Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=MIGuy69;6402134]I say it again, that is not acceptable. If girls see that warnings just get deleted, they will just continue their bad, dangerous behavior.

Should be something we could do?

Maybe we all write the admins there a letter. That if he cares nothing about our safety, we will stop going to his site. The good providers might then complain that their customers are leaving, and also complain. Site owners might respond at that point.

I mean, that is what is going to happen eventually if the admins prevent reviews about dangerous behavior.

Anyone else have any ideas?[/QUOTE]Best system that's out there is the 'vouch' one that p411 does. Reviews are near always fake. There's no reason for a guy to share a gem except if he thinks it will lead to extra or he gets free access to reviews like TER, but that encourages embellishing and fake reviews.

The safety thing worked best with local boards, but guys began white-knighting against anyone that had a bad experience and women got involved with the mods which killed that. Open marketing sites and alternative places to do this led to women not needing those or reviews.

Counting on a website in a sketchy biz to be concerned about keeping something up that could get them shut down and exposed just isn't happening in 2023. Best to do lots of research and to the extent things like this post exist it may help someone avoid problems.

[QUOTE=Taz41;6402246]Best system that's out there is the 'vouch' one that p411 does. Reviews are near always fake. There's no reason for a guy to share a gem except if he thinks it will lead to extra or he gets free access to reviews like TER, but that encourages embellishing and fake reviews.

The safety thing worked best with local boards, but guys began white-knighting against anyone that had a bad experience and women got involved with the mods which killed that. Open marketing sites and alternative places to do this led to women not needing those or reviews.

Counting on a website in a sketchy biz to be concerned about keeping something up that could get them shut down and exposed just isn't happening in 2023. Best to do lots of research and to the extent things like this post exist it may help someone avoid problems.[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with p411. Who is that?

What do you mean by 'open marketing site'? I would have thought good reviews were good for girls business, anywhere.

Why are you saying an escort website could get "shut down and exposed" if they are keeping something (like a warning about a provider) posted? Don't these sites depend on both providers, and, customers?

It is nice to see warnings here, but these warnings will be missed by many customers, and, I would guess most 'bad' providers won't know they are being warned to stay away from either.

[QUOTE=MIGuy69;6402294]I'm not familiar with p411. Who is that?

What do you mean by 'open marketing site'? I would have thought good reviews were good for girls business, anywhere.

Why are you saying an escort website could get "shut down and exposed" if they are keeping something (like a warning about a provider) posted? Don't these sites depend on both providers, and, customers?

It is nice to see warnings here, but these warnings will be missed by many customers, and, I would guess most 'bad' providers won't know they are being warned to stay away from either.[/QUOTE]P411 is an upscale site that many higher end women use. It just allowed for vouches for both the man and woman. You accumulate vouches.

Women don't need or want reviews. They don't need more business.

These sites exist based on who pays them and as long as they don't piss off the right people and if they're not secure with where they are based. Backpage and so many other US sites being shut down showed how easy it is to shut down a site. Many of these sites charge that charge men don't get women to participate and many that charge women are just ad sites. That's the world you live in, nothing is changing it and to be honest there's a lot of positives about this one compared to the past ones. You can't ever believe a review anyway. They're too nice or too vindictive. YMMV always applies.

Hello fellow Dreamers, I was looking to have a dream and landed two potential dreams who asked for deposits. Now think what you want about deposits, but I have found that it's never a smart move to pay before you complete your dream. They both lived in the same location and used the same name Molly. Below you'll find their links:

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/dearborn/female-escorts/caucasian_w/molly-/755029403465[/URL]

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/exotic/i-only-provide-top-notch-servi/720382806730[/URL]

You've been warned fellow dreamers, stay safe!

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/128641817[/URL]

Oof almost feel bad for her. Met at 11&deq she gave the room. Walk in, she's frantic from the start. Friendly enough but her mind is else where. Put qv on the table and my pants are off and ready. She struggles to get her shorts off. Delaying for minutes until she does the switch. Starts freaking out saying that I'm nervous and that she doesn't want to do this anymore. Grabs donation and starts threatening to get her bf. Starts getting mean. The usual addict talk. I'm dressed and out the door. Drugs really got her bad.

[QUOTE=LookingForA10;6402115]I've had two different accounts on EB over the years, each time I left any kind of negative review my account was banned within a few days, and the review was removed, I consider reviews on that site useless.[/QUOTE]They only let positive reviews get posted. Head over to callescort for honest reviews.

[QUOTE=Sid63;6369418]This Misty?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/detroit/119673596[/URL][/QUOTE]I wanted 50 car head I get there she won't come out I go in pay her blows me for 30 secs tells me to leave I grabbed her and the phone she is screaming rape. Broke her phone waited for her bf / pimp he made her give me my money back but it was only 40 $ back and I left.

Then I was so pissed In was going to go back looking for more trouble and rob them but they ain't got shit. I calmed down and left.

She's cute though I knew something was up when she said yes to 50. I'm going to go back by texting her from a different number. And give her 10 for a BJ.

I've never had a problem like that in 15 years but I had just drove 45 min to see her. This was like a month ago.

I actually had one girl in flint give me head for literally 1 sec and then stop. I t was a car date and I had drove her so far from the pickup spot and literally kicked her while she was getting out. LOL.

I'm not tough either I always lose fights in the past normally avoid fights and conflicts but there's only so much I can put up with.

[QUOTE=SleRicls;6415351]I wanted 50 car head I get there she won't come out I go in pay her blows me for 30 secs tells me to leave I grabbed her and the phone she is screaming rape. Broke her phone waited for her bf / pimp he made her give me my money back but it was only 40 $ back and I left.

Then I was so pissed In was going to go back looking for more trouble and rob them but they ain't got shit. I calmed down and left.

She's cute though I knew something was up when she said yes to 50. I'm going to go back by texting her from a different number. And give her 10 for a BJ.

I've never had a problem like that in 15 years but I had just drove 45 min to see her. This was like a month ago.

I actually had one girl in flint give me head for literally 1 sec and then stop. I t was a car date and I had drove her so far from the pickup spot and literally kicked her while she was getting out. LOL.

I'm not tough either I always lose fights in the past normally avoid fights and conflicts but there's only so much I can put up with.[/QUOTE]Wow. Really. All this over 50? Not only is it probably not worth it if someone willing to blow for 50 but the icing was driving 45 minutes for it. And the cherry on top was risky your life so as not to waste the 50. Thanks for enlightening us on how not to get a quality date and what not to do when it all goes south.

[QUOTE=HugeDk;6419454]Wow. Really. All this over 50? Not only is it probably not worth it if someone willing to blow for 50 but the icing was driving 45 minutes for it. And the cherry on top was risky your life so as not to waste the 50. Thanks for enlightening us on how not to get a quality date and what not to do when it all goes south.[/QUOTE]I assume you'd just let her keep the money like many guys. These girls will keep ripping guys off since guys make it so easy. Some people don't just roll over and take it. If a girl has a few bad experiences ripping guys off she might stop doing it. That makes it better for everyone.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6419886]I assume you'd just let her keep the money like many guys. These girls will keep ripping guys off since guys make it so easy. Some people don't just roll over and take it. If a girl has a few bad experiences ripping guys off she might stop doing it. That makes it better for everyone.[/QUOTE]You have to pick and choose your battles. I'm wearing $200 shoes, I'm not going to lose one of them up some chick ass over $50, nor am I going to get into a fist fight with her dude over $50. I will however call LE and tell them that I suspect there is prostitution going on in room 123 and that one of the girls looks rather young.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;6420453]You have to pick and choose your battles. I'm wearing $200 shoes, I'm not going to lose one of them up some chick ass over $50, nor am I going to get into a fist fight with her dude over $50. I will however call LE and tell them that I suspect there is prostitution going on in room 123 and that one of the girls looks rather young.[/QUOTE]This is far more reasonable. Sure, you lose out of the money, but you aren't putting yourself at risk. They don't expect anyone to call Uncle LEO, so even if they don't wear orange, it will probably make them a bit wiser.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;6420453]You have to pick and choose your battles. I'm wearing $200 shoes, I'm not going to lose one of them up some chick ass over $50, nor am I going to get into a fist fight with her dude over $50. I will however call LE and tell them that I suspect there is prostitution going on in room 123 and that one of the girls looks rather young.[/QUOTE]I would leave the 200 $ shoes at home and wear the worn 50 $ NB.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-i-provide-top-notch-service-/086437033455[/URL] This lady is a total rip off. Worse service ever. Too many red flags I ignored. Wanted to know if I wanted drugs.

[QUOTE=DetroitWill;6442701][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/caucasian_w/-i-provide-top-notch-service-/086437033455[/URL] This lady is a total rip off. Worse service ever. Too many red flags I ignored. Wanted to know if I wanted drugs.[/QUOTE]She also poses as a 62 year old blonde.

[QUOTE=ChrisLebek;6414227]Hello fellow Dreamers, I was looking to have a dream and landed two potential dreams who asked for deposits. Now think what you want about deposits, but I have found that it's never a smart move to pay before you complete your dream. They both lived in the same location and used the same name Molly. Below you'll find their links:

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/dearborn/female-escorts/caucasian_w/molly-/755029403465[/URL]

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/exotic/i-only-provide-top-notch-servi/720382806730[/URL]

You've been warned fellow dreamers, stay safe![/QUOTE]This was the one. Should have research too. No deposit required this time.

Went to see her, as soon as donation was set, bf / pimp came in and kicked me out.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/looking-for-awesome-time-funplaymat-i-m-ur-giirl-sexii-lexii/56202285[/URL]

[QUOTE=RydeorDyeDet;6444801]Went to see her, as soon as donation was set, bf / pimp came in and kicked me out.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/looking-for-awesome-time-funplaymat-i-m-ur-giirl-sexii-lexii/56202285[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn, thanks for the tip and sorry to hear! Personally, I would be AFRAID to just blatantly rip people off like that as one day, week or year, if that keeps up, some guy with nothing to lose and a super strong 'mean streak' is simply going to react without thinking and everyone will be sorry in the end. But yeah, if I were you I would do the same. Not worth being set up by them both as the 'aggressor' when the police show up or being beaten or worse over a chick.

$20 for a deposit, never showed up. Told me 10 minutes then ghosted.

[QUOTE=WednesdayFun;6445406]$20 for a deposit, never showed up. Told me 10 minutes then ghosted.[/QUOTE]That's new for her. Usually she wants you to stop at a gas station and buy her $40 worth of crap.

[QUOTE=LunasMan;6378162]Sorry this happened to you, brother. She pulled some crap like that on me in Wixom last year. She came down to meet me outside the hotel with some bs story about paying for the room. Should have known better but had a good buzz on and wasn't thinking clearly. Only took me for 100 and then ghosted me and probably blocked my number. Seems like she has been at this for awhile whenever she needs some quick cash. Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]Wish I'd found this site before. She got me too this spring in Detroit. She came to my hotel, wanted a shower first. Wanted me to join. I was buzzed and stupid, so I jumped in to adjust the water, and she split with the cash. I had left it on the dresser, she left her bag with a ratty shirt in it in the bathroom and just dashed.

Definitely stay away.

[QUOTE=Archangel2112;6445565]That's new for her. Usually she wants you to stop at a gas station and buy her $40 worth of crap.[/QUOTE]Cece is one that won't rip off in person. Just tell her you don't have a cash app or PayPal, etc. She still may flake, but without costing anything.

[QUOTE=RydeorDyeDet;6444801]Went to see her, as soon as donation was set, bf / pimp came in and kicked me out.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/looking-for-awesome-time-funplaymat-i-m-ur-giirl-sexii-lexii/56202285[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's some screen shots for when she takes the ad down:

[QUOTE=SleRicls;6415351]I wanted 50 car head I get there she won't come out I go in pay her blows me for 30 secs tells me to leave I grabbed her and the phone she is screaming rape. Broke her phone waited for her bf / pimp he made her give me my money back but it was only 40 $ back and I left.

Then I was so pissed In was going to go back looking for more trouble and rob them but they ain't got shit. I calmed down and left.

She's cute though I knew something was up when she said yes to 50. I'm going to go back by texting her from a different number. And give her 10 for a BJ.

I've never had a problem like that in 15 years but I had just drove 45 min to see her. This was like a month ago.

I actually had one girl in flint give me head for literally 1 sec and then stop. I t was a car date and I had drove her so far from the pickup spot and literally kicked her while she was getting out. LOL.

I'm not tough either I always lose fights in the past normally avoid fights and conflicts but there's only so much I can put up with.[/QUOTE]Here's a link that might last a little longer. This is a shame because this girl, Misty, is good enough looking to make some serious cash. Instead, she and her boy are going to fuck around and find out.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/phone/586-439-8210[/URL]

[URL]https://uberover.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/144789792[/URL]

I saw her probably 3-4 times all at my place. She would spam you everyday to see her so I finally did again and I made the mistake of getting comfortable. I apple pay'd her first when she came to my room and hit me with the "I need to freshen up first" at that point I knew what it was when she went in her guy started banging on the door and of course she darted out. I had my gun so I wasn't worried but I was shocked because she used to be cool even had her at my crib stay away they'll run into a mf who has less to lose than me.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/149065924[/URL]

Has bf or pimp will open the door and threatens you that she's a minore.

[QUOTE=Trizzy1017;6525705][URL]https://uberover.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/144789792[/URL]

I saw her probably 3-4 times all at my place. She would spam you everyday to see her so I finally did again and I made the mistake of getting comfortable. I apple pay'd her first when she came to my room and hit me with the "I need to freshen up first" at that point I knew what it was when she went in her guy started banging on the door and of course she darted out. I had my gun so I wasn't worried but I was shocked because she used to be cool even had her at my crib stay away they'll run into a mf who has less to lose than me.[/QUOTE]Who is this about? Your link goes to the main page. At least names would be nice.

All the small people posting are rip offs. They say there the real thing. Will send pics (fake) of her uber position. Beware avoid them like the plague.

[QUOTE=ZoltarXXX;6566208]All the small people posting are rip offs. They say there the real thing. Will send pics (fake) of her uber position. Beware avoid them like the plague.[/QUOTE]Is this based on a recent experience?

Avoid this one like the plague. She will take your money and then start saying there's no way she's going to do what was agreed on. Threatens to call the cops.

She's had bad reports in the past. I totally forgot about them and did the idiot thing.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/153167034[/URL]

At our favorite watering hole catching up on the latest. One of our group got scammed.

Pretty clever, but paid in advance, never even saw her.

She was advertising on Skip.

Now, he's not even sure she was even in the area!

904-752-8131.

Also.

694 #.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/694-752-8131[/URL]

Modus Operandi.

#261.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?6798-Escort-Reports[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stoker999;6638000]At our favorite watering hole catching up on the latest. One of our group got scammed.

Pretty clever, but paid in advance, never even saw her.

She was advertising on Skip.

Now, he's not even sure she was even in the area!

904-752-8131.

Also.

694 #.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/694-752-8131[/URL]

Modus Operandi.

#261.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?6798-Escort-Reports[/URL][/QUOTE]Shocking result. Who knew.

Hi all, long time lurker. Was wondering if anyone had ever met with this one? She looks cute but always nervous.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/159572627[/URL]

When you click to see more photos, you can see there's two different girls; typical of scam posts.

[QUOTE=BrightSide80;6665873]Hi all, long time lurker. Was wondering if anyone had ever met with this one? She looks cute but always nervous.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/159572627[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrightSide80;6665873]Hi all, long time lurker. Was wondering if anyone had ever met with this one? She looks cute but always nervous.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/159572627[/URL][/QUOTE]It'd definitely a scam. The video and pictures or of porn star Anastasia Rose.

Not mine, posting here for safety.

[QUOTE=TigerBag01;6681781]While I've seen this provider multiple times and she was previously good, times must be hard. Was Cashed and Dashed last time I saw her. Avoid this provider at all cost.

[URL]https://escortbabylon.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/160361704[/URL][/QUOTE]

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/161618651[/URL]

I've seen this provider in the past and let my guard down. She wanted the donation put down on the table prior to starting and then immediately picked it up. I knew at that point I fucked up. She dinked around for the time I was there and then told me I had to leave. No services provided. She is a thief, avoid.

[QUOTE=Insidious;6708690][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/161618651[/URL]

I've seen this provider in the past and let my guard down. She wanted the donation put down on the table prior to starting and then immediately picked it up. I knew at that point I fucked up. She dinked around for the time I was there and then told me I had to leave. No services provided. She is a thief, avoid.[/QUOTE]I guess we are supposed to have an envelope full of monopoly money instead for times like this.

[QUOTE=HungaryMan;6709141]I guess we are supposed to have an envelope full of monopoly money instead for times like this.[/QUOTE]Although she eventually did the deed, it was so not worth it. Would have been better off the leave.

Stay away from this one.

[QUOTE=Insidious;6708690][URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/161618651[/URL]

I've seen this provider in the past and let my guard down. She wanted the donation put down on the table prior to starting and then immediately picked it up. I knew at that point I fucked up. She dinked around for the time I was there and then told me I had to leave. No services provided. She is a thief, avoid.[/QUOTE]It's the cost of playing in this hobby sometimes. She'll eventually try this with a monger that will backhand her to take back the donation and whatever else he finds.

Couple months back Kamii requested the donation up front, and dipped without providing service. There were multiple flags on callescort confirming the same before the ads were taken down. Suspect service can be had if you insist on the donation afterwards, but not worth it anyways and pics seemed old.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/313-360-4136[/URL]

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/313-736-2107[/URL]

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/313-624-6671[/URL]

She does dou's with her sister Cali, who also had some flags on callescort.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/313-335-9191[/URL]