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[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2715867]It all comes down to the level of control the alleged trafficker has over the alleged victim. Does the accused control where the victim works, lives and sleeps, her transportation? Does the victim have valid identification (meaning, is she in the country legally)? They have a checklist and if they think they can answer yes to enough of the questions there's a trafficking charge. As well, cops are trained to charge an accused with as many crimes as they can find even a little evidence to support. They throw everything and see what sticks. It's a lovely tactic which makes life more difficult for EVERYONE else involved, including the prosecutors, and bogs down the criminal justice system.[/QUOTE]Skatar018 - I have read about tactics like this being used by the authorities. I want to say in Oregon a woman violated a new federal law which makes it illegal to aid in anyway a minor involved in the sex industry. So a stripper was charged under this law for giving a ride to another stripper who was underage. This federal law was designed as a way to go after the customers of underage prostitutes. It was specifically written to appear to target pimps but the ultimate goal was to make the penalties so harsh on the customers that all prostitution would end. The penalty under this was is a $5,000 fine, which is to go into a fund for the victims of human trafficking. So far only petty pimps, some of them women, have been charged. This was passed in the 1st quarter of 2015 and there was a buzz as to why Jarrod of Subway fame was not charged under the new law. Lawrence Taylor could have been charge if this law had been in place when he was arrested.

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218;2716739]This federal law was designed as a way to go after the customers of underage prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Would you have a link to the Federal law by any chance? Thanks.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzuFBQbyqTo&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2717115][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzuFBQbyqTo&feature=youtu.be[/URL][/QUOTE]As a privacy person, I hate this.

As a single person, I LOOOOOOOOOVE this.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;2716839]Would you have a link to the Federal law by any chance? Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.dhs.gov/human-trafficking-laws-regulations[/URL]

Good luck reading this confusing mess. Just like reading tax code. Like A2/ Blue said. BS.

No one saw this one? This is big news! What do you guys think?

[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/01/prostitution-decriminalization-debated-i[/URL]

[URL]http://www.nh1.com/news/state-rep-from-manchester-proposes-bill-to-decriminalize-prostitution-in-nh/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2783528]No one saw this one? This is big news! What do you guys think?

[URL]http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/01/prostitution-decriminalization-debated-i[/URL][/QUOTE]It's good that it's being proposed by the female reps. Who knows, maybe Live Free or Die state will actually end up living by its motto. Maybe we'll see the reason why they actually deserve to have the first primary.

Check the list of organizations that recommend decriminalization. "Global Alliance Against Trafficking in Women" instantly jumped at me. Do you think they know better then our (often false) Women rights zealots-feminazis?

You always bring good, strong reasoning to the board. Do you think it will go through? I mean in the near future? Will it be like pot decriminalization in Washington State and Colorado? It's interesting that the group you referred to is it's main purpose is to fight human trafficking! Many of the trafficking organizations have no clue what the difference is between consensual and coerced. Good news if this goes through and hits states like a domino effect, no one will be concerned with being arrested and if an escort is a rob, violent or tries to blackmail you you can contact the police. If an escort is a victim of crime the same goes for her. Good for the guys, prices will probably drop for escort services, because there will be more saturation of supply over demand. There will be more escorts to choose from. Women will enter escorting more freely knowing they won't be arrested. I don't know if the services will improve though. I know I will be traveling to NH more often!

I'm surprised that nothing was posted in NH about this. Maybe the guys are jaded and skeptical? I'm always hopeful. Anytime I think if any form of consensual sex between adults being illegal seems ludicrous to me. Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state in government?

I'm working with another escort Gabrielle who's in her 30's. We just came back from NY, not too far north of NYC near the CT border. Every time I'm anywhere, especially in a hotel I'm nervous about noisy housekeeping and front desk staff. The hotel we used was a really beautiful resort hotel with two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, golf course, two restaurants, room service, a gym with classes and equipment. Negatives, which is why we won't be going back there, ants in the bathrooms and my friends cell service didn't work in her room, so it was a hassle for scheduling. Thankfully mine worked. I was nervous working with someone new, because I've had so many bad escort experiences off of backpage like you all seem to have. It's been a month, but I think I've hit gold with her! I will keep you all updated on that.

[QUOTE=Deb4512;2784158]You always bring good, strong reasoning to the board. Do you think it will go through? I mean in the near future? Will it be like pot decriminalization in Washington State and Colorado? It's interesting that the group you referred to is it's main purpose is to fight human trafficking! Many of the trafficking organizations have no clue what the difference is between consensual and coerced. Good news if this goes through and hits states like a domino effect, no one will be concerned with being arrested and if an escort is a rob, violent or tries to blackmail you you can contact the police. If an escort is a victim of crime the same goes for her. Good for the guys, prices will probably drop for escort services, because there will be more saturation of supply over demand. There will be more escorts to choose from. Women will enter escorting more freely knowing they won't be arrested. I don't know if the services will improve though. I know I will be traveling to NH more often!

I'm surprised that nothing was posted in NH about this. Maybe the guys are jaded and skeptical? I'm always hopeful. Anytime I think if any form of consensual sex between adults being illegal seems ludicrous to me. Isn't there supposed to be a separation of church and state in government?

I'm working with another escort Gabrielle who's in her 30's. We just came back from NY, not too far north of NYC near the CT border. Every time I'm anywhere, especially in a hotel I'm nervous about noisy housekeeping and front desk staff. The hotel we used was a really beautiful resort hotel with two swimming pools, a jacuzzi, golf course, two restaurants, room service, a gym with classes and equipment. Negatives, which is why we won't be going back there, ants in the bathrooms and my friends cell service didn't work in her room, so it was a hassle for scheduling. Thankfully mine worked. I was nervous working with someone new, because I've had so many bad escort experiences off of backpage like you all seem to have. It's been a month, but I think I've hit gold with her! I will keep you all updated on that.[/QUOTE]1. Why don't you yourself post it on NH board.

2. Keep dreaming on this going through. Children of the 60s and the 70s have grown up, that's why pot is being decriminalized. They don't have as strong feelings about the prostitution as they do about the weed.

3. In Costa Rica or Brazil or I suspect anywhere else in Latin America, if, God forbid, a call girl calls the police on you, chances are the police would automatically take her side over yours. The advise is to quickly pay everybody as much as they're asking no matter how outrageous it may seem at the time and do everything possible to avoid to be taken to the police station. Because if they do take you to the police station and "the matter of principal" and "the national pride" enters into the picture together with significantly widened circle of the desiring recipients of your "foreign aid", you'd end up paying so much more compared to what you would've paid initially, in addition to enjoying involuntary rent-free local hospitality while legal issues are sorting themselves out, that you'd curse yourself continuously on why haven't you paid what they were asking initially right there and then.

I know of a case in Costa Rica when two mongers disagreed with a tica on the expected compensation. The tica called the cops and the mongers allowed themselves to be taken to the station. They hired a local attorney (despite of me telling someone closely involved in the case for them not to do that!), ended up spending over 6 months in local jail while "legal proceedings" were taking place. The legal proceedings involved judges changing (or retiring?), prosecutors vacationing, and (dear God!) motions filed. When I heard about the later I just threw my hands up in dismay.

[URL]https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/02/05/northeastern-professor-arrested-prostitution-sting/cZVjsBHdiRNeXL3GYhyZsJ/story.html[/URL]

I always wonder what the ads look like and what the interactions are. Discussing anything 'important' is a big no-no and has never happened to me. I always wonder if just showing up for a regular BP ad is enough to charge?

There has to be someone on the board who has first-hand experience of one of these. I'm sure it's a little embarrassing to talk about, but it could really help a lot of people. If you're an existing member and you don't want to admit that you screwed up once, just create a new username and unburden yourself. Confession is good for the soul, especially here where it's totally anonymous.

[QUOTE=DaveSheehan;2787106][URL]https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/02/05/northeastern-professor-arrested-prostitution-sting/cZVjsBHdiRNeXL3GYhyZsJ/story.html[/URL]

I always wonder what the ads look like and what the interactions are. Discussing anything 'important' is a big no-no and has never happened to me. I always wonder if just showing up for a regular BP ad is enough to charge?[/QUOTE]

The problem is that it doesn't matter. You might have called the number in the ad and never mentioned sex, fees or any of the stuff that makes a case winnable for LE. Just being at the address, with money in hand and a phone number matching the calls and or texts is enough to get you arrested and arraigned.

You can win the trial but you can't get back the lost reputation of having your name in the newspaper. This is the single biggest weapon the LE have and it is something they count on. News papers are looking to sell copy and salacious sexual content sells. Cops and reporters are a match made in hell.

[QUOTE=NoRush;2788451]There has to be someone on the board who has first-hand experience of one of these. I'm sure it's a little embarrassing to talk about, but it could really help a lot of people. If you're an existing member and you don't want to admit that you screwed up once, just create a new username and unburden yourself. Confession is good for the soul, especially here where it's totally anonymous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpeedingTicke;2788466]The problem is that it doesn't matter. You might have called the number in the ad and never mentioned sex, fees or any of the stuff that makes a case winnable for LE. Just being at the address, with money in hand and a phone number matching the calls and or texts is enough to get you arrested and arraigned.

You can win the trial but you can't get back the lost reputation of having your name in the newspaper. This is the single biggest weapon the LE have and it is something they count on. News papers are looking to sell copy and salacious sexual content sells. Cops and reporters are a match made in hell.[/QUOTE]I think the wild card in all of this is that cops lie. They know why you are there and to make their case more winnable will lie about what you say.

[QUOTE=Katokay;2788663]I think the wild card in all of this is that cops lie. They know why you are there and to make their case more winnable will lie about what you say.[/QUOTE]Ok, you get pulled over the cops are going to arrive 3 to 5 at a time and one will play good cop. He wants to listen and convince you to confess.

If it was a street walker she has a record for something and they have probable cause. If you are alone they count on you being stupid.

If you made a date online and never discussed a donation or act guess what else is in store for you? Bad cop maintains you said something about email. Good cop reminds you they can get your email footprints and find evidence about one time when you asked a question from any person online and gain credibility about this fishy encounter you got yourself into.

Monger phone. Rotate phone and number. No references. Do not take chances.

Too many safe choices.