particular star and a couple from on other. Its amazing what you can put in a pack.

But the sun was always the place to go for a long time untill they sold. Their were many a times that I've left that place after sun up. Lots of private parties. Over 20 yrs worth all total and never a problem untill now.

Going to be up in michigan next weekend. Any intell on where Lisa is and if she is still working?

Thanks HD

[QUOTE=Hdrk55; 1496774]Going to be up in michigan next weekend. Any intell on where Lisa is and if she is still working?

Thanks HD[/QUOTE]She is at Hawaii Health Spa in Charlotte, Michigan. Check the Lansing massage parlor forum for recent reports on her.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Hdrk55; 1496774]Going to be up in michigan next weekend. Any intell on where Lisa is and if she is still working?

Thanks HD[/QUOTE]Last I heard she is still working at a place in

Charlotte Mi I believe it is the only one in that town. Enjoy

[QUOTE=Poontuner; 1494403]I actually have a tape of 2 of my dreams from their with that particular star and a couple from on other. Its amazing what you can put in a pack.

But the sun was always the place to go for a long time untill they sold. Their were many a times that I've left that place after sun up. Lots of private parties. Over 20 yrs worth all total and never a problem untill now.[/QUOTE]The best of the best for talk dirty to me.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Crism0808;1492500]Has anyone heard from Cesar Romero or Frank69 lately?[/QUOTE]He was supposed to visit with AMP Hall of Famer Lisa / Mikki plus a former Sun Spa girl named Naomi in Detroit but no confirmation from the Joker. Could he have found a steady from Fillipinodotcom?

Happy Mongering.

Saturday I made my sojourn to Akron where I visit about 4 times a year. I traveled with heavy heart knowing that the spas in warren had all been closed. After spending the night in a motel I g.

Et up and purchased the Sunday Akron newspaper. Much to my delight I found an ad in the sports section for 4 seasons saying it was open 24 hours and under new management. Yippee! Because the spa was about 1/2 hour away I (being oh so bright) thought I would call first as they listed two phone numbers. I called both. No answer. So, I'm thinking well, they being the only spa around maybe they were too busy to answer the phone. So, I called again. And again, and again. No answer, no recording, nothing. Sh! Double sh!

[QUOTE=Coonie2; 1500865]Saturday I made my sojourn to Akron where I visit about 4 times a year. I traveled with heavy heart knowing that the spas in warren had all been closed. After spending the night in a motel I g.

Et up and purchased the Sunday Akron newspaper. Much to my delight I found an ad in the sports section for 4 seasons saying it was open 24 hours and under new management. Yippee! Because the spa was about 1/2 hour away I (being oh so bright) thought I would call first as they listed two phone numbers. I called both. No answer. So, I'm thinking well, they being the only spa around maybe they were too busy to answer the phone. So, I called again. And again, and again. No answer, no recording, nothing. Sh! Double sh![/QUOTE]Boarded up and the sign is gone. They are definitely closed.

[QUOTE=Coonie2; 1500865]Saturday I made my sojourn to Akron where I visit about 4 times a year. I traveled with heavy heart knowing that the spas in warren had all been closed. After spending the night in a motel I g.

Et up and purchased the Sunday Akron newspaper. Much to my delight I found an ad in the sports section for 4 seasons saying it was open 24 hours and under new management. Yippee! Because the spa was about 1/2 hour away I (being oh so bright) thought I would call first as they listed two phone numbers. I called both. No answer. So, I'm thinking well, they being the only spa around maybe they were too busy to answer the phone. So, I called again. And again, and again. No answer, no recording, nothing. Sh! Double sh![/QUOTE]They must have forgotten to cancel that ad or had a monthly contract. They were raided on Tuesday July3 and on July10 a picture was posted on tribtodaydotcom that showed all the signs and beds outside the spa after the operators gutted the interior voluntarily. The operator goes to court on July31 for a preliminary hearing on prostitution charges.

Happy Mongering.

All of the spas in Warren are gone, but there is still another place where you can find exactly what you are looking for, and it isn't that far from Warren. The quality of the help isn't exactly up to Sun standards, but it could definitely be workable. I'm definitely not posting this for all to see, so if you are a senior member who isn't as asshole feel free to PM me.

[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1493078]I'm lookiing forward to the day when the skeletons in the closets of Pastor Dave, MVOC, Mayor Frank, Attorney General DeWine, and Hicks will be exposed and rattling. The true face of all these people will be revealed and shattered. Even those women of MVOC will be found wanting after all their dirt will be revealed as well. Still nothing about Human Trafficking which was their excuse for the raids. It was just a shake down afterall. Government needs money.[/QUOTE]Video posted on WKBNDOTCOM tonight.

Happy Mongering.

One of Warren's morally superior do-gooders who pushed to close down the spas, allegedly breaks the law. Enjoy!

[url]http://www.wkbn.com/content/news/local/story/Councilwoman-Faces-Fictitious-Plates-Speed-Charges/22xqa5rgiU-tAd7JaNOGZg.cspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Bikerman;1474656]I have a lot of hints and some are very familiar. Funny thing I also found out what this was all about (raids) whole different ball game![/QUOTE]According to TRIBTODAYDOTCOM the remaining 2 spas remaining in Warren have continued the lawsuit against the city of Warren concerning new spa legislation.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Spa Lunker; 1504200]When I offered up info to SENIOR MEMBERS, I wasn't referring to the ones with 25-30 posts who reached senior status only because they managed to post a bunch of BS with no infractions. I was referring to the ones with 200-300 posts who really contribute good info on a regular basis to this thread in particular. I have replied to those few who I feel are trustworthy, but I will not be answering all of the others, especially you idiots with seven posts who claim to be long time lurkers.

Get real.[/QUOTE]You can't trust anyone on a public forum. Warren spas and the Indys bust should have taught all of us that. Why not just make thei of public?

So as I understand it there are two spas still fighting to stay open. Questions 1 which ones are they and 2 is it total madness that I am even thinking about stopping in? Anybody cruise the ruins of what was once, hind sight being what it is now, paradise. Yea I said it warren = paradise 6 months ago it was a chuck hole riden rotting city with a dozen or so shing lights. Today what I would give to be swallowed up by a warren chuck hole on my way to fantacy or sun. Think I'm still grieving

[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1502038]All of the spas in Warren are gone, but there is still another place where you can find exactly what you are looking for, and it isn't that far from Warren. The quality of the help isn't exactly up to Sun standards, but it could definitely be workable. I'm definitely not posting this for all to see, so if you are a senior member who isn't as asshole feel free to PM me.[/QUOTE]By my posts everyone can see I'm fairly new on here. Happen to have some info on couple girls, and digits. All at once I get

A bunch of PMs wanting numbers and prices. With the exception of one member (2862) no one offered me any info or digits. I

Didn't ask for any, but as a common courtesy wouldn't you think? One guy was a senior with just over 30 posts. Had one PM

From a guy with zero post ". I don't have any info or digit but I'll let you know If I get some "". Guess the PM that got me the.

Most. Guy wants a number from a girl I had real good time with. I send it to him. Look in my inbox yesterday, and he

PMs ". And what did you do with her." This was in reference to the girl he requested (and I sent number to)

I thought, that I just stared to post how far back could it be? Second PAGE! WTF.

I do want to help out I don't want to give out info to the wrong people that may make hard on someone that been good to me.

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So last night I was watcihing Tv and saw team USA vollyball, vs Korea. About Half way through the game I thought to myself Man I wish I could get a massage.

[QUOTE=BigBob666;1515485]So last night I was watcihing Tv and saw team USA vollyball, vs Korea. About Half way through the game I thought to myself Man I wish I could get a massage.[/QUOTE]Oddly, I thought the same thing when I saw the Korean woman. Hard to beleive how much time has passed since the AMP collapse.

[QUOTE=PhlipPhlop;1506691]So as I understand it there are two spas still fighting to stay open. Questions 1 which ones are they and 2 is it total madness that I am even thinking about stopping in? Anybody cruise the ruins of what was once, hind sight being what it is now, paradise. Yea I said it warren = paradise 6 months ago it was a chuck hole riden rotting city with a dozen or so shing lights. Today what I would give to be swallowed up by a warren chuck hole on my way to fantacy or sun. Think I'm still grieving[/QUOTE]I checked out the pathetic remnants today. All the raided spas have removed their signs and have for sale or for lease signs. Four Seasons the same thing. Susi Kim's Spa in Niles was open.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=BigBob666;1515485]So last night I was watcihing Tv and saw team USA vollyball, vs Korea. About Half way through the game I thought to myself Man I wish I could get a massage.[/QUOTE]If you happen to watch the LPGA, you might think the same thing. Going into Sunday, about 7 of the 10 leaders were from South Korea.

[QUOTE=Textb001;1517411]If you happen to watch the LPGA, you might think the same thing. Going into Sunday, about 7 of the 10 leaders were from South Korea.[/QUOTE]Thinking about going to suzie kims in Niles this weekend. They never got raided. Am l nuts?

Took a little trip further east and with heavy heart drove past warren. In the ruins of what used to be Mecca, for Ohioans at least, down the pike there was talk of another player still in the game. I figured for a extra quater to the state for tolls and 10 minutes of times I should at least give it a try. I parked away frow my destination, thanks jeep that's the only thing from your Armageddon posts I learned from. So unless there are surveillance cameras at Starbucks I think I'm safe. For extra precaution I wore a frank mask just in case mr dewine has surplus FBI facial recognition equipment canvassing the northeast quadrant of the state. Anyway I will cut to the chase and let you read between the lines to try and keep the spotlight off the remaining Asian shower facilities. Massuse old not very attractive maybe fantacy Kim's mom. Pricey for the " shower" she offered. Tried the jackrabbit start trying to get you to the finish line before the commercials were over on a segment of the price was right she was watching before I got there. Rush rush see ya. Won't be back unless some else has better luck and talk the little guy into it, he's easily persuaded. On a bright note unlike warrens coffee choices I left the Starbucks lot went to flying j and got some excellent java. If this guy runs the browns like he runs his truck stop thing are looking up Phlip

Our favoritehole in the wall has managed to score 8 new police cruisers!

Where did the money come from? Seizures! Best guess would be " thank you spas of warren" your loss has become our gain!

So "Y", it would seem after the mill closing and the rest of the losses by city leaders that it is questionable where they will get the money to operate the police department? What a joke, if the people of Warren can't see the handwriting on the wall they are dumber than originally thought!

So where do you think all of the girls & "owners" will end up going? Got to go somewhere.

[QUOTE=Den Dem;1520013]So where do you think all of the girls & "owners" will end up going? Got to go somewhere.[/QUOTE]Probably Korea.

[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1519367]Our favoritehole in the wall has managed to score 8 new police cruisers!

Where did the money come from? Seizures! Best guess would be " thank you spas of warren" your loss has become our gain!

So "Y", it would seem after the mill closing and the rest of the losses by city leaders that it is questionable where they will get the money to operate the police department? What a joke, if the people of Warren can't see the handwriting on the wall they are dumber than originally thought![/QUOTE]What kind are they? Chargers I'm guessing. Probably $50k each with all the equipment on them. So $400, 000. I have a feeling they will be sitting in the parking lot gathering dirt when they have to lay off officers when they can't make payroll. I'm guessing they received a federal grant to buy the new cars.

Romney's running mate visits the hot dog shop! Any bets? I hope he brought spare underware.

10 to 1 he will have to take a shit within a half hour. I would have gave up my frequent flyer card at the local AMP and made sure he remembered his visit. A good slip and slide can straighten out even the most screwed up politician.

[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1520414]Romney's running mate visits the hot dog shop! Any bets? I hope he brought spare underware.

10 to 1 he will have to take a shit within a half hour. I would have gave up my frequent flyer card at the local AMP and made sure he remembered his visit. A good slip and slide can straighten out even the most screwed up politician.[/QUOTE]I don't think Rmney would eat at the hot dog shop, he was in NYC and refused to eat a canolie in little italy. In Philly he would not have a cheese steak, and since all the spas are gone the only thing to eat is at the hot dog shop, I doubt he will take a bite. Now I remember when Bill Clinton ran for office he spent a lot of time in Warren, never made any speeches.

On a side note I wonder if on the Ryan Voucher plan if you can use those vouchers at the spa?

The one spa in Warren that wasn't raided appears to be closed. WTF?

Is the Hot Dog Shopp still open? I would have thought with all the Warren tourism shut off the place would have a hard time staying open.

[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1522047]The one spa in Warren that wasn't raided appears to be closed. WTF?[/QUOTE]They have a lawsuit against the city of Warren for loss of business. They probably closed shop instead of taking a chance of getting busted and will take their chances with the lawsuit.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Frank69; 1522030]I don't think Rmney would eat at the hot dog shop, he was in NYC and refused to eat a canolie in little italy. In Philly he would not have a cheese steak, and since all the spas are gone the only thing to eat is at the hot dog shop, I doubt he will take a bite. Now I remember when Bill Clinton ran for office he spent a lot of time in Warren, never made any speeches.

On a side note I wonder if on the Ryan Voucher plan if you can use those vouchers at the spa?[/QUOTE]The hot dog is out of the question but if warren were still flying under the radar, as years past, I wouldn't be surprised if he sampled some Vietnamese or Korean. And no I don't mean cuisine