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Thanks Third Eye.
Perhaps we can save each other some money, or at least hone our negotiation skills.
When a girl who catches your eye shoots you the infamous, “Wanna dance?” What do you say?
Personally, I often respond with, “How much are your dances?” Then I negotiate from there, or at least try to.
Over the years, I have developed pretty good negotiation skills. I am normally all over the, “Twenty a dance, thirty for a good dance” girl. What do you say to the girl who says, “My dances start at $20 and go up from there.” Seldom do I get them to explain the difference between a $30, $40, $50 or more dance, but it does occasionally happen.
Sad to admit, but sometimes I have a nasty up-sell surprise. “That was a GOOD dance, but a GREAT dance can be had for …” That’s when I pull the plug. I’m often more pissed at myself for taking the bait than the girl.
So, partners in crime, how do you determine the price of a dance beforehand or further dances after a successful, initial try-out dance?
Teach me, masters.
I normally pass on the first round of girls, Unless one really strokes my wood.
I tell them I want to see all the girls on stage first.
See how the y move and I check out the girls giving dances near me
I tell them up front $20 + $5 tip don't expect more.
I have given up more. Just not that often.
The second dance I will ask them in there ear if they ever "hook.up" outside the club.
YMMV of course.
I really don't think the women respect anyone who throws wads of cash at them. Unless you are getting what you are paying for.
And in Tacoma, good luck.
[QUOTE=Tassman62]I normally pass on the first round of girls, Unless one really strokes my wood.
I tell them I want to see all the girls on stage first.…
And in Tacoma, good luck.[/QUOTE]
I like what you say about seeing them on stage. I always like to see that rotation. Another benefit of this is that you get a feeling of when a girl you might have a dance with is due to go up. I hate it when I get one dance finished and the girl I am with is due up on the stage. "Danceus interruptus."
And what you say about Tacoma is true!
In Seattle for work tomorrow. I haven't been to Rick's in 4+ years? Is it still the best strip club in town? If not, where do you guys recommend I go tomorrow?
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I was in Rick's perhaps a month ago in the late afternoon/early evening. It was kind of like the old spaghetti western, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
Good times can be found, but negotiate price first. You should find what you're looking for. That wasn't true, at least for me, a year ago.
Hit the Sands 2x in last month. I finally thawed out Jamie. Very nice day shift girls. I can recommend VIP dance action with Jamie, Blair, or Luna.
Also, around 1AM at a gas station near my place in West Seattle, I met a hot young brunette dancer named Ashley. She is totally hot spinner, piercings, tats, tits, the works. She comped a free pass to the D'town Deja Vu.
I told Ashley I was spoiled by the hot dances at the Sands and she intimated that I could get high mileage with her.
I'll let you know how that shakes out.
[QUOTE=Dboy452003]Hit the Sands 2x in last month. I finally thawed out Jamie. Very nice day shift girls. I can recommend VIP dance action with Jamie, Blair, or Luna.
Also, around 1AM at a gas station near my place in West Seattle, I met a hot young brunette dancer named Ashley. She is totally hot spinner, piercings, tats, tits, the works. She comped a free pass to the D'town Deja Vu.
I told Ashley I was spoiled by the hot dances at the Sands and she intimated that I could get high mileage with her.
I'll let you know how that shakes out.[/QUOTE]
Good info indeed! Be careful about $$ at the Downtown VU. I've a buddy who spends too much for dances and even he turned down the dancers downtown as he thought they were took costly.
BTW, I used to live in your old stomping grounds. Party on! Dbldown
Went to Rick's last Saturday. Not too bad!!! I'm bad with names but a basic rule of thumb is that if they're super HOT ya can't touch. If they're not so much then hold out till after midnight. They'll get a little desparate and allow some fondling. Wait till one to have some real fun!!!
Heard Rick's got busted again. Any of you guys been in a club when LE showed up and arrested the girls? Do they ask for the guy's id or hassle them at all?
Inquiring minds want to know.
From what I'm reading here, a lot of guys are paying WAY TOO MUCH for dances, letting the girls take them for a ride by going in the VIP room but not allowing touching, etc. Guys, this is bullshite!
Understand something: the rules at the clubs are set up not for your enjoyment, but to make money for the owners. Bottom line, if you don't go in with a focus on getting what you want, you'll come out frustrated. I don't mean go in and be an @ssh0le to the girls. Treat them with kindness and respect--BUT--if they don't deliver, move on to the next one. Find out what their dances cost before you go in the VIP room--this sounds so basic, but yes even I have fallen into this trap. Go in with a good amount of cash but let that be your limit. Curse the day they put ATMs in the clubs! Decide beforehand how much you're willing to pay for the good dances, and know how many dances you can afford. See if the dancer offers any package deals (like 3 for $ or whatever).
By moving on or passing, you do yourself and the girl a favor. You move on to another girl who might go the extra mile for you. If the girl is smart, she'll learn from it. Most of them are in fact quite smart; from the pitches I've endured, I believe they could be marketing managers at any Fortune 100 company. :)
3rdI
Just got back from my old home of 4 years and it is still the best city on earth. For "great" dances. Houston, TX. They have Clubs every other block, MUCH nicer than Ricks, Deja Vu, etc. And was offerred extras in all four clubs I visited. And Texas girls are not too shabby looking too. 1. 5 will gtd the works. Many rumors going around about LE cracking down but its an election year and they ease up after everything is over. They even sell booze. I LOVE TX. Sorry guys, just had to share.
[QUOTE=Third Eye]See if the dancer offers any package deals (like 3 for $ or whatever).
... If the girl is smart, she'll learn from it. Most of them are in fact quite smart; from the pitches I've endured, I believe they could be marketing managers at any Fortune 100 company. :)
3rdI[/QUOTE]
Good points, Third Eye. ALWAYS know the price before venturing into the VIP!
[QUOTE=Dbldowndon]Good points, Third Eye. ALWAYS know the price before venturing into the VIP![/QUOTE]
Thx Dbldown. We gotta teach these young dudes about "street!"
Reading all these reports of us guys not getting our money's worth in the clubs or in the spas is starting to get me down. I just don't understand the ripoff mentality and wonder where all the quality has gone. The recent surge in raids sure hasn't helped either.
Having said that I need to make a trip north to Honey's and hone my skills one of these days. Money has been tight though...
[QUOTE=Third Eye]...Reading all these reports of us guys not getting our money's worth in the clubs or in the spas is starting to get me down. I just don't understand the ripoff mentality and wonder where all the quality has gone...[/QUOTE]Brother Third Eye, I fear we hobbyists have done this to ourselves...
Even during "economic contraction" an occasional casino trip can still be good to ol' Jimi. What to do with a sensible portion of the winnings?
Despite at least one recent raid by Uncle Leo, between Honey's, Sugar's, and the Sands, in the last two weeks I have scored HJs, Russian, CBJs to completion, BBBJs with a HJ or Russian finish, and two mind-blowing full service experiences -- all VERY reasonably.
Exact services, rates, names and locations have to be witheld this time, even with my Senior brothers, to protect the ladies in question, but I will say this:
1) Brunettes will give you good mileage
2) There is a new big titty 19 yr old out there who has the soul of an old pro -- very eager to please(!)
3) Stary away from all Russian dancers under 30 at these clubs and anyone from Brazil -- trust me on this...
Rapport is everything, gentlemen. Take the time to establish it, and you'll get the goods.
Beyond that, be respectful but very clear, and at all costs HOLD THE LINE. If a girl new to you talks you up to a special dance and then doesn't deliver as agreed upon, DO NOT BE A SUCKER. Thank her politely and cut her loose -- NO MATTER HOW HOT she is. She gets exactly *ONE* chance to prove herself. Do not let your little head convince you that "the next dance" will get you what you asked for on the last dance. Keeping to this rigid standard helps girls new and old to remember not to be stringers. The girls still get paid, but the hobbyists don't get played.
Some ladies -- generally the ones who are either inexperienced of stuck up (or both) -- don't like this, but as long as you mind your manners and stay clear and firm when you negotiate, they will either come around or go home struggling to pay house at the end of their shift. If you're uneasy about playing hardball, you just need to ask yourself one simple question the next time a dancer alters the deal on you: "Am I her [common term for female dog]?"
'Scuse me while I kiss the sky... -- Jimi Hendrix
PS: Hooray for the day shift. :)