Older Dawn ripped me off, didn't deliver services that were promised. No finish, but she still took all the money.
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Older Dawn ripped me off, didn't deliver services that were promised. No finish, but she still took all the money.
[QUOTE=Dmurray;3306009]Older Dawn ripped me off, didn't deliver services that were promised. No finish, but she still took all the money.[/QUOTE]Is this the Dawn that has an incall location near 63rd & Orchard?
[QUOTE=BadGr54;3306156]Is this the Dawn that has an incall location near 63rd & Orchard?[/QUOTE]Yes, that's her.
[QUOTE=Dmurray;3306344]Yes, that's her.[/QUOTE]She's nuttier than a fruit cake. I first like hot young spinners. I call the old bag it's 9:00 am She says call back at 11:00, I just woke up, I think np I'll hit the gym for 2 hrs, call her after showering it's 11:45 pm. A guy answered, pretend I had wrong number, call back at 12:30 pm She now picks up says can you call back at 3:00 pm She's going to take a nap she's been up all night, my response, get bent, stay polite & say bye. She sounds like a nut job. No wonder she's hungry. The guy that answered is probably the same old drunk in parking lot.
She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.
She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.
Hey Soccerfan 4245 is this the dawn that we once knew and was kind of goofy? OG2 Jim.
[QUOTE=LithoFox;3618034]She is the Asian who came in seemed good had a drink seen donation asked for condom and said she prefers hers and said mine was open BS brand new asked me to walk her to her car and get hers and took off. Red Grand Am plate number available.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link or more information on her?
Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much risk.
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much riskI had been seeing her twice a week or so for 2 months. It had become fairly routine for me to pay her upfront so she could cover her room before we went to my place. [ / QOUTE].
I PM'd some of the guys I referred to her, but this makes me realize I should have posted a report for all.
I had been seeing her on average twice a week at 100 per and thought we had a level of trust. I routinely paid her upfront so she cover her room for the day.
The Wed before Labor Day I did exactly that. She came back out crying and said she needed another $100 to cover the security deposit as her debit card wasn't working. I gave her that as well. She disappeared back inside and didn't come back out. Eventually she texted and said she had to change rooms and would be a bit. She didn't get back to me until after my time window had closed. She promised she would make it up to me. All previous experiences had been positive so I trusted her.
No call on Thurs, but Fri morning I get a call. She's in hysterics, has no money for her room, prices are up because all the Harley people are in town and most other hotels are full for the same reason.
I called the hotel myself and they verified they had one room left at $180/ height. I met her and she came out crying and hyperventilating. What a great actress.
I gave her the money and she disappeared back inside, then pulled the same "I need to change rooms" crap. This time I offered to come in and help, but she said no, the hotel was already getting suspicious of her.
Hours passed and at 7 PM she finally messaged me saying she was sorry, she was so exhausted by the time she was done moving she had fallen asleep. I offered to come get her, no response and that's pretty much the last I heard from her. She's into me for over $400.
To add insult to injury, reading reviews here and elsewhere over Labor Day weekend, she had seen someone else Wed afternoon, after I had given her $220, at the DEEPLY discounted rate of $60. On Friday, after I had given her $200 she saw 2 other guys while I was waiting to hear from her. One at $60 and one at $80.
She did reach out to me about 6 weeks ago saying she was sorry, she missed me, and she wanted to make it right. I told her that would be great and asked what her plan was to make it right. Still waiting on a response.
She's a hot little spinner and a great fuck, but now we have several reports of interrupted sessions and another report of a cash and dash or scam similar to what I experienced. See her at your own risk and I wouldn't pay until services are provided satisfactorily.
There comes a point in a quality providers career, when the habits outstrip the flow of money coming in, even when it is substantial. I hate to say, the habit, whatever it is, always wins. Truth, integrity, honesty, all play second fiddle. I know many have said this over time, but, trust is not something that should ever be given in even low to moderate levels to any provider, no matter how they have acted in the past. We always seem to get burned in the end.
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3629909][QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much riskI had been seeing her twice a week or so for 2 months. It had become fairly routine for me to pay her upfront so she could cover her room before we went to my place. [ / QOUTE].
I PM'd some of the guys I referred to her, but this makes me realize I should have posted a report for all.
I had been seeing her on average twice a week at 100 per and thought we had a level of trust. I routinely paid her upfront so she cover her room for the day.
The Wed before Labor Day I did exactly that. She came back out crying and said she needed another $100 to cover the security deposit as her debit card wasn't working. I gave her that as well. She disappeared back inside and didn't come back out. Eventually she texted and said she had to change rooms and would be a bit. She didn't get back to me until after my time window had closed. She promised she would make it up to me. All previous experiences had been positive so I trusted her.
No call on Thurs, but Fri morning I get a call. She's in hysterics, has no money for her room, prices are up because all the Harley people are in town and most other hotels are full for the same reason.
I called the hotel myself and they verified they had one room left at $180/ height. I met her and she came out crying and hyperventilating. What a great actress.
I gave her the money and she disappeared back inside, then pulled the same "I need to change rooms" crap. This time I offered to come in and help, but she said no, the hotel was already getting suspicious of her.
Hours passed and at 7 PM she finally messaged me saying she was sorry, she was so exhausted by the time she was done moving she had fallen asleep. I offered to come get her, no response and that's pretty much the last I heard from her. She's into me for over $400.
To add insult to injury, reading reviews here and elsewhere over Labor Day weekend, she had seen someone else Wed afternoon, after I had given her $220, at the DEEPLY discounted rate of $60. On Friday, after I had given her $200 she saw 2 other guys while I was waiting to hear from her. One at $60 and one at $80.
She did reach out to me about 6 weeks ago saying she was sorry, she missed me, and she wanted to make it right. I told her that would be great and asked what her plan was to make it right. Still waiting on a response.
She's a hot little spinner and a great fuck, but now we have several reports of interrupted sessions and another report of a cash and dash or scam similar to what I experienced. See her at your own risk and I wouldn't pay until services are provided satisfactorily. [ / QUOTE].
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3627654]Saw this on the oTER SITE.
Crystal.
This wasn't the first time I've seen this provider, so to me this was hopefully going to be just another fun time. Unfortunately things did not turn out as such. She usually will make you wait a bit while she leaves the room. This time though she did not come back after taking the donation. Definitely would normally suggest her but after that, too much risk.[/QUOTE]There are enough on here that will take it as a challenge or maybe a sign to take advantage and see her anyway. It is a recurring story on here when someone reports a ripoff and everyone wants the contact info so they can get in line. I thought the ripoff alerts were a warning to stay away and the lack of calls may teach them a lesson but from what I have seen it gets them more.
[QUOTE=LoveSmallPerky;3630022]There are enough on here that will take it as a challenge or maybe a sign to take advantage and see her anyway. It is a recurring story on here when someone reports a ripoff and everyone wants the contact info so they can get in line. I thought the ripoff alerts were a warning to stay away and the lack of calls may teach them a lesson but from what I have seen it gets them more.[/QUOTE]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.
[QUOTE=Ps1999;3630040]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.[/QUOTE]That is usually my scenario also. It is almost to the point that it may do better to just give them a horrible review to keep steer others away since a ripoff report just gets them more calls.
[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3629986]There comes a point in a quality providers career, when the habits outstrip the flow of money coming in, even when it is substantial. I hate to say, the habit, whatever it is, always wins. Truth, integrity, honesty, all play second fiddle. I know many have said this over time, but, trust is not something that should ever be given in even low to moderate levels to any provider, no matter how they have acted in the past. We always seem to get burned in the end.[/QUOTE]You're spot on Bro, and the killer is that after 25 years in the hobby I KNOW this. She just played me like a fiddle. No rush full GFE, virtually everything on the table. First few visits didn't even ask for the donation until after. Then just part of the donation up front to cover the cheap rent at the notel she was at. Walked me right down the primrose path and I dutifully followed right along.
The real irony is, as you mentioned, in forgetting the habit always comes first. I was giving her great reviews, steering guys to her right and left, and by seeing her twice a week I was on pace to drop $10,000+ a year on her. She burned all that for just over $400, right here, right now.
HS.
[QUOTE=Ps1999;3630040]I've had my share of ripoffs, but the ones that get to me are the ones I became a regular of. Theres 2 that I remember everything about. Seen each at least a dozen times and always tipped and 'helped' them out. Then when its time to even up. Gone or no calls returned. Not really sure of my point here but I was able to learn from my generosity and not put myself in the position over a good piece of ass in a while now.[/QUOTE]That's what I've done with a well known escort who isn't mentioned too often here. Begging she needs funds for a room. I just gifted her 2 nights at the notel and moved on. Didn't want to "take it out in trade" and haven't gone back either. Told her was last time and don't expect it again. Less drama that way.
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3630123]You're spot on Bro, and the killer is that after 25 years in the hobby I KNOW this. She just played me like a fiddle. No rush full GFE, virtually everything on the table. First few visits didn't even ask for the donation until after. Then just part of the donation up front to cover the cheap rent at the notel she was at. Walked me right down the primrose path and I dutifully followed right along.
The real irony is, as you mentioned, in forgetting the habit always comes first. I was giving her great reviews, steering guys to her right and left, and by seeing her twice a week I was on pace to drop $10,000+ a year on her. She burned all that for just over $400, right here, right now.
HS.[/QUOTE]"Trust but verify".
[QUOTE=OldBear;3630239]"Trust but verify".[/QUOTE]What would happen if we put them on COD! Let them know that you want to meet her good reviews, but because of the Cash and Dash and etc. You will pay after services are complete.
Most likely they would say no. Until it starts to hurt the flow of donations.
Just thinking what happens to real businesses.
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3630473]What would happen if we put them on COD! Let them know that you want to meet her good reviews, but because of the Cash and Dash and etc. You will pay after services are complete.
Most likely they would say no. Until it starts to hurt the flow of donations.
Just thinking what happens to real businesses.[/QUOTE]Wish we could do that. I prefer playing elsewhere because most of the local talent is scary.
[QUOTE=OldBear;3631430]Wish we could do that. I prefer playing elsewhere because most of the local talent is scary.[/QUOTE]Start an Escrow website for the industry.
[QUOTE=GunSmoke;3630473]What would happen if we put them on COD! Let them know that you want to meet her good reviews, but because of the Cash and Dash and etc. You will pay after services are complete.
Most likely they would say no. Until it starts to hurt the flow of donations.
Just thinking what happens to real businesses.[/QUOTE]It won't work. Don't forget that trust is a 2- way thing. Most of them don't trust mongers too. I've heard a lot of stories about clients low balling and ripping them off too. Best thing is to go with the tried and trusted. Even at that you won't be immune from an occasional scam but the chances will be less.
Not me but found on Craigslist. I have seen her ads before but never contacted her.
If a younger white girl (a cording to the person that put up the add, the pics are a few years out of date so who knows) says she is hosting on 20th and juneau, every flag should be waiving. You need to know where you are going, and that is a VERY nasty area. We all take risks with this hobby, but there are ways of mitigating risks.
[QUOTE=Negan;3639898]Not me but found on Craigslist. I have seen her ads before but never contacted her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigMilwaukee;3640582]If a younger white girl (a cording to the person that put up the add, the pics are a few years out of date so who knows) says she is hosting on 20th and juneau, every flag should be waiving. You need to know where you are going, and that is a VERY nasty area. We all take risks with this hobby, but there are ways of mitigating risks.[/QUOTE]I responded to her CL posting Friday night and we texted back and forth a bit. She sent me this picture. Said car date or her place and oral would be $50. She said she was on 20th and Highland and that brought a very quick end to the conversation. LOL Last four of her number are 1862. Go Bucky!! OFG out.
I just posted a report in the CL section since that's where we met. The title of my post is: "Rip Off. Kinda (Kayla)".
Post # 2461 dated 3-19-18.
I included pics in the report.
I didn't get robbed and / or beat up and it wasn't cash & dash, but it might as well have been.
Read my sad saga & memorize her pics & digits so you don't get ripped off too.
Copy and pasted from the craigslist thread (search Sable there for her pictures):
"So thanks to a member on here I got her number. Wasn't able to hook up with her (was planning to tonight) but a friend did instead (not a poster here). He isn't explicit in his texts but said it was clearly implied some fun would be had and she sent him a sexy pic of her with her boobs hanging out. When he went there, she quickly took his money and then said only a massage is available, nothing more and that he couldn't have his money back. He said her hands were dirty and stained. After a couple minutes she kicked him out. She gave him some of his money back but when he asked for even a little more back since it was clear she mislead him and was robbing him, she screamed for him to get out and physically pushed him out of her apartment and threatened to get her roommate. Definitely AVOID. Her number is (262) 236-5731. Stay safe guys. ".
I've seen crystal at least 20 times in the past 12 months. She was absolutely the best 9 months ago and was still pretty good last month. She use to do this thing when she was on top wher she would tighten up her pussy as I was cumming. Unbelievably talented.
She has gotten progressively worse from bad breath, spending 10 minutes in the bathroom, asking me to pick up Newport's, then food, then lighters. The last session she asked for another. 4 as I was walking out the door which was really awkward.
She moved now to a shady motel off of national and highway 100 - golden * She again asked me to pick her Newport's on the way which I always do. I called her in the lot asking for the room #. She then says she will meet me outside. She then walks up to my car, and says can you hand me the money incognito so I can pay for the room. I then hand her $, she then walks in the office, I wait 5 min, call her and no answer. I then call her again 10 min later and still no answer. I finally left after waiting there for about 25 min.
Hunting Streets warned me of this 6 months ago, but she is a great fuck. Dammit, I already miss her and her amazing tight body but her habit is getting worse and just not worth the risks. I'm more upset of having to finding a new atf.
[QUOTE=HawkEye11;3809284]I've seen crystal at least 20 times in the past 12 months. She was absolutely the best 9 months ago and was still pretty good last month. She use to do this thing when she was on top wher she would tighten up her pussy as I was cumming. Unbelievably talented.
She has gotten progressively worse from bad breath, spending 10 minutes in the bathroom, asking me to pick up Newport's, then food, then lighters. The last session she asked for another. 4 as I was walking out the door which was really awkward.
She moved now to a shady motel off of national and highway 100 - golden * She again asked me to pick her Newport's on the way which I always do. I called her in the lot asking for the room #. She then says she will meet me outside. She then walks up to my car, and says can you hand me the money incognito so I can pay for the room. I then hand her $, she then walks in the office, I wait 5 min, call her and no answer. I then call her again 10 min later and still no answer. I finally left after waiting there for about 25 min.
Hunting Streets warned me of this 6 months ago, but she is a great fuck. Dammit, I already miss her and her amazing tight body but her habit is getting worse and just not worth the risks. I'm more upset of having to finding a new atf.[/QUOTE]It is indeed unfortunate to watch them go downhill and resort to burning regulars. There's several similar reports on EM as well.
HS.
[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3809307]It is indeed unfortunate to watch them go downhill and resort to burning regulars. There's several similar reports on EM as well.
HS.[/QUOTE]Damn, and I was just going to ask if she is still around. I'll have to pass on this one. Man the good ones are few and far between now.
[QUOTE=HawkEye11;3809284]I've seen crystal at least 20 times in the past 12 months. She was absolutely the best 9 months ago and was still pretty good last month. She use to do this thing when she was on top wher she would tighten up her pussy as I was cumming. Unbelievably talented.
She has gotten progressively worse from bad breath, spending 10 minutes in the bathroom, asking me to pick up Newport's, then food, then lighters. The last session she asked for another. 4 as I was walking out the door which was really awkward.
She moved now to a shady motel off of national and highway 100 - golden * She again asked me to pick her Newport's on the way which I always do. I called her in the lot asking for the room #. She then says she will meet me outside. She then walks up to my car, and says can you hand me the money incognito so I can pay for the room. I then hand her $, she then walks in the office, I wait 5 min, call her and no answer. I then call her again 10 min later and still no answer. I finally left after waiting there for about 25 min.
Hunting Streets warned me of this 6 months ago, but she is a great fuck. Dammit, I already miss her and her amazing tight body but her habit is getting worse and just not worth the risks. I'm more upset of having to finding a new atf.[/QUOTE]I have also seen her a few times in the last few months. I agree it is getting worse each time. Similar experience for me, where she always wants you to bring her something first, after you tell her you are already there. Newport Lights sounds familiar. One time it was Skittles. Even when you return after picking up the items, the wait can be long. She obviously sends us out to get things because she is not ready and is stalling for time.
I also agree she is a great ride, but definitely high priced when you consider the wasted time and aggravation. I am also hoping to find a new favorite.
Gas Out.
Don't know if this is technically a rip off since I'm the one who kicked her out of the car but I will put it here anyway because it's ridiculous. Young blonde WSW with a name neck tattoo. She's been around for awhile now and probably walks G once in awhile. I received her number and gave her a call. Picked her up in the general area of 19th and Rogers, somewhere over there. Good conversation on the way to the spot seemed like a lovely girl. Negotiated a BBBJ for. 30. Started off with a really nice BBBJ and then out of nowhere 30-45 seconds into it she stops and tells me I have to finish myself off. What? I told her I don't pay girls to jack off in front of them. I asked her to please continue in which she refused. I kicked her out of the car on the spot. 20 minutes later I received a 3 page text telling me what a terrible nasty little dick MF I was, LOL. Apparently I'm also lucky she made it home safe because she was being watched by some people, and "my ass would have been grass" In the text she was also bragging about taking my. 30. LOL Holy bi-polar batman.
I posted this in the wrong section
[QUOTE=GasolineMan;3810283]I have also seen her a few times in the last few months. I agree it is getting worse each time. Similar experience for me, where she always wants you to bring her something first, after you tell her you are already there. Newport Lights sounds familiar. One time it was Skittles. Even when you return after picking up the items, the wait can be long. She obviously sends us out to get things because she is not ready and is stalling for time.
I also agree she is a great ride, but definitely high priced when you consider the wasted time and aggravation. I am also hoping to find a new favorite.
Gas Out.[/QUOTE]She started her downhill slide a year ago. Its too bad.
[QUOTE=GPSlikesy;3824574]She started her downhill slide a year ago. Its too bad.[/QUOTE]That's a shame. I saw her only once about a year ago. Once she finally came outside to bring me to her room it was great. The only reason I only saw her once was I absolutely hated sitting in that empty motel parking lot for what seemed to be over an hour, where the only people coming and going were other mongers.
Don't be tempted. If you're highly masochistic and suicidal, fuck, go ahead. If you've had both hands removed and just have those old school pincher claws, use those to jack off. DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES fall prey to this thieving um, witch. She will short time you, she will steal from you, she's as homely as gonorrhea on wheat toast. I've seen better bodies on a rusted out Edsel. Of course, if you like baby damage, you could plant some of the larger root vegetables in the folds in her stomach. [URL]https://backpage.ly/dating/women-looking-for-men/mz-funmaker_i4376934.[/URL] It's scum like her that makes me believe we should allow abortion up to and including the 148th trimester.
You've been warned.
Coochie (not proud of that mistake, but will never make it again) Eater.
God Bless You All.
[URL]https://backpage.ly/dating/women-looking-for-men/mz-funmaker_i4376934[/URL]
[QUOTE=CoochieEater;3835839]Don't be tempted. If you're highly masochistic and suicidal, fuck, go ahead. If you've had both hands removed and just have those old school pincher claws, use those to jack off. DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES fall prey to this thieving um, witch. She will short time you, she will steal from you, she's as homely as gonorrhea on wheat toast. I've seen better bodies on a rusted out Edsel. Of course, if you like baby damage, you could plant some of the larger root vegetables in the folds in her stomach. [URL]https://backpage.ly/dating/women-looking-for-men/mz-funmaker_i4376934.[/URL] It's scum like her that makes me believe we should allow abortion up to and including the 148th trimester.
You've been warned.
Coochie (not proud of that mistake, but will never make it again) Eater.
God Bless You All.[/QUOTE]
The photos are TGTBT but just in case the provider has a nice body and personality I'm in. That only happens rarely and this wasn't one of those times. Here is the scam in this in this case.
You text and will get a prompt response directing you to a web site with "more of her real photos and reviews". You then are directed to watch a video on the site which is basically a reading of text slides. When you text her back, she directs you to another site so she can confirm that you are a real person and are to buy a webcam session with her for the confirmation. The cost is $26. I didn't go for it.
How do I know it is a scam and not someone being careful?
1. The photos are obviously TGTBT especially at her price of $100/ hr. Running a special so hurry!
2. She asks what city you are in so you are not wasting her time. I searched her number and concurrent ads are being run in multiple cities.
3. After giving the city, I ask for the incall location. She never answers but makes a non-related request or statement.
4. I tried using different texting apps. The responses are scripted and pre-programmed. It may be a bot setup to give standard replies which is why you get fast, long, but identical responses.
Here is the link.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/wisconsin/milwaukee/female-escorts/1251093[/URL]
She got arrested and her family got her phone. Her sister tried to extort money from me. BEWARE!
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b2a7e4a-39a5-40e6-e3a9-adf8f6dc29c8
[QUOTE=Stevemilw67;3860078]She got arrested and her family got her phone. Her sister tried to extort money from me. BEWARE!
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b2a7e4a-39a5-40e6-e3a9-adf8f6dc29c8[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, she is hot as fuck. Curious, arrested for what? She's not really in Boca Raton, then?
[QUOTE=Stevemilw67;3860078]She got arrested and her family got her phone. Her sister tried to extort money from me. BEWARE!
https://www.seeking.com/member/7b2a7e4a-39a5-40e6-e3a9-adf8f6dc29c8[/QUOTE]
One rule I try to follow is never give out any information (including pictures) that can be easily traced to my real identity. Ideally, when I communicate with a provider, I use a throwaway phone number. And I recycle them constantly. The disadvantage: Sometimes I lose touch with providers I want to see again. I need to re-establish who I am. And there's so much general distrust, they find that alarming. If there's someone I want to stay in contact with, I let them know this and arrange for an easy way to let them know it's me. "Hi, it's me: Darth Craig" or whatever.