The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=SingleMoms;2198629]Man, you cannot miss a day of this rat trap shit or you have no idea what the fuck is going on. Someone let me know if I got this correct, I tried to RTTF but I have a job and only so much time. Here goes as best as I can tell. King Swag is Savannah, King Casanova is Little Meech, Nikki is the one who get the fake bills, Black Prince is Drewbruski, Half the stuff Jag says is true, half is not. Admin is funny as shit. There has been no drama from Jersey Girl, Jenna Devine, Melissa3, Joy, Mystical Ashley, NaNa (she is back), Joan, and (fill in the blank). I think that is most of it, let me know what I missed or got wrong. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It sounds bad the way you say it. LOL.

A2.

A2, your well reasoned post shows wisdom and patience as you let this process unfold. Of course, in hindsight, it all makes sense now. I admire some of the seniors here who had similar insight. I have zero respect for those SMs who chastised others who didn't march in line. I'll admit to being intrigued by Jag's posts, and we have even traded intel via PM, although I'll have to go back and read some with a new perspective.

While I'm disappointed for not figuring this shit out like some SMs did earlier, I'm also very glad I didn't denigrate those who questioned some of Jag's reports. It was frankly shocking to hear certain SMs swoon like little schoolgirls over his reports. One anti-Jag poster implied that the Jag supporters were essentially sucking his cock. In retrospect, that sentiment couldn't be truer. Ironically though, I have a little more respect for Jag than the bitches on here who stroked their cocks for him.

Honestly, I may still read the Sandbox, although it's longevity is probably in doubt. A2, I thought all you did all day was fuck hot Latin girls for cheap and sit around on your smug ass laughing at us pathetic horny fuckers. It's now obvious that you take this forum seriously, and try to do the right thing. You got it right.

Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.

[QUOTE=Jazak;2198628]Any chance we could take a pole to have a few others put in the same cage with jag? I can think of one for sure that would probably win the pole to go in.

It was just a thought!

Jazak.[/QUOTE]Just joking around with this one. A-2, you did a fine job with the way you handled that and Jag even though you have smoke coming out of your ice you do provide good stories & intel at times so hang in there.

Bottoms up! & Having Fun!

Jazak.

[QUOTE=ImpliedFoldeq;2198813]Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.[/QUOTE]

PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.

[QUOTE=ImpliedFoldeq;2198813]Why not let Jag defend himself or apologize in this thread? I'd be interested in knowing his version.[/QUOTE]His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2198988]PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.[/QUOTE]It wouldn't be harmful to give him 1 post here just to allow him to clear the air. You can keep him in the cage after knowing that you allowed him his piece and an opportunity to apologize.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;2198992]His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.[/QUOTE]We don't really know how often he lied or what his version of events is. Your statement that "we can't believe a word he wrote" is probably an unfair exaggeration. There are lots of mongers who would thank him for the info he provided that turned out perfectly fine.

It seems that you personally dislike him, which is fine. You don't have to like him to allow him his piece. If his side of things doesn't make sense and / or he lies more, he'll look even worse than he does now.

[QUOTE=MadisonGuy69;2199101][URL]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/x-toe-curling-sensual-strawberry-blonde-x-july-4-specials-22/10729152[/URL]

Has anyone ever seen her? Any review would help.[/QUOTE]So far you have pretty much put down some of our most well reviewed talents in the area. Maybe you should take this one for the team and provide us feedback.

BG111.

[QUOTE=ImpliedFoldeq;2199035]We don't really know how often he lied or what his version of events is. Your statement that "we can't believe a word he wrote" is probably an unfair exaggeration. There are lots of mongers who would thank him for the info he provided that turned out perfectly fine.

It seems that you personally dislike him, which is fine. You don't have to like him to allow him his piece. If his side of things doesn't make sense and / or he lies more, he'll look even worse than he does now.[/QUOTE]After PMing with Jag, A2, some of his detractors and some of his friends, if I were a juror and with the info presented, I would have to say not guilty from lack of evidence. I am sure there is a lot more info that I don't know, but without an intense investigation, I still don't know enough to say one way or the other. All I can say for sure is that pretty much everyone I chatted with about this was very respectful and we had some healthy discussions. We did not always agree, but it remained cordial.

The two mistakes I think Jag made were to bring up BBFS in a post. No good can come from that. No sane provider wants to be known as the BBFS lady. The other mistake he makes is allowing his detractors to push his buttons. He wants to do verbal battle with everyone that says anything negative about him. He needs to just do his thing and not worry about those that don't care for him. You can't please everyone.

[QUOTE=Otwist;2199364]After PMing with Jag, A2, some of his detractors and some of his friends, if I were a juror and with the info presented, I would have to say not guilty from lack of evidence. I am sure there is a lot more info that I don't know, but without an intense investigation, I still don't know enough to say one way or the other. All I can say for sure is that pretty much everyone I chatted with about this way very respectful and we had some healthy discussions. We did not always agree, but it remained cordial.

The two mistakes I think Jag made were to bring up BBFS in a post. No good can come from that. No sane provider wants to be known as the BBFS lady. The other mistake he makes is allowing his detractors to push his buttons. He wants to do verbal battle with everyone that says anything negative about him. He needs to just do his thing and not worry about those that don't care for him. You can't please everyone.[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that there is "reasonable doubt" enough to not to find Jag guilty? I have found Otwist to be the MOST reliable and honest SM on this board, bar none! I like your assessment of the situation Otwist. Now lets get back to the business of paying chicks to get naked! I will shortly post a review (In Jag's sandbox since it was Jag INTEL) about my lunchtime nut busting visit to a SP. Play Safe. AncientOne.

[QUOTE=DreamForever69;2198992]His version is that he had BBFS with a provider which has been proven false. Which means that we can't believe a word he wrote. Which means every one of his long drawn out posts is pure fiction. Every single post about what he did with a provider was bull shit. His condescending attitude towards any member that questioned his {dreams} was his worst flaw. Wanting everybody to PM him so he could tell them how to have success like he did, thinking he was the ' Golden Monger' but instead he has become the ' Fallen Peasant '.[/QUOTE]I apologize for piling on this dead horse will be buried soon. Goodness knows it has plenty of bruises from the whippings it has taken. I have reached out to Jag a few times in the past. Once about a rub gal over in my neck of the woods with very limited reviews at the time. His replies were very consistent with what I got from 3-4 others. Reviews came out later that without a doubt made me thankful I had not wasted my limited Mario coins. I am sure everyone has members that are trusted more so than the average Joe. My advice if you got to make your bullets count seek advice from more than one source. Safe travels during the holiday weekend. BBFS RIP. J54.

[QUOTE=BuffGuy111;2199278]So far you have pretty much put down some of our most well reviewed talents in the area. Maybe you should take this one for the team and provide us feedback.

BG111.[/QUOTE]It's my opinion you don't have to be a rude jack ass. It speaks highly of why you pay girls, you still aren't over me disliking one. Seriously get over it! Ha ha learn to be the alpha male man. I pay out of addiction, not necessity.

[BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]May this whole matter rest in peace!

Wow this thread is crazy.

Back to porn I go.

Finally.

Thank God. And A2.

[QUOTE=KingSwag69;2199469]How legal is it to disable power and phone in a room at a hotel.

Swag out.[/QUOTE]More info, do you want to do it to your room?

Is mgt doing it to your room?

Or are you pissed at somebody staying at the hotel and you're posting this while standing next to the telephone and power lines holding a running chainsaw wondering how much trouble you will get into if you start cutting?

The details are important.

Just saying,

A2.

[quote=admin2;2199476][blue]jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

a2[/blue][/quote]at least i got to be the one with the last post in the jag sandbox!

Well wise one I commend on the advice. But to each their own. As it is a men's club but when the drama is brought to me why should I take it lying down?

And also I never had to defend anything but my honor. How I live and what is my apt is to my liking. I live comfortably. Also as far back as I can remember, other than by fake accounts or a reincarnated account of a retires / banned member, has been absolutely positive and glowing. Trust me the fluff I post on here is far from my innermost thoughts. This board is not my complete life. Just a portion of it.

I do thank you for clearing that complete nonsense that myself and ginger are one in the same.

Idk you we have never met. I am going to take it as you were trying to be nice offer advice but that could have been politely thru a PM.

Take care and stay safe xoxo.

Paige

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;2190831]Since I'm the longest posting MACK Daddy on this board, here are a few thoughts from the wisdom of the past.

Paige has made a mistake getting involved in posting her innermost thoughts on this board as a wise seductress once said on here "This is a mens club, stay out of the drama".

I realize it's HARD for the ladies (At least I hope it is!) But somehow this always turns on them in the end. Just look at what has been exposed or said about you in the last weeks and you've had to defend your wrestling posters and toys etc. Not good, Not necessary.

I assure all of you Paige is not Ginger, assuming Paige's pics resemble reality and as long as they have been posted on here I'm sure they do. I just posted Gingers picture on here in the last few weeks and they are not even close. I'll do it again, as I said not even close.

Savanna is still preying on Vino as she preyed on Paige. Never has anything been stupider than woofing on Vino, never on this board has there been a stupider act, baseless nonsense.

The counterfeit stuff has been hilarious, F. Why. I. The secret service, never, never comes running for a handful of small bills did I say never. They concentrate on the counterfeiting by foreign Governments, not tens and twenties printed on home computers. When is the last time you heard about a big bust of a local counterfeiting ring? The last one I know of was a print shop in Bunnell, he was wholesaling it for 20 cents on the dollar. This was about 10-12 yrs. Ago, I think he got about 3 yrs. Probation.

The fantasies being posted on here from some of the newer members are great fun, lets all have a fun reading them and holding on to those long held beliefs.

I fell out laughing with the cat piss comments about Jag's sandbox, it took awhile but some are sensing the feet of clay.

Yo, YO A2 did you meet an English Nanny who's making a few bucks in BA, Good day, Good day, somehow that is so out of character for you somehow. But a little edification goes a long way.

Cheers and Tally ho!

VS.

Drew Brewski's BFF.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Pulled off his belt! (was too funny so I stole it from Jesse54).

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]He called it like he saw it.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Damn.

I told him to cool down, ignore it all, take the high road and all this will pass. Everyone here is an adult an we can all look past the issues and move forward. I told him do not be your own worst enemy, lay off A2 or he will unleash the Kracken.

I wish him well as he figures what is next in his mongering career. I assume there will be a lot of pissed followers. I questioned his work and and came forward to address it, but I never wanted to see the guy gone. I didn't dislike the Jag, we were cordial with each other regardless of our issues. He is adamant of his innocence and that all his work can be proven.

The writing was on the wall I guess, you knew this couldn't last forever. What is done is done, maybe the Jag's name will be a part of USASG folklore or will he be reincarnated on this board like King Meech and Swag, you never know!

Good luck to you Jag maybe we will meet again.

[QUOTE=KingSwag69;2199555]It was my room and another woman Karen. It mysteriously came back on after I put my red flashing light in window and started knocking on neighbors doors to plug my phone in. The only sawing going on is in the neighbors on either side of me that seem to be working on remodeling late at night.

Swag out.[/QUOTE]Are you current on rent?

Or, better yet, with all the storms rumbling through, maybe it was a power outage.

Too funny.

" He is adamant of his innocence and that all his work can be proven. " Quote is from From PharmaGuy's post.

The word is "DENIAL" and I also heard he masticates when he eats pizza. {for the intelligenc-ia}.

VS.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2198988]PM him, I'm sure he'll be glad to tell you. I have no intention of ever letting him out of that cage nor will I ease up the restrictions I've put on him.

He can post about the chicks he fucks and anybody who wants to can read it.

A2.[/QUOTE]A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?

I am new to this board, and he was one of the very few who would give me reliable advice. I am sorry to se him go. Farewell my friend!

[QUOTE=Barolo;2199730]A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?[/QUOTE]Jags minions were in a full court press, I assume hounding A2, so A2 was forced to unleash the Kracken.

Seriously, I have never seen so many men worship someone that speaks about about how great he is with a woman, in a long story, when all we want to know is how the woman is. Don't really give a shit how the man performs, only the woman. I don't post on here much but since Jag has PM'd me and gave me some feedback on several providers and every one was a bust and totally different results. I'm sure some of you have ran into a few that he reported on came through because he reported on almost every woman in Orlando. I could do that just reading the board.

Just a word for the upcoming story tellers, keep it to the provider, we really don't care about what a stud you may think you are. Keep to our interests, finding a fine provider.

Sorry but had to vent after reading these.

Jema, don't know you but I lean to believing you.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Good, leave it up so we can take a good look at the posts from all the pussies who carried his jock.

I think you said they are a competitor but it doesn't seem that way. Even if more people knew about that site they wouldn't stop coming to this site.

[blue]Sorry to answer in here but I need the mod console to do it.

First I want to make sure that I'm understanding your question. Are you really asking why we don't allow people to promote a competing web site on ours?

If so, then it's because Jax says you (universal you, not ImpliedFoldeq you, yinz in Pittsburg) can't.

From the desk of the Master Monger, el Jeffe, affectionately known as Jax to those of us who know him;

[quote]============================================

Greetings Gentlemen,

With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).

Thanks,

Jackson[/quote]

His ball, his bat, his rules,

A2[/blue]

It begs:

Sic transit Gloria mundi.

[QUOTE=Barolo;2199730]A2 a curious question for you? You posted this about not letting him out of his cage. I truly understand. You than went to banning him. I am not question you at all just and not saying it is wrong but what throw you over the edge to change your mind?[/QUOTE]If you look around a little you will see that your question was answered a minimum of 919 times.

[QUOTE=ImpliedFoldeq;2199865]I think you said they are a competitor but it doesn't seem that way. Even if more people knew about that site they wouldn't stop coming to this site.

[blue]Sorry to answer in here but I need the mod console to do it.

First I want to make sure that I'm understanding your question. Are you really asking why we don't allow people to promote a competing web site on ours?

If so, then it's because Jax says you (universal you, not ImpliedFoldeq you, yinz in Pittsburg) can't.

From the desk of the Master Monger, el Jeffe, affectionately known as Jax to those of us who know him;



His ball, his bat, his rules,

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I don't think its a competitor. You may be providing the same thing but that doesn't mean you're competitors. I could see the argument if you were both charging for membership but this is free for us (thank you!) so there's no competition for subscriptions. Being able to mention that site would give mongers more information, and isn't information the point of this site and why its successful?

Anyway, you know better than I would and you write the checks. Thanks for the reply.

[QUOTE=ImpliedFoldeq;2199958]I don't think its a competitor. You may be providing the same thing but that doesn't mean you're competitors. I could see the argument if you were both charging for membership but this is free for us (thank you!) so there's no competition for subscriptions. Being able to mention that site would give mongers more information, and isn't information the point of this site and why its successful?

Anyway, you know better than I would and you write the checks. Thanks for the reply.[/QUOTE]I was assuming you were asking about the douchebags that register users on our site then use PM's to send invitations to their new site begging guys not to tell me about the PM's for a couple days so they can get their replies. However you said they aren't competitors.

If you're talking about TER or Backpage, you can mention them, you can link to ads on there. The rule of thumb is no sites that offer reviews because that's what we do.

If the site you're talking about starts with USA like ours then of course they are competitors. You can't talk about them for the same reason Burger King doesn't buy ads for McDonalds.

Hope that helps.

A2.