It's been a while since I have been in the area. I know things change so wondering the best bang for the buck? I have been to Red Sun in the past and it was good and one other place but do not remember the name. Would appreciate any suggestions.
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It's been a while since I have been in the area. I know things change so wondering the best bang for the buck? I have been to Red Sun in the past and it was good and one other place but do not remember the name. Would appreciate any suggestions.
Dammit, got logged out and lost my long post post. Summary: after years of being nervous I finally had a dream. Dreamt of Blue Waves crashing on the shore. Called ahead, told mama it was my first time dreaming. She was very nice and promised to take care of me. Then she laughed and said "Not me, nice girl. " (Not that I would've turned down mama hehe.) $.5 for 30 min, got Casey who is a very cute and petite (8-8.5) spinner. She gave me the softest sweetest hug and took my hand to lead me to a clean, small room. Gave an amazing massage--seriously I see a legit provider every few months and Casey was better. She asked if the pressure was good (it was) and made sure to "slip" occasionally. The flip came and she asked what else she could do. Quoted $ for HE which I know is high but I had such a fantastic massage I just agreed. Maybe because I had been generous, she didn't just allow but encouraged my hands to roam. I asked if she'd sit on my chest and it took her a sec to understand, then she parked her cute firm ass in my face and said "Only look! I think she meant no DATY but I ran my fingers over her shaved kitty and cute ass, and she encouraged me. Didn't last long, and she cleaned me up and gave me another hug. Never felt rushed, had a great experience. And despite my anxiety I never got a visit from my uncle.
Massage: 10/10.
Extra: 8/10.
Overall: 9/10.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5635720]Dammit, got logged out and lost my long post post. Summary: after years of being nervous I finally had a dream. Dreamt of Blue Waves crashing on the shore. Called ahead, told mama it was my first time dreaming. She was very nice and promised to take care of me. Then she laughed and said "Not me, nice girl. " (Not that I would've turned down mama hehe.) $.5 for 30 min, got Casey who is a very cute and petite (8-8.5) spinner. She gave me the softest sweetest hug and took my hand to lead me to a clean, small room. Gave an amazing massage--seriously I see a legit provider every few months and Casey was better. She asked if the pressure was good (it was) and made sure to "slip" occasionally. The flip came and she asked what else she could do. Quoted $ for HE which I know is high but I had such a fantastic massage I just agreed. Maybe because I had been generous, she didn't just allow but encouraged my hands to roam. I asked if she'd sit on my chest and it took her a sec to understand, then she parked her cute firm ass in my face and said "Only look! I think she meant no DATY but I ran my fingers over her shaved kitty and cute ass, and she encouraged me. Didn't last long, and she cleaned me up and gave me another hug. Never felt rushed, had a great experience. And despite my anxiety I never got a visit from my uncle.
Massage: 10/10.
Extra: 8/10.
Overall: 9/10.[/QUOTE]Be smart and you will never meet uncle. Be dumb you will. If you had let your hands roam earlier, like early, you probably would have gotten full service. Can't guarantee. As far as AMP's go, I always go to Philly. Seems like I've gotten the impression that the same is available in Delaware but the providers tend to be older.
If you ever decide to see an escort, grab her ass as you come through the door. She expects it. Its like the cop check. After that start undressing, she should be too. If she isn’t, slow down, if she doesn’t you leave. Again be smart.
[QUOTE=TheePhoenix;5663633]Be smart and you will never meet uncle. Be dumb you will. If you had let your hands roam earlier, like early, you probably would have gotten full service. Can't guarantee. As far as AMP's go, I always go to Philly. Seems like I've gotten the impression that the same is available in Delaware but the providers tend to be older.
If you ever decide to see an escort, grab her ass as you come through the door. She expects it. Its like the cop check. After that start undressing, she should be too. If she isnt, slow down, if she doesnt you leave. Again be smart.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions. Had a dream about another nearby place with Rainbows, encounter was as you describe: very quick grab from the provider after the door closed. Had a very different experience there. Was cheaper (. 6) but, for want of a better term, it was--sleazier. Older but still cute provider, made lots of noise, she roamed a lot more, rubbed up against me a lot more as well. (She also made fun of my chest hair, I just rolled my eyes.) Wasn't a terrible experience and I'm not kidding myself, I know the girl from the Waves dream was a pro and not "into" me, but it was just a much more pleasant experience overall even if it cost more. Probably won't dream of Rainbows again.
Did have another dream about Waves, still kept it to HE just because I'm taking things at my own pace.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5635720]Dammit, got logged out and lost my long post post. Summary: after years of being nervous I finally had a dream. Dreamt of Blue Waves crashing on the shore. Called ahead, told mama it was my first time dreaming. She was very nice and promised to take care of me. Then she laughed and said "Not me, nice girl. " (Not that I would've turned down mama hehe.) $.5 for 30 min, got Casey who is a very cute and petite (8-8.5) spinner. She gave me the softest sweetest hug and took my hand to lead me to a clean, small room. Gave an amazing massage--seriously I see a legit provider every few months and Casey was better. She asked if the pressure was good (it was) and made sure to "slip" occasionally. The flip came and she asked what else she could do. Quoted $ for HE which I know is high but I had such a fantastic massage I just agreed. Maybe because I had been generous, she didn't just allow but encouraged my hands to roam. I asked if she'd sit on my chest and it took her a sec to understand, then she parked her cute firm ass in my face and said "Only look! I think she meant no DATY but I ran my fingers over her shaved kitty and cute ass, and she encouraged me. Didn't last long, and she cleaned me up and gave me another hug. Never felt rushed, had a great experience. And despite my anxiety I never got a visit from my uncle.
Massage: 10/10.
Extra: 8/10.
Overall: 9/10.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! Just a point of reference, 100 is the standard fee for FS at most AMPs around here. HE 40-60 and CBJ 60-80. I suspect if you pay too much, you will have set the floor for yourself in the future at that location. But glad you got your feet wet at such a good place!
Also, not sure what is the point of stating you had "a dream?" If someone needs to take your posts here offsite as "evidence" for something you have bigger troubles. No SO is going to buy that it was just a dream. LE will just show up and ask you, cause lying to LE is a crime itself. So feel free to just report what happened. Hey, just saying.
If you are concerned about being traced, surf with a VPN or Tor Browser. Tor doesn't save any history or cookies so you don't have to remember to delete them. Also they route you around the globe several times so harder to match any entry and exit that from a single node VPN.
Happy Hunting! Stay safe!
Thanks for the info and suggestion. Haven't been reading posts here regularly for a few years and back in the day it seemed like everyone was using the "dream" language. I'll avoid it in the future.
When I went to Rainbow 7 I definitely spent a lot less than I did at Blue Wave, and even negotiated down to $. 6 from the requested $.8, but I preferred the experience more when I paid more. Honestly can't tell how much of that is paying more and how much is just the difference between providers. Tempted to try out another place and negotiate more.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5675435]Thanks for the info and suggestion. Haven't been reading posts here regularly for a few years and back in the day it seemed like everyone was using the "dream" language. I'll avoid it in the future.
When I went to Rainbow 7 I definitely spent a lot less than I did at Blue Wave, and even negotiated down to $. 6 from the requested $.8, but I preferred the experience more when I paid more. Honestly can't tell how much of that is paying more and how much is just the difference between providers. Tempted to try out another place and negotiate more.[/QUOTE]There are definitely times in this hobby where paying more will get you a better experience. A high end escort, at $400/ hour or more, is (usually) going to give you a better overall experience than a $40 streetwalker. I've never had a $400/ hour escort, but people have posted elsewhere that "they know what you want without you having to ask". Someday.
Paying above the standard rate is not the only tool at your disposal, and should really be a last resort*. Many around here will talk about how people who pay higher rates without question are "ruining it for the rest of us" and there's definitely some evidence of rising rates because others are inclined to pay more. But the person you're really making it more expensive for is yourself. As Shampoo has indicated, you set your own floor with everyone in this hobby, and once you decide on a set price that first time, it's going to be very difficult to float down.
In my experience, forming a personal connection with your therapist at the AMP is the smoothest way to have a superior experience at the standard rates you've seen posted elsewhere in this thread. At a few of my regular places, there is no talk of money at all, outside of the house fee at the beginning of the visit. They get tipped at the standard rate at the end of the session, but there's no pesky negotiating in the middle of the session. No break to get any cash, nothing (but the condom) to break the mood. Just a smooth transition from massage to the flip to the cover to the fun, and when everything has concluded I will tip the therapist with some sincere compliments, a little more flirting and my thanks for some satisfying time together.
So how to do that? Flirt. Touch. Tastefully. Don't try to get to third base in the first few minutes of the massage, but it's ok to tease the back of her thighs, the bottom of her ass and the sides of her hips. Try to have a conversation, even if her English isn't very strong. One therapist complimented me on my body after the table shower and I told her how pretty she was. Her English wasn't very good, so she didn't understand and didn't respond. After a few moments of silence, Mama (who is always listening, even when you think she isn't) called over the wall from the kitchen in Korean, telling her what I said, and then telling me in English what she told the therapist. Everyone blushed and she thanked me for complimenting her. We both made an effort to talk from that point forward. That session went [B][I]extremely[/B][/I] well, even though it was her first time with me.
Some other things you can do are to take an interest in how her day is going or who she is as a person. And, when fun time starts, ensure there's a balanced give and take between the two of you. Your provider will appreciate any pleasure you can give her. If you're in tune with her reactions to your touch and spend some time ensuring she has as much of a good time as you do, it makes an impression. Once, after a session, the therapist told me it had been a few months since she "was happy down there", and was very appreciative for the orgasms I gave her. Was she being honest? If she was lying to me, she was pretty good at it. Her body's reaction to what I did to her would have been difficult to fake. Experience has told me that if you give her the boyfriend experience, chances are pretty good you'll be treated a lot better. At the standard rates.
And know that everyone at the parlor talks with one another. Treat everyone well, keep everyone satisfied and happy and your legend will grow. Even as the therapists rotate in and out of the schedule mama will ensure that the new ones know who her regulars are. She wants regular customers who treat her girls well, because when you make them happy they treat everyone else better, also. It's a virtuous circle.
[I]*As you establish a relationship with a therapist or an escort and the menu expands for you over time, paying more or tipping above rate is a generally accepted means of showing your appreciation for the elevated service - just keep it reasonable or the "you set your own floor" rule will apply and things can get more permanently expensive[/I]
[QUOTE=Jayke00;5675980]There are definitely times in this hobby where paying more will get you a better experience. A high end escort, at $400/ hour or more, is (usually) going to give you a better overall experience than a $40 streetwalker. I've never had a $400/ hour escort, but people have posted elsewhere that "they know what you want without you having to ask". Someday.
Paying above the standard rate is not the only tool at your disposal, and should really be a last resort*. Many around here will talk about how people who pay higher rates without question are "ruining it for the rest of us" and there's definitely some evidence of rising rates because others are inclined to pay more. But the person you're really making it more expensive for is yourself. As Shampoo has indicated, you set your own floor with everyone in this hobby, and once you decide on a set price that first time, it's going to be very difficult to float down.
In my experience, forming a personal connection with your therapist at the AMP is the smoothest way to have a superior experience at the standard rates you've seen posted elsewhere in this thread. At a few of my regular places, there is no talk of money at all, outside of the house fee at the beginning of the visit. They get tipped at the standard rate at the end of the session, but there's no pesky negotiating in the middle of the session. No break to get any cash, nothing (but the condom) to break the mood. Just a smooth transition from massage to the flip to the cover to the fun, and when everything has concluded I will tip the therapist with some sincere compliments, a little more flirting and my thanks for some satisfying time together.
So how to do that? Flirt. Touch. Tastefully. Don't try to get to third base in the first few minutes of the massage, but it's ok to tease the back of her thighs, the bottom of her ass and the sides of her hips. Try to have a conversation, even if her English isn't very strong. One therapist complimented me on my body after the table shower and I told her how pretty she was. Her English wasn't very good, so she didn't understand and didn't respond. After a few moments of silence, Mama (who is always listening, even when you think she isn't) called over the wall from the kitchen in Korean, telling her what I said, and then telling me in English what she told the therapist. Everyone blushed and she thanked me for complimenting her. We both made an effort to talk from that point forward. That session went [B][I]extremely[/B][/I] well, even though it was her first time with me.
Some other things you can do are to take an interest in how her day is going or who she is as a person. And, when fun time starts, ensure there's a balanced give and take between the two of you. Your provider will appreciate any pleasure you can give her. If you're in tune with her reactions to your touch and spend some time ensuring she has as much of a good time as you do, it makes an impression. Once, after a session, the therapist told me it had been a few months since she "was happy down there", and was very appreciative for the orgasms I gave her. Was she being honest? If she was lying to me, she was pretty good at it. Her body's reaction to what I did to her would have been difficult to fake. Experience has told me that if you give her the boyfriend experience, chances are pretty good you'll be treated a lot better. At the standard rates.
And know that everyone at the parlor talks with one another. Treat everyone well, keep everyone satisfied and happy and your legend will grow. Even as the therapists rotate in and out of the schedule mama will ensure that the new ones know who her regulars are. She wants regular customers who treat her girls well, because when you make them happy they treat everyone else better, also. It's a virtuous circle.
[I]*As you establish a relationship with a therapist or an escort and the menu expands for you over time, paying more or tipping above rate is a generally accepted means of showing your appreciation for the elevated service - just keep it reasonable or the "you set your own floor" rule will apply and things can get more permanently expensive[/I][/QUOTE]Sounds like some very good advice. I myself haven't popped my AMP cherry, so, can't really say I've applied any of that in the SAME situations, but much of it applies to "others". You must be the AMP God😂.
[QUOTE=PPJones;5677038]Sounds like some very good advice. I myself haven't popped my AMP cherry, so, can't really say I've applied any of that in the SAME situations, but much of it applies to "others". [/QUOTE]Being nice to people makes for better results in all parts of life, yes. Can't say I can tease the thighs of the women I work with to set the mood for a good day at work, but it hasn't stopped me from fantasizing about a few of them.
[QUOTE=PPJones;5677038]You must be the AMP God😂.[/QUOTE]As everyone else in this hobby has experienced, not every session is a good one. Sometimes the therapist isn't in a good mood, doesn't "click" with you or doesn't see me as her "type" and I get standard or sub-standard service. You pays your money, you takes your chances. It's all part of the excitement in trying a new place or getting a new therapist at a regular place. But I do think it's been more good than bad, and I do think it's partially because of my approach.
Thanks for the kind words!
I'll be sensible but I'm definitely sticking with Blue Wave. For one thing, since they've gotten to know me more has come on the menu and at a reasonable price (CBJ for $1-1. 2 depending on provider). I tried Cozy Spa and it was *awful* on every note of comparison. Older lady, not as cute, lousy massage, boring ending. Sure I got out for $. 5 + $. 6 but if that had been my first time I'd never do it again.
I was a pre-COVID regular at BW whenever I drove through Wilmington, and very much lament the departures of Angela and Lisa. With my work returning to more in-person travel, omicron be damned, I had a chance to swing by BW and saw Saya for the first time. I'm very glad I did.
I called ahead to confirm a time, and Saya greeted me at the front door with a smile and a warm hug. In the room, we had brief LFK as I undressed and went to the table shower. Saya also undressed for the shower, which involved body-sliding fun and plenty of roaming and teasing. Back in the room, the massage was a serviceable rubdown with plenty of nude full body contact. This transitioned into side-by-side cuddling with DFK, and further playful DFK with her on top. She moved down for a prolonged, skillful BBBJ, followed by DATY which she responded enthusiastically to. After a CBJ, I finished in MISH with more DFK.
As always, YMMV, but Saya and I clearly clicked. Damage was. 8 + 1.2. I've always followed *Jayke00*'s wisdom with providers, and I think that being very friendly and funny up front really helped this first-time encounter. Saya told me she will be at BW for another 2 months or so. I will absolutely repeat.
[QUOTE=DoublePud1;5708966]I was a pre-COVID regular at BW whenever I drove through Wilmington, and very much lament the departures of Angela and Lisa. With my work returning to more in-person travel, omicron be damned, I had a chance to swing by BW and saw Saya for the first time. I'm very glad I did.
I called ahead to confirm a time, and Saya greeted me at the front door with a smile and a warm hug. In the room, we had brief LFK as I undressed and went to the table shower. Saya also undressed for the shower, which involved body-sliding fun and plenty of roaming and teasing. Back in the room, the massage was a serviceable rubdown with plenty of nude full body contact. This transitioned into side-by-side cuddling with DFK, and further playful DFK with her on top. She moved down for a prolonged, skillful BBBJ, followed by DATY which she responded enthusiastically to. After a CBJ, I finished in MISH with more DFK.
As always, YMMV, but Saya and I clearly clicked. Damage was. 8 + 1.2. I've always followed *Jayke00*'s wisdom with providers, and I think that being very friendly and funny up front really helped this first-time encounter. Saya told me she will be at BW for another 2 months or so. I will absolutely repeat.[/QUOTE]I sure miss Lisa who used to be there. She was one of the best ladies I've seen at any AMP and why I would drive 1. 5 hours to see her.
[QUOTE=Korman23;5711291]I sure miss Lisa who used to be there. She was one of the best ladies I've seen at any AMP and why I would drive 1. 5 hours to see her.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. My work travel is between MD and PA, and I sometimes would create the need for a work trip as an excuse to make the trip to see her.
[QUOTE=Korman23;5711291]I sure miss Lisa who used to be there. She was one of the best ladies I've seen at any AMP and why I would drive 1. 5 hours to see her.[/QUOTE]Where is BW? Been a few AMPs and can't say any have been great.
[QUOTE=NewarkGuy;5712697]Where is BW? Been a few AMPs and can't say any have been great.[/QUOTE]Blue Wave is in Claymont, DE but I can't recall the exact address.
Great BBFS session with her on Sunday. Two rounds -- one donation.
[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;5733466]Great BBFS session with her on Sunday. Two rounds -- one donation.[/QUOTE]What was the one donation amount?
[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;5733466]Great BBFS session with her on Sunday. Two rounds -- one donation.[/QUOTE]Also what does she look like and how old? Thanks.
[QUOTE=BerryMcCockinr;5737690]Also what does she look like and how old? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Saya is in her early 30's or so, very cute, I'd say at least 7. 5-8. Maybe B size up top, firm body with a little bit of softness where it matters. Trimmed but not unshaven. Great smile. She's very sweet, treat her nice and she'll do FS for a Benjamin over house fee. Treat her nice regardless, she's a doll.
Okay so thought I'd try going for a massage, settled on KC. I am thoroughly confused by the experience. I feel like I did everything right. Left the towel low while waiting for the masseuse to come in, gently touched her legs when it was appropriate, let her know what felt good she left me completely uncovered 90% of the time.
Massage was great, then she climbed in the table and walked on top of my back and that was an experience in itself. Lots heavy sensual touching on her part she was all up on my ass and around my junk. I felt like a HE was a sure thing but the timer went off and she asked if I wanted to extend.
I assumed this was my opportunity to show how much I was willing to tip, I've read between 40-60, so I figured I'd play it safe and show 50 $. She only wanted to extend the massage time though? I didn't have a lot of time so I said I can stay for another 15 and she took the 15 $ for the extra time. After that nothing?
So did I miss something? I'm not too concerned because I did enjoy the massage and it was still cheaper than an actual spa even with a tip at the end. I'm planning on returning any tips?
[QUOTE=TastyCrouton;5749060]Okay so thought I'd try going for a massage, settled on KC. I am thoroughly confused by the experience. I feel like I did everything right. Left the towel low while waiting for the masseuse to come in, gently touched her legs when it was appropriate, let her know what felt good she left me completely uncovered 90% of the time.
Massage was great, then she climbed in the table and walked on top of my back and that was an experience in itself. Lots heavy sensual touching on her part she was all up on my ass and around my junk. I felt like a HE was a sure thing but the timer went off and she asked if I wanted to extend.
I assumed this was my opportunity to show how much I was willing to tip, I've read between 40-60, so I figured I'd play it safe and show 50 $. She only wanted to extend the massage time though? I didn't have a lot of time so I said I can stay for another 15 and she took the 15 $ for the extra time. After that nothing?
So did I miss something? I'm not too concerned because I did enjoy the massage and it was still cheaper than an actual spa even with a tip at the end. I'm planning on returning any tips?[/QUOTE]Been a while since I've been to KC but I had a similar experience. I was a little crude and said I was still feeling stiff and pointed to the upper inner thigh area and she said oh okay, $60.
[QUOTE=StarTech23;5750290]Been a while since I've been to KC but I had a similar experience. I was a little crude and said I was still feeling stiff and pointed to the upper inner thigh area and she said oh okay, $60.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your initial steps were good and well played!
Yeah, not every girl is blatant about extras: got to ask for what you want. I suspect most girls will "get it" and little discussion is needed. But for a girl who is shy, scared of LE or just having a bad day, customer might need to be a slight bit more explicit about "other duties as assigned" for the employee. If you are concerned room is bugged for sound, one can use hand gestures.
One can also just leave the house fee and "tip" on the nearby table and girl will get the message. That usually works better when the tip is a Ben and a prophylactic is laying there too.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5748311]Saya is in her early 30's or so, very cute, I'd say at least 7. 5-8. Maybe B size up top, firm body with a little bit of softness where it matters. Trimmed but not unshaven. Great smile. She's very sweet, treat her nice and she'll do FS for a Benjamin over house fee. Treat her nice regardless, she's a doll.[/QUOTE]I did a 30 min session for all in of 180.
[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;5752019]I did a 30 min session for all in of 180.[/QUOTE]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.
[QUOTE=Gator1970;5752105]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]50 for 30 min + 130 for two rounds of BBFS is a good deal in my book.
[QUOTE=Gator1970;5752105]I would think that's the going rate for 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]House fee is. 5 for 30, . 6 for 60--haven't tested yet but my inclination is that Saya would not up charge for the full hour. Even one of the other girls was like "Saya is nuts. " Hah.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5756549]House fee is. 5 for 30, . 6 for 60--haven't tested yet but my inclination is that Saya would not up charge for the full hour. Even one of the other girls was like "Saya is nuts. " Hah.[/QUOTE]How many ladies does BW staff? I want a backup plan if this Saya is booked when I visit.
[QUOTE=Antipooh;5770466]Would like to try an AMP, but always feels like those places are on the radar of Uncle LEO, so I' m skeert. [b]Feel like I need a mentor.[/b]
I can tell you that I'm certainly not paying those prices. Did throw down a little more to see Ivy a coupla times, but the return was excellent, and she's not close to some of these quote we're seeing now.[/QUOTE]Glad you asked as this is the place to ask "how to" questions! Plenty of experts around here can help "mentor" you.
OK, so it has been a while since anyone has posted a "how to" on AMP visits, so I'll give my version and hopefully others (LuvARub+ others?) will add their spin or refinements.
I guess one CAN be wary of a AMP visit because of [I][u]potential[/u][/I] LE activity, but IF one conducts themself properly they can manage the risk down VERY low. This is a delicate little dance.
First and most important rule is [b]NEVER [u]EVER[/u] talk about sex for money![/b] Never say, "Can you do a blow job for $60"! You are going to an AMP for a body rub. That's it!
So you go to a place, do your homework first. Look for reviews from 3 months ago and get some names of the girls that were around then, but gone now. Point of this is that IF the mamasan asks you the key question, "Have you been here before?" You can say, "Yes, I saw _____". This puts the situation at ease. That use to be the key 'pass phrase" at the old Callowhill Relaxation Station years ago.
So some places you call ahead before showing up, others you just show up. Go to the door, knock or ring the bell and someone lets you in. Now BE COOL! You act all nervous, you'll make them nervous. Might be asked how long you want: rates are generally 40 for 30-minutes and 60 for 60-minutes. This "fee for time" is known as the [b]"House fee" - the fee for the rub.[/b] IF you want extras usually the 60-min rub is what you want to ask for. Usually you pay Mamasan the "house fee" up front. Have had house fee collected in the room by the girl at some places. Some places where things are assumed the house fee and "tip" are collected up front. Then you will be shown to a room or cubical and asked to get comfortable.
Anyway a request to get comfortable means get undressed! Girl usually leaves as you do so. Some places girl might help with your shoes. They might have a robe on a hook in the room, if so, Use it! If no robe, look for a towel and wrap that around you like a skirt. You can sit up or lay on the massage table: face down, towel covering your waist to your thighs.
But note: IF offered a shower or table shower TAKE IT! I don't give a F if you just hopped out of the shower! The girl is going to be more comfortable if she KNOWS you are clean. Some places in Philly will toss yer salad if they cleaned you up down there. That said, it is always a good idea to show up clean & fresh at a AMP. Some places with no washy-washy facilities might turn you down if you show up in work clothes after you got done crawling around in trash to fix some equipment!
But you get naked with a towel around you and eventually the girl returns and starts the "massage". She might ask if oil is OK? For those with an SO, it might make sense to ask for no oil? Rub will be variable. Try saying "yes" or positive moaning when she hits a sore spot you want her to concentrate on. This isn't going to be a professional massage, and English skills might not be good, so communicating where you want a rub might not be easy. Anyway, enjoy whatever rub you are getting. [I](IF you want a professional massage, fork over $100 at Hand & Stone!)[/I]
I often let the arm nearest the girl to become active after a bit. I'll reach what I can on her and SOFTLY and GENTLY stroke her legs. Now if she brushes your hand away, respect that. Don't be grabby, just easy and sensuous. Depending on the girl and the place, you might be able to "roam" a bit. But you are signaling that you are down for extras later. No need to touch her, you can of course just lay there like a corpse!
Anyway, have had good rubs, poor rubs and times when the girl walked on my back. Eventually she will finish rubbing your back and now comes the "flip!" Don't worry if you are tenting the towel with a stiffy! Now here is where the rubber meets the road. Girl might go for it right away and ask what you want or continue with the rub. In the later case she'll rub your chest and legs. Rubs on the legs will get higher and eventually she will accidentally bump into your junk. If you don't give an approving moan, smile or whatever, you are indicating you are not interested in exras! At some point she might even grab yer junk for a few strokes!
Now this is where the 'danger" lies IF there is any. Girl is likely NOT LE, unless LE has taken over the whole business. Do not believe that LE or their reps could touch yer junk legally. Anyway here is where the "negotiation" of extras takes place. [B]DO NOT TALK ABOUT SEX FOR MONEY!!![/B] Point is that IF the place is bugged, yer cooked if there is a recording of you soliciting. Use hand gestures to indicate what you want. I'm sure everyone learned these in middle school! Your fingers can count too! This "fee" or donation is called the "tip!" Note however, if you wanna come back & be remembered, give an actual "tip" of $20+ after the session is over and before you leave!
Now note, IF for some odd reason you do get caught up in an LE sting, remember your 5th Amendment Rights. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! LE is skilled in getting you to "talk" as they know most people caught with their hand in the cookie jar are going to spill their guts and incriminate themself. Don't do it! You are just there for a body rub! Keep your mouth shut! You aren't smarter than LE, [b]You can't talk your way out of a situation[/b] if they are intent on arresting you. But[b] you sure can talk yourself into an arrest.[/b]
Also understand LE is NOT your friend and they certainly are NOT going to "help you out!" or "make it easier for you!" This is a blatant lie and they are allowed to lie to you! Their whole goal is to get you to incriminate yourself so they can arrest you! Don't do it! No high priced lawyer can get you out of a situation where you confessed! Ask Public Defenders and they usually have little wiggle room to negotiate a plea because there is a confession. Keep your mouth shut!
Usually any LE stings are designed at stopping the trafficking of women. They usually aren't interested in the Johns. Trafficking is a felony, solicitation a misdemeanor. That said, you wander into an sting where you have controlled substances or weapons on you and LE will take that for a "win" and you'll get pinched. Of course confess to 'sex acts for money" and LE will take the win for that too.
So generally, AMP visits are low risk situations, IF you know how to behave. The one place where one needs to think is about the LOCATION of the AMP. There was an AMP in Newark that apparently was next to or near a residential area. Residents complaining about the comings and going, usually leads to an investigation. The reason that place was shuttered was LOCATION. So think about that when doing your DD. Oh and a place getting "too" popular on the boards could be a concern too. Just saying.
Oh and someone asked. [b]VA = Visiting Asians.[/b] This is an UTR outfit that travels around and provides the AMP Experience in Hotels. Lots of discussion on these boards about VA (sometimes referred to as TA. Traveling Asians) if one looks. Use to be ThriveToLife was the resident expert on VAs. [i] this is a topic for anther post[/i]
Anyone have an update / recommendation on talent at BW.
[QUOTE=Lgkok;5774880]Anyone have an update / recommendation on talent at BW.[/QUOTE]It looks like it was Saya and another lady here at BW. I met with Saya paid. 6 for the hour and tip 1. 0. I would not repeat with her. We just didn't click as she seems to be in late 30 early 40. I did receive BBBJ. It was one pop in CG and she cut the time short so she refunded me. 1 as she said she was busy.
In addition to the touching, also respond positively when she washes your ass and dick. Also signals you're down for extras.
Just a note. I've been to Blue Wave and some others and I find it more awkward* than the Philly AMPs like 9 VIP or AZN Delight. In those AMPs you just put the full amount down (7 + 1. 0 or 6 + 1. 0, respectively) and the woman, not the MMS, takes the money. I never say anything. Never have had to and never got burned, like put the money down and didn't get BJ and FS. It might be easier for a newbie than one that involves negotiation.
*This may be me not understanding.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5773679]Glad you asked as this is the place to ask "how to" questions! Plenty of experts around here can help "mentor" you.
OK, so it has been a while since anyone has posted a "how to" on AMP visits, so I'll give my version and hopefully others (LuvARub+ others?) will add their spin or refinements.
I guess one CAN be wary of a AMP visit because of [I][u]potential[/u][/I] LE activity, but IF one conducts themself properly they can manage the risk down VERY low. This is a delicate little dance.
First and most important rule is [b]NEVER [u]EVER[/u] talk about sex for money![/b] Never say, "Can you do a blow job for $60"! You are going to an AMP for a body rub. That's it!
So you go to a place, do your homework first. Look for reviews from 3 months ago and get some names of the girls that were around then, but gone now. Point of this is that IF the mamasan asks you the key question, "Have you been here before?" You can say, "Yes, I saw _____". This puts the situation at ease. That use to be the key 'pass phrase" at the old Callowhill Relaxation Station years ago.
So some places you call ahead before showing up, others you just show up. Go to the door, knock or ring the bell and someone lets you in. Now BE COOL! You act all nervous, you'll make them nervous. Might be asked how long you want: rates are generally 40 for 30-minutes and 60 for 60-minutes. This "fee for time" is known as the [b]"House fee" - the fee for the rub.[/b] IF you want extras usually the 60-min rub is what you want to ask for. Usually you pay Mamasan the "house fee" up front. Have had house fee collected in the room by the girl at some places. Some places where things are assumed the house fee and "tip" are collected up front. Then you will be shown to a room or cubical and asked to get comfortable.
Anyway a request to get comfortable means get undressed! Girl usually leaves as you do so. Some places girl might help with your shoes. They might have a robe on a hook in the room, if so, Use it! If no robe, look for a towel and wrap that around you like a skirt. You can sit up or lay on the massage table: face down, towel covering your waist to your thighs.
But note: IF offered a shower or table shower TAKE IT! I don't give a F if you just hopped out of the shower! The girl is going to be more comfortable if she KNOWS you are clean. Some places in Philly will toss yer salad if they cleaned you up down there. That said, it is always a good idea to show up clean & fresh at a AMP. Some places with no washy-washy facilities might turn you down if you show up in work clothes after you got done crawling around in trash to fix some equipment!
But you get naked with a towel around you and eventually the girl returns and starts the "massage". She might ask if oil is OK? For those with an SO, it might make sense to ask for no oil? Rub will be variable. Try saying "yes" or positive moaning when she hits a sore spot you want her to concentrate on. This isn't going to be a professional massage, and English skills might not be good, so communicating where you want a rub might not be easy. Anyway, enjoy whatever rub you are getting. [I](IF you want a professional massage, fork over $100 at Hand & Stone!)[/I]
I often let the arm nearest the girl to become active after a bit. I'll reach what I can on her and SOFTLY and GENTLY stroke her legs. Now if she brushes your hand away, respect that. Don't be grabby, just easy and sensuous. Depending on the girl and the place, you might be able to "roam" a bit. But you are signaling that you are down for extras later. No need to touch her, you can of course just lay there like a corpse!
Anyway, have had good rubs, poor rubs and times when the girl walked on my back. Eventually she will finish rubbing your back and now comes the "flip!" Don't worry if you are tenting the towel with a stiffy! Now here is where the rubber meets the road. Girl might go for it right away and ask what you want or continue with the rub. In the later case she'll rub your chest and legs. Rubs on the legs will get higher and eventually she will accidentally bump into your junk. If you don't give an approving moan, smile or whatever, you are indicating you are not interested in exras! At some point she might even grab yer junk for a few strokes!
Now this is where the 'danger" lies IF there is any. Girl is likely NOT LE, unless LE has taken over the whole business. Do not believe that LE or their reps could touch yer junk legally. Anyway here is where the "negotiation" of extras takes place. [B]DO NOT TALK ABOUT SEX FOR MONEY!!![/B] Point is that IF the place is bugged, yer cooked if there is a recording of you soliciting. Use hand gestures to indicate what you want. I'm sure everyone learned these in middle school! Your fingers can count too! This "fee" or donation is called the "tip!" Note however, if you wanna come back & be remembered, give an actual "tip" of $20+ after the session is over and before you leave!
Now note, IF for some odd reason you do get caught up in an LE sting, remember your 5th Amendment Rights. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! LE is skilled in getting you to "talk" as they know most people caught with their hand in the cookie jar are going to spill their guts and incriminate themself. Don't do it! You are just there for a body rub! Keep your mouth shut! You aren't smarter than LE, [b]You can't talk your way out of a situation[/b] if they are intent on arresting you. But[b] you sure can talk yourself into an arrest.[/b]
Also understand LE is NOT your friend and they certainly are NOT going to "help you out!" or "make it easier for you!" This is a blatant lie and they are allowed to lie to you! Their whole goal is to get you to incriminate yourself so they can arrest you! Don't do it! No high priced lawyer can get you out of a situation where you confessed! Ask Public Defenders and they usually have little wiggle room to negotiate a plea because there is a confession. Keep your mouth shut!
Usually any LE stings are designed at stopping the trafficking of women. They usually aren't interested in the Johns. Trafficking is a felony, solicitation a misdemeanor. That said, you wander into an sting where you have controlled substances or weapons on you and LE will take that for a "win" and you'll get pinched. Of course confess to 'sex acts for money" and LE will take the win for that too.
So generally, AMP visits are low risk situations, IF you know how to behave. The one place where one needs to think is about the LOCATION of the AMP. There was an AMP in Newark that apparently was next to or near a residential area. Residents complaining about the comings and going, usually leads to an investigation. The reason that place was shuttered was LOCATION. So think about that when doing your DD. Oh and a place getting "too" popular on the boards could be a concern too. Just saying.
Oh and someone asked. [b]VA = Visiting Asians.[/b] This is an UTR outfit that travels around and provides the AMP Experience in Hotels. Lots of discussion on these boards about VA (sometimes referred to as TA. Traveling Asians) if one looks. Use to be ThriveToLife was the resident expert on VAs. [i] this is a topic for anther post[/i][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpriteGuy;5775137]It looks like it was Saya and another lady here at BW. I met with Saya paid. 6 for the hour and tip 1. 0. I would not repeat with her. We just didn't click as she seems to be in late 30 early 40. I did receive BBBJ. It was one pop in CG and she cut the time short so she refunded me. 1 as she said she was busy.[/QUOTE]I hate it when they give the bums rush. At least she gave you some back, that normally never happens.
Bluewave is starting to make me nervous. There are suddenly a LOT of reviews on other sites, and last time I went they were visibly busy, with the parking lot full and mama making sure I didn't run into other guys in the hallway. Don't like a place that's attracting traffic like that. Also Casey appears to have gone permanently. Even though she didn't offer FS I loved seeing her. Think I'll be moving on.
[QUOTE=Lgkok;5784636]I hate it when they give the bums rush. At least she gave you some back, that normally never happens.[/QUOTE]I've been refunded at BW a few times before for the same reasons. Mamasan there runs a tight ship. The girls will turn the rooms quickly but if you politely point out that your time was shorted because they're busy, you'll get the additional $20 back ($40 hh, $60 hr) every time.
[QUOTE=CornLord;5786325][b]Bluewave is starting to make me nervous. There are suddenly a LOT of reviews on other sites,[/b] and last time I went they were visibly busy, with the parking lot full and mama making sure I didn't run into other guys in the hallway. Don't like a place that's attracting traffic like that. Also Casey appears to have gone permanently. Even though she didn't offer FS I loved seeing her. Think I'll be moving on.[/QUOTE]IMHO, Risk at this place has gone up!
Remember the last time a place on here was "the talk of the town?"
Then of course the place is VERY EXPOSED, no where to park discreetly, too easily monitored from afar and in the bullseye of the "Anti-Trafficking" Task Force that recently ramped up.
Each dude can manage risks as they choose. just sayin'
Went to Blue Wave thanks to info from this forum two weeks ago. Was a nice, normal AMP visit. Will note that the girl had a nice spot that was reasonably tight. Forgot her name 1. 6 standard though.
Also went to spa L. This was a nicer visit as it was. 6 for the house and 1 for BBFS. I slept well both nights!
I was looking for a 'greek' massage, with bb, but have no clue where to get that and not lookin for trannies.
[QUOTE=Arthasboi;5787544]Went to Blue Wave thanks to info from this forum two weeks ago. Was a nice, normal AMP visit. Will note that the girl had a nice spot that was reasonably tight. Forgot her name 1. 6 standard though.
Also went to spa L. This was a nicer visit as it was. 6 for the house and 1 for BBFS. I slept well both nights!
I was looking for a 'greek' massage, with bb, but have no clue where to get that and not lookin for trannies.[/QUOTE]What / where is spa L.
[QUOTE=Tazdude;5788480]What / where is spa L.[/QUOTE]My question as well. What and where is L spa.
Saw her today, says she's there until Monday.
Tiny, cute and playful, spent an hour with her, very nice table shower allowed roaming but didn't get on (the small) table or anything.
On stomach, the massage was very nice, good skills. Once back and legs were massaged, the teasing really started up.
Did HJ motion and I asked for BJ and if more was available, only had a Benjamin with me so she agreed to the BJ. Left to get supplies (CBJ) came back and took of the flimsy dress she put on before the table shower. Was feeling good and allowing roaming, asked for 69 and gave me the "you can look" line and got up on table. I couldn't help myself and dove in with my tongue and and she didn't stop me. Worked her clit as she finished me off. Seemed like she enjoyed it, said I did a good job (some language difficulties throughout, but didn't effect things). Took cover off, cleaned me off and left with evidence. Came back and did a nice arm / hand massage with my remaining time. After getting dressed, she walked me to door and introduced me to the two other ladies working (maybe told them about me in a good way I hope).
She did have cupping marks on her shoulders and arms, so be aware of that, could be off-putting to some people. Wish she would be around longer, I'd see her again and bring more to sample full menu.
Im not normally that aggressive in doing something like diving in with my tongue but Ive been on such a dry spell and frustrated with the SBs Ive been chatting with, I just took the chance. She couldve jumped off and ended the session there and I wouldve understood her doing that, but she liked what I was doing so I guess I got lucky.
[QUOTE=Arthasboi;5787544]Went to Blue Wave thanks to info from this forum two weeks ago. Was a nice, normal AMP visit. Will note that the girl had a nice spot that was reasonably tight. Forgot her name 1. 6 standard though.
Also went to spa L. This was a nicer visit as it was. 6 for the house and 1 for BBFS. I slept well both nights!
I was looking for a 'greek' massage, with bb, but have no clue where to get that and not lookin for trannies.[/QUOTE]Where is spot L??