The Prickyard

[QUOTE=PhoneGuy07;3430879]After reading a ton on here I realize how condescending most of his replies are. As a senior member he should be out to help as much as possible not just be a total d* to anybody under 50 or so posts. Feel bad for the guy to b such an toughy tougherson online. You think some of his visits would have released some of that tension. Believe it or not in life you will often run into people who know less about a subject than you do. Rather than being snooty educating them improves all levels of aptitude. Just try it.[/QUOTE]The monger TA2 who you quoted is a senior member and has over 440 posts, not under 50. He has been around since, well before me. In the past I was harsh with newbies and A2 told me to cut it out. Thus I started the "First Time Posters and Newbies" Blog and the "The Good and the Dirty" blog, to help all the new mongers with important information. If you research back you will notice that TA2 likes to pick fights with hearsay and BS when he has absolutely no proof of his written words. Just like he did in regards to this one. If you have read the Newbies blog and have questions then ask. We are all in this together and as long as I am treated with respect and good providers are treated with respect then I will respect you. If someone wants to attack me with unsubstantiated BS then I will fight back. So let me know how I can help educate you to improve everyone's aptitude.

Thank you for your post.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3430813]I won't knowingly go thru agencies or handlers because if a chick is too dumb or lazy to manage her own pussy I don't want to fuck them, my ATF the original Journey had a scheduler, however; I bypassed that. And her scheduler sent uncle to visit her, good job![/QUOTE]I didn't realize that all of the smart independent ones that manage their own pussy have never been visited by uncle! Even your other ATF's!

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3431119]The monger TA2 who you quoted is a senior member and has over 440 posts, not under 50. He has been around since, well before me. In the past I was harsh with newbies and A2 told me to cut it out. Thus I started the "First Time Posters and Newbies" Blog and the "The Good and the Dirty" blog, to help all the new mongers with important information. If you research back you will notice that TA2 likes to pick fights with hearsay and BS when he has absolutely no proof of his written words. Just like he did in regards to this one. If you have read the Newbies blog and have questions then ask. We are all in this together and as long as I am treated with respect and good providers are treated with respect then I will respect you. If someone wants to attack me with unsubstantiated BS then I will fight back. So let me know how I can help educate you to improve everyone's aptitude.

Thank you for your post.[/QUOTE]I am a newbie, who has lurked on this board, for a while now. When I did post, I got taken to task by the Senior Members. When I stepped back and looked at things. I realized that they were doing this for my benefit.

I haven't contributed anything of note to this conversation. And as such, shouldn't be entitled to any information shared here. Just because you create an account here, doesn't mean you're entitled to all the wisdom that is available. You have to earn it. But, there is a great deal of free info here, if you know where to look. It's been said countless times, RTTFF.

I have yet to take the leap and contact a provider. But when I do, I'll at least know what to look for. And I only have the Senior Members to thank for that.

So, TOFTT, come back here and give a review. Do that about 5 times and you'll earn your respect here. If you're not willing to do that, then go back to being a lurker and shut up.

[QUOTE=PhoneGuy07;3430879]After reading a ton on here I realize how condescending most of his replies are. As a senior member he should be out to help as much as possible not just be a total d* to anybody under 50 or so posts. Feel bad for the guy to b such an toughy tougherson online. You think some of his visits would have released some of that tension. Believe it or not in life you will often run into people who know less about a subject than you do. Rather than being snooty educating them improves all levels of aptitude. Just try it.[/QUOTE]When I first got on USASG, I wondered "who does this Freckle Freak think he is?" But instead of trying to take him down a notch, I waited and paid attention. Over time I started seeing a different side. He's helped a lot of people and not all have been seniors.

Turns out, if you take the time to get to know him, he's an alright guy.

He is harsh with newbies who refuse to do some research. There's a good reason. This is not a hobby for anyone who won't take the time to learn the rules. People who don't bother to do their research end up robbed or sleeping at uncle's house.

There are those who don't like him, for whatever reasons. If I was someone wanting to establish credentials and increase my options in the hobby, I'd give some careful consideration before choosing a side.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3431026]You are not only blind but you are stupid! You posted in the UTR Blog, I deleted it from that blog and quoted you word for word in the Prickyard. I even suggested that you post about her in the escort reviews thread. The "Escorts Review" thread is where well known UTR Escorts belong once they become established. They are Escorts, but still UTR because of the way they conduct business. So since it's my blog Stacy, JoJo, Little Nicki all belong in the "Escorts Review" thread because they are now well known UTR Escorts. To verify this read my post below from the UTR Blog.

Oh, wait you figured that out because you posted about Stacy on 6/13/17 in the Escorts Review thread, see the below post.

You are the one that likes to make things personal. Maybe you should shut the fuck up because every time you post something you just look like an idiot. Get out while you are behind and stick with your CL girl. Oh, I have never contacted Stacy nor did I ever want to because she's not my type and I didn't want to screw up your good thing with an active H addict. BTW looks like you two made up from your helpful post. Did she fuck you for free and you just paid the pharmacy bill directly?[/QUOTE]You're not even worth responding to, but no, FTR, I haven't seen her in months, just like I stated there. But she's supposedly clean, so I wanted to set that straight.

I don't play in this yard much. For the most part I find it useless. Rarely has anyone said "you're right, I'm wrong. Sorry". I also find it kind of sad that this thread has been the most popular thread as of late. Hobbies are supposed to be fun and here we are in the prickyard. Let me also remind you that there is a difference between the threads and the user blogs. There are 9 or 10 active user blogs moderated by 6 or 7 different mongers. If there's a subject matter that you'd like to discuss or you want your own blog where you can be the moderator, go ahead. No other monger can stop you. Everyone wins.

Happy hobbying,

Dave.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3431621]I don't play in this yard much. For the most part I find it useless. Rarely has anyone said "you're right, I'm wrong. Sorry". I also find it kind of sad that this thread has been the most popular thread as of late. Hobbies are supposed to be fun and here we are in the prickyard. Let me also remind you that there is a difference between the threads and the user blogs. There are 9 or 10 active user blogs moderated by 6 or 7 different mongers. If there's a subject matter that you'd like to discuss or you want your own blog where you can be the moderator, go ahead. No other monger can stop you. Everyone wins.

Happy hobbying,

Dave.[/QUOTE]You're right. It is weird how even something so enjoyable can lead to shit like this.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3431205]I didn't realize that all of the smart independent ones that manage their own pussy have never been visited by uncle! Even your other ATF's![/QUOTE]Any provider can be visited by uncle, if they're not smart, the point is a handler should be checking folks out very good, or there's no point in them handling.

There is a popular idea on here that giving up personal information to facilitate verification increases safety on both sides of the transaction. I agree completely that it significantly reduces risk for the provider on many fronts. I totally fail to see how that makes me any safer.

I am giving my personal details to some one I know almost nothing about. Maybe not even the provider, but an agency or handler too. How many will see it? I have no idea what they may do with it, how it will be stored and secured, and no control over it. That opens up several risks to me personally and maybe legally. We've all seen providers who seemed great and reliable, even for extended periods of time, only to later face personal issues and change for the worse. I cannot see any benefit to me that outweighs those risks.

Can someone explain how giving up my personal info makes me safer? And why is it one sided? If I ask for the providers real name it's seen as out of line. Maybe I'd be more comfortable with it if it went both ways.

It's tough to get a "send a photo" from a provider, and get turned down because we say "no. " To each their own, I guess, but I'm in agreement. This might ruin it for me with future providers, but rarely if ever do I ever send anything besides text, never personal info, RARELY a photo that's masked. I have a second real phone number/SIM, email, and cash tied to my alter ego Ron BurgIndy. If I get turned down by a particular provider, so be it, there are other nice ladies who will see someone like me with a gentleman's track record. The hardest part was getting established in the first place.

Ron

[QUOTE=Playwithme483;3431993]There is a popular idea on here that giving up personal information to facilitate verification increases safety on both sides of the transaction. I agree completely that it significantly reduces risk for the provider on many fronts. I totally fail to see how that makes me any safer.

I am giving my personal details to some one I know almost nothing about. Maybe not even the provider, but an agency or handler too. How many will see it? I have no idea what they may do with it, how it will be stored and secured, and no control over it. That opens up several risks to me personally and maybe legally. We've all seen providers who seemed great and reliable, even for extended periods of time, only to later face personal issues and change for the worse. I cannot see any benefit to me that outweighs those risks.

Can someone explain how giving up my personal info makes me safer? And why is it one sided? If I ask for the providers real name it's seen as out of line. Maybe I'd be more comfortable with it if it went both ways.[/QUOTE]

To clarify my post below, I'm not saying providers shouldn't verify, or do whatever they need to do to feel more secure. I certainly understand their need to mitigate risks. It's a free market and they can take whatever approach they like. I'm just saying I see no benefit to me.

Anonymity is one of the primary risk mitigation measures available to me. The benefits would have to be significant and immediate for me to give it up.

[QUOTE=Playwithme483;3432104]To clarify my post below, I'm not saying providers shouldn't verify, or do whatever they need to do to feel more secure. I certainly understand their need to mitigate risks. It's a free market and they can take whatever approach they like. I'm just saying I see no benefit to me.

Anonymity is one of the primary risk mitigation measures available to me. The benefits would have to be significant and immediate for me to give it up.[/QUOTE]I'm sure someone will post a much longer explanation than this, but in summary, if she's safe, I. E. , not getting in trouble with her uncle, then you're much less likely to meet that uncle when you arrive at your location. Ask the guys from the SP8 circle how much verification the original provider, who ended up giving up her profile to that family, did prior to that. Probably like none. That's how she got busted, which led to giving up her profile, which led to the orange Bologna crew's first club meeting.

And yes, I'm leaving a whole hell of a lot of story out, as I don't even remember most of the details anymore. There was more conjecture than actual fact for many months after that event.

That said, the old Miami Companions had all my info when they went down, and so did another agency that approached their size. I am not comfortable using one any longer for that very reason. Not that my info can be used to charge me, but rather shame me, as has been done in other cities in the past.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3432272]I'm sure someone will post a much longer explanation than this, but in summary, if she's safe, I. E. , not getting in trouble with her uncle, then you're much less likely to meet that uncle when you arrive at your location. Ask the guys from the SP8 circle how much verification the original provider, who ended up giving up her profile to that family, did prior to that. Probably like none. That's how she got busted, which led to giving up her profile, which led to the orange Bologna crew's first club meeting.

And yes, I'm leaving a whole hell of a lot of story out, as I don't even remember most of the details anymore. There was more conjecture than actual fact for many months after that event.

That said, the old Miami Companions had all my info when they went down, and so did another agency that approached their size. I am not comfortable using one any longer for that very reason. Not that my info can be used to charge me, but rather shame me, as has been done in other cities in the past.[/QUOTE]It's easy to check out a name and a face nowadays, and it's just as easy to create a fake identity, which pretty much makes all of the "I need your real name" stuff stupid, ever watch Catfish? The best way for providers to stay safe and for us to stay safe is references.

[QUOTE=TryinAgain2;3432272]I'm sure someone will post a much longer explanation than this, but in summary, if she's safe, I. E. , not getting in trouble with her uncle, then you're much less likely to meet that uncle when you arrive at your location. Ask the guys from the SP8 circle how much verification the original provider, who ended up giving up her profile to that family, did prior to that. Probably like none. That's how she got busted, which led to giving up her profile, which led to the orange Bologna crew's first club meeting.

And yes, I'm leaving a whole hell of a lot of story out, as I don't even remember most of the details anymore. There was more conjecture than actual fact for many months after that event.

That said, the old Miami Companions had all my info when they went down, and so did another agency that approached their size. I am not comfortable using one any longer for that very reason. Not that my info can be used to charge me, but rather shame me, as has been done in other cities in the past.[/QUOTE]And ladies with rigorous verifying practices still manage to get busted sometimes.

[QUOTE=Bob0324;3430813]I won't knowingly go thru agencies or handlers because if a chick is too dumb or lazy to manage her own pussy I don't want to fuck them, my ATF the original Journey had a scheduler, however; I bypassed that. And her scheduler sent uncle to visit her, good job![/QUOTE]Doesn't seem very nice.