Does anyone know of a girl / woman who may give topless haircuts?
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Does anyone know of a girl / woman who may give topless haircuts?
[QUOTE=Lakeshore1;3564992]Does anyone know of a girl / woman who may give topless haircuts?[/QUOTE]I know an old barber who'll take his shirt off. Not a pretty site but ya get a great haircut!
Try Slim Tori. The one with her store next to the Dentist on Kalamazoo or Breton. I am sure someone has her digits. She is a masseuse and haircut specialist.
[QUOTE=Bloozer;3565326]I know an old barber who'll take his shirt off. Not a pretty site but ya get a great haircut![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EdMonger;3565506]Try Slim Tori. The one with her store next to the Dentist on Kalamazoo or Breton. I am sure someone has her digits. She is a masseuse and haircut specialist.[/QUOTE]Sweet. I'd love to get her contact info.
Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.
[QUOTE=Otto22;3573733]Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good experience. Not all of us have those girls we can go and trust. We all know that service and attitude can change with each visit. We get stuck on the table with our dick in their hand and they start negotiating, that's when you have to start thinking with your big head, how much is this worth? Some of the massage parlors and girls have decided that paying early ends the negotiations but it also can lead to rip off. If you paid for a half hour and only get 15 minutes that's a rip-off, did she steal your money or did you gave it to her too early? There is no accountability for their massage or Happy Endings, if you tip early. The only true accountability is on usasexguide reviews and if they don't read this forum the majority of mongers will get ripped off, when they tip early. So how do we end GPS in the massage parlors? It's easy, keep your money in your pocket until the services are done. How do we end GPS for escorts? That's easy too. They will give you the price before you arrive, if you don't like the price hang up. Learn how to walk out the door on an upsell, think with the big head.
No GPS for me!
[QUOTE=Benz1;3574185]Sounds like a good experience. Not all of us have those girls we can go and trust. We all know that service and attitude can change with each visit. We get stuck on the table with our dick in their hand and they start negotiating, that's when you have to start thinking with your big head, how much is this worth? Some of the massage parlors and girls have decided that paying early ends the negotiations but it also can lead to rip off. If you paid for a half hour and only get 15 minutes that's a rip-off, did she steal your money or did you gave it to her too early? There is no accountability for their massage or Happy Endings, if you tip early. The only true accountability is on usasexguide reviews and if they don't read this forum the majority of mongers will get ripped off, when they tip early. So how do we end GPS in the massage parlors? It's easy, keep your money in your pocket until the services are done. How do we end GPS for escorts? That's easy too. They will give you the price before you arrive, if you don't like the price hang up. Learn how to walk out the door on an upsell, think with the big head.
No GPS for me![/QUOTE]I think Benz and I are in general agreement. I never pay much less tip an escort until the show is over. MPs, however, are a little different inasmuch as most require an upfront payment leaving the gratuity as the only discretionary item. I choose to be a repeat customer at most MPs so I know what I am getting and they know me. Accordingly, I choose to offer the tip before the performance. Probably not for everyone but works for me. When I am at my Florida place I have learned that I must negotiate a bit, particularly with escorts. Many Florida escorts will start the bidding at $150/ hhr and $250/ hr but will always drop to more reasonable rates when I threaten to hangup. In general I urge our brothers to heed the advice of Benz as he is usually correct on these matters. You may consider me an outlyer who experience and preferences may not match yours. Hobby hard but hobby safe.
Otto22.
[QUOTE=Otto22;3573733]Benz suggests taking this topic here so let's get started. I admit that I hate to negotiate so with escorts I will simply hangup or quit testing if they ask for more than I would consider. At a MP I also don't negotiate but I also don't make the girl guess how much tip I'm good for. I have had a several good appointments ruined by upsell and dickering. I usually go to MBD where they have clear tip jars where it is evident what you place there. I have had good experiences by putting my tip in the jar before the provider even enters the room. Everyone then knows what I expect and the provider knows what she will get. The contingency, at that point, is not whether I will tip but whether I will repeat. I respect Benz's point of view that the tip should only be paid after the service is complete, however, when you know the provider and the likely service, it seems only fair to put out what you will give so the provider knows how serious you are and will not try to upsell. At least that has been my experience.[/QUOTE]I do put the tip out up front and have had 50/50 results. Clearly I find out the hard way where "Not" to go back to. But it is a pita, and cost me $ I could have spent elsewhere productively I. E. Trista. Now that was a terrible experience, and I should have known better. I enjoy trying something new, but it can be risky when you lay cash down b / f service. I have my own personality demon of having a hard time walking away or confronting the situation while I am in the middle of the situation I. E. Not making a seen. I have been at this for a long time, I should learn by now. I need to take more of a Benz outlook on this, but it is difficult.
[QUOTE=Lakeshore1;3566077]Sweet. I'd love to get her contact info.[/QUOTE]Slim Tori has fantastic legs! I have not tried a haircut with her so thanks TOFTT. For a couple $$ you can move to her table & enjoy much more. Be punctual when you meet. Message me & I will give her digits.
[QUOTE=GweedoMumford;3574449]I do put the tip out up front and have had 50/50 results. Clearly I find out the hard way where "Not" to go back to. But it is a pita, and cost me $ I could have spent elsewhere productively I. E. Trista. Now that was a terrible experience, and I should have known better. I enjoy trying something new, but it can be risky when you lay cash down b / f service. I have my own personality demon of having a hard time walking away or confronting the situation while I am in the middle of the situation I. E. Not making a seen. I have been at this for a long time, I should learn by now. I need to take more of a Benz outlook on this, but it is difficult.[/QUOTE]You have to be ready to walk out with no ending or do it yourself. If the massage was too short or she didn't give the massage I was asking for then I know I'm not coming back anyway. When it comes to the ending, I tell her 20 she says 40 and I say I can just do it myself, by the 4th stroke she is usually doing it for 20. If she ends up watching me that's ok too, saved me 20 bucks, it would have been very mechanical anyway.
The GPS is literally in your hands.
Good luck on your next adventure and please report back on the out come.
Happy Hobbying and stay safe.
I must be missing something with the search function.
Can you search GR forums only, all I get is all US forums. It takes forever to weed through, looking for GR provider specific info.
Be in a specific GR forum, like Backpage Advertisers, then hit "search thread"
[QUOTE=GweedoMumford;3575357]I must be missing something with the search function.
Can you search GR forums only, all I get is all US forums. It takes forever to weed through, looking for GR provider specific info.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Monger01;3575440]Be in a specific GR forum, like Backpage Advertisers, then hit "search thread"
.[/QUOTE]I understand. I AM using an android phone.
Does not seem to work well for searches? Still shows from any city USA with the search criteria. I was searching for lacey. It showed all info from all cities.
Can someone with sugarbaby experience pm me some info. On that whole thing please? I have no idea what rate vs. Arrangement is even par for that.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Monger01;3575633]Can someone with sugarbaby experience pm me some info. On that whole thing please? I have no idea what rate vs. Arrangement is even par for that.[/QUOTE]Short answer: It's extremely variable. I've had everything from 75 for an hour at my place, to 400 overnight. And I almost always spend a bit more by buying dinner, or a gift of some kind, or taking her shopping.
Here's a much longer discussion, which I posted a while back on another board.
[QUOTE]I've been using SA for a couple of years on and off. It's mostly replaced the hobby boards for me, largely because the GR area is so thin with hobby providers anyway.
The time investment is certainly higher on SA in my experience. I go through a search a couple of times a week, send messages to maybe 5-10 girls, and if I'm lucky 2 of them reply. Then it's back-and-forth chatting, can last hours or days depending on the girl. I generally try to talk them into a get-to-know-you public meeting (coffee, lunch, something like that) with little or no money involved (usually zero). At that meeting, try to set up a future real date. At any of these stages you might just stop hearing from her, or get a last-minute flake-out. So yeah, a lot of effort and time investment.
The payoff is that once you get a good one, they're *really* good. Right now I've got two: a 28 year old nurse, about a 6 in looks but 10+ in the sack; and a 25 year old teacher who is about an 8 in looks and 7 in bed...but I'm training her :). Don't want to post specific amounts, but we spend entire dates including several hours of playtime for what I'd spend on a half-hour traditional hobby appt. Last year, there was a 20 year old student that I saw for nearly 9 months before she moved away. It takes work and you'll run into lots of dead ends on the way, but when you eventually hit the jackpot you're going to love it.
You do run across more traditional arrangements. A couple of months ago I saw two different Asian girls...one Korean, one Vietnamese...who were basically just using SA as an alternative to Backpage. (I'm sure there's plenty of non-Asians doing the same...these are just the ones that caught my eye.) Those were fine appts, but neither was good enough that I wanted to go back. I mentioned this and other hobby boards to both of them, by the way, but far as I know they didn't follow up.
And as with any hobbying method, you run into scammers. Mostly you can avoid these simply by not ever putting up any money before you meet in person. Occasionally you'll get girls who ask for significant payments on a first date with no physical stuff...I avoid those, too. Maybe some of them are legit but most won't be. And then occasionally you get real pros who actually get you close to the actual deed...I had a couple of real hotties come out to my place and do a lot of flirting, saying all the right things, only to dash on me once I let my guard down. In retrospect the warning signs were all there, but the little head was in charge. That's the only real problem I've ever had, though. Keep your head in the game, same as you would with anyone from the Internet at large, and you'll be fine.
Overall, I'm very happy with SA as a hobbying method. I'm willing to spend the time and put up with the dead ends to get to the occasional real gem. I understand that's not what everyone is looking for, but for me it works great.[/QUOTE](I know you said PM, but I figure others probably have the same question. Feel free to PM me if you have specific questions.).