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Also sounds like a scenario from the HBO documentary Dope Sick Love where a heroin addict would get picked up and then act like a cop - she would do the guys a favor by taking all of their money to let them off, or else she "could just call for backup" and have them arrested. Had a fake badge and everything. They never said if the plan ever backfired on her or not, although she was so deeply addicted that I don't think the possibility of violent reprisals would have deterred her in her search for more money to get drugs.

Not sure what I would have done if actually faced with that situation. From the outside, it is pretty unlikely that a cop would (a) get in the car or (b) screw around that long for a small extortion job. However, a hooker with nothing to lose and no fear of another stint in jail just might be willing to bring both of you to the attention of LE out of spite.

Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Giani]This is nearly a bizzare story except for the part about "the little head was talking..." I don't know a Miranda, but you are SO right that if an (apparent) SW starts giving orders as soon as she is in the car, you need to give HER the exit order...

Her MO sounds like Kelsey who pretended to have a gun on my a while back... (see my post and picture--you might recognize her.)

You have probably seen "Mongering 101" rules, but these unfortunate situations can be minimized by following them. Prime among others, NEVER GIVE THE $ UP FRONT! Here is the link to that post:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=435187#post435187[/url]

Sorry you got taken in Cincy, but... You now have an interesting memory.

And yes, Dollar Store is a very favorite of SWs, fer shur.[/QUOTE]

G-man

Now that I think about it, and now that I have had the chance to roll back the mental pictures, Miranda kinda looks like Kelsey. Is it their MO to change their names frequently? If so, maybe we need to band together and take this chick out.

BLB:
It took me a while searching through the archives, but I found my original post from 6 January 2005 on Kelsey. (It also includes her picture.) I am reposting the picture as "Robbing_SW" with this post. To answer the question, I am SURE that robbing SWs change their names frequently to avoid getting tracked down. The bossiness, anger, threatening manner of your Miranda certainly sounds like it could be my Kelsey. What do you think?

Here is the original post:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2390&page=18&pp=15&highlight=kelsey[/url]
Here is the text of my post on Kelsey:

01-06-05, 11:20
Well... Another error of ignorance...

Melissa stood me up, so since I was in the neighborhood, I picked up a young cute thing who gave me a great smile on Elm just before Liberty. Said her name was Kelsey, about 8 in looks with that fabulous smile... She indicated she would do oral with catch for 0.2 + 0.05 tip. I start to head for my favorite parking garage, she says no, here on this side street. We stopped, I placed the 0.2 in the ash tray.

But it was way too open, people coming and going, I said I'm going to the garage. She said it would cost me more. I am getting a creepy feeling about the situation. She directs me to another very open location. I don't like it, but get ready for action. But then she says no catch for the agreed amount, grabbing the 0.2 from the ash tray.

I am convinced this is going nowhere, AND that I have been ripped off. I said OK, you taught me a lesson, good bye. She indicates she has a gun in her pocket and screams that she will shoot me ("You MFing SOB!") if I don't give her all my money. I sit quietly contemplating what to do (even with a small chance that she IS armed, do I want to place THAT bet???) She is getting wild eyed, freeky and screaming curses at me. I have stashed my wallet elsewhere, but had an additional 0.15 in my pocket for any possible "upgrades." I decide to chalk it up to a serious lesson, and hand her the 0.15 hoping that brings this episode to an end. She says she KNOWS I have more.

I decide to move to a more public place and start the car. She is screaming she is going to shoot me in the head... I begin to drive, and she finally jumps out of the car. I have the presence of mind to pull out my camera, and get some shots off of her. This is a case where I believe it IS appropriate to post a face. Here she is heading across a parking lot, and another of her pulling the hood over her head.

She says her name is KELSEY--she is serious trouble.

[QUOTE=Giani]The bossiness, anger, threatening manner of your Miranda certainly sounds like it could be my Kelsey. What do you think?

[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it is the exact same girl! I should have learned from your galdanged post to be on the lookout for her!

I actually have handcuffs in mine just in case and have thought about mace also, i will handcuff her to the door window (down) and drive and take fast turns, that should shake loose everything, mind you this has to be with precision and quickness. just my .02 cents.

N2

[QUOTE=Giani]BLB:
It took me a while searching through the archives, but I found my original post from 6 January 2005 on Kelsey. (It also includes her picture.) I am reposting the picture as "Robbing_SW" with this post. To answer the question, I am SURE that robbing SWs change their names frequently to avoid getting tracked down. The bossiness, anger, threatening manner of your Miranda certainly sounds like it could be my Kelsey. What do you think?

Here is the original post:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2390&page=18&pp=15&highlight=kelsey[/url]
Here is the text of my post on Kelsey:

01-06-05, 11:20
Well... Another error of ignorance...

Melissa stood me up, so since I was in the neighborhood, I picked up a young cute thing who gave me a great smile on Elm just before Liberty. Said her name was Kelsey, about 8 in looks with that fabulous smile... She indicated she would do oral with catch for 0.2 + 0.05 tip. I start to head for my favorite parking garage, she says no, here on this side street. We stopped, I placed the 0.2 in the ash tray.

But it was way too open, people coming and going, I said I'm going to the garage. She said it would cost me more. I am getting a creepy feeling about the situation. She directs me to another very open location. I don't like it, but get ready for action. But then she says no catch for the agreed amount, grabbing the 0.2 from the ash tray.

I am convinced this is going nowhere, AND that I have been ripped off. I said OK, you taught me a lesson, good bye. She indicates she has a gun in her pocket and screams that she will shoot me ("You MFing SOB!") if I don't give her all my money. I sit quietly contemplating what to do (even with a small chance that she IS armed, do I want to place THAT bet???) She is getting wild eyed, freeky and screaming curses at me. I have stashed my wallet elsewhere, but had an additional 0.15 in my pocket for any possible "upgrades." I decide to chalk it up to a serious lesson, and hand her the 0.15 hoping that brings this episode to an end. She says she KNOWS I have more.

I decide to move to a more public place and start the car. She is screaming she is going to shoot me in the head... I begin to drive, and she finally jumps out of the car. I have the presence of mind to pull out my camera, and get some shots off of her. This is a case where I believe it IS appropriate to post a face. Here she is heading across a parking lot, and another of her pulling the hood over her head.

She says her name is KELSEY--she is serious trouble.[/QUOTE]

It seems like the past couple of weeks most of the sw are accompanied by two or three guys while working. I have seen them hanging with one fairly often in the past but two or three whats up with that. I myself am usually hesitant to stop for anyone with their guy standing right with them, I feel better if they are at least down the street a ways. But having multiple guys right ther makes me stay away. The numbers just aren't good if trouble starts. Anyone else have opinions on this.

I have often seen known SWs with two guys walking down the street. In my opinion, they are not actively working. But that does not mean they wouldn't if you presented the opportunity. Three is a bit beyond the pale.

I agree that SWs with even one guy in close tow makes the situation iffy. Two even more so, and three, forget it. What you CAN do is catch her eye and pull into a side street. If she approaches alone, you can explore further, with with caution. If the whole crowd approaches, no one will fault you for exiting stage right...

Perhaps you stretch the truth when you say "most SWs are accompanied by two or three guys"? On a recent foray into OTR, I saw maybe two or three with their dude, but had no problem finding an SW walking alone.

Caution is by far the best policy--advice I have not always taken myself...

Giani



[QUOTE=Cincy Remark]It seems like the past couple of weeks most of the sw are accompanied by two or three guys while working. I have seen them hanging with one fairly often in the past but two or three whats up with that. I myself am usually hesitant to stop for anyone with their guy standing right with them, I feel better if they are at least down the street a ways. But having multiple guys right ther makes me stay away. The numbers just aren't good if trouble starts. Anyone else have opinions on this.[/QUOTE]

Here is an ad from craigslist today:

******************************************************
We are 3 blocks away Ohio River.
we are making your dreams come true today with special rates and big surprises.
we are 5 girls, willing to play, rub down, oil, lotions, greek, fs, french, we are very talented in those kind of games.

we can come to you or you can come to us the price is the same.
1 girl $175 1.5 hours, 2 girls $175 45minutes, 2girls $300 1.5 hours.
and we are giving away surprises like extra french lessons by another girl.

come over you will love it.

we DO NOT TAKE CASH for 1st clients, we just take PAYPAL
********************************************************

Now I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that this is one of the easiest ways you can get ripped off. Let's see- you send paypal pmt, you email for followup, you never hear from them again, your money is gone.

What does everyone else think?

[QUOTE=Likes to Play]Here is an ad from craigslist today:

******************************************************
We are 3 blocks away Ohio River.

We are making your dreams come true today with special rates and big surprises.

We are 5 girls, willing to play, rub down, oil, lotions, greek, fs, french, we are very talented in those kind of games.

We can come to you or you can come to us the price is the same.

1 girl $175 1.5 hours, 2 girls $175 45minutes, 2girls $300 1.5 hours.

And we are giving away surprises like extra french lessons by another girl.

Come over you will love it.

we DO NOT TAKE CASH for 1st clients, we just take PAYPAL
********************************************************

Now I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that this is one of the easiest ways you can get ripped off. Let's see- you send paypal pmt, you email for followup, you never hear from them again, your money is gone.

What does everyone else think?[/QUOTE]When you see Ads like that, you can be sure you'll never receive the service. When it's too good to be true, IT'S A RIP OFF.

You can find some good deals with escorts and girls who are straight and not out to rip you off. But in this town, I'm not seen to many good deals unless you pay $$ and up and you must check out the service provider at The Erotic Review and see if she has good reviews or not worth the $ and time.

Personally the best city I've had good service was in Columbus, Ohio. There were lots of OSU girls working as escorts and going to school. I had girls that were in Law School and in the Medical program at OSU. At the time their rates were anywhere from 1.25 up to 1.75 and hour.

Also while I'm thinking of it, If an escort comes to you're place with a driver who ask for the money up front before the girl comes into your place SHUT THE DOOR. Tell them no deal.

My advice is to really research these escorts out at any review site and know before you pay. It's like when you buy a car at any dealership if you don't research the car and know all about it and what's a fair deal the auto saleman will rip you off.

Remember, you want to be in control at all times. Either with a SW, Escort, or even at an AMP.

Hope this helps,

HARPO2U

Alert there is a killer amongst us and its close to home. Suana is dead. No bullshit she was killed last week when she was beat to death by a lick that she went own. He beat her severly and left her for dead near Martins bar on walnut. She was bleeding badly when she was taken to the hospital by ambulance and later that day she died from all the trauma.

This is real fellas.

[QUOTE=smallfry]Alert there is a killer amongst us and its close to home. Suana is dead. No bullshit she was killed last week when she was beat to death by a lick that she went own. He beat her severly and left her for dead near Martins bar on walnut. She was bleeding badly when she was taken to the hospital by ambulance and later that day she died from all the trauma.

This is real fellas.[/QUOTE]I heard the same thing but I didn't know she died . I just heard she got beat up really bad and was in the hospital and might not make it.

I heard that it was Sonya, blonde hair, fake boobs, petite really cute. Although, many have thought i was talking about Sauna not Sonya. The person who told me did specify she had implants. I don't think Sauna ever got any. I don't know. They did say it was a dude that goes by the name Santa Claus, which sounds like it could be a dope boy, not a lick. I could be wrong though, you probably have more info. Sad to hear anyway.

[QUOTE=smallfry]Alert there is a killer amongst us and its close to home. Suana is dead. No bullshit she was killed last week when she was beat to death by a lick that she went own. He beat her severly and left her for dead near Martins bar on walnut. She was bleeding badly when she was taken to the hospital by ambulance and later that day she died from all the trauma.

This is real fellas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Likes to Play]Here is an ad from craigslist today:

******************************************************
We are 3 blocks away Ohio River.
we are making your dreams come true today with special rates and big surprises.
we are 5 girls, willing to play, rub down, oil, lotions, greek, fs, french, we are very talented in those kind of games.

we can come to you or you can come to us the price is the same.
1 girl $175 1.5 hours, 2 girls $175 45minutes, 2girls $300 1.5 hours.
and we are giving away surprises like extra french lessons by another girl.

come over you will love it.

we DO NOT TAKE CASH for 1st clients, we just take PAYPAL
********************************************************

Now I can't say for sure, but I'm betting that this is one of the easiest ways you can get ripped off. Let's see- you send paypal pmt, you email for followup, you never hear from them again, your money is gone.

What does everyone else think?[/QUOTE]

Who in the world wouldn't take cash? That's the supidest thing I've ever heard of (although I'm sure they'll make good money anyway).

[QUOTE=Gunter62]Who in the world wouldn't take cash? That's the supidest thing I've ever heard of (although I'm sure they'll make good money anyway).[/QUOTE]

Obviously they have must have acess to a computer? I'd suggest that you make the paypal entry once the job is done at their location? That is of course ................ if there is a location? My guess is that they want to collect before they offer up any details?

Won't take cash????? Sounds pretty shaky to me too, but two thumbs up for the idea!! However, I do love the thought about surprise extra french. Could that be 2 girls plus for 45 minutes with a surprise visit from a third for less than $$ ?.......... hell, If they're height/weight proportional that sounds like an event! Could possibly be some sort of sting with a paper trail too??

I stay down the way and I know her and all her friends. It was Suana Good thing though because ever since Lero got locked up she has been going down hill extremely fast. THere are no dealers downtown by the name Santa Claus. People are changing the story every day and not sticking to the basic. Black guy with a green older model car that is a regular lick downtown.