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New Orleans is about 24 or 25. I guess she could look somewhat like a pug. See, this would be so easier if I could just post one of the several mugs I have of her and say here she is. It only helps if I have posted one in the past and can give a link to where it is. If it's someone else, then all I can do is describe them. In the last few days there have been questions about the mother from the mother/daughter duo, Tarretta, Melissa, Amie, New Orleans, and a few others. All of these I have either mug shots of, or newer ones to better show what they look like. This is where the inability to post them hinders us. I would go ahead and post them but I don't want to rock the boat. I already feel my posts are being monitored, maybe for my voicing out over the disallowing of the posting of them, because I saw where one of my posts in the 'AL-other areas' folder last week was edited for some unknown reason. I can't figure why my post would be edited because I believe I post using good grammar, spelling and punctuation. I try to check my posts for spelling, so I'm sure it's not that. Even if I missed a comma or something here or there, or made a run on sentence, it's not nearly as bad as things that have been posted by others lately in bong smoking induced rants. I just couldn't see why my post would be corrected while other's posts are not who misspell things frequently, use awful grammar and punctuation, and write their posts as if they're casually talking to someone else.

As far as getting someone off the street, there's much more into it than just getting them away from whatever thug they're around and fixing up their appearance. The drug they're on is the main problem, and it involves more than getting them sober from it. There's usually a reason people are addicted to something, moreso than someone just got them to try something and they ended up liking it. Problems in their life usually caused them to go to something to alter their thinking so they felt good and didn't have to think about whatever problem they might be running from. If they're gotten off of it, unless they really want to get off it, they're going to go back. Look at all the girls who get locked up. They're in jail so long they've gone through withdrawal and basically the drug is out of their system. When they get out what's the first thing they do ? I've had SW tell me how they wish someone would come and do the very thing you speak of, but I know that just someone offering them a good life isn't enough.

[QUOTE=Clark Kent] I had likened her to an ugly Barbra Streisand. [/QUOTE]

Is there any other kind? That woman is a DOG...;just one mans opinion!

Several afternoons lately I have seen WSW near Sun Inn on Bessemer Super, just west of 5 points shopping. One afternoon when I was just window shopping she was by the phone at the store between car wash and auto parts. Stopped to get cigs and get a closer look. Somewhat slim to average maybe 5'6 or so. Cold and have always seen her in hooded shirt so can not tell much about body. That day at store, she asked for ride "just around block" --No time and no $$ on my part. Will probably check later..

Headed to Bessemer this AM around 7:00. Blonde WSW near that little Notel by the junk yard, I guess that is Lipscomb on Bessemer Super. She was all bundled up in coat but could see blonde shoulder length hair. She was sure trying to make contact but once again---NO time.

Has anyone met either of these and have information to share.

Ginal, those places you mentioned always are good places to watch for girls. The Sun always has girls hanging around it when I pass by there at night, though lately I haven't seen as much. There was a blonde WSW who was hanging around there during the summer that always stood on the road between the Sun and Exxon. The motel by the junk yard is the Ace. It looks like it's close to 100 years old, and looks more like a boarding hosue than a motel. It's not Lipscomb where it's at, it's either Brighton or Birmingham. Actually I think Brighton is on the opposite side of the road and Birmingham is where the Ace is, because the fire station is in Birmingham. The cities lined up along there is quite confusing, as you go from Birmingham to Fairfield, Midfield, Brighton, Birmingham again, Lipscomb and then Bessemer. The Budget is in Bessemer, as it's highly watched by Bessemer's 'finest'. I did see the blonde standing outside the Ace last night around where the phone booth is. I used to think that was a good place to pick somebody up, but I saw a cop hid in the shadows watching it one time and have been cautious about being too eager to pull the trigger and pick someone up without checking around thoroughly. I'm glad others are noticing the other areas of town other that the usual standbys. Girls on the west side of town seem to never venture out of their area. I remember the first timeI started venturing out there it was like I went to a totally different city, as in new faces and new choices.

One recently released named Kerri Nix , by any chance anyone know her?

Clark you are sure correct on the law enforcement in that area. Most of the towns you mention have cars on Bessemer Super and seem to cross into other areas to turn around. Just about any time you drive that strech of road by Ace, Highway Host and Budget you will see plenty of cars and usually several trying to hide and watch for easy prey. Be careful if LEO don't get you the local thugs might (In which case LEO will be down at the coffee shop and no where around to protect you)

I remember the Ace from years back. Pretty sparce accomodations compared to today's motels. Rooms just big enough for a bed. Designed for sleeping and screwing not comfort and entertaining.

Bamasam, that Nix girl has about 3 other girls that live at that same address that frequently get arrested for domestic violence, intoxication, disorderly conduct and the like. If you looked you would also have seen a male with the same last name who also lives at the same house get released that same day. They all have been arrested numerous times.

I was told by a SW I know that the cops showed her a mug of a girl they were looking for, and when she described her, it was the mother we had been discussing. Her description to me was old, with a long pointy nose, plus they were looking around the 50th Street area. Seems she's wanted for about $15,000 worth of bad checks.

Ginal, that whole stretch of Bessemer Super Highway can at times be crawling with cops. It's good I know the back roads through Lipscomb and Bessemer and can loop back around so I'm not blatantly turning around in the middle of the highway. Plus, if it's at night, by going down back roads you're not just riding back and forth down the main road, which can make you seem out of place since there's not many cars that ride down the road at night. There are several roads you can take to get back to the road I'm describing, which is called Jefferson Avenue before Bessemer and Dartmouth Avenue going into Bessemer. You can turn at the light in Lipscomb by the bread store and bingo hall. You can turn at the light right by the bowling alley and outdoor ice machine. You can turn on the road across from the Budget on the stretch in Bessemer, and you can turn at the light in Midfield that's across from the Family Dollar and Church's chicken. If you go down any of these roads, just follow them till you comes to a road with a stop sign, which is more often than not the road I'm describing, and then see if it's Jefferson or Dartmouth and turn left. Once you've driven around the area a while, you'll get the hang of all the back roads and know where you're going.

Yes I know who she is. She runs with a friend of mine but I have never dated her.

[QUOTE=Bamasam]One recently released named Kerri Nix , by any chance anyone know her?[/QUOTE]

I just now saw this. Any of you guys go for the $2500 drinks ?

LOL

Stripper's suit against club set for fall trial
Posted by Eric Velasco -- Birmingham News January 26, 2009 6:00 AM

A former stripper's lawsuit against a Birmingham club might have legal legs, a Jeffer*son County judge has ruled.

Circuit Judge Caryl Privett this month denied a request to toss out the suit Patsy Hamaker filed in 2008 against The Furnace strip club.

That sets the stage for a possible Oct. 26 jury trial on her claims that mandatory on-the-job drinking led to a drunken crash on Oct. 18, 2007, that left her disfigured and with a broken back.



Hamaker, 32, contends the club had an obligation to keep her from driving home drunk. The Furnace has denied re*quiring its dancers to drink al*cohol at work and contends Hamaker is solely responsible for her injuries.

Court papers filed in the lawsuit so far also offer a be*hind-the-scenes peek at oper*ations at The Furnace, which bills itself as a high-end gen*tlemen's club.

Dancers there are required to surrender their car keys be*fore work and undergo in*spections by "house mothers" before taking the stage, re*cords show.

House rules tell dancers to subtly encourage customers to buy "dancer drinks" with a $12-$2,500 price range. Danc*ers get the drink and $5 to $900 from each sale, court re*cords show.

Hamaker claims she was one of The Furnace's top sell*ers when she worked there from 2005 until the wreck.

The Bessemer resident's suit argues she deserves com*pensation for more than $95,000 in medical and vehi*cle-repair bills. She also claims lost income of $2,500 per month -- commissions on dancer drinks, tips for dances and fees for entertaining in the private "VIP" room.

Hamaker, who said she is unable to work and in con*stant pain, also asks for puni*tive damages, or extra money to punish the company.

The Furnace denies Ham*aker's claims and says in court papers that she is not entitled to any money from the club. The night Hamaker was injured, she sold only one dancer's drink, a $22 half-bot*tle of wine, The Furnace con*tends in court papers.

Privett rejected a request last year by The Furnace to dismiss the suit and a sepa*rate request this year for a pretrial ruling in its favor.

Robert Poole, the club's Opelika-based lawyer, de*clined comment. Efforts were unsuccessful Friday to reach Alan Smith, Hamaker's Pel*ham-based lawyer.

House rules

Among court documents is The Furnace's manual for dancers and a list of 46 house rules that cover how dancers should look, dress, act and do their jobs without running afoul of solicitation laws.

For example, house rules tell dancers they can't chew gum on the job or make a purse out of the blue felt bag sold with Crown Royal scotch.

Dancers should make sure they have plenty of costumes for each shift, according to the rules. Their shoes should have no scuffs and their nail polish should not be chipped.

They should be ap*proachable and make sure ev*ery patron feels special, the manual says.

"Remember you are here to entertain the customers," the rules say. "They are leaving their problems at home and coming here to escape."

Prostitution, lewd behavior and drug use or sales are au*tomatic grounds for dismissal, according to the manual. Sex*ual harassment also is prohib*ited.

A house mother inspects all dancers to ensure no body parts are exposed that the law requires to be covered, the rules say.

Getting customers to buy drinks for strippers is a deli*cate dance, records show. Dancers are told to never ask a customer to buy them a drink. "This is solicitation and is illegal," the rules say. "You must wait until he offers."

But employees are told they risk losing their jobs if they don't sell enough dancer drinks, a former Furnace em*ployee said in a sworn statement filed in the case.

Non-alcoholic drinks are an option. Club rules set a two-drink limit on alcohol for the dancers, both with manage*ment permission. "This is for your protection," the rules say.

A former server at The Fur*nace said in a sworn statement that she saw man*agers at least once refuse to let Hamaker leave work be*cause she was too drunk.

"I have seen Patsy Hamaker too drunk to drive," Kim Cook said in the sworn statement, "but never too drunk to sell drinks and make money."

Side door only

Dancers are told to enter the club from a side door -- never the main entrance -- and surrender their car keys when they arrive.

"You must pass a breatha*lyzer test before you can get your keys," the rules say.

Hamaker and a former manager of The Furnace both filed sworn statements saying they never saw the club's breathalyzer used for dancers.

Dancers pay a series of fees after work, including $3 to the house mother, $10 to the DJ and a $35 "house fee," court records show. Security is sup*posed to escort dancers to their cars after work.

The dancers' manual takes a pep-rally approach, saying they are part of the "#1 team" in the nightclub business. It encourages the kind of posi*tive and fun attitude the man*ual calls "Showtime."

"We make the difference!" the manual says in all capital letters. "Not the tables, not the chairs, not the bars and not the lights . . . What time is it? It's showtime!"

[QUOTE=Rj2008]Getting customers to buy drinks for strippers is a deli*cate dance, records show. Dancers are told to never ask a customer to buy them a drink. "This is solicitation and is illegal," the rules say. "You must wait until he offers."

But employees are told they risk losing their jobs if they don't sell enough dancer drinks, a former Furnace em*ployee said in a sworn statement filed in the case.[/QUOTE] That's pretty funny. So if you don't sell "dancer drinks" then you will get fired but you can't ask a John to buy a "dancer drink" because that's illegal. That's just stupid.

I like how you can't chew gum yet they would probably turn the other way if they knew someone was getting blown in the VIP rooms. I've never been a fan of strip clubs. I have never gotten the point. "Let me give you a lot of money to take your clothes off, and I will leave and go home and then I will be drunk enough and horny enough to fuck my wife." I went into a few in my late teens and early twenties. Guys that go to strip clubs, for the most part are suckers and gullible. You have the guy who thinks the girl is in love with him just because she is grinding on his lap. And you just paid her $50 to have that done. Or, in ths case buying a $12 watered down drink so she can flirt with you more. And do you really think that the drinks that the customer buys for the dancer, is really alcohol. There are probably alot of drunk morons that spent money buying a stripper sweet tea.

Does anyone get jealous or sad when they see the pics of sw's from other areas of the country? I know I do. Those recent pics that Baldy Cruiser posted are insane. I wish those types of girls would be in Bham for just one day. My nuts would be dry heaving by the end of the day. Instead we have ladies that look like Rod Stewart and guys pretending to be ladies who look like Dudley from Different Strokes.

[QUOTE=Make It Good]That's pretty funny. So if you don't sell "dancer drinks" then you will get fired but you can't ask a John to buy a "dancer drink" because that's illegal. That's just stupid.[/QUOTE]

That must be interesting as to how those girls go about trying to hint to the customer they want a drink.

[QUOTE=Spider Man]I like how you can't chew gum yet they would probably turn the other way if they knew someone was getting blown in the VIP rooms. I've never been a fan of strip clubs. I have never gotten the point. "Let me give you a lot of money to take your clothes off, and I will leave and go home and then I will be drunk enough and horny enough to fuck my wife." I went into a few in my late teens and early twenties. Guys that go to strip clubs, for the most part are suckers and gullible. You have the guy who thinks the girl is in love with him just because she is grinding on his lap. And you just paid her $50 to have that done. Or, in ths case buying a $12 watered down drink so she can flirt with you more. And do you really think that the drinks that the customer buys for the dancer, is really alcohol. There are probably alot of drunk morons that spent money buying a stripper sweet tea.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I've only went inside a strip club once in my life, and even though watching the girls dance on stage was nice, it wasn't someplace I'd visit regularly. This was a while ago at the old Lynn's Den. First of all, I'd imagine if someone like me stayed in the strip club and just watched the dancers and didn't shed bills, I'd probably be asked to leave. The time I was in there with a couple friends, I was basically made a joke of by them and the dancer who had their attention because I chose to just sit and watch instead of going up to the stage and handing out money. The funniest thing to watch was the guys who went up to the stages and would get this serious, stern look on their face when they had a girl wagging their boobs in their face. It's like if they smiled and acted as if they enjoyed it, they would be perceived as being a pervert. That was just a first time impression, but it was my only impression.