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[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;2186286]From what I was told there is a new building owner and the rent was raised. Fees were raised to cover increased rent. Again I say with only one or two quality providers, I can't imagine the clientele will continue to come in and new clientele would likely dry up all together. It's a combination of an inferior product (generally) and prices. Laws of supply and demand will prevail.[/QUOTE]I'm not doubting that's what you're told, but I'd be willing to bet that it's bullshit. Here's why: Business has been slow there because she lost Miranda and Nikki. Miranda was a little chunky but made up for it with her big, nice boobs. Nikki was a little hottie, pure and simple. Suzy lost a LOT of customers when she let those two slip through her fingers to go on to better (for them) things. Now she's stuck with older, fatter females and the only one there who is hot is Michelle. Suzy keeps hiring subpar girls. It's not working. And since she's a moron (based on the aforementioned) she probably thinks raising prices is the way to keep her revenue stream going when business is slow. As most of us understand, that's exactly backwards in a capitalist economy. So that's my guess based on knowing what's going on there. She needs to recruit some of the girls from local clubs who are being chased away by management. There'd be a line at the door every day.
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[QUOTE=Jsc629;2186436]I'm not doubting that's what you're told, but I'd be willing to bet that it's bullshit. Here's why: Business has been slow there because she lost Miranda and Nikki. Miranda was a little chunky but made up for it with her big, nice boobs. Nikki was a little hottie, pure and simple. Suzy lost a LOT of customers when she let those two slip through her fingers to go on to better (for them) things. Now she's stuck with older, fatter females and the only one there who is hot is Michelle. Suzy keeps hiring subpar girls. It's not working. And since she's a moron (based on the aforementioned) she probably thinks raising prices is the way to keep her revenue stream going when business is slow. As most of us understand, that's exactly backwards in a capitalist economy. So that's my guess based on knowing what's going on there. She needs to recruit some of the girls from local clubs who are being chased away by management. There'd be a line at the door every day.[/QUOTE]Miranda was always fun. I don't think I ever saw Nikki. Any idea if they are anywhere we might frequent?
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Crystal
Visited Crystal last week and got Nancy. Fairly attractive woman. As Lex had mentioned she wears very very tight "booty shorts" making more than caressing her fine little ass difficult or impossible. Could not get her take her top off either! But no matter, she did provide a fair massage and very nice ending. I will probably go back again. I am hoping that if I cultivate a relationship with one of the providers, then more may be on the menu.
GTG.
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Vitality
My last few visits have been during day shift hours and I've drawn Tina. Always a pleasant time. I haven't seen Michelle there but that may be a timing issue. I had commented that it seemed that they had been busy lately due to all the vehicular traffic but was told that they have in fact been a bit slow recently. Most traffic has been in other parts of the building. I'll continue going for now but not for long if the quality drops off. I don't mind spending or tipping but I may as well find a regular girl if the costs escalate much more.
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[QUOTE=JohnStillBored;2186806]Miranda was always fun. I don't think I ever saw Nikki. Any idea if they are anywhere we might frequent?[/QUOTE]They're only seeing a few people privately, but mostly out of the business.
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Vitality
[QUOTE=Jsc629;2187351]They're only seeing a few people privately, but mostly out of the business.[/QUOTE]My understanding (is that after Nikki had her baby, she has not been in the business. I thought I had heard that her mom owns the place. No knowledge on Miranda, but she was definitely good.
FB.
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Crystal
[QUOTE=GoodTimeGuy;2187025]Visited Crystal last week and got Nancy. Fairly attractive woman. As Lex had mentioned she wears very very tight "booty shorts" making more than caressing her fine little ass difficult or impossible. Could not get her take her top off either! But no matter, she did provide a fair massage and very nice ending. I will probably go back again. I am hoping that if I cultivate a relationship with one of the providers, then more may be on the menu.
GTG.[/QUOTE]Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. But I do believe you are pissing into the wind. They got their game together and you have no chance of cracking them.
LL.
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[QUOTE=Flyboy1544;2187383]My understanding (is that after Nikki had her baby, she has not been in the business. I thought I had heard that her mom owns the place. No knowledge on Miranda, but she was definitely good.
FB.[/QUOTE]Nikki's not totally out of the business. Her mom does not own Vitality, by the way.
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Vela's
Has anyone ever been to Vela's? She advertises on Craigslist. I have an appointment Wednesday, but I'm skeptical.
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[QUOTE=Flyboy1544;2185991]I have dreamed about Michelle a number of times. #1 in my book. Recently, she wasn't in and I had a dream about penny. Really a nightmare. Wow. What a disappointment. Used enough oil to totally eliminate any sensation, and smelled like thousands of cigarettes.
I have heard good things about Tina, but never had a dream with her.
FB.[/QUOTE]I've had a number of good dreams with Tina, but have read mixed reports since my last one.
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[QUOTE=RugbyDude;2188193]Has anyone ever been to Vela's? She advertises on Craigslist. I have an appointment Wednesday, but I'm skeptical.[/QUOTE]You will receive a very good but legit massage. Your best hope is to self finish while she is in the room. Search through the forum and you can read some reviews. She's a nice person and is pretty attractive in person but no extras to be had unless things have changed dramatically in recent times.
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Irie vibes
Has anyone been to see this girl lately?
[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/reiki-energyholistic-massage-4-men-greatest-non-asian-massage-by-black-therapistbeautiful-35/8643896[/URL]
She has some very interesting videos, but it's she any good at giving massages or any extras?
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[QUOTE=Yooster111;2189768]Has anyone been to see this girl lately?
[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/reiki-energyholistic-massage-4-men-greatest-non-asian-massage-by-black-therapistbeautiful-35/8643896[/URL]
She has some very interesting videos, but it's she any good at giving massages or any extras?[/QUOTE]She will not see you unless you are an established customer. But to me, its possible that once she hears your voice, she determines your race and decides whether or not to see you based on that.
What I have noticed is that the exact same ad appears in numerous cities, including Baltimore. I do not like anything about it. It seems to me like a scam.
LL.
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[QUOTE=LexLuther;2189907]She will not see you unless you are an established customer. But to me, its possible that once she hears your voice, she determines your race and decides whether or not to see you based on that.
What I have noticed is that the exact same ad appears in numerous cities, including Baltimore. I do not like anything about it. It seems to me like a scam.
LL.[/QUOTE]Not a scam. She gives a great salt scrub and then a massage and HE. I didn't like the setup and the service was average. She is a nice woman. She lives part of the year in Baltimore.
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[QUOTE=Dairyman;2189968]Not a scam. She gives a great salt scrub and then a massage and HE. I didn't like the setup and the service was average. She is a nice woman. She lives part of the year in Baltimore.[/QUOTE]Thanks for jumping in on that, Dairyman. I've been intrigued by her promise of nuru body slide and spoke with her once on the phone. She quoted $200 + and I was still interested but leary since I couldn't find any reviews on her for as long as she has been advertising. Based on your report I think I'll sit it out.
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I got the nuru, which is not nuru but oil. It was a pleasant experience but the location was sketchy. True nuru is a better experience.
[QUOTE=Checkeredd;2190120]Thanks for jumping in on that, Dairyman. I've been intrigued by her promise of nuru body slide and spoke with her
once on the phone. She quoted $200 + and I was still interested but leary since I couldn't find any reviews on her for as long as she has been advertising. Based on your report I think I'll sit it out.[/QUOTE]
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Green
[URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/all-new-swee-t-asians-exceptional-mimi-and-nina-843-747-7780-23/8777544[/URL]
I see that Green is advertising "all new" staff. Any of you guys buying this or is it just marketing hype? I tend to view this stuff as just hype since their ad from day one says "grand opening". My first (and last unless I hear from you all that things have truly changed) was much less than satisfactory.
Just wondering.
GTG.
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Oops
First bad experience at Zen.
So I'm not very chatty when getting a rub, and it cost me. The first time I went to Zen, I asked for Hana (great reviews) when making my appointment. I saw the same girl a few times (3) each time I went, but never really asked her name. A few days ago I made my appointment and got a different girl (not very attractive) and she asked me if I had been there before. Yup, who you see? I mumbled Hanna I think. SO she leaves and I'm guessing brings in the real Hana. I had not seen her before, and she I'm guessing told the other one she had not seen me. This fucked up the whole massage. I still got an ok rub, but it was rush and filled with questions, no teasing, no happy endingI was rushed out before the hours was up and the girl told me she was Kimberly, and made me repeat it several times. I think I may have ruined it for myself there, because whoever was rubbing me before (definitely NOT Hana) was doing an excellent job, and I would go see her 3 times a week if I could afford it. Dumb me never asked her name, so don't make this mistake guys. I will always ask from now on at all the places and make a good mental note. Whoever the other girl was is absolutely amazing, and gave me the happiest of endings.
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[QUOTE=BackwoodsGuy;2196535]First bad experience at Zen.
So I'm not very chatty when getting a rub, and it cost me. The first time I went to Zen, I asked for Hana (great reviews) when making my appointment. I saw the same girl a few times (3) each time I went, but never really asked her name. A few days ago I made my appointment and got a different girl (not very attractive) and she asked me if I had been there before. Yup, who you see? I mumbled Hanna I think. SO she leaves and I'm guessing brings in the real Hana. I had not seen her before, and she I'm guessing told the other one she had not seen me. This fucked up the whole massage. I still got an ok rub, but it was rush and filled with questions, no teasing, no happy endingI was rushed out before the hours was up and the girl told me she was Kimberly, and made me repeat it several times. I think I may have ruined it for myself there, because whoever was rubbing me before (definitely NOT Hana) was doing an excellent job, and I would go see her 3 times a week if I could afford it. Dumb me never asked her name, so don't make this mistake guys. I will always ask from now on at all the places and make a good mental note. Whoever the other girl was is absolutely amazing, and gave me the happiest of endings.[/QUOTE]I drew Kimberley last week, correct in that she was not very attractive. Massage was decent, although I had to keep telling her "too hard, more soft to medium". She'd lighten the touch only to ramp back up to hard kneading, not very enjoyable. And not much teasing as you mentioned. She performed on the flip, left happy but nothing like Hanna. She continued front massage after cleanup to complete the hour but again, that wasn't much better than the back. There is one attractive woman there now but I didn't catch her name. Kimberly is a no repeat!
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[QUOTE=GoodTimeGuy;2190678][URL]http://charleston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/all-new-swee-t-asians-exceptional-mimi-and-nina-843-747-7780-23/8777544[/URL]
I see that Green is advertising "all new" staff. Any of you guys buying this or is it just marketing hype? I tend to view this stuff as just hype since their ad from day one says "grand opening". My first (and last unless I hear from you all that things have truly changed) was much less than satisfactory.
Just wondering.
GTG.[/QUOTE]I called and asked if Candy was working this afternoon and she said that this was Candy. So I said OK and when in-- it was her so I'm not sure who the new people are but they were sure not there. Candy does give a good massage with a lot of fun. IMHO.
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Zen
[QUOTE=TomQQ;2197019]I drew Kimberley last week, correct in that she was not very attractive. Massage was decent, although I had to keep telling her "too hard, more soft to medium". She'd lighten the touch only to ramp back up to hard kneading, not very enjoyable. And not much teasing as you mentioned. She performed on the flip, left happy but nothing like Hanna. She continued front massage after cleanup to complete the hour but again, that wasn't much better than the back. There is one attractive woman there now but I didn't catch her name. Kimberly is a no repeat![/QUOTE]I drew Ava, who was Hannahesque, but nothing beats the real Hanna!
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[QUOTE=ChasMale;2197024]I called and asked if Candy was working this afternoon and she said that this was Candy. So I said OK and when in-- it was her so I'm not sure who the new people are but they were sure not there. Candy does give a good massage with a lot of fun. IMHO.[/QUOTE]My experience with Green is that Bonnie and Candy both give good massage and are a lot of fun. The third girl has changed a number of times, and has been hit or miss.
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Green Spa
[QUOTE=Checkeredd;2200226]My experience with Green is that Bonnie and Candy both give good massage and are a lot of fun. The third girl has changed a number of times, and has been hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Third girl is presently Maria, short, nice bod w / cee cup!
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Crystal spa
Saw the post on BP this week and decided to toftt today at the new place on Dorchester Road. Strip mall location sketchy area, I would not want to park there at night. They have a typical non legit / AMP spa set up. Upon entering there is a locked door in front of me with window to the right. Ring the bell and someone checks you out before the door is opened. I knew this was going to be what I expected. The place was still under construction in the back, I could hear saws and hammering the entire visit. I was greeted by a nice looking Asian woman and asked if I had been there before. I told her no, first time. I was directed to the room in back next to the sawing. $70 one hour. And told to undress and face down. I did not ask about a TS. I guess that was what they were working on. Sue, a beautiful, Milfy, skinny Asian, comes in and asks how I like it. I choose medium. She proceeded to give me a decent enough massage, soft at first and paid attention to all the tight spots. I must have put her at ease because she started to play around with the balls and butt while I was face down. At one point I think she was blowing on the boys while massaging my ass. I was having a great time. Then it was time for the flip, she asked if ok. She had a great soft touch technique, she was in no hurry to finish me off and was very playful with all the good parts. She allowed me to roam OTC so I tried Under the shirt but was given a playful look and told no no no. I told her yes yes yes- I will try again next time. By the end she had me so worked up, I was asking her to finish me off. Great HE. Hot towels, cold water tipped 40. Definitely will repeat. Especially after two lack luster Zen experiences and a poor visit to Green.
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Great Review
Everything I need to know. For a mongrel with three posts this will create a lot of trust with senior members. Newbies take note.
[QUOTE=ThePoolboy;2201199]Saw the post on BP this week and decided to toftt today at the new place on Dorchester Road. Strip mall location sketchy area, I would not want to park there at night. They have a typical non legit / AMP spa set up. Upon entering there is a locked door in front of me with window to the right. Ring the bell and someone checks you out before the door is opened. I knew this was going to be what I expected. The place was still under construction in the back, I could hear saws and hammering the entire visit. I was greeted by a nice looking Asian woman and asked if I had been there before. I told her no, first time. I was directed to the room in back next to the sawing. $70 one hour. And told to undress and face down. I did not ask about a TS. I guess that was what they were working on. Sue, a beautiful, Milfy, skinny Asian, comes in and asks how I like it. I choose medium. She proceeded to give me a decent enough massage, soft at first and paid attention to all the tight spots. I must have put her at ease because she started to play around with the balls and butt while I was face down. At one point I think she was blowing on the boys while massaging my ass. I was having a great time. Then it was time for the flip, she asked if ok. She had a great soft touch technique, she was in no hurry to finish me off and was very playful with all the good parts. She allowed me to roam OTC so I tried Under the shirt but was given a playful look and told no no no. I told her yes yes yes- I will try again next time. By the end she had me so worked up, I was asking her to finish me off. Great HE. Hot towels, cold water tipped 40. Definitely will repeat. Especially after two lack luster Zen experiences and a poor visit to Green.[/QUOTE]
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Mongrel?
[QUOTE=Dairyman;2201473]Everything I need to know. For a mongrel with three posts this will create a lot of trust with senior members. Newbies take note.[/QUOTE]A mongrel is a dog. The problem with the report is that it makes the place sound pretty good, which it is not. Quality-wise, this spa is in a par with Green.
LexLuther.
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[QUOTE=LexLuther;2201526]A mongrel is a dog. The problem with the report is that it makes the place sound pretty good, which it is not. Quality-wise, this spa is in a par with Green.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]I would say both Zen and Green give good quality massage. My experience with Zen is they are superior in quality of facility and has younger, more attractive masseuses. The quality there is strictly business and adheres closely to their established model with little deviation. Green is less expensive and your massage experience is more tailored once they get to know you.
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[QUOTE=Checkeredd;2201806]I would say both Zen and Green give good quality massage. My experience with Zen is they are superior in quality of facility and has younger, more attractive masseuses. The quality there is strictly business and adheres closely to their established model with little deviation. Green is less expensive and your massage experience is more tailored once they get to know you.[/QUOTE]For this area, they are OK. But to me, a good massage establishment is one where the masseuse will get nude, let you lick her pussy, and possibly give you a BJ. The only place like that I know of near here is Asiana.
LexLuther.
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Lex is 100% correct
Unfortunately our standards are lower here.
[QUOTE=LexLuther;2201814]For this area, they are OK. But to me, a good massage establishment is one where the masseuse will get nude, let you lick her pussy, and possibly give you a BJ. The only place like that I know of near here is Asiana.
LexLuther.[/QUOTE]
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I hate this bullshit. I call and ask if Maria is there, "Yes, you come you see. ".
I go there. A lady comes to the door. I say I'd like to see Maria. "Who?" Maria. "Marie?" No, Maria. "You been here before?" Yes. I saw Bonnie. "You come in. " Is Maria available? "Monica?" Who is Monica? She points to herself. Is Maria here? "You see me. ".
I'll be back later.
AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[QUOTE=Aljol;2200522]Third girl is presently Maria, short, nice bod w / cee cup![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dairyman;2202099]Unfortunately our standards are lower here.[/QUOTE]Agree with you both. We need more competition that sucks in a nice way.
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[QUOTE=Dairyman;2202099]Unfortunately our standards are lower here.[/QUOTE]Yes, I whole-heartedly agree. AMPs in places like Philadelphia offer far great mileage for just about the same donation. Too bad we can't get that here. . .
LD.
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Talk like a pirate day
[QUOTE=Voyrinsc;2202638]I hate this bullshit. I call and ask if Maria is there, "Yes, you come you see. ".
I go there. A lady comes to the door. I say I'd like to see Maria. "Who?" Maria. "Marie?" No, Maria. "You been here before?" Yes. I saw Bonnie. "You come in. " Is Maria available? "Monica?" Who is Monica? She points to herself. Is Maria here? "You see me. ".
I'll be back later.
AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH![/QUOTE]Is not until 19 September.
LexLuther.
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[QUOTE=LurkingDog;2203062]Yes, I whole-heartedly agree. AMPs in places like Philadelphia offer far great mileage for just about the same donation. Too bad we can't get that here. . .
LD.[/QUOTE]I don't know that we CAN'T get it here, it's that we accept what we do get here so there isn't any incentive for the providers to do better.
A few years ago, I was in a strip club in Anaheim and got everything I wanted in a private dance (multiple dances), here you'd be lucky to get that in VIP (at least double what I spent just to get in the door) assuming you get the right girl, tip just right etc.
It raises the question though, what choice do we have? We can either go with what's available or find something else to do with our time. Frankly, it's doubtful that the whole lot of us would get together and stage a boycott of what we believe to be underperforming providers. Even if we did, they'd be more likely to leave the business than step up their game.
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May at Zen
Stopped in on Monday looking for a little happy time on the holiday. Drew May at the door which apparently was the short straw. Excellent TS asked for a strong hard massage and got that too. I was thinking hot damn but sad to say her finishing skills just weren't up to the standard I'm used to at Zen. She was an older maybe 40's or even 50's and just seemed unfriendly and unenthusiastic. Definitely put me off. Of course won't keep me from going again later but I'll request another if she comes to the door.
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Green Spa
I just went to Green Spa and got a girl named Yuna. She was kind of older looking, maybe late 40's. It seemed like other people were using the TS when I walked in so I didn't go for it. $70 for the hour. The massage itself was ok, no teasing while face down. Though when flipped up she did do some teasing while doing the massage. Yuna did let me touch her under her shirt, bra and skirt. Gave her a decent tip and left. I'm not sure if I'll repeat as I like the girls at Zen more.
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New one in Summerville
New one on Old Trolley Road in Summerville.
[URL]http://charleston.craigslist.org/thp/4657232977.html[/URL]
I called but it rang for a long time then an American guy answered just as I was hanging up.
I called back and it was $60.00 for an hour $20.00 TS and $90.00 for 90 min with a free TS.
May go this afternoon. will let you know-- I don't have a lot of hope for a Summerville location to last a long time.
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[QUOTE=ChasMale;2208294]New one on Old Trolley Road in Summerville.
[URL]http://charleston.craigslist.org/thp/4657232977.html[/URL]
I called but it rang for a long time then an American guy answered just as I was hanging up.
I called back and it was $60.00 for an hour $20.00 TS and $90.00 for 90 min with a free TS.
May go this afternoon. will let you know-- I don't have a lot of hope for a Summerville location to last a long time.[/QUOTE]I went and it was a very professional layout. Great massage but no roaming or teasing and I felt out of place pushing it so I didn't. There were two ladies, the owner was a tall attractive young professional lady. Maybe 30 ish. The table shower was a prefab unit in one of the rooms. Very well done. I did get the 90 min from the owner who spoke very good English, since it came with the TS. Would I go back? Probably. Yes.
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[QUOTE=ChasMale;2208662]I went and it was a very professional layout. Great massage but no roaming or teasing and I felt out of place pushing it so I didn't. There were two ladies, the owner was a tall attractive young professional lady. Maybe 30 ish. The table shower was a prefab unit in one of the rooms. Very well done. I did get the 90 min from the owner who spoke very good English, since it came with the TS. Would I go back? Probably. Yes.[/QUOTE]So TS, no roaming, but was there HE?
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[QUOTE=Checkeredd;2208743]So TS, no roaming, but was there HE?[/QUOTE]No- HE. I asked but she said they could lose their license. I did not push to issue. She always had a smile on her face but felt that she could not.